Lasker as philospher
Audun P. Dersen
anyone know any titles, or of what subject he wrote?
Audun Pedersen
Tryf
You may find the following page useful:-
http://www.insight.demon.co.uk/Technical_Articles/worldchamps/lasker/lasker.
htm
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His philosophical writing entitled "Struggle" encapsulated Lasker's model of
life, but unfortunately it was close to being unreadable, and having few
practical implications, and was thus ignored by the majority of people, and
criticised by professional philosophers because it lacked a logical system.
His literary contributions in the 3 areas of mathematics, philosophy and
chess can be summarised as follows....
Chess....
Mathematics.....
Philosophy: He produced many philosophical writings including Struggle,
Understanding of the World, and The Philosophy of the Unattainable. He often
drew analogies from chess, but philosophers noted that he constructed no
logical system. He however, saw this problem himself. Within his book
Struggle he suggested that more experienced philosophers should develop the
ideas contained in it.
His last book was The Community of the Future (1940)
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Best wishes,
Tryf
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Roman M. Parparov
> I have read that Emanuel Lasker wrote several philosophy books. Does
> anyone know any titles, or of what subject he wrote?
> Audun Pedersen
Kampf, 1907
Das Bergeifen der Welt, 1913
Die Philosophe des Undvollendbar, 1918
Von Menschen die Deschichte, 1925 - a play.
Breitspiele der Volker, 1928
Das Weltbild der Spieler, unpublished
The Community of the Future, New York, 1940.
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Charles Milton Ling
> Audun P. Dersen <aud...@nospamstud.ntnu.no> wrote:
> > I have read that Emanuel Lasker wrote several philosophy books. Does
> > anyone know any titles, or of what subject he wrote?
>
> > Audun Pedersen
>
> Kampf, 1907
> Das Begreifen der Welt, 1913
> Die Philosophie des Unvollendbar, 1918
> Von Menschen die Geschichte, 1925 - a play.
> Breitspiele der Völker, 1928
> Das Weltbild der Spieler, unpublished
> The Community of the Future, New York, 1940.
> --
> Roman M. Parparov - NASA EOSDIS project node at TAU technical manager.
> Email: ro...@empire.tau.ac.il http://www.komkon.org/~romm
> Phone/Fax: +972-(0)3-6405205 (work), +972-(0)54-629-884 (home)
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> The economy depends about as much on economists as the weather does on
> weather forecasters.
> -- Jean-Paul Kauffmann
Just a couple of spelling corrections - not to be pedantic, but to help
you look for the books.
Charley
Charles Milton Ling
> "Roman M. Parparov" wrote:
>
> > Audun P. Dersen <aud...@nospamstud.ntnu.no> wrote:
> > > I have read that Emanuel Lasker wrote several philosophy books. Does
> > > anyone know any titles, or of what subject he wrote?
> >
> > > Audun Pedersen
> >
> > Kampf, 1907
> > Das Begreifen der Welt, 1913
> > Die Philosophie des Unvollendbar, 1918
> > Vom Menschen die Geschichte, 1925 - a play.
> > Breitspiele der Völker, 1928
> > Das Weltbild der Spieler, unpublished
> > The Community of the Future, New York, 1940.
> > --
> > Roman M. Parparov - NASA EOSDIS project node at TAU technical manager.
> > Email: ro...@empire.tau.ac.il http://www.komkon.org/~romm
> > Phone/Fax: +972-(0)3-6405205 (work), +972-(0)54-629-884 (home)
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > The economy depends about as much on economists as the weather does on
> > weather forecasters.
> > -- Jean-Paul Kauffmann
>
> Just a couple of spelling corrections - not to be pedantic, but to help
> you look for the books.
>
> Charley
Drat. Missed one. Should be correct now.
C.
Mike S.
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> (...)
