Bob Dylan Vs. Bobby Fischer
tm...@webtv.net
to play a game? And how long could a recreational 1700-1800 player last
against a great grandmaster and champion on the average? Ten moves if
he had the sense to resign? Could the war be prolonged? Do any of you
know of any games where a lower rated player has pushed a much higher
rated player to the brink? Thanks.
Anders Thulin
> And how long could a recreational 1700-1800 player last
> against a great grandmaster and champion on the average?
That depends mostly on the setting: serious game or exhibition game?
Exhibition games are usually intended to be fun, so some GM's have a more
relaxed attitutde towards them.
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Telia Prosoft AB, Box 85, S-201 20 Malmö, Sweden
cracker hater
(Paul Morphy, PMG, and KingsKnight), so
you wuld be better off posting in less
hostile waters.....
Kevin Gollnick
loneso...@webtv.net
(or any grandmaster for that matter) were able to concentrate and
intended to end the game as quickly as possible. How long could a
1700-1800 player (like Dylan) last before the game was hopelessly lost?
The smartass answer might be the first move, but realistically, how long
on average before the inferior player's game deteriorated facing such
overwhelming strength?
Trey Holliday
wrote:
I guess that depends on the 1700-1800 player's ability to stay alive
during the opening. What makes most GM's so strong is their resolve
in developing and executing a plan. I would much rather sneak my way
into an opening I was familiar with, so I could at least say that I
survived 20 moves against Kasparov.
Jim
Is this a great country or what? The Internet used to be only for
people who were smart enough to unpack and plug in a computer. Now even
illiterate trailer trash can participate.
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Before you buy.
Jim
tm...@webtv.net wrote:
> Does anyone here know if it is true that Bob Dylan paid Bobby
Fischer
> to play a game?
This is true. There is a reference to it in a collection of articles
about chess, but I haven't been able to find it--the question came up a
few weeks ago.
>And how long could a recreational 1700-1800 player last
> against a great grandmaster and champion on the average?
Dylan may have been stronger than 1800. He keeps a tight lid on his
personal life but he was known to be a keen chessplayer back in the
70s. There's a promotional photo of him from that period, sitting at a
chessboard.
As to how long an 1800 player could last, probably 30 moves or more.
The best way to play is always to develop your stuff and form a plan.
Obviously, if the lower-rated player makes a serious blunder, the GM
will take advantage of it. Over 30 moves, the GM will gain enough
positional and material superiority (all it takes is a pawn and a safe
king) to ensure a win. It's always possible for a lower-rated player to
beat a GM. It sometimes happens in simul exhibitions. Over a series of
games, however, you know the GM is going to rule.
dancing...@my-deja.com
whit...@webtv.net (cracker hater) wrote:
> There are 3 MAJOR DILDOS on this group
> (Paul Morphy, PMG, and KingsKnight), so
> you wuld be better off posting in less
> hostile waters.....
>
>
Be gone you piss ant. Mr. D admires those 3 posters. But he won't even
allow webtv idiots into hell, you'll be going somewhere far more
unpleasant. You'll be locked in a Motel 6 room for eternity.
HAHAHAHahahahahahahhhhhhhhhh!!!!
D
Chesspride
>1700-1800 player (like Dylan) last before the game was hopelessly lost?
>The smartass answer might be the first move, but realistically, how long
>on average before the inferior
It has been said that often the stronger player *usually* has a real advantage
by move 13-16 or so (point of transition from opening to middlegame) based on
greater experience.
Even so...converting that edge may take many, many moves.
Eric C. Johnson
Todd Durham
cracker hater wrote:
>
> There are 3 MAJOR DILDOS on this group
> (Paul Morphy, PMG, and KingsKnight), so
> you wuld be better off posting in less
> hostile waters.....
Who the heck is KingsKnight?
Todd
PMG
I was wondering that too. I don't like sharing the distinguishing title
MAJOR DILDOS with a virtual unknown. That webtv user was rather
clueless if that's the best list he can come up with.
Pete MAJOR DILDOS
--
Well, I'll soon find out, won't I? --Dr. Bombay
Martin Sims
still shows as a 0 on the score card. I'm sure Kasparov would not be too
upset if he failed to despatch me within 20 moves.
<tm...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Does anyone here know if it is true that Bob Dylan paid Bobby Fischer
Jim
Todd Durham <tdu...@mdo.net> wrote:
>
>
> cracker hater wrote:
> >
> > There are 3 MAJOR DILDOS on this group
> > (Paul Morphy, PMG, and KingsKnight), so
> > you wuld be better off posting in less
> > hostile waters.....
>
> Who the heck is KingsKnight?
