On Jan 28, 8:12 am, ChessFire <
onech...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Jan 27, 12:59 pm, Taylor Kingston <
ttk5...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Jan 27, 6:01 am, Your smrat ® <
yoursm...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > Unless this is the fake Sam Sloan running for president, which would
> > > create a sort of reverse Manchurian candidate scenario the likely
> > > upshot of which is that the real Sam Sloan ends up assassinating
> > > himself by mistake and the fake Sam Sloan republishes the book by
> > > Richard Condon - violating that novel's copyright, as well as the
> > > copyright of Robert Graves' I Claudius, from whence the Manchurian
> > > Candidate was plagiarized
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> > Interesting. I had not heard of this plagiarism charge, and at first
> > I thought you were pulling our collective leg, but checking various
> > sources online I see that the charge was made in earnest and has some
> > basis. Apparently, though, Condon just took the odd sentence or two
> > here and there, and borrowed from other sources besides Graves' novel.
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> I suppose it is minor plagiarism,
The clearest example seems to be this sentence:
"Johnny knew in his superstitious heart of hearts that his marriage to
Raymond's mother was an impious thing and this knowledge, it seems,
affected him nervously, putting an inner restraint upon his flesh."
This was lifted, with minor additions, from a passage in "I,
Claudius" describing Augustus' lack of sexual interest in his wife
Livia:
"He knew that the marriage was impious: this knowledge, it seems,
affected him nervously, putting an inner restraint on his flesh."
> even if Graves' title is an utter
> white-wash and fiction of 'dear old' Claudius, who seems to have
> gained a world record for crucifying children.
Yes, the historians I've read (e.g. Michael Grant) indicate that
Claudius, though one of the more benevolent and responsible of Roman
rulers, was quite autocratic, authoritarian and occasionally ruthless,
and not at all the gentle small-r republican Graves portrayed. Hadn't
heard about the crucifying children bit, though.
More about the plagiarism can be read here:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/10/04/DD13399.DTL