> > >
> > > Kampf, 1907
> > > Das Begreifen der Welt, 1913
> > > Die Philosophie des Unvollendbar, 1918
> > > Vom Menschen die Geschichte, 1925 - a play.
> > > Das Weltbild der Spieler, unpublished
> > > The Community of the Future, New York, 1940.
> >
help
> > you look for the books.
Brettspiele (to be pedantic). I wonder if one of this books is
available at all - but I haven't searched.
Regards,
M.Scheidl
Charles Milton Ling
Thanks for the correction of the correction of my correction. I did a
search on Bibliofind and was not able to find any of the titles above, but
did find "Das verständige Kartenspiel" at prices ranging from NFL 65 to
DEM 100.
Charley
Audun Pedersen
Thanks for the help! I have done several searches on the net. I found 'Das
Begreifen der Welt' on www.bibsys.no. As i have an interest of both chess and
philosophy I would be very interest in getting any of these books.
Audun Pedersen
Akorps
I read this one (in English translation),
and what struck me was how consistent
it was with the pre-WW1 military
philosophy (of pushing things to extremes)
that led to the downfall of the European
empires.
(you can probably trace this absolutist
concept of war back to Napoleon via
Clausewitz).
(basically the flaw is that if both sides
push things to extremes they destroy
each other. The hidden premise seems
to have been that it is a fight to the death
between 2 powers, hence it is necessary
to push war to the absolute limit. This may
be true over the chessboard, but in real
war it tends to end with the ruin of both
contending parties, and a 3rd party not
involved in the conflict ends up the winner).
PJDBAD
>push things to extremes they destroy
>each other. The hidden premise seems
>to have been that it is a fight to the death
>between 2 powers, hence it is necessary
>to push war to the absolute limit. This may
>be true over the chessboard, but in real
>war it tends to end with the ruin of both
>contending parties, and a 3rd party not
>involved in the conflict ends up the winner).
>
armed camp waiting to explode. And the seeds of WWII were found in the
aftermath of WWI. The Atomic bomb and the international climate after WWII
made things different. For the first time war was unwinable and the decline of
nationalism was also a factor. No conclusion just a general observation.
Todd Durham
Can't agree with the decline of nationalism statement. Look what's
happened in Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union since the Iron
Curtain rusted through. Nationalism was stomped down by some very fierce
ideaologies, but now that they're gone....
Also, it's not so much that large scale war between Great Powers is
unwinnable as much as it is now impossible to be certain that the nation
on the defensive won't just drop the Big One. The GREATLY heightened
uncertainty is what has made everyone either sit on their thumbs or war
through proxies.
Todd
PJDBAD
>
I think colonialism might be the idea I was looking for here.
Todd Durham
PJDBAD wrote:
>
> >Can't agree with the decline of nationalism statement. Look what's
> >
>
> I think colonialism might be the idea I was looking for here.
Oh yeah, Colonialism got its pasty ass kicked in the last 60 years.
Todd
burch...@gmail.com
> I have read that Emanuel Lasker wrote several philosophy books. Does
> anyone know any titles, or of what subject he wrote?
>
> Audun Pedersen
I'd like to see the philosophers that criticized Lasker for not having a logical grounding for Game Theory, for if such a thing could even exist, (the science of all struggle that is) it simply wasn't possible to lay the framework for much usage then! It was in its infancy, only possible to be scientific after many, many, many observations given the nature of the social sciences!
As for what is possible nowadays I'll only say that game theory was influenced by Lasker, for he was the first to see the controversial! In many ways, I feel lucky Lasker existed, for I recognize the scientific tools NO one person could've discovered, but only one stood at its inception as seeing the coming possibilities!
I've heard Lasker has been experiencing a resurgence! For anyone in Germany, is that true?!
samsloan
> I have read that Emanuel Lasker wrote several philosophy books. Does
> anyone know any titles, or of what subject he wrote?
>
> Audun Pedersen
http://www.amazon.com/dp/4871874656
Sam Sloan