Game mode indeterminate
Steven Latus
when attempting to run Doom2 under Windows 95 on a Pentium 90 with 48MB
RAM.
It worked OK yesterday according to my son.
Any ideas what could be causing this?
Gaston Lahaut
>
> I get the message "Game mode indeterminate" and the game fails to start
> when attempting to run Doom2 under Windows 95 on a Pentium 90 with 48MB
> RAM.
Select the appropriate IWAD from the scroll-down menu in Doom95, which
is either (Ultimate) Doom (DOOM.WAD), Doom2 (DOOM2.WAD) or Final Doom
(TNT.WAD or PLUTONIA.WAD). At least, I think that is what is wrong now
;)
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Rob Ellwood
> I get the message "Game mode indeterminate" and the game fails to start
> when attempting to run Doom2 under Windows 95 on a Pentium 90 with 48MB
> RAM.
I get this when I start Doom running, and the working directory
is wrong. Example: instead of being C:\Doom2\, it's D:\Games\.
As far as I can tell, this is the error message when Doom.Exe looks
for the main Doom.Wad or Doom2.Wad file. If that isn't in the
working directory, the program gives up with that error message.
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Steven Latus
I also have a "nonstandard" directory containing all program, support and WAD
files, but I tried to run it directly from that directory and had no success.
I also have DOOMIT version 5.9c that has the correct path in its config
section. No dice running a WAD from there as well. I can bring up the DOOMIT
screen, but get the error message after selecting and trying to run a WAD.
Steven Latus
> Steven Latus wrote:
> >
> > I get the message "Game mode indeterminate" and the game fails to start
> > when attempting to run Doom2 under Windows 95 on a Pentium 90 with 48MB
> > RAM.
>
> Select the appropriate IWAD from the scroll-down menu in Doom95, which
> is either (Ultimate) Doom (DOOM.WAD), Doom2 (DOOM2.WAD) or Final Doom
> (TNT.WAD or PLUTONIA.WAD). At least, I think that is what is wrong now
> ;)
> --
> Gaston Lahaut
> Author of Mordeth, Home Page at
> http://www.warande.uu.nl/~glahaut/mordeth.htm
> A Maintainer of Doomworld at
> http://www.doomworld.com
> --
> NOTE: Replace 'NOSPAM' with 'STUD' in reply-to address when mailing me
I don't have Doom95, but I will download it later to check it out.
I currently have version 1.9 of DOOM II for DOS.
Gaston Lahaut
> I don't have Doom95, but I will download it later to check it out.
Er don't :) Stick with normal DOS Doom, since it's way better anyway.
Your error message "game mode indeterminate" means that it cannot find
the appropriate IWAD, and I assumed the engine couldn't find it because
you were running Doom95 with the wrong option selected. In DOS, just
make sure the exe and wad are in the same directory.
Rich B.
>
> Er don't :) Stick with normal DOS Doom, since it's way better anyway.
> Your error message "game mode indeterminate" means that it cannot find
> the appropriate IWAD, and I assumed the engine couldn't find it because
> you were running Doom95 with the wrong option selected. In DOS, just
> make sure the exe and wad are in the same directory.
...I get this error when I accidentally put both Doom.wad and Doom2.wad
(or Doom1.wad and Doom.wad) in the same directory without re-naming one
of them to some other name...since Doom.exe v1.9 will run either one, it
gets hysterical and refuses to launch if it encounters *both*...
--
Rich B.
..."Borland C++???"...
...(Hell, I can't get *Notepad* to work)...
Steven Latus
Gaston Lahaut wrote:
> Steven Latus wrote:
>
> > I don't have Doom95, but I will download it later to check it out.
>
> Er don't :) Stick with normal DOS Doom, since it's way better anyway.
> Your error message "game mode indeterminate" means that it cannot find
> the appropriate IWAD, and I assumed the engine couldn't find it because
> you were running Doom95 with the wrong option selected. In DOS, just
> make sure the exe and wad are in the same directory.
> --
> Gaston Lahaut
> Author of Mordeth, Home Page at
> http://www.warande.uu.nl/~glahaut/mordeth.htm
> A Maintainer of Doomworld at
> http://www.doomworld.com
> --
> NOTE: Replace 'NOSPAM' with 'STUD' in reply-to address when mailing me
Both the EXE and the WAD files are in the same directory.
Strange, eh?
Len Pitre
>I get the message "Game mode indeterminate" and the game fails to start
>when attempting to run Doom2 under Windows 95 on a Pentium 90 with 48MB
>RAM.
>
>
>Any ideas what could be causing this?
