GC vs Ivan
SAT W-7
How come GC can not start the game ?
When people go to your webste you do not make GC's first 6 moves for
them ....
i do not think any pieces should be taken by you in the first 6 moves
unless Ivan takes the first piece...What do you think ?
nite
Sanny
> D-7 to D-5 was Ivans move
Game with GETCLUB.com CHESS.
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Setup IVAN to think 80 sec per move.
Manual Opening Move: 3. d5
Beginner [8 sec / move] vs [IVAN 80 sec/ move]
1. e4 c6
2. d4 d5
3. e5
[After 6th move I will setup Beginner Level]
> How come GC can not start the game ?
> When people go to your webste you do not make GC's first 6 moves for
> them ....
Anyone can play the opening moves. But first 4 moves are not recorded.
So if a person 4/5 moves and come back to play the recorded game, He
is asked to play a new game.
It is done so that games where there is silli mistake in opening can
be cancelled. Incase someone has played till 6th move. Then hig game
is recorded. Now he has to complete the game or resign the game.
So I have to update game after 6 moves have been played as initial
moves are not recorded by GetClub.
> i do not think any pieces should be taken by you in the first 6 moves
> unless Ivan takes the first piece...What do you think ?
I will try to make moves that do not have exchanges.
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
SAT W-7
6.37 AM Thursday now , just got home from work.
Worked 7.00 PM to 5.I5 AM ......Now i start my two days off ......Back
in Saturday at 5.00 PM..
I am tired ..
Have stuff to do today but will i get up ?
My alarm is set for I0.00 AM .....
nite
so far a good game
Sanny
> Ivans move is C-8 to F-5 Bishop move
Game with GETCLUB.com CHESS.
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Setup IVAN to think 80 sec per move.
Manual Opening Move: 4. Nc3
Beginner [8 sec / move] vs [IVAN 80 sec/ move]
1. e4 c6
2. d4 d5
3. e5 Bf5
4. Nc3
[After 6th move I will setup Beginner Level]
How much time is IVAN taking for each move?
SAT W-7
it is moving right away so it must still be in a opening book ....As the
game moves on it will take longer i am sure....
Ten AM now , i did wake up but i have not gotten up yet..ha ha.... I am
still very tired but i do have stuff to get done so i am going to force
myself to get up and get it done....by by
GC has the middle .....
Sanny
> Ivans move is Pawn E-7 to E-6
Game with GETCLUB.com CHESS.
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Setup IVAN to think 80 sec per move.
Manual Opening Move: 5. g4
Beginner [8 sec / move] vs [IVAN 80 sec/ move]
1. e4 c6
2. d4 d5
3. e5 Bf5
4. Nc3 e6
5. g4
[After 6th move I will setup Beginner Level]
I Think instead of 45 moves in 45 min You should increase time to 40
moves in 80 min. Ivan should think atleast 2 min / move to beat the
Beginner Level.
SAT W-7
That is 45 moves in I45 minutes ..One Hundred forty five minutes....
I think your over extending GC but we will see.
interesting game so far , but still a long way to go.....
Sanny
Now, I have to Setup the board at GetClub. The computer which is used
to setup the board is not working. So it may take 2-3 days to setup
the position.
Bye
Sanny
SAT W-7
I.50 PM Friday now
Work Sat at 5.00 PM...two hours earlier than normal and i just hope i
get OFF two hours earlier ...I bet i have to work two hours longer.
I hope not ,,,,,,,
by by
Sanny
My computer is under repairs. So It may take 2-3 days more.
It would be interesting to see this game complete.
SAT W-7
The problems your having with your computer is one reason i have never
bought a real computer ...My webtv never crashes , never gets viruses ,
and never has any other problems real computers get ....
But then again my webtv can not do very much either ...
it is sunny and about 40 degrees here...
I work at 5.00 PM today and it is I0.45 AM now just woke up....I am
still tired so i am going to lay here and sleep or relax more until i
have to get up and go to work..I do not feel like working but i have
too..
I have Wednesday night off this week...
I work at 7.00 PM Thursday night , that is New Years Eve . i hate
driving on that night because we have a lot of drunk drivers and lots of
extra police out to arrest them....
Well have a good day,,,,,
by by
Sanny
> Thanks for letting me know ..
>
> The problems your having with your computer is one reason i have never
> bought a real computer ...My webtv never crashes , never gets viruses ,
> and never has any other problems real computers get ....
> But then again my webtv can not do very much either ...
Today, My computer was corrected.
I bought an external Hard disk and took backup of all data. So if in
future something happens to my computer. Then I can get back of all
data till todays date.
The Seagate 320 GB Hard disk I bought has warrenty of 5 years. Whats
the Average life of such harddisk?
I will just put it in a box and take out only once in a month to take
backups.
Will this harddisk work correctly for 20 yrs ? Since I will not be
touching it for long will the data be safe inside it?
I have to do a few regular Jobs: Looking for Mails/ GetClub
Maintenance and a few regular Jobs that I haven't done for 2 weeks.
Then I will setup the Chess Board. I think It will take 2-3 days to
setup the board.
I have a few ideas for improving the GetClub Chess. I hope that makes
GetClub Chess Stronger.
SAT W-7
with you..
5 year warranty sounds good to me too , make sure you fill out the
warranty card and do every thing the right way that way 4 years from now
if it breaks you can take it back and they will not say " sorry you did
not do the warranty the right way" and not fix it ....
