Fischer's escapades with a Dutch woman
Peter van der Hoog
Jinky Ong and Fischer's obsession to spread his genes (It must be
clear now to everybody that Krabbé has inside information, most likely
from Torre). Krabbé also tells about the 18-year old Hungarian girl,
who brought Fischer back to chess in 1992. According to Krabbé she got
pregnant from Fischer and she decided not to take the child. Where did
Krabbé got that news from? Krabbé also refers to the memoirs from
Tal's coach Koblenz. It's clear where he got that and some other ideas
from.
Knowing about Fischer's obsession to spread his genes one wonders why
Fischer did not marry after he became World Champion. Fischer had
clear plans in that direction. See Russians vs. the Fischer, page 226.
Also read this interview with Jeremy Silman to find out about
Fischer's escapades with a Dutch woman.
Q2) We hear that you knew Bobby Fischer in your youth. Can you say how
that came about?
A) Yes. My father, who was an artist, was getting a brochure done at
his printers. He met a woman there and somehow they got talking about
how much their sons loved chess. Suddenly the woman said, "You may
have heard of my son. His name is Bobby Fischer." That was around
1962. Bobby would have been about nineteen and already US champion for
about five years, so my father was gob-smacked. Mrs Fischer gave my
father Bobby's phone number and I called him up to invite him over to
my parents' house. I was more nervous making that phone call than I
ever was to ask a girl out.
To my shock he accepted. The night he came over, I had the whole
Columbia chess team down. It was great. Bobby was such a character. He
read everybody's palm and spoke very bluntly about everything. He told
one of my friends after reading his palm, "You're going to die young."
My father and he really hit it off. My team-mates were playing
five-minute chess on the floor and Bobby was pretending not to watch
them. Of course, they were very excited to be playing under the eye of
the Grandmaster. One of the guys made a nice sacrifice of the exchange
and Bobby, who had been watching out of the corner of his eye, said,
"Very good, very good. I thought you were a weakie." I thought my
friend would die of bliss. Bobby explained, "I don't like to watch
weak players. It ruins my game."
After that we became friends and we went to chess clubs together and
even to the beach. One time we were at the beach and Bobby saw a
pretty girl sitting by herself. He went up to her and said, "I'm Bobby
Fischer, the great chess player." It was a good opening gambit, but
she had never heard of him. Her reply made him realise she was
foreign, so he asked where she was from. She said, "Holland." Bobby
said, "Do you know Max Euwe?" (The Dutch former World Champion). She'd
never heard of him. Now Bobby had run out of ideas. He shrugged his
shoulders and walked away.
Bobby liked his friends and he liked to be admired. One night, a
friend of mine and I were sitting outside the ropes while Bobby was
playing Hans Berliner in the U.S. Championship. At one point, Bobby
played bishop takes knight. My friend whispered to me, "Why did he do
that?" since you usually didn't want to give a bishop up for a knight.
I said, well maybe it's so and so, or such and such, pointing out some
positional advantages that Bobby was getting. My friend considered it
for a bit and then said to me enthusiastically, "He's a genius!" Bobby
won and after the game we went out to eat with him, and as we walked
up Broadway, he turned to us and said, "You liked bishop takes knight,
didn't you?" He'd heard it and felt appreciated.
Another time, I visited Bobby at his house. He was living with his
mother at an apartment in Brooklyn. He played over some games for me
from the Russian publication, Schachmaty Bulletin. He saw so much so
quickly that it was breathtaking. On several occasions, he went four
or five moves ahead of the game and had to take back the moves because
he assumed play would be along other lines. That night he showed me
what he said was a refutation of the King's Gambit. He was about to go
off to play in a tournament in Argentina where the great Spassky (not
yet World Champion) would be his main rival. Bobby said he thought
that if Spassky had white, he would play the King's Gambit against
him, and then he said, "I'll take his pawn, hold it and win." It all
happened that way with one major difference. Spassky had white, he
played the King's Gambit, Bobby took his pawn, he held it, he
established a winning position, but Boris broke through and won. Bobby
was so disgusted with himself. The next time I saw him, he showed me
how completely busted Spassky had been in line after line, much of it
beyond my chess comprehension.
