Playing back old DOOM 2 v1.9 mod demos?

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Ant

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Sep 8, 2012, 2:22:04 PM9/8/12
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Hello.

Many years ago, I used DOSbox and the old DOOM DOS files to play back
and record demos in my old DOOM 2 mods with their own custom pwads,
DeHackEd (deh), etc.:
http://zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/file...oom/j2doom.html ... They were only
320x240 and blurry. I'd like to do higher resolutions, better graphics
(Doomsday?), etc. Can any of the newer DOOM programs do this?

Thank you in advance. :)
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Sep 9, 2012, 2:26:14 PM9/9/12
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Quoting Ant <a...@zimage.comANT>:
>Many years ago, I used DOSbox and the old DOOM DOS files to play back
>and record demos in my old DOOM 2 mods with their own custom pwads,
>DeHackEd (deh), etc.:
>http://zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/file...oom/j2doom.html ... They were only
>320x240 and blurry. I'd like to do higher resolutions, better graphics
>(Doomsday?), etc. Can any of the newer DOOM programs do this?

prboom will do it, and has very extensive bug-for-bug compatibility modes
to try and ensure demos recorded in DOOM.EXE actually work. It's worth a
look, along with the daughter project prboomplus.
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Sep 9, 2012, 2:32:04 PM9/9/12
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Quoting Ant <a...@zimage.comANT>:
>http://zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/file...oom/j2doom.html ... They were only

PS: mangled URL.

Ant

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Sep 9, 2012, 6:16:47 PM9/9/12
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On 9/9/2012 11:26 AM PT, David Damerell typed:

>> Many years ago, I used DOSbox and the old DOOM DOS files to play back
>> and record demos in my old DOOM 2 mods with their own custom pwads,
>> DeHackEd (deh), etc.:
>> http://zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/file...oom/j2doom.html ... They were only
>> 320x240 and blurry. I'd like to do higher resolutions, better graphics
>> (Doomsday?), etc. Can any of the newer DOOM programs do this?
>
> prboom will do it, and has very extensive bug-for-bug compatibility modes
> to try and ensure demos recorded in DOOM.EXE actually work. It's worth a
> look, along with the daughter project prboomplus.

Thanks, but I am having two issues:

1. How do I select a specific ingame demo in my WAD? I have three of
them. I don't want to record all three at once. One of them is about 30
minutes long!

2. After doing two quick test records, my video demo playbacks are
showing gameplays too fast (audio was fine) in both Media Player
Classic-Home Cinema and VideoLAN Client players. How do I fix this? :(

Thank you in advance. :)
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Ant

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Sep 9, 2012, 6:17:48 PM9/9/12
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On 9/9/2012 11:32 AM PT, David Damerell typed:

> PS: mangled URL.

DOH! http://zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/files/doom2/j2doom/j2doom.html ...
Thanks. :)
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David Damerell

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Sep 9, 2012, 7:40:43 PM9/9/12
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Quoting Ant <a...@zimage.comANT>:
>1. How do I select a specific ingame demo in my WAD? I have three of
>them. I don't want to record all three at once. One of them is about 30
>minutes long!

It might be easier to use deutex or similar to extract that demo LMP, then
explicitly run prboom -playdemo.

>2. After doing two quick test records, my video demo playbacks are
>showing gameplays too fast (audio was fine) in both Media Player
>Classic-Home Cinema and VideoLAN Client players. How do I fix this? :(

I'm afraid I don't know. What tool are you using to go between "doom
playing back a demo" and "a file to load in VLC"?
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Ant

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Sep 9, 2012, 9:26:56 PM9/9/12
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On 9/9/2012 4:40 PM PT, David Damerell typed:

> Quoting Ant <a...@zimage.comANT>:
>> 1. How do I select a specific ingame demo in my WAD? I have three of
>> them. I don't want to record all three at once. One of them is about 30
>> minutes long!
>
> It might be easier to use deutex or similar to extract that demo LMP, then
> explicitly run prboom -playdemo.

Ugh, pain in the butt. So after the demo ends, then the recording stop
or do I have to be there to stop recording?


>> 2. After doing two quick test records, my video demo playbacks are
>> showing gameplays too fast (audio was fine) in both Media Player
>> Classic-Home Cinema and VideoLAN Client players. How do I fix this? :(
>
> I'm afraid I don't know. What tool are you using to go between "doom
> playing back a demo" and "a file to load in VLC"?

I am using whatever the latest 32-bit Windows XP Pro. SP3 compatible
tools that its documents (prboom-plus-2.5.1.3-win32's
prboom-plus-2.5.1.3\usage.txt) mentions:

"VIDEO CAPTURE

This feature allows you to record movie files, suitable for viewing or
upload to websites.
Prboom-plus uses external command line encoding tools to accomplish
this. You will need the following:
oggenc2 ;ogg vorbis audio encoder
http://www.rarewares.org/ogg-oggenc.php
x264 ;h264 video encoder http://x264.nl/
mkvmerge ;mkv muxer
http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/

These applications can be placed in the same folder as Prboom-plus..."

:)
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David Damerell

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Sep 10, 2012, 7:35:35 AM9/10/12
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Quoting Ant <a...@zimage.comANT>:
>On 9/9/2012 4:40 PM PT, David Damerell typed:
>>It might be easier to use deutex or similar to extract that demo LMP, then
>>explicitly run prboom -playdemo.
>Ugh, pain in the butt. So after the demo ends, then the recording stop
>or do I have to be there to stop recording?