I.30 PM Sat now , just waking up.......
I am back to my normal work schedule now , 7.00 PM to 2.30 AM with
Monday and Friday nights off......
I do not feel like working tonight but i have too.
by by
Sanny
GetClub Played : 6. B-d3
Will IVAN exchange the Bishops?
Beginner [8 sec / move] vs [IVAN 3 min/ move]
1. e4 c6
2. d4 d5
3. e5 Bf5
4. Nc3 e6
5. g4 Bg6
[After 6th move I will setup Beginner Level]
Looks like agood game
SAT W-7
It is thinking of moving the other bishop out.
GC + 0.I
Glad your back , yes this does look like a interesting game ..
Ivan just develops pieces .
Do you kow the name of the opening ?
Well i think i will make some lunch ...
have a good day..
SAT W-7
piece ....
I wish it played a more aggressive style but it sits and waits until
you make a mistake..
Sanny
> Ivans move is F-8 to E-7 bishop move..
Setup IVAN to think 3 min per move.
GetClub Played : 7. N-f3
[Score: 1.0 advantage to GetClub.]
Will IVAN exchange the Bishops?
Beginner [8 sec / move] vs [IVAN 3 min/ move]
1. e4 c6
2. d4 d5
3. e5 Bf5
4. Nc3 e6
5. g4 Bg6
6. Bd3 Be7
7. Nf3
GetClub pawns are well ahead marching towards your king.
SAT W-7
GC + 0.2
This game is long from being over ..
Now what will GC do ?
Inpassant ? or take with the G-pawn ?
Sanny
> ivans move is F-7 to F-5 ..
Setup IVAN to think 3 min per move.
GetClub Played : 7. exf6
[Score: 3.0 advantage to GetClub.]
Will IVAN exchange the Bishops?
Beginner [8 sec / move] vs [IVAN 3 min/ move]
1. e4 c6
2. d4 d5
3. e5 Bf5
4. Nc3 e6
5. g4 Bg6
6. Bd3 Be7
7. Nf3 f5
8. exf6 (en)
> This game is long from being over ..
>
> Now what will GC do ?
>
> Inpassant ?
Yes, It took your pawn by Enpassent.
SAT W-7
GC + 0,2
Now GC has to protect the D-4 pawn with the knight ...
good game.
Sanny
> Ivans move Bishop E-7 x F-6 pawn....
Setup IVAN to think 3 min per move.
GetClub Played : 9. 0-0
[Score: 1.0 advantage to GetClub.]
Will IVAN exchange the Bishops?
Beginner [8 sec / move] vs [IVAN 3 min/ move]
1. e4 c6
2. d4 d5
3. e5 Bf5
4. Nc3 e6
5. g4 Bg6
6. Bd3 Be7
7. Nf3 f5
8. exf6 Bxf6
9. 0-0
> GC + 0,2
>
> Now GC has to protect the D-4 pawn with the knight ...
It is already protected by knight.
SAT W-7
Yes i know the Knight is protecting the pawn..
Now it is thinking of trading the bishops..That is the move....Now does
GC x with the pawn or Queen?
GC + 0.2
I would take with the Queen , why double the pawns .....
Interesting game so far
4.I3 AM Sun now ,,,going to bed ....nite
Sanny
> Ivans move is , G-6 x D-3 , bishop x bishop..
Setup IVAN to think 3 min per move.
GetClub Played : 10. Qxd3
[Score: 0.11 advantage to GetClub.]
Will IVAN exchange the Bishops?
Beginner [8 sec / move] vs [IVAN 3 min/ move]
1. e4 c6
2. d4 d5
3. e5 Bf5
4. Nc3 e6
5. g4 Bg6
6. Bd3 Be7
7. Nf3 f5
8. exf6 Bxf6
9. 0-0 Bxd3
10. Qxd3
> I would take with the Queen , why double the pawns .....
Yes, It took Bishop by Queen.
> Interesting game so far
Now its a equal game. Is IVAN thinking 3 min per move?
SAT W-7
Glad i came back on right before i am going to bed ..stayed up a little
longer ..
It has to make 45 moves in I45 minutes ..So some times it moves fast and
now it is taking about 2 I./2 min ..it just moved It was thinking of
Knight to A - 6 but changed it's mind and made the other move ....
now i am off to bed .....
good game so far ....
id say GC and ivan are pretty even .....
Sanny
> Ivans move is B-8 to D-7 , Knight move..
Setup IVAN to think 3 min per move.
GetClub Played : 11. B-e3
[Score: 0.02 advantage to GetClub.]
Will IVAN exchange the Bishops?
Beginner [8 sec / move] vs [IVAN 3 min/ move]
1. e4 c6
2. d4 d5
3. e5 Bf5
4. Nc3 e6
5. g4 Bg6
6. Bd3 Be7
7. Nf3 f5
8. exf6 Bxf6
9. 0-0 Bxd3
10. Qxd3 Nd7
11. Be3
> It has to make 45 moves in I45 minutes ..So some times it moves fast and
> now it is taking about 2 I./2 min ..it just moved It was thinking of
> Knight to A - 6 but changed it's mind and made the other move ....
That was a good move. The game is nearly equal.
SAT W-7
Have to get ready for work ..i do not feel like working either but i
have too ..
Looks like it is setting up to castle
Yes even now 0.0 is what Ivan thinks this game is ..