This same webtver sometimes slithers over to rgcp-b-e. KingsKnight
and "Paul Morphy" have zorched him up a few times there. I imagine
webtv makes it difficult to tell one group from another. Considering
the display device used, probably hard to discern reality as well. I
don't know what the story is with PMG. He seems pretty mellow to me.
Then again, webtvers aren't exactly a force on the net. Or in real
life, most likely.
Jeroen ;-}
> life, most likely.
But they do know how to use the remote with one hand and a beer with another
hand while belching out loud.
--
Jeroen ;-}
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Larry and Pam Smith
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Q: Is there any real evidence that Dylan is a decent chessplayer? If he
is intensely private, how can we meaningfully speculate on this matter?
I remember a game in CL&R where a 1500 player either beat or drew Browne in
a long game... it can happen, it just happens rarely. The original poster
seems to think that a great player can just cream anyone below a certain
level in a few moves, which just isn't how it works... The above response
(from Sims) has it right, I think. Kasparov recently played a simul against
Sting and his band (?), a total of four games. All games were lopsided, but
they lasted 45 moves (vs. Sting), 31, 28, and 42.
Conclusion: Let's get Sting to play Dylan.
LS
WYSIWYG
"Larry and Pam Smith" <bf...@lafn.org> wrote:
>
> Q: Is there any real evidence that Dylan is a decent chessplayer?
If he
> is intensely private, how can we meaningfully speculate on this
matter?
People have been meaningfully speculating on stuff with far less
evidence for thousands of years, so let's not get metaphysical here,
okay? LOL.
We, meaning Larry and Pam Smith, can read about Dylan in many
authorized and unauthorized books and articles. Also, unless you are
playing anonymous correspondence chess, or you kill all of your
opponents, some of them are likely to have spilled the beans. Get thee
to a used bookstore (libraries are notoriously reluctant to carry bios
of people librarians can't understand, which covers a lot of ground).
WYSIWYG
"Jeroen ;-}" <jimva...@wxs.nl> wrote:
> > Then again, webtvers aren't exactly a force on the net. Or in real
> > life, most likely.
>
> But they do know how to use the remote with one hand and a beer with
another
> hand while belching out loud.
Q. How do you adjust the window size in WebTV?
<scroll>
A. You get up and move the couch. (This is difficult to do in most
single-wide "mobile homes)
WYSIWYG
whit...@webtv.net (cracker hater) wrote:
> There are 3 MAJOR DILDOS on this group
> (Paul Morphy, PMG, and KingsKnight), so
> you wuld be better off posting in less
> hostile waters.....
Only majors? I'd have thought Morphy and PMG were colonels at least.
Who's KingsKnight? He's probably just a second looie.
dgr...@my-deja.com
treyh@ANTISPAM (Trey Holliday) wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Sep 2000 07:40:32 -0400 (EDT), loneso...@webtv.net
> wrote:
>
> > Anders, of course I meant if a player of Fischer or Kasparov's
caliber
> >(or any grandmaster for that matter) were able to concentrate and
> >1700-1800 player (like Dylan) last before the game was hopelessly
lost?
> >The smartass answer might be the first move, but realistically, how
long
> >overwhelming strength?
> >
> I guess that depends on the 1700-1800 player's ability to stay alive
> during the opening. What makes most GM's so strong is their resolve
> in developing and executing a plan. I would much rather sneak my way
> into an opening I was familiar with, so I could at least say that I
> survived 20 moves against Kasparov.
>
dgr...@my-deja.com
If my goal was merely to forestall losiing as long as possible,
I'd strive to play a system that gives me King safety and the
initiative on the King-side. Of course, the GM would outplay you on the
Queenside, but the winning process is a bit more involved: get a
positional advantage, win a pawn, trade some pieces, create a passed
pawn, advance the pawn...If a class player were willing to sac a pawn
or two to reinforce his position and maintain King safety, he ought to
be able to make it to time control (40 moves). Class players get blown
out when they tangle up their pieces in the effort to keep a pawn.
blazing contempt
blazing contempt
PMG
WYSIWYG wrote:
>
> In article <8q07c8$be04t$1...@reader2.wxs.nl>,
> "Jeroen ;-}" <jimva...@wxs.nl> wrote:
> > > Then again, webtvers aren't exactly a force on the net. Or in real
> > > life, most likely.
> >
> > But they do know how to use the remote with one hand and a beer with
> another
> > hand while belching out loud.
>
> Q. How do you adjust the window size in WebTV?
>
> <scroll>
>
> A. You get up and move the couch. (This is difficult to do in most
> single-wide "mobile homes)
>
Admit it, webtv users are very advanced people for trailer trash, most
of them have a double-wide by now. But you should see them minimize a
window.