Surely you have to be there to stop recording with what you're doing at
the moment? But it seems to me like the tools you mention below should
surely stop automatically after -playdemo ends.

>>I'm afraid I don't know. What tool are you using to go between "doom
>>playing back a demo" and "a file to load in VLC"?
>I am using whatever the latest 32-bit Windows XP Pro. SP3 compatible
>tools that its documents (prboom-plus-2.5.1.3-win32's
>prboom-plus-2.5.1.3\usage.txt) mentions:
>"VIDEO CAPTURE

I'm sorry to say I have never used this feature, so I cannot help you with
it.

Ant

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Sep 11, 2012, 2:25:37 AM9/11/12
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On 9/10/2012 4:35 AM PT, David Damerell typed:

> Quoting Ant <a...@zimage.comANT>:
>> On 9/9/2012 4:40 PM PT, David Damerell typed:
>>> It might be easier to use deutex or similar to extract that demo LMP, then
>>> explicitly run prboom -playdemo.
>> Ugh, pain in the butt. So after the demo ends, then the recording stop
>> or do I have to be there to stop recording?
>
> Surely you have to be there to stop recording with what you're doing at
> the moment? But it seems to me like the tools you mention below should
> surely stop automatically after -playdemo ends.

Yeah, I was hoping there was a way to play only specific demos directly
from my old WAD files from the 1990s/90s. :)


>>> I'm afraid I don't know. What tool are you using to go between "doom
>>> playing back a demo" and "a file to load in VLC"?
>> I am using whatever the latest 32-bit Windows XP Pro. SP3 compatible
>> tools that its documents (prboom-plus-2.5.1.3-win32's
>> prboom-plus-2.5.1.3\usage.txt) mentions:
>> "VIDEO CAPTURE
>
> I'm sorry to say I have never used this feature, so I cannot help you with
> it.

Thanks. :(
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David Damerell

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Sep 13, 2012, 1:38:25 AM9/13/12
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Quoting Ant <a...@zimage.comANT>:
>On 9/10/2012 4:35 AM PT, David Damerell typed:
>>Surely you have to be there to stop recording with what you're doing at
>>the moment? But it seems to me like the tools you mention below should
>>surely stop automatically after -playdemo ends.
>Yeah, I was hoping there was a way to play only specific demos directly
>from my old WAD files from the 1990s/90s. :)

I don't see what's wrong with the idea of deutexing them out from the WADs
and then -playdemoing them.
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Ant

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Sep 13, 2012, 2:35:12 AM9/13/12
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On 9/12/2012 10:38 PM PT, David Damerell typed:

> I don't see what's wrong with the idea of deutexing them out from the WADs
> and then -playdemoing them.

Refresh my memory, how do I extract the demos out?
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RjY

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Sep 13, 2012, 3:02:43 AM9/13/12
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David Damerell posted:
>Quoting Ant <a...@zimage.comANT>:
>>On 9/10/2012 4:35 AM PT, David Damerell typed:
>>>Surely you have to be there to stop recording with what you're doing at
>>>the moment? But it seems to me like the tools you mention below should
>>>surely stop automatically after -playdemo ends.
>>Yeah, I was hoping there was a way to play only specific demos directly
>>from my old WAD files from the 1990s/90s. :)
>I don't see what's wrong with the idea of deutexing them out from the WADs
>and then -playdemoing them.

It's actually not needed. -playdemo works on names of demo lumps in wads.
Title screen demos are called demo1, demo2, etc. So for example

prboom blahblah.wad -playdemo demo1

will load blahblah.wad, play demo1, and exit. So he just has to figure
out how to run that inside of a video capture (sorry, can't help there)

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Ant

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Sep 13, 2012, 9:55:51 AM9/13/12
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On 9/13/2012 12:02 AM PT, RjY typed:

>>>> Surely you have to be there to stop recording with what you're
doing at
>>>> the moment? But it seems to me like the tools you mention below should
>>>> surely stop automatically after -playdemo ends.
>>> Yeah, I was hoping there was a way to play only specific demos directly
>> >from my old WAD files from the 1990s/90s. :)
>> I don't see what's wrong with the idea of deutexing them out from the WADs
>> and then -playdemoing them.
>
> It's actually not needed. -playdemo works on names of demo lumps in wads.
> Title screen demos are called demo1, demo2, etc. So for example
>
> prboom blahblah.wad -playdemo demo1
>
> will load blahblah.wad, play demo1, and exit. So he just has to figure
> out how to run that inside of a video capture (sorry, can't help there)

Sweet that will work. Now, how to fix my video playback capture issue...

Is it me or is prboom...@lists.sourceforge.net mailing list dead? I
subscribed and posted on Saturday, the 8th, and still nothing. :(
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David Damerell

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Sep 14, 2012, 11:46:35 AM9/14/12
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Quoting Ant <a...@zimage.comANT>:
>On 9/12/2012 10:38 PM PT, David Damerell typed:
>>I don't see what's wrong with the idea of deutexing them out from the WADs
>>and then -playdemoing them.
>Refresh my memory, how do I extract the demos out?

Although as mentioned elsewhere, it's not necessary, use deutex.
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