OK i am off to get ready for work..
will look when i get home..
Sanny
> Ivans move is Queen D-8 to C-7
Setup IVAN to think 3 min per move.
GetClub Played : 12. g5
[Score: 0.02 advantage to GetClub.]
Will IVAN exchange the Bishops?
Beginner [8 sec / move] vs [IVAN 3 min/ move]
1. e4 c6
2. d4 d5
3. e5 Bf5
4. Nc3 e6
5. g4 Bg6
6. Bd3 Be7
7. Nf3 f5
8. exf6 Bxf6
9. 0-0 Bxd3
10. Qxd3 Nd7
11. Be3 Qc7
12. g5
> Looks like it is setting up to castle
It should castle queenside as Kingside the pawns are quite ahead.
I think playing g5 has weaken GetClubs King side what do you think?
SAT W-7
Yes i was wondering why G-5 ?
I think GC should have castled Queen side too.
Now the G-5 and D-4 pawns need to be protected and that bogs down your
pieces ..
Nite
I have to work Monday night this week and i think next week ..I get
Thursday night and Friday night off this week ...Now i am thinking of
going to the chess mall on Thursday ? Id say 60 % not go and 40 %
go......
Sanny
> Ivans move is Bishop F-6 to E-7
Setup IVAN to think 3 min per move.
GetClub Played : 14. R-c1
[Score: 0.61 advantage to GetClub.]
Will IVAN exchange the Bishops?
Beginner [8 sec / move] vs [IVAN 3 min/ move]
1. e4 c6
2. d4 d5
3. e5 Bf5
4. Nc3 e6
5. g4 Bg6
6. Bd3 Be7
7. Nf3 f5
8. exf6 Bxf6
9. 0-0 Bxd3
10. Qxd3 Nd7
11. Be3 Qc7
12. g5 Be7
14. R-c1
> I think GC should have castled Queen side too.
>
> Now the G-5 and D-4 pawns need to be protected and that bogs down your
> pieces ..
Yes, to some extent.
> Now i am thinking of
> going to the chess mall on Thursday ? Id say 60 % not go and 40 %
> go......
When you visit the Mall ask the chess players to Play at GetClub.com
site. I hope a few must be having computer to play Chess Online at
GetClub.
Lets see how those players play against the Baby[2 sec/move] & Beginner
[8 sec/move] Levels.
SAT W-7
want to move ?
I do not want to guess because if i guess wong then i have to take
back moves so i will wait until i see your move ..
I work tonight too ..
Just woke up at I0.00 AM Monday but i am still tired so i am going back
to sleep.....
Sanny
> Sanny you have two rooks that can move to C-I ...Which rook do you
> want to move ?
It is Rook at a1 to c1. Ra-c1.
> I do not want to guess because if i guess wong then i have to take
> back moves so i will wait until i see your move ..
Thats good.
SAT W-7
I thought it was the A-rook but why not grab the open E -file ?
even game 0.0
nite
Sanny
> ivans move is E-8 to C-8 castle , rook to D=8
Setup IVAN to think 3 min per move.
GetClub Played : 14. Rf-e1
[Score: 0.61 advantage to GetClub.]
Will IVAN exchange the Bishops?
Beginner [8 sec / move] vs [IVAN 3 min/ move]
1. e4 c6
2. d4 d5
3. e5 Bf5
4. Nc3 e6
5. g4 Bg6
6. Bd3 Be7
7. Nf3 f5
8. exf6 Bxf6
9. 0-0 Bxd3
10. Qxd3 Nd7
11. Be3 Qc7
12. g5 Be7
14. R-c1 0-0-0
14. Rf-e1
> I thought it was the A-rook but why not grab the open E -file ?
Now it played Rook at f1 to E 1. So now Both Rooks are active.
SAT W-7
Ok , if i go to the chess mall i will....I am not sure i will or not
right now , i have a cold , it hit me Sunday after work ..It is not a
bad one but still i hate having colds ..
even game 0.0
see it ?
Ivans Queen is baring down on H-2 pawn which is protected by GC knight
but if Ivan moves his bishop to D-6 that is more pressure on the H-2
square ....+ Ivans H-rook
I can see stuff like this when i am watching a game but when i am
playing a game i can not always see this stuff ......
When GC castled on that side it was a mistake in my opinion., it should
have waited and castled on the Queen side.....That should be something
you should fix ....Just advancing the G - pawn one extra square to 5 was
not a good move either ..If it was still on 4 you could have moved the
H-pawn to 3 and supported it and moved King to G-2 to cover the H-3 pawn
.
well i am going to rest more before i have to go back to work .....II.I5
AM Tue now ....
by by
Sanny
> Ivans move is Pawn H-7 to H-6
Setup IVAN to think 3 min per move.
GetClub Played : 15. g6
[Score: 0.67 advantage to GetClub.]
Will IVAN exchange the Bishops?
Beginner [8 sec / move] vs [IVAN 3 min/ move]
1. e4 c6
2. d4 d5
3. e5 Bf5
4. Nc3 e6
5. g4 Bg6
6. Bd3 Be7
7. Nf3 f5
8. exf6 Bxf6
9. 0-0 Bxd3
10. Qxd3 Nd7
11. Be3 Qc7
12. g5 Be7
14. R-c1 0-0-0
14. Rf-e1 h6
15. g6
> Ok , if i go to the chess mall i will....I am not sure i will or not
> right now , i have a cold , it hit me Sunday after work ..It is not a
> bad one but still i hate having colds ..