Speaking of Bobby's grasp of the board, I saw him play speed chess at
the Marshall Chess Club with Bernard Zuckerman. Zuckerman later became
an IM, and was then a strong master with a reputation as a speed
player. Bobby gave him five minutes and took half a minute for
himself. He crushed him game after game, all the while keeping up an
endless flow of chess heckling. His hand moved way faster than my eye
could see.
Bobby was very peculiar and certainly marched to his own drummer. He
wasn't always polite. One time the Chess Federation gave him a gift of
a suitcase before he went to represent the US in the Leipzig Chess
Olympics. The MC called him up and made the presentation, and Bobby
looked at the suitcase and said, "It's too big."
He was stubborn and a bit paranoid, but underneath it all, he was very
likeable. He had a kind of innocence, and I don't think he ever
understood why people reacted the way they did to some of his
behaviour. Bobby was certainly the greatest genius I have ever met in
any area of life, outside of yoga. But I think it was his innocence
that made people feel sympathy for him. I'm very glad that he came out
and played Spassky in 1992 and I hope he's happy in Budapest, or Japan
or wherever he is. I am sad to hear he has racist obsessions, but not
surprised. His thought process served him well in chess, but he didn't
recognise that in life they were often vitiated by his paranoia.
Sam Sloan
Sam Sloan
Hoog) wrote:
>Krabbé also tells about the 18-year old Hungarian girl,
>who brought Fischer back to chess in 1992. According to Krabbé she got
>pregnant from Fischer and she decided not to take the child. Where did
>Krabbé got that news from?
This is well known. I certainly knew it.
Less well known is that in the late 1970s he got a German woman
pregnant, or so she says, and she had an abortion too.
Needless to say, otherwise Kasparov would never have retained his
world title for so long.
Sam Sloan
Peter van der Hoog
That does not say anything. You also knew that Leko died in a car accident.
It was never published before. In an interview she (the 18-year old
Hungarian girl) tells that she had a mother-son relation with Fischer. She
denies she had a sexual relation with him.
> Less well known is that in the late 1970s he got a German woman
> pregnant, or so she says, and she had an abortion too.
Didn't the German woman wrote a book about her relationship with Fischer?
Peter van der Hoog
talks about the Iraq war, the US governement and the Jews of course. In the
end Fischer starts to sing "it's my life". They seem to have a lot of fun.
I beat you on that scope, Sloan
Peter van der Hoog
Fischer's website decided to glue it at the end of all the others, I don't
understand.
Edward David
> Tim Krabbé writes (in Dutch) on his website about Bobby Nemenyi and
> Jinky Ong and Fischer's obsession to spread his genes (It must be
> clear now to everybody that Krabbé has inside information, most likely
> from Torre). Krabbé also tells about the 18-year old Hungarian girl,
> who brought Fischer back to chess in 1992. According to Krabbé she got
> pregnant from Fischer and she decided not to take the child. Where did
> Krabbé got that news from? Krabbé also refers to the memoirs from
> Tal's coach Koblenz. It's clear where he got that and some other ideas
> from.
>
> Knowing about Fischer's obsession to spread his genes one wonders why
> Fischer did not marry after he became World Champion. Fischer had
> clear plans in that direction. See Russians vs. the Fischer, page 226.<<
Her name is Zita Rajcsanyi, a Hungarian chess star. Bobby and Zita met
after she started a correspondence with him in 1991 that led to
numerous telephone conversations and finally an invitation to go see
him in Pasadena. Zita spent six weeks in Southern CA taking walks and
talking chess with him. Why her, the female who would bring him back
to chess? She made it known from the very beginning that she didn't
want anything from him.
After the game with Spassky, they lived together for a while in
Yugoslavia until Bobby left for Hungary the following midsummer.
A year later, Zita had an interview with the Budapest Daily Kurir. She
claimed that Bobby proposed marriage to her while the two were
relaxing at a spa town in a predominantly Hungarian area of Serbia.
She claimed that she declined Bobby's proposal, that made him very
mad.
About a baby? NOT by a long shot. NONE. She could have mentioned that
she is pregnant duing the interview and about to deliver. It would
have been noticeable by the interviewer. They did not see each other
since then.