>
Well, precisely how are you starting Doom2? From a DOS prompt, a shortcut, or
a "Run" dialog box? You'd never believe how much difference that makes.
Len.
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opulent
Perhaps your doom2.exe is corrupted... try re-installing it.(uninstall
first)
Opulent
Gaston Lahaut
> Both the EXE and the WAD files are in the same directory.
> Strange, eh?
Yup :) Perhaps you have more then one IWAD in the same directory like
Rich suggested..?
Steven Latus
opulent wrote:
> Steven Latus wrote:
> >
> > Gaston Lahaut wrote:
> >
> > > Steven Latus wrote:
> > >
> > > > I don't have Doom95, but I will download it later to check it out.
> > >
> > > Er don't :) Stick with normal DOS Doom, since it's way better anyway.
> > > Your error message "game mode indeterminate" means that it cannot find
> > > the appropriate IWAD, and I assumed the engine couldn't find it because
> > > you were running Doom95 with the wrong option selected. In DOS, just
> > > make sure the exe and wad are in the same directory.
> > > --
> > > Gaston Lahaut
> > > Author of Mordeth, Home Page at
> > > http://www.warande.uu.nl/~glahaut/mordeth.htm
> > > A Maintainer of Doomworld at
> > > http://www.doomworld.com
> > > --
> > > NOTE: Replace 'NOSPAM' with 'STUD' in reply-to address when mailing me
> >
> > Both the EXE and the WAD files are in the same directory.
> >
> > Strange, eh?
>
> Perhaps your doom2.exe is corrupted... try re-installing it.(uninstall
> first)
>
> Opulent
Not a bad suggestion, but my son months ago managed to lose/lend/misplace the
CD so I don't have that option at the moment. :(
Steven Latus
Rich B. wrote:
> Gaston Lahaut wrote:
> >
> > Er don't :) Stick with normal DOS Doom, since it's way better anyway.
> > Your error message "game mode indeterminate" means that it cannot find
> > the appropriate IWAD, and I assumed the engine couldn't find it because
> > you were running Doom95 with the wrong option selected. In DOS, just
> > make sure the exe and wad are in the same directory.
>
> ...I get this error when I accidentally put both Doom.wad and Doom2.wad
> (or Doom1.wad and Doom.wad) in the same directory without re-naming one
> of them to some other name...since Doom.exe v1.9 will run either one, it
> gets hysterical and refuses to launch if it encounters *both*...
>
> --
> Rich B.
> ..."Borland C++???"...
> ...(Hell, I can't get *Notepad* to work)...
I have about 8 million or so WAD files, but none named DOOM(anything).WAD.
Steven Latus
Gaston Lahaut wrote:
> Steven Latus wrote:
>
> > Both the EXE and the WAD files are in the same directory.
> > Strange, eh?
>
> Yup :) Perhaps you have more then one IWAD in the same directory like
> Rich suggested..?
>
> --
> Gaston Lahaut
> Author of Mordeth, Home Page at
> http://www.warande.uu.nl/~glahaut/mordeth.htm
> A Maintainer of Doomworld at
> http://www.doomworld.com
> --
> NOTE: Replace 'NOSPAM' with 'STUD' in reply-to address when mailing me
I have about 8 million or so WAD files, but none named DOOM(anything).WAD.
Rich B.
>
> I have about 8 million or so WAD files, but none named DOOM(anything).WAD.
Is one named TNT.WAD or PLUTONIA.WAD? If so, you have too many IWADS...
opulent
>
> Gaston Lahaut wrote:
>
> > Steven Latus wrote:
> >
> > > Both the EXE and the WAD files are in the same directory.
> > > Strange, eh?
> >
> > Yup :) Perhaps you have more then one IWAD in the same directory like
> > Rich suggested..?
> >
> > --
> > Gaston Lahaut
> > Author of Mordeth, Home Page at
> > http://www.warande.uu.nl/~glahaut/mordeth.htm
> > A Maintainer of Doomworld at
> > http://www.doomworld.com
> > --
> > NOTE: Replace 'NOSPAM' with 'STUD' in reply-to address when mailing me
>
THAT is your problem. :.(
You don't _have_ an Iwad that your executable can use! You must
re-install.(you need an Iwad -- Doom.wad Doom1.wad Doom2.wad Tnt.wad or
plutonia.wad)
good luck, another new game is only 15 bucks....
Opulent
Steven Latus
Len Pitre wrote:
Actually, I've tried all 3 methods. =80
None work.
Steven Latus
opulent wrote:
Aha, a clue!
I'll try to retrieve a DOOM2.WAD off of a backup tape.
Thanks!
P.S. What is an IWAD as opposed to a plain WAD file?