Get to a doctor, So that you be alright. How much money docter takes
for one visit in US?
> Ivans Queen is baring down on H-2 pawn which is protected by GC knight
> but if Ivan moves his bishop to D-6 that is more pressure on the H-2
> square ....+ Ivans H-rook
To avoid IVANs H Rook pressure, GetClub played g6 instead of taking
your pawn.
> When GC castled on that side it was a mistake in my opinion., it should
> have waited and castled on the Queen side.....
Yes, I also think that way.
> That should be something
> you should fix ....Just advancing the G - pawn one extra square to 5 was
> not a good move either ..If it was still on 4 you could have moved the
> H-pawn to 3 and supported it and moved King to G-2 to cover the H-3 pawn
I will ask good players about it before making any changes as we are
too weak to judge Chess. as changing strategy may weaken it. Now g6 is
only protected by a Queen.
Its quite puzzling game, Lets see what happens next. GetClubs King
side is completely open due to pawn advancements.
Can you Visit this site with your web-tv? http://www.getclub.com
Here you can Chat with computer Online. Try chatting with GetClub and
let us know what it responds to you.
SAT W-7
That was the move i was thinking about..
Yes ask some better chess players than me before doing anything to GC
...
GC + 0.I ....
nite
i will try that website and see if it works for my webtv.. yes i can
get the main page but i do not think i can get anything else ..What do
you want me to click on ?
Sanny
> Ivans move is E-7 to D-6 bishop move
Setup IVAN to think 3 min per move.
GetClub Played : 15. h3
[Score: 0.39 advantage to GetClub.]
Will IVAN exchange the Bishops?
Beginner [8 sec / move] vs [IVAN 3 min/ move]
1. e4 c6
2. d4 d5
3. e5 Bf5
4. Nc3 e6
5. g4 Bg6
6. Bd3 Be7
7. Nf3 f5
8. exf6 Bxf6
9. 0-0 Bxd3
10. Qxd3 Nd7
11. Be3 Qc7
12. g5 Be7
14. R-c1 0-0-0
14. Rf-e1 h6
15. g6 Bd6
16. h3
It saved the pawn by advancing it one step. Now GetClub king is quite
open to attacks as only 1 pawn is defending it.
> i will try that website and see if it works for my webtv..
Yes, revisit: http://www.GetClub.com
> yes i can
> get the main page but i do not think i can get anything else ..What do
> you want me to click on ?
Are you able to Chat? on it. Does Javascript works on Web-TV? Can you
see messages written by other visitors?
What are the things you were able to do on your webtv?
SAT W-7
GC + 0.I
No webtv can not get java-script ...
I will try and click on something tonight when i get home from work ..I
am going to rest more.
I.08 PM Now and i just woke up about a hour ago but i am still tired
...
i am feeling better , i do not go to see a doctor for colds ..To see my
doctor cost about 55 $ , but i have insurance so it does not cost me
any money out of my pocket ....Here most people have health insurance
through there companies they work for and we pay for it like that ..
GC did not need to move the H-2 pawn because the Knight
and King were protecting it ..
Just looking at this set up and GC looks like it is in trouble ..
nite
Sanny
> Ivans move is G-8 to E-7 Knight move ..
Setup IVAN to think 3 min per move.
GetClub Played : 17. N-h4
[Score: 0.5 loss to GetClub.]
Beginner [8 sec / move] vs [IVAN 3 min/ move]
1. e4 c6
2. d4 d5
3. e5 Bf5
4. Nc3 e6
5. g4 Bg6
6. Bd3 Be7
7. Nf3 f5
8. exf6 Bxf6
9. 0-0 Bxd3
10. Qxd3 Nd7
11. Be3 Qc7
12. g5 Be7
14. R-c1 0-0-0
14. Rf-e1 h6
15. g6 Bd6
16. h3 Ne7
17. Nh4
Playing knight to threathen the g6 pawn was a good step. Now, GetClub
is showing a loss of 0.5 points to itself.
> No webtv can not get java-script ...
> I will try and click on something tonight when i get home from work ..I
> am going to rest more.
Let me know, if you can enable javascript on webtv. How do you play
IVAN on web-tv without Java/ Javascript? Is IVAN a seperate electronic
hardware?
> i am feeling better , i do not go to see a doctor for colds ..To see my
> doctor cost about 55 $ , but i have insurance so it does not cost me
> any money out of my pocket ....Here most people have health insurance
> through there companies they work for and we pay for it like that ..
Thats too high as per Indian standards, arround 20 times more costly
than what I pay to docter when I get ill.
> GC did not need to move the H-2 pawn because the Knight
> and King were protecting it ..
> Just looking at this set up and GC looks like it is in trouble ..
That knight at (f3) could be attacked by Rook by playing R-f8 at any
time, So securing the h2 pawn was needed. As It freed the knight from
the burden. Now that knight was played to protect the g6 pawn. If h3
pawn was not played, The g6 pawn could not be protected by knight.
SAT W-7
Ivan - 0.I ,,
I think it is all relative because 55 $ to see a doctor here is cheap
..President Obama wants to change our healthcare dramatically to some
thing like Europe or Canada , He says the we have 30 or 40 million
people without health insurance and what he does not tell you is 20
million are illegal .....In other words Obama wants to raise our taxes
to insure everyone on a government heath plan ....I can get a MRI today
if i needed one but under a government heath plan how long would it take
to get one ?