Todd E. Flambers
> Jinky Ong and Fischer's obsession to spread his genes (It must be
> clear now to everybody that Krabbé has inside information, most likely
> from Torre). Krabbé also tells about the 18-year old Hungarian girl,
> who brought Fischer back to chess in 1992. According to Krabbé she got
> pregnant from Fischer and she decided not to take the child. Where did
> Krabbé got that news from?
I don't think we should take the joke seriously but if you're so
interested why not address the question to Tim Krabbe personally?
Peter van der Hoog
> interested why not address the question to Tim Krabbe personally?
You mean this joke: "a Filipino friend of Nemenyi's set him up in a cottage
in Baguio City, and presented him with a series of willing gene-carriers,
from whom Nemenyi chose 22-year old Justine Ong"?
Krabbé is gullible, he thought for a while that Fischer was playing chess on
the Internet but in spite of that I do consider him a trustful resource.
Todd E. Flambers
Peter van der Hoog
Todd E. Flambers
> Don't tell me Krabbé is using Sloan as a source of information?????????????
It looks like he is.
Liam Too
Nope, Sam Sloan didn't know a bit about Fischer's escapades nor did
Eugene Torre. That was a very private moment and nobody knew. This is
to add Edward's (who left) posting and is verifiable:
Fischer left Yugoslavia, in the summer of 1993, for Hungary. He met
with Hungarian GM Pal Benko on the revised approach of the "shuffle
chess". Benko was already 65 at the time.
Fischer spent time with the Polgars at their vacation home in the
Danube River resort of Nagymaros to discuss the possible shuffle chess
match with Judit who was 17 at that time. Zsuzsa Polgar, who was in
Boston then (August 1993?) for an exhibition match, confirmed that a
match between her sister and Fischer was in the works. However, the
match didn't happen because Kunos and most officials of FIDE rejected
the notion that shuffle chess is tantamount to tampering with an
ancient art.
In my opinion, Fischer proposed to Zita Rajcsanyi in Serbia, but Zita
declined. That's when he left for Hungary abruptly. Zita was the only
womam that he trusted. He has that thing to most women and considers
their opinons and intellect inferior to his owm.
Liam Too
Sam Sloan
Flambers) wrote:
Not true. Krabbe did not get his information from me. However, I have
confirmed from an independant source that Krabbe's information is
basically correct.
However, what Krabbe probably does not know is that the Hungarian girl
slept with at least one other man while she was dating Fischer. So, if
she became pregnant, she might not have known who the father was.
Sam Sloan
StanB
"Peter van der Hoog" <vande...@yahoo.cpm> wrote in message
news:R1hda.14240$oe.22117@amstwist00...
> Don't tell me Krabbé is using Sloan as a source of
information?????????????
He does fancy the weird.
StanB
Liam Too
>> Krabbé is gullible, he thought for a while that Fischer was playing
chess on
> the Internet but in spite of that I do consider him a trustful resource.<<
Tell Nigel Short that a guy named Edward David kicked his donkeys with
the new Edward David Defense: 1. ...f5 2. ...Kf7
He will never forget about this game for the rest of his life.
Sam Sloan
It is becoming clear that Edward David and Liam Two are the same fake
person.
Sam Sloan
Peter van der Hoog
Here is a fragment with Yasser Seirawan. He speaks remarkable friendly about
Fischer. Maybe Yasser doesn't know what Fischer said about his wife in one
of the radio interviews.
http://members.tripod.lycos.nl/vdHoog/yasser.wmv
The intro of the documentary and a fragment of an interview in which Fischer
tells how he started to play chess.
Liam Too
>>It is becoming clear that Edward David and Liam Two are the same
fake
> person. Sam Sloan<<
What's so fake about them Sam, they never claimed to be anybody. Did
they? They were only talking on their own behalf. What were you
thinking?
Liam Too
fake
> person. Sam Sloan<<
Sam, whether they are the same person or not, whether they are fake or
not, what we are discussing are the facts:
I did my research and found that the FBI files say the following:
1. Regina went to Moscow, studied at First Moscow Medical Institute
from 1933 to 1938.