Gaston Lahaut
> I'll try to retrieve a DOOM2.WAD off of a backup tape.
You might be better off re-installing Doom2... much faster then
retrieving it and by now you know for sure you have all files needed to
play.
> P.S. What is an IWAD as opposed to a plain WAD file?
An IWAD is an official id Software out-of-the-box WAD that contains all
the Doom2 level and graphics data, a PWAD (usually called just 'wad'
around here) is a third-party WAD that replaces some of the IWAD stuff
(eg. a level).
Steven Latus
opulent wrote:
> Steven Latus wrote:
> >
> > Gaston Lahaut wrote:
> >
> > > Steven Latus wrote:
> > >
> > > > Both the EXE and the WAD files are in the same directory.
> > > > Strange, eh?
> > >
> > > Yup :) Perhaps you have more then one IWAD in the same directory like
> > > Rich suggested..?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Gaston Lahaut
> > > Author of Mordeth, Home Page at
> > > http://www.warande.uu.nl/~glahaut/mordeth.htm
> > > A Maintainer of Doomworld at
> > > http://www.doomworld.com
> > > --
> > > NOTE: Replace 'NOSPAM' with 'STUD' in reply-to address when mailing me
> >
> > I have about 8 million or so WAD files, but none named DOOM(anything).WAD.
>
> THAT is your problem. :.(
> You don't _have_ an Iwad that your executable can use! You must
> re-install.(you need an Iwad -- Doom.wad Doom1.wad Doom2.wad Tnt.wad or
> plutonia.wad)
>
> good luck, another new game is only 15 bucks....
>
> Opulent
I restored the DOOM2.WAD file from my backup and now the game works!
I figure my son deleted a few more WADs than he meant to ... =80
Now I know what an IWAD is... ;|
Thanks for your help!
Steven Latus
Rich B. wrote:
> Gaston Lahaut wrote:
> >
> > Er don't :) Stick with normal DOS Doom, since it's way better anyway.
> > Your error message "game mode indeterminate" means that it cannot find
> > the appropriate IWAD, and I assumed the engine couldn't find it because
> > you were running Doom95 with the wrong option selected. In DOS, just
> > make sure the exe and wad are in the same directory.
>
> ...I get this error when I accidentally put both Doom.wad and Doom2.wad
> (or Doom1.wad and Doom.wad) in the same directory without re-naming one
> of them to some other name...since Doom.exe v1.9 will run either one, it
> gets hysterical and refuses to launch if it encounters *both*...
>
> --
> Rich B.
> ..."Borland C++???"...
> ...(Hell, I can't get *Notepad* to work)...
I restored the DOOM2.WAD file from my backup and now the game works!
Steven Latus
Len Pitre wrote:
I restored the DOOM2.WAD file from my backup and now the game works!
Steven Latus
Gaston Lahaut wrote:
> Steven Latus wrote:
>
> > I don't have Doom95, but I will download it later to check it out.
>
> Er don't :) Stick with normal DOS Doom, since it's way better anyway.
> Your error message "game mode indeterminate" means that it cannot find
> the appropriate IWAD, and I assumed the engine couldn't find it because
> you were running Doom95 with the wrong option selected. In DOS, just
> make sure the exe and wad are in the same directory.
> --
> Gaston Lahaut
> Author of Mordeth, Home Page at
> http://www.warande.uu.nl/~glahaut/mordeth.htm
> A Maintainer of Doomworld at
> http://www.doomworld.com
> --
> NOTE: Replace 'NOSPAM' with 'STUD' in reply-to address when mailing me
I restored the DOOM2.WAD file from my backup and now the game works!
Rob Ellwood
> <snip>
> Well, precisely how are you starting Doom2? From a DOS prompt, a shortcut, or
> a "Run" dialog box? You'd never believe how much difference that makes.
Are you saying that there is a difference in performance?
If so, which do you recommend?
Len Pitre
>Len Pitre wrote:
>
>> <snip>
>> Well, precisely how are you starting Doom2? From a DOS prompt, a shortcut, or
>> a "Run" dialog box? You'd never believe how much difference that makes.
>
> Are you saying that there is a difference in performance?
>If so, which do you recommend?
>
Not so much performance as control. Doom was made for DOS, and I feel that I
have more control over it there. I don't have to worry about where I
put the shortcut, punching the command line params in in a Windows dialog box
(where I don't have DOSKEY to help me), working directories, or any of the
other Windows 95 "features". Normally I'll shell out to DOS and abandon
Windows 95 entirely, thus sparing me from accidentally hitting that accursed
windows logo key, or accidentally hitting tab while strafing (which to Windows
is alt+tab.... changes to another windows and completely disrupts me).