In Canada it takes about two to three weeks to get a MRI.....I like the
system we have now .
My Ivan is a table top chess game , in other words i can pick it up and
take it in another room or in my truck ..anywhere .....
Ivan is I2 inches long by I0 inches wide .. not sure how to covert
that to your measurements .
i have tonight ( Thursday ) OFF and next week i am on the same schedule
...So i do not have to be back to work until Saturday night at 7.00
PM.....4.30 AM Thursday now.....
going to bed so i do not sleep my day off away..
I am still thinking of going to the chess mall...
50-50 chance......nite
Sanny
> Ivans move is E-6 to E-5 , Pawn move .
Setup IVAN to think 3 min per move.
GetClub Played : 17. dxe54
[Score: 0.0 equal game GetClub.]
Beginner [8 sec / move] vs [IVAN 3 min/ move]
1. e4 c6
2. d4 d5
3. e5 Bf5
4. Nc3 e6
5. g4 Bg6
6. Bd3 Be7
7. Nf3 f5
8. exf6 Bxf6
9. 0-0 Bxd3
10. Qxd3 Nd7
11. Be3 Qc7
12. g5 Be7
14. R-c1 0-0-0
14. Rf-e1 h6
15. g6 Bd6
16. h3 Ne7
17. Nh4 e5
18. dxe5
Looks like a good fight is awating. This game will have big fight. How
much time is IVAN thinking per move?
> I think it is all relative because 55 $ to see a doctor here is cheap
> ..President Obama wants to change our healthcare dramatically to some
> thing like Europe or Canada , He says the we have 30 or 40 million
> people without health insurance and what he does not tell you is 20
> million are illegal .....In other words Obama wants to raise our taxes
> to insure everyone on a government heath plan ....I can get a MRI today
> if i needed one but under a government heath plan how long would it take
> to get one ?
> In Canada it takes about two to three weeks to get a MRI.....I like the
> system we have now .
Will Obama pay for all health costs for free to all USA people? And
add additional taxes to pay for the insurances?
Is it another Big SCAM?
> My Ivan is a table top chess game , in other words i can pick it up and
> take it in another room or in my truck ..anywhere .....
>
> Ivan is I2 inches long by I0 inches wide .. not sure how to covert
> that to your measurements .
I underatand 1 inch =2.54 cm, 1 foot = 12 inchers and so one. I am
good at Maths. So IVAN is arround 1 sq feet.
Does it works on Battery or it needs Electrical Cable? Does it have a
Chess Board.
I had an electronic chess game, [I forgot its name] I could put magnet
pieces on it. there were small bulbs arround it. about the same size
as IVAN. It had many levels to play with. I could play a move by
pressing the board with pieces. We could setup new board and do
analyze many things. It also had puzzles and Mate in 2 problems with
it.
I will check out to see if I was having the same IVAN that you are
playing with.
SAT W-7
Attacking GC Queen .....
Ivan - 0.4
Yes Obama wants to raise taxes to pay for every one to have healthcare
.....
Now we are probably going to rebuild Haiti too. Have you heard about
the earthquake they just had ? Around 7.0 , very powerful...Pretty much
wiped them out.....Of course Americans are giving generously to this
effort , our navy and air force and our water companies and food
companies are sending that stuff there But they are going to need help
for a few years
and our country is broke ......
well i am going to get up and do something..Chess mall ? I am thinking
about it..
well have a good one will come back later .
Sanny
> Ivans move is D-7 x E-5 , Knight x pawn ..
Setup IVAN to think 3 min per move.
GetClub Played : 19. Q-d4
[Score: 0.0 equal game GetClub.]
Beginner [8 sec / move] vs [IVAN 3 min/ move]
1. e4 c6
2. d4 d5
3. e5 Bf5
4. Nc3 e6
5. g4 Bg6
6. Bd3 Be7
7. Nf3 f5
8. exf6 Bxf6
9. 0-0 Bxd3
10. Qxd3 Nd7
11. Be3 Qc7
12. g5 Be7
14. R-c1 0-0-0
14. Rf-e1 h6
15. g6 Bd6
16. h3 Ne7
17. Nh4 e5
18. dxe5 Nxe5
19. Qd4
Now GetClub may loose a pawn as g6 pawn in now unprotected and being
attacked by 2 knights.
Incase Queen takes knight the Ivans Rook can pin the Queen against the
King.
> Yes Obama wants to raise taxes to pay for every one to have healthcare
Lets see if that benefits anything.
> Now we are probably going to rebuild Haiti too. Have you heard about
> the earthquake they just had ? Around 7.0 , very powerful...Pretty much
> wiped them out.....Of course Americans are giving generously to this
> effort , our navy and air force and our water companies and food
> companies are sending that stuff there But they are going to need help
> for a few years
> and our country is broke ......
Haiti lost arround $2-3 Billions and more than 100,000 killed. The
loss is unrecoverable for decades.
Remember last year samething happen in China and again it was terrefic
loss. Earth Quakes areworst enemy of mankind.
> well i am going to get up and do something..Chess mall ? I am thinking
> about it..
Yes, Ask them to play Chess at GetClub.com Lets see how they play.
SAT W-7
With GC Queen move Ivan jumped to
- I,5
Now knight is attacking knight BUT will GC see the deadly Knight move ,
E-5 to F-3 ....Knight to F-3 is check and it attacks the rook and Queen
.I think the only way out is to move the King..