2. Gerhardt was with her and they got married in November 04, 1933.
3. In 1938 Joan was born in Moscow.
4. They went to Paris in 1938.
5. They entered the USA in 1939.
When a person is married to an America citizen, he cannot be barred
from entering the country. Therefore, Gerhardt did enter the USA in
1939.
On your website, the above people are on your family tree? Now who is
the fake? Are you leading other people to believe that Nemenyi is the
father of Fischer? You know that he is not. Gerhardt Fischer is the
father!
Liam Too (I am not the original Liam)
Todd E. Flambers
The interview with Zita Raiczanyi completely refutes yer rumors.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,3862866,00.html
Fragment from the article by By Andrew Anthony,
Guardian Unlimited
Sunday May 9, 1999
"That evening, I have dinner with a woman whom Fischer once asked to
marry. Zita Raiczanyi was a 17-year-old fan and Hungarian junior chess
champion when she sent a letter to Fischer, care of the American Chess
Federation. A year later, he wrote back. They entered into a
correspondence that quickly led to Fischer's inviting the young girl
to stay with him in LA.
Comfortably plump and homely in dress, Raiczanyi, now a 26-year-old
mother of two who married a Hungarian chess player, has a teasingly
sharp sense of humour and a keen mind. She also speaks near-perfect
English. It's not hard to see why Fischer found her attractive. In
Hungary, it is assumed that she and Fischer were lovers. During their
relationship, Fischer called her his fiancйe. She denies that
her friendship with Fischer was sexual. 'He was very kind,' she
recalls of their first meeting at LAX airport. 'He was friendly to
strangers, getting into conversations on the street. Maybe the point
was, these people didn't know him.'
She says she stayed with Fischer's friend in LA, a man who shared his
beliefs about Jews, and the one who recently forgot to pay the rent on
the storage space. 'Of course,' says Raiczanyi, raising her eyes in
mock despair, 'he now realises the guy was a Jew.'
I ask her if Fischer ever explained his hatred of Jews. 'He told me
that, in his childhood, his mother had lots of Jewish friends who
spent lots of time at the apartment, in endless conversation. At about
12 years old, he decided this wasn't normal.'
Yet that decision does not appear to have prevented Fischer from
relying on friends. For years, they would put him up for weeks or
months at a time. Even in Hungary, he would visit chess player Lazlo
Polgar, and moan for hours about Jews. Polgar is Jewish. Raiczanyi
says that Polgar, whose daughter Judit is one of the world's leading
players, tolerated Fischer because of the standing his company
conferred in the Budapest chess community. She also claims that Polgar
sold Fischer's autographs. (Polgar refused to speak to me when I
called, and stated that he didn't know Fischer.)
In California, Raiczanyi met Regina Fischer. 'She was very nice, a
strong lady. Bobby started talking about Jews, and she said: ?Why do
you think you're so pure??'
Fischer had a one-room flat in downtown LA, where he lived using the
pseudonym of Robert James (James is his middle name). 'He was very
poor. I was lending him money sometimes,' says Raiczanyi. It was she
who persuaded Fischer to play again by suggesting that she would find
a sponsor.
Back in Hungary, she met Janos Kabut, a newspaper publisher, who put
her in touch with Serbian millionaire Jezdimir Vasiljevic. Between
them, they brokered a deal with Fischer. The American's demands were,
as ever, exacting. He wanted 15 bodyguards and insisted that the nose
of the knight piece should be a certain length. Kubat once said that
dealing with Fischer was simple: you just give him everything he asks
for.
Raiczanyi attended the Fischer/Spassky rematch, which took place in
1992 in Belgrade and Montenegro. She says that she barely saw Fischer,
as he was preoccupied with the game. Afterwards, he began calling her
in Budapest, telling her that they should get married and have
children. She says she was shocked, not least because she was going
out with the man to whom she is now married. 'Bobby said, ?Leave him.
I've won from worse positions than this.?'
She refused, and eventually - after Fischer continued to repeat his
appeal - broke off contact in 1993. It wasn't until his birthday in
March this year that she called him again. They met up and, maniacally
upset, he told her about the sale of his goods in Pasadena. Fischer is
under threat of a jail sentence and a $200,000 fine if he returns to
America, as a result of an indictment for breaking the US embargo on
Yugoslavia. Naturally, Fischer sees the hand of Jewish conspiracy, but
his revulsion encompasses all representatives of the US state. He told
Raiczanyi that the American soldiers held captive in Yugoslavia should
be executed.
