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Sanny

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Nov 4, 2009, 2:52:45 AM11/4/09
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Now GetClub is much improved. Now, Its playing like other strong Chess
Engines

I am thinking in 2-3 years GetClub will come in [Top 10]

Please Test it with other Engines:[Fritz/ Rybka/ ChessMaster]
http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Let me know whats the performance of GetClub against other engines. I
tested against Rybka but my connection breaks in half of the game.

I want to know if GetClub Chess plays as good as [Top 10] programs.

Since there are 5 levels

Baby [2 sec / move] 2200+ As good as Help Bot/ Taylor Kingston

Beginner [15 sec / move] 2400+ As good as Phil Inns/ SamSloan [May be]

Easy [1 min/ move] 2600+ As good as International Master

Normal [4 min/ move] 2800+ As good as a Grand Master

What will be the rating of GetClub. Since taking longer time will
improve the rating. As Fritz has a rating of 3000+ How many seconds
Fritz thinks to play at 3000+ rating?

What should I do when my program starts beating Rybka/ Fritz/
ChessMaster etc?

I want some Chess Magazines to write about GetClub Chess. Saying that
"GetClub is in Top 10 Chess Programs."

Bye
Sanny

Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)

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Nov 4, 2009, 3:15:12 AM11/4/09
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On Nov 3, 11:52 pm, Sanny <softtank...@hotmail.com> wrote:

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> I am thinking in 2-3 years GetClub will come in [Top 10]

And a pig will fly on a broom to another galactic.

Sanny, please, do me a favor - stop using the phrase
"am thinking". Avoid all forms of the word "think".

Thank you for your ... understanding :-)

Wlod

Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)

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Nov 4, 2009, 3:19:13 AM11/4/09
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On Nov 4, 12:15 am, "Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)"

<sennaj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 3, 11:52 pm, Sanny <softtank...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
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> > I am thinking in 2-3 years GetClub will come in [Top 10]
>
> And a pig will fly on a broom to another galactic.

Make it "galactica" or "galaxy".

Wlod

Sanny

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Nov 4, 2009, 10:06:45 AM11/4/09
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> > > I am thinking in 2-3 years GetClub will come in [Top 10]
>
> > And a pig will fly on a broom to another galactic.
>
> Make it "galactica" or "galaxy".

Just like Harry Potter.

You can see a small documentary on Harry Potter Movie here

http://www.getclub.com/Show/view.php?best=Movies&itemid=12

I love the way Harry Potter is tortured by his uncle & aunt.

Do you still have agony with GetClub?

What are the problems you face while playing Chess at GetClub?

I want to see your games at GetClub Chess.

Bye
Sanny


Thomas T. Veldhouse

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Nov 4, 2009, 1:01:20 PM11/4/09
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In rec.games.chess.computer Sanny <softt...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Now GetClub is much improved. Now, Its playing like other strong Chess
> Engines
>

Wow .. I want some of what ever the fuck that you are smoking!

Sorry for the language, but it is required to push the point home here.

--
Thomas T. Veldhouse

Religion is a crutch, but that's okay... humanity is a cripple.

Offramp

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Nov 4, 2009, 4:20:20 PM11/4/09
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On 4 Nov, 15:06, Sanny <softtank...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I love the way Harry Potter is tortured by his uncle & aunt.

How awful.

Sanny

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Nov 5, 2009, 5:53:47 AM11/5/09
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See the film and you will enjoy that too.

http://www.getclub.com/Show/view.php?best=Movies&itemid=12

Its just comedy.

Bye
Sanny

tjb

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Nov 5, 2009, 9:23:37 AM11/5/09
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Sanny <softt...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Since there are 5 levels
>
> Baby [2 sec / move] 2200+ As good as Help Bot/ Taylor Kingston
>
> Beginner [15 sec / move] 2400+ As good as Phil Inns/ SamSloan [May be]
>
> Easy [1 min/ move] 2600+ As good as International Master
>
> Normal [4 min/ move] 2800+ As good as a Grand Master

2400+ is beginner level?

Thomas T. Veldhouse

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Nov 5, 2009, 11:45:28 AM11/5/09
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Yeah ... and 15 seconds a move too! Isn't it great?

JVMe...@aol.com

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Nov 5, 2009, 3:01:20 PM11/5/09
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On Nov 3, 11:52 pm, Sanny <softtank...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> I am thinking in 2-3 years GetClub will come in [Top 10]

No, it won't.

> Please Test it with other Engines:[Fritz/ Rybka/ ChessMaster]

There's no point in testing your engine against Rybka / Fritz /
Chessmaster, as it will lose every game.

> Let me know whats the performance of GetClub against other engines. I
> tested against Rybka but my connection breaks in half of the game.

And that's part of the reason.

> I want to know if GetClub Chess plays as good as [Top 10] programs.

Not even remotely close. Not even top 100. Possibly not even top 200.

> What should I do when my program starts beating Rybka/ Fritz/
> ChessMaster etc?

Thank the person who rewrote every line of code in it.

My guess is that your engine is not even in the top 150 of KNOWN
engines in the world, let alone all of the unpublished ones.

Here's a thought. I've gone to a relatively well-known rating list
where over 200 engines are rated using tens of thousands of games.

http://wbec-ridderkerk.nl/html/BayesianElo_ed16.htm

Try a 20-game match against the #148 engine, TJChess, using a
consistent time control throughout the match. Pick any time control
that you like. I choose TJChess because it is a recent one that can
now be downloaded at http://tonyjh.com/chess/tjchess. TJ Chess is
relatively consistently rated around 2000-2100.

Of course, having a match of this type is almost impossible because
your engine doesn't know anything at all about clock management, so it
will almost certainly lose several games on time no matter what you
do. But that's part of what REAL computer chess is all about -- as
opposed to your crappy engine and even crappier website. As long as
your engine doesn't know about a clock, anything you say about its
strength is a lie.

If you are able to actually have this match, and you count losses on
time, you'll see how bad your engine is. Remember, GetClub will have
to win the match just to be rated around 2050.

But it won't, because it isn't.

jm

Patrick Volk

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Nov 6, 2009, 10:07:23 PM11/6/09
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I would submit that Sanny is referring to the Zelo (Zimbabwean Elo)
point system.

chip...@gmail.com

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Nov 13, 2009, 9:20:19 PM11/13/09
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> I love the way Harry Potter is tortured by his uncle & aunt.

Yes, they made him play chess at GitClub and he couldn't take it for
very long.

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