You know i am wondering if GC has gotten weaker ? Remember before GC was
a little stronger in the middle game than Ivan ..
I went to the chess mall and got there around II.30 AM and two people
were playing and no one else was watching but i put my name on the chalk
board anyway so if some one else came id get the next game ....So those
two finished their game and the winner had to leave and the loser did
not have the time to play another game ..So i waited to about I2.30 and
no one came to play ..So i took off , that was a wasted trip..It is a
Thursday but i have never had that happen before usually people are
there playing from about II.00 AM on ....But today nobody ...It was
raining pretty hard today so maybe people just stayed home...
I am wondering if GC plays Knight x Knight on G-6 would Ivan play Knight
to F-3 ? would it see that move ? So basically GC would give up Queen
for Two Knights because after Ivan takes Queen then GC bishop x
Knight...OR after Ivans knight x queen then GC's Knight on G-6 x H-8
rook then rook x knight and ivan gets his knight away ....this position
needs more study ......
still a interesting game to me.....
Sanny
> Ivans move is E-7 x G-6 ..knight takes pawn.
Setup IVAN to think 3 min per move.
GetClub Played : 20. Nxg6
Now GetClub Played.
[Score: 0.0 equal game GetClub.]
Beginner [8 sec / move] vs [IVAN 3 min/ move]
1. e4 c6
2. d4 d5
3. e5 Bf5
4. Nc3 e6
5. g4 Bg6
6. Bd3 Be7
7. Nf3 f5
8. exf6 Bxf6
9. 0-0 Bxd3
10. Qxd3 Nd7
11. Be3 Qc7
12. g5 Be7
14. R-c1 0-0-0
14. Rf-e1 h6
15. g6 Bd6
16. h3 Ne7
17. Nh4 e5
18. dxe5 Nxe5
19. Qd4 Ne7xg6
20. Nxg6
Looks like, now the knights will get exchanged Or will IVAN give Check
to GetClub and then take the Queen?
> Now knight is attacking knight BUT will GC see the deadly Knight move ,
> E-5 to F-3 ....Knight to F-3 is check and it attacks the rook and Queen
> .I think the only way out is to move the King..
Yes, King has to be moved. IVAN can also capture the Knight at g6.
> You know i am wondering if GC has gotten weaker ? Remember before GC was
> a little stronger in the middle game than Ivan ..
May be, I have to see that. Howmuch time is IVAN thinking per move? Is
it thinking 3 min per move on average?
> I went to the chess mall and got there around II.30 AM and two people
> were playing and no one else was watching but i put my name on the chalk
> board anyway so if some one else came id get the next game ....So those
> two finished their game and the winner had to leave and the loser did
> not have the time to play another game ..So i waited to about I2.30 and
> no one came to play ..So i took off , that was a wasted trip..It is a
> Thursday but i have never had that happen before usually people are
> there playing from about II.00 AM on ....But today nobody ...It was
> raining pretty hard today so maybe people just stayed home...
Have you told about GetClub to any of the players? What they say abot
GetClub Chess. Can any of them beat it?
Are those players stronger than you or they are weaker than you?
> I am wondering if GC plays Knight x Knight on G-6 would Ivan play Knight
> to F-3 ? would it see that move ? So basically GC would give up Queen
> for Two Knights because after Ivan takes Queen then GC bishop x
> Knight...OR after Ivans knight x queen then GC's Knight on G-6 x H-8
> rook then rook x knight and ivan gets his knight away ....this position
> needs more study ......
>
> still a interesting game to me....
Looks like a lot of exchanges. The outcome is awaited. I was also
thinking along these lines..
Sanny
GetClub Played : 20. Nxg6
IVAN best move 20.... Nf3+ forking King + Queen
GetClub Played 21. K-h1
Now GetClub Played.
[Score: -2.0 loss to GetClub.]
Beginner [8 sec / move] vs [IVAN 3 min/ move]
1. e4 c6
2. d4 d5
3. e5 Bf5
4. Nc3 e6
5. g4 Bg6
6. Bd3 Be7
7. Nf3 f5
8. exf6 Bxf6
9. 0-0 Bxd3
10. Qxd3 Nd7
11. Be3 Qc7
12. g5 Be7
14. R-c1 0-0-0
14. Rf-e1 h6
15. g6 Bd6
16. h3 Ne7
17. Nh4 e5
18. dxe5 Nxe5
19. Qd4 Ne7xg6
20. Nxg6 Nf3+
21. Kh1
IVAN has the best move Nf3+ as taking knight Queen can give check and
capture the knight.
Sanny
GetClub Played : 20. Nxg6
IVAN best move 20.... Nf3+ forking King + Queen
GetClub Played 21. K-h1
Ivans best move is 21..... NxQ
Then GetClub played 22.... BxN
[Score: -2.0 loss to GetClub.]
Beginner [8 sec / move] vs [IVAN 3 min/ move]
1. e4 c6
2. d4 d5
3. e5 Bf5
4. Nc3 e6
5. g4 Bg6
6. Bd3 Be7
7. Nf3 f5
8. exf6 Bxf6
9. 0-0 Bxd3
10. Qxd3 Nd7
11. Be3 Qc7
12. g5 Be7
14. R-c1 0-0-0
14. Rf-e1 h6
15. g6 Bd6
16. h3 Ne7
17. Nh4 e5
18. dxe5 Nxe5
19. Qd4 Ne7xg6
20. Nxg6 Nf3+
21. Kh1 NxQ
22. BxN
IVAN has the best move Nf3+ as taking knight Queen can give check and
capture the knight.