He also complained that a new edition of his book, My 60 Memorable
Games, published by the British company Batsford, had deliberately
rendered his moves incorrectly. Again, he saw further evidence of a
Jewish plot. I called Graham Burgess, who was responsible for the new
edition, and asked him if there were mistakes. He conceded that there
had been one particular error, but that he had corrected many others
from the first edition. He was very sympathetic to Fischer and did not
want to be seen in opposition to him. 'Chess books are very
complicated, and I used a new notation system,' he explained, then
added, as an afterthought: 'I'm not Jewish, by the way.'
Raiczanyi is studying to be a psychologist. I ask her why she thinks
Fischer, a man with an IQ of more than 180, had developed such a
debilitating persecution complex. 'If a person is not able to confess
his own mistakes,' she replies, 'he tries to project them on other
people.'
sl...@ishipress.com (Sam Sloan) wrote in message news:<3e75e680...@ca.news.verio.net>...
Peter van der Hoog
The FBI files say that Gerhard Fischer never entered the USA but the
question remains: Why did Gerhard Fischer went to South-America and not
follow his family to the USA. After the relation with his mother got better
she might have answered him these questions and even told him who is real
father was.
"Liam Too" <liamt...@yahoo.com> schreef in bericht
news:37a58e25.0303...@posting.google.com...
Liam Too
> > 5. They entered the USA in 1939.
>
> The FBI files say that Gerhard Fischer never entered the USA but the
> question remains: Why did Gerhard Fischer went to South-America and not
> follow his family to the USA. After the relation with his mother got better
> she might have answered him these questions and even told him who is real
> father was.
Bobby's relation with his mother was not very good as he described to
Ralph Ginzburg in a Harper's interview of January 1962. Bobby said,
"She and I just don't see eye to eye together. She's a square. She
keeps telling me that I'm too interested in chess, that I should get
friends outside of chess, you can't make a living from chess, that I
should finish high school and all that nonsense. She keeps in my hair
and I don't like people in my hair, you know, so I had to get rid of
her …. I don't have anything to do with her."
His relation with his mother never got better. Regina soon moved out
of the apartment that she shared with Bobby and participated with the
activists in an 8-month "Peace March" in San Francisco, where she met
Cyril Pustan, got married and settled in England.
Todd E. Flambers
> question remains: Why did Gerhard Fischer went to South-America and not
> follow his family to the USA.
Why are you sure he did not? Joan Targ was lying? Did you see the FBI
files of only read the article?
After the relation with his mother got better
> she might have answered him these questions and even told him who is real
> father was.
In 1970s Fischer said that his father is Gerhardt Fischer. And it
seems that somehow Sam Sloan does not like this interview and wants to
convince us that Fischer can't have said it.
Sam Sloan
Where are these FBI files you claim to have seen?
Sam Sloan
Sam Sloan
Flambers) wrote:
I keep asking you and you have not answered: Show us where Fischer
said that. I am sure that he said no such thing.
Sam Sloan
Sam Sloan
Flambers) wrote:
>One more lie.
>The interview with Zita Raiczanyi completely refutes yer rumors.
>
>
>http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,3862866,00.html
>
Nothing in that article refutes anything I have written. What are you
talking about?
Sam Sloan
Liam Too
> > 5. They entered the USA in 1939.
>
> The FBI files say that Gerhard Fischer never entered the USA but the
> question remains: Why did Gerhard Fischer went to South-America and not
> follow his family to the USA. After the relation with his mother got better
> she might have answered him these questions and even told him who is real
> father was.
Peter,
The Phylly Inquirer says that Gerhardt Fischer was barred from
entering the USA.
The FBI files say that from Moscow to Paris to USA, they entered the
USA in 1939, that is Regina, Joan and Gerhardt.
The exact wording is "She departed from Moscow in 1938, resided for a
short time at Paris and returned to this country in 1939" The FBI used
the word "she", because they were describing her. Of course she was
with a one year old Joan, who was bon in Moscow in 1938 and the
husband Gerard, whom she married on November 4, 1933 and lived with
him in Moscow.
How can the Phylly Inquirer missed this fact? Sam Sloan?
Peter van der Hoog
Not true at all. He regurlarly visited his mother; see the interview with
Zita Rajcsanyi. In the interview where Fischer rebukes the World Wide Church
he speaks very kindly about his mother; The same goes for the radio
interviews; He compares himself with his mother, as both being packrats. On
his own website he listed items of his mother. Everything points to a good
relations.
Peter van der Hoog
I don't know what you want to proof. The article is based on the FBI files
and according to the article Gerhardt Fischer didn't enter the USA . Did you
read the complete FBI files on Regina?
Peter van der Hoog
Sam Sloan
Missed what fact? I have asked you about ten times where are these FBI
files that according to you show that Gerhardt Fischer lived in the US
from 1939 to about 1945 and you have not responded.
Sam Sloan
Todd E. Flambers
To prevent the same question from you again, I specially repeat it 8
times:"Russians vs Fischer", p 47; "Russians vs Fischer", p 47;
"Russians vs Fischer", p 47;Russians vs Fischer", p 47; "Russians vs
Fischer", p 47; "Russians vs Fischer", p 47;Russians vs Fischer", p
47; "Russians vs Fischer", p 47.
Got it now?
Liam Too
>
> Where are these FBI files you claim to have seen? Sam Sloan<<
Go get yourself a copy, why ask mine?
Todd E. Flambers
her friendship with Fischer was sexual. "
Rajchanyi can't have been pregnant from Fischer because she was not his girl-friend.
Robert Musicant
"Liam Too" <liamt...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:37a58e25.03031...@posting.google.com...
> His relation with his mother never got better. Regina soon moved out
> of the apartment that she shared with Bobby and participated with the
> activists in an 8-month "Peace March" in San Francisco, where she met
> Cyril Pustan, got married and settled in England.
Liam Too,
Peter is quite right, and he didn't need any inside sources to learn of it.
It is widely known that Bobby and his mother reconciled in later years. She
didn't stay in England. She'd been back in the U.S. for some time before
she died in, I forget if it was '98 or '99 . Bobby told his German
girlfriend when she was visiting him in California in 1998 that he wanted
her to meet his mother, that he thought she would find mom interesting.
Bob
Sam Sloan
Flambers) wrote:
You seem to be amazingly stupid. The book you cite was written by
Koblenz. Koblenz never interviewed Fischer. The book recounts how
"years later" he read an interview of Fischer in a Zagreb newspaper.
He does not even give the name of the newspaper, nor does he give the
year it was published, much less the exact date.
There was an interview of Fischer in about 1961, not 1971. This is
undoubtedly the interview to which Koblenz is referring. In that
inteview, Fischer said only that his father was a physicist. This is
true. Paul Nemenyi was a physicist who worked with the son of Albert
Einstein. However, in that 1961 interview, Fischer never provided the
name of his father. You can find it on the web somewhere.
There is no evidence that Gerhardt Fischer was a physicist. He worked
in a store in Chile selling light bulbs.
Sam Sloan
Sam Sloan
Flambers) wrote:
Boy. You are really dumb, aren't you?
StanB
"Sam Sloan" <sl...@ishipress.com> wrote in message
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> >Rajchanyi can't have been pregnant from Fischer because she was not his
girl-friend.
>
> Boy. You are really dumb, aren't you?
He still thinks the stork brings the baby.
StanB
Robert Musicant
"Robert Musicant" <musi...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Liam Too" <liamt...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:37a58e25.03031...@posting.google.com...
>
> > His relation with his mother never got better. Regina soon moved out
> > of the apartment that she shared with Bobby and participated with the
> > activists in an 8-month "Peace March" in San Francisco, where she met
> > Cyril Pustan, got married and settled in England.
>
> Liam Too,
> Peter is quite right, and he didn't need any inside sources to learn of
it.
> It is widely known that Bobby and his mother reconciled in later years.
She
> didn't stay in England. She'd been back in the U.S. for some time before
> she died in, I forget if it was '98 or '99 . Bobby told his German
> girlfriend when she was visiting him in California in 1998
Regina died in 1997. The girlfriend's visit was in 1988.