Pete
Phx000
back (and I can't recall the source - if you press me I can probably find it)
is that someone bought a meeting for Dylan with Bobby Fischer as a birthday
present - I think it was Dylan's manager at the time Albert Grossman. The
piece that I read didn't mention that they played a game, but I wouldn't be
surprised.
Todd Durham
PMG wrote:
>
> Todd Durham wrote:
> >
> > cracker hater wrote:
> > >
> > > There are 3 MAJOR DILDOS on this group
> > > (Paul Morphy, PMG, and KingsKnight), so
> > > you wuld be better off posting in less
> > > hostile waters.....
> >
> > Who the heck is KingsKnight?
> >
> > Todd
>
> I was wondering that too. I don't like sharing the distinguishing title
> MAJOR DILDOS with a virtual unknown. That webtv user was rather
> clueless if that's the best list he can come up with.
>
> Pete MAJOR DILDOS
Hey, you joined the service! Which branch?
Todd
Larry and Pam Smith
news:8q0chf$6up$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> In article <8q08kv$10a0$1...@zook.lafn.org>,
> "Larry and Pam Smith" <bf...@lafn.org> wrote:
> >
> > Q: Is there any real evidence that Dylan is a decent chessplayer?
> If he
> > is intensely private, how can we meaningfully speculate on this
> matter?
>
> People have been meaningfully speculating on stuff with far less
> evidence for thousands of years, so let's not get metaphysical here,
> okay? LOL.
>
Sorry if this sounded philosophically whiny. See below.
> We, meaning Larry and Pam Smith, can read about Dylan in many
> authorized and unauthorized books and articles. Also, unless you are
> playing anonymous correspondence chess, or you kill all of your
> opponents, some of them are likely to have spilled the beans. Get thee
> to a used bookstore (libraries are notoriously reluctant to carry bios
> of people librarians can't understand, which covers a lot of ground).
>
In other words, you don't know the answer either! I don't particularly care
to do the research you mention, so that's why I was posting the question. It
sounded to me that some people were quoting Dylan's playing strength at
around 1800. My point/question was that if he's so reclusive, and I assume
he never had a USCF rating (someone would have noticed this, unless he
played under an alias, etc., etc.), where is any shred of evidence that he's
a strong player? Any anecdotes someone remembers from some old article? Is
someone friends with Robbie Robertson and can ask him?
LS
peat...@my-deja.com
Todd Durham <tdu...@mdo.net> wrote:
>
>
> PMG wrote:
> >
> > Todd Durham wrote:
> > >
> > > cracker hater wrote:
> > > >
> > > > There are 3 MAJOR DILDOS on this group
> > > > (Paul Morphy, PMG, and KingsKnight), so
> > > > you wuld be better off posting in less
> > > > hostile waters.....
> > >
> > > Who the heck is KingsKnight?
> > >
> > > Todd
> >
> > I was wondering that too. I don't like sharing the distinguishing
title
> > MAJOR DILDOS with a virtual unknown. That webtv user was rather
> > clueless if that's the best list he can come up with.
> >
> > Pete MAJOR DILDOS
>
>
> Todd
>
No, they wouldn't take me, said I was too much of a dick. Reminding
them that TrickyDick was President didn't help. That was an honorary
title, I'd rather not go into the details.
Peat
Jim
NYYan...@webtv.net (blazing contempt) wrote:
> Thanks #4!
Wow, that was easy. If you're going to hang out on Usenet you're going
to have to develop a thicker skin. Drink more beer.
Jim
NYYan...@webtv.net (blazing contempt) wrote:
You're getting the idea. By now you've noticed we don't discriminate.
We'll trash anyone we feel is worth trashing. The ones we ignore are
eating their hearts out.
Jim
"Larry and Pam Smith" <bf...@lafn.org> wrote:
> My point/question was that if he's so reclusive, and I assume
> he never had a USCF rating (someone would have noticed this, unless he
> played under an alias, etc., etc.), where is any shred of evidence
that he's
> a strong player?
Now how the heck is Bob Dylan going to show up at a chess tournament
and not be recognized? Sure, maybe he plays cc.
>Any anecdotes someone remembers from some old article?
It's in a book somewhere, I just can't remember which one. I abused a
lot of chemicals back then, I'm getting old, my eyesight is shot and my
mind isn't far behind. That's why I suggested the bookstore. You're
young, you need a quest to add meaning to your peaceful married life.
Do you have kids? Make it a homework assignment or something. They'll
learn a lot reading about Dylan. Make sure they read