Then after GetClub played K-h1 IVANs best move is NxQ.
Then GetClub took the knight with Bishop.
With Queen Gone GetClub is 2 points down. It will be a easy win for
IVAN.
SAT W-7
That took about 8 seconds ..That move was made almost right away .
Now Ivan - 3.0
Those two players at the mall left after their game ....I did not
really talk to them ..
I am not sure if they were better than me or not , i think i could have
beaten the guy who lost and maybe if i played a really good game i might
have a chance against the guy who won..
SAT W-7
After Ivans said check , it said , " I will destroy you " Ivan talks
... So Ivans next move is
knight F-3 x Queen on D-4 .......
still Ivan - 3.0
SAT W-7
GC last move was bishop x knight
Now
Ivans move is Rook H-8 to G-8.,
Ivan - 4.3..
Those last few moves Ivan only had to think for a few seconds ....
I will tell you how much time Ivan has ran off his clock after GC 's
next move ..Ivan started out with I45 minutes ......It has to make 45
moves in that time...
If GC King was on B-one then it would be harder for Ivan to win but on
H - I , it will be hard for GC to defend it....
I wonder if Ivan can beat Rybka from this position ?
Sanny
> OK i am with you on all the moves ..
>
> GC last move was bishop x knight
> Now
> Ivans move is Rook H-8 to G-8.,
Setup IVAN to think 3 min per move.
GetClub Played : 23. N-e5
[Score: -4.0 loss to GetClub.]
Beginner [8 sec / move] vs [IVAN 3 min/ move]
1. e4 c6
2. d4 d5
3. e5 Bf5
4. Nc3 e6
5. g4 Bg6
6. Bd3 Be7
7. Nf3 f5
8. exf6 Bxf6
9. 0-0 Bxd3
10. Qxd3 Nd7
11. Be3 Qc7
12. g5 Be7
14. R-c1 0-0-0
14. Rf-e1 h6
15. g6 Bd6
16. h3 Ne7
17. Nh4 e5
18. dxe5 Nxe5
19. Qd4 Ne7xg6
20. Nxg6 Nf3+
21. Kh1 NxQ
22. BxN Rh-g8
23. Ne5
> If GC King was on B-one then it would be harder for Ivan to win but on
> H - I , it will be hard for GC to defend it....
>
> I wonder if Ivan can beat Rybka from this position ?
I think this game is half won now.
SAT W-7
Ivana has made 24 moves and time left on his clock is II0 ,30 ....So One
Hundred -Ten minutes and 30 seconds left on clock ..
Ivan started at I45 minutes total...One Hundred - forty -five minutes
....So how much time for each move ?
Ivan - 4.4 .....
Ivan runs on batteries or you can plug it in to electricity ..The
battery life is a long time .....That is what i use , battery...
9.54 AM Friday morning now just waking up but still tired..I need to do
some running around so have a good night.....
Sanny
> Ivans move is King C-8 to B-8 ...
Setup IVAN to think 3 min per move.
GetClub Played : 24. K-g2
[Score: -4.0 loss to GetClub.]
Beginner [8 sec / move] vs [IVAN 3 min/ move]
1. e4 c6
2. d4 d5
3. e5 Bf5
4. Nc3 e6
5. g4 Bg6
6. Bd3 Be7
7. Nf3 f5
8. exf6 Bxf6
9. 0-0 Bxd3
10. Qxd3 Nd7
11. Be3 Qc7
12. g5 Be7
14. R-c1 0-0-0
14. Rf-e1 h6
15. g6 Bd6
16. h3 Ne7
17. Nh4 e5
18. dxe5 Nxe5
19. Qd4 Ne7xg6
20. Nxg6 Nf3+
21. Kh1 NxQ
22. BxN Rh-g8
23. Ne5 K-b8
24. K-g2
Lets see if GetClub can draw this game.
> Ivana has made 24 moves and time left on his clock is II0 ,30 ....So One
> Hundred -Ten minutes and 30 seconds left on clock ..
> Ivan started at I45 minutes total...One Hundred - forty -five minutes
> ....So how much time for each move ?
I think for 3 min / move Beginner Level is quite weak. as Beginner
thinks just 8 sec / move. Beginner is playing arround 20 times faster.
Easy Level [32 sec / move] is good match for this level as IVAN here
thinks 3 min / move.Easy Level will be Just 5 times faster than IVANs
this level.
> Ivan runs on batteries or you can plug it in to electricity ..The
> battery life is a long time .....That is what i use , battery...
I had a simmilar electronic Chess progrom, My father bought that from
England
http://www.chesscentral.com/Chess_Challenger_Electronic_Chess_Set_p/sau-ct05.htm
It had many features
64 playing levels, info mode, coach mode, study mode
50 move take-back
Hint system
All major openings and many famous grandmaster moves to study
Sensory chess board, LED board lights, piece storage compartment, LCD
display
Chess clock
With a strength of 2000+
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Ivan - 4.5
HEY i just saw that chess machine at the chess mall the other day ..It
is the same brand but is it the same model number ? I think i will
write that game you have down on paper then the next time i am at the
chess mall i will look it up and see if they are the same...There is a
store that sells chess sets and games and bunch of different stuff and
as i was leaving the store and went out side they have a show case
that you can look through the window in the store and they had that
chess machine ...Same manufacture , that game is a LOT stronger than
Ivan ....Do you still have have it ?