Liam Too
> Peter is quite right, and he didn't need any inside sources to learn of it.
> It is widely known that Bobby and his mother reconciled in later years. She
> didn't stay in England. She'd been back in the U.S. for some time before
> she died in, I forget if it was '98 or '99 . Bobby told his German
> girlfriend when she was visiting him in California in 1998 that he wanted
> her to meet his mother, that he thought she would find mom interesting.
> Bob
True, I was talking about the early years before Regina settled in England.
Liam Too
Peter,
The FBI files say that from Moscow to Paris to USA, they entered the
USA in 1939, that is Regina, Joan and Gerhardt.
The exact wording is "She departed from Moscow in 1938, resided for a
short time at Paris and returned to this country in 1939" The FBI used
the word "she", because they were describing her. Of course she was
with a one year old Joan, who was bon in Moscow in 1938 and the
husband Gerard, whom she married on November 4, 1933 and lived with
him in Moscow.
Joan said, Gerhardt didn't go to Chile until after the divorce in
1945.
However, the article said, "Her husband, Hans-Gerhardt Fischer, was
thousands of miles away in Santiago, Chile, barred by immigration
authorities from entering the country".
As you can see, two diiferent versions. What would you beleive, the
FBI files or the article as narrated by Sam Sloan to the reporter of
Phylly Inquirer?
Why would the Inquirer say that Gerhardt was barred from entering the
country? I believe that Todd mentioned that he asked the Inquirer on
this and he did not get an answer.
Todd E. Flambers
I see. Not having real arguments you are using lies and labels. Read
attentively: Rajchanyi claims, that she did not have sexual relation
with Bobby Fischer. They were only friends. No sexual relation, no
pregnancy. When you state that Rajchanyi was pregnant from Fischer and
made an abortion, you are telling lies. Or repeating those lies after
somebody else. And yer hysterical inadequate reactions when I caught
you on yer lies, only prove that you are a liar and yer words don't
worth a shit.
End of story.
Todd E. Flambers
> Koblenz. Koblenz never interviewed Fischer. The book recounts how
> "years later" he read an interview of Fischer in a Zagreb newspaper.
> He does not even give the name of the newspaper, nor does he give the
> year it was published, much less the exact date.
Read the text again: the interview with Fischer was published in the
newspaper "Start" in Zagreb at the beginning of 70s. Koblenz read it.
He is a respectable person and he is telling the truth. If you don't
trust the book, go to Zagreb and search the paper in the library.
>
> There was an interview of Fischer in about 1961, not 1971. This is
> undoubtedly the interview to which Koblenz is referring. In that
> inteview, Fischer said only that his father was a physicist. This is
> true. Paul Nemenyi was a physicist who worked with the son of Albert
> Einstein. However, in that 1961 interview, Fischer never provided the
> name of his father. You can find it on the web somewhere.
I read this interview many times! It was an interview with Ralph
Ginzburg, given by Fischer in 1961 in New York. Koblenz did not
mention it!
>
> There is no evidence that Gerhardt Fischer was a physicist. He worked
> in a store in Chile selling light bulbs.
Great!!! Guys, have you understood the point: in Moscow University
Gerhardt Fischer studied HOW TO SELL LIGHT BULBS!
Keep up writing, Sloan! Yer messages make me weep like Paul Nemenyi. I
weep from laughing. The best of yer pearls I'll publish on my sites!
Liam Too
The FBI files didn't actually say that he lived from 1939 to 1945 in
the USA. The FBI files said what I said, EXACTLY!
DUH Sloan, look around you, everybody is waiving their copy of the FBI
files in you face!
I told you ten times that if you haven't seen the FBI files, what you
said to the reporter of the Philly Inquirer are all lies!
francois
Does anyone know what is the first background music of the second
documentary (with voices and flute)
François
George John
"francois" <frank...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I believe this is music of James Horner from the movie "A Beautiful Mind".
The vocalist is Charlotte Church.
George
Neil Brennen
"George John" <geo...@neosoft.com> wrote in message
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Charlotte Church, AKA the Welsh Wobbler.