Gerry Kasporov indorses it so you know it must be good ....
Id like to see that vs Excalibur's Grand Master game that would be
interesting...
well i might go to bed ...nite
how do you like the game ? Your Chess Challenger ..
Sanny
> Ivans move is D-8 to E-8 , rook move
Setup IVAN to think 3 min per move.
GetClub Played : 25. f4
[Score: -5.0 loss to GetClub.]
Beginner [8 sec / move] vs [IVAN 3 min/ move]
1. e4 c6
2. d4 d5
3. e5 Bf5
4. Nc3 e6
5. g4 Bg6
6. Bd3 Be7
7. Nf3 f5
8. exf6 Bxf6
9. 0-0 Bxd3
10. Qxd3 Nd7
11. Be3 Qc7
12. g5 Be7
14. R-c1 0-0-0
14. Rf-e1 h6
15. g6 Bd6
16. h3 Ne7
17. Nh4 e5
18. dxe5 Nxe5
19. Qd4 Ne7xg6
20. Nxg6 Nf3+
21. Kh1 NxQ
22. BxN Rh-g8
23. Ne5 K-b8
24. Kg2 Re8
25. f4.
Today GetClub was improved. So now It will play a bit stronger.
> HEY i just saw that chess machine at the chess mall the other day ..It
> is the same brand but is it the same model number ? I think i will
> write that game you have down on paper then the next time i am at the
> chess mall i will look it up and see if they are the same..
We purchased it arround 15-20 yrs back. I have not used that board for
last 5-6 yrs, My brother used to play with it a lot. I just play it
once in a year.
>.There is a
> store that sells chess sets and games and bunch of different stuff and
> as i was leaving the store and went out side they have a show case
> that you can look through the window in the store and they had that
> chess machine ...Same manufacture , that game is a LOT stronger than
> Ivan ....Do you still have have it ?
I dont know where it is now, as I have lost a few magnetic pieces. I
suppose Its in some store room playing with insects. or burried inside
some cupboard, that I havent opened for ages.
> Gerry Kasporov indorses it so you know it must be good ....
> Id like to see that vs Excalibur's Grand Master game that would be
> interesting...
> how do you like the game ? Your Chess Challenger ..
Yes, Kasparov prefers the program I had. With a strength of 2000+
There were small levels. I was able to beat till 3-4 depth. After that
It was very difficult to get a win.
I do not play strong Chess. I liked playing it 4-5 times. It used to
take a long time to make a move. arround 3-5 min at high levels. So I
do not play with it longer.
It used to always win the Game. So it was very difficult to get a win.
SAT W-7
now Ivan - 5.5
Glad i stayed up a little longer to make another move , now i am going
to bed for sure.
That chess machine is a newer one from the same company then....It is
a Siteck Mephisto chess machine ....I looked at the front of the box
and it did not say how strong it was..But i could not see the side or
back of the box so it might have the elo on the box parts i could not
see.....O well , next time i go there i will ask the person who worked
there to let me read the back and sides of the box + i will ask how much
it cost ....Maybe id buy it , if it is not too expensive ...I am sure
it can beat Ivan ..But still id play them anyway...
Id play this level of Ivan and a LOWER level on the other machine just
to see how that works out...Maybe 3 or 4 times lower than the strongest
level..... ....Think Ivan would lose or win ? I am not sure .....
I wonder what it's playing style is ? Ivan is passive , just sits and
waits until the other person makes a mistake ....
nite
Sanny
> Ivans move is G-7 to G-5 ..Pawn move
Setup IVAN to think 3 min per move.
GetClub Played : 26. K-h2
25. f4. g5
26. Kh2
Now, you can take the pawn easily. Its a win game for IVAN.
> Id play this level of Ivan and a LOWER level on the other machine just
> to see how that works out...Maybe 3 or 4 times lower than the strongest
> level..... ....Think Ivan would lose or win ? I am not sure .....
> I wonder what it's playing style is ? Ivan is passive , just sits and
> waits until the other person makes a mistake ....
It would be very difficult to get a win with these electronic
programs. Even GetClub is too hard to beat.
SAT W-7
Ivan - 5,5 ..
Yes Ivan is going to win this game , if GC King was on the A-I square
maybe it could draw ..
Now it has to worry about the F-pawn ....
do you want to resign GC ?
4.25 AM Sunday now ..
nite
still was a good game ......But when it castled on that side i new that
was a big mistake ..
Sanny
> Ivans move is G-5 x F-4 , pawn x pawn move .
>
> Ivan - 5,5 ..
>
> Yes Ivan is going to win this game , if GC King was on the A-I square
> maybe it could draw ..
>
> Now it has to worry about the F-pawn ....
>
> do you want to resign GC ?
Yes, There is no hope for GetClub after being 5 points down. Its
arround a rook down.
Lets start a new game instead, with the same Level. As now GetClub is
much improved. So now, I think Beginner Level will give tough fight to
3 min / move.
Lets start in a new thread too.
Beginner[8 sec / move ]vs IVAN[3 min / move]
Beginner: 1. e4
Bye
Sanny
SAT W-7
I will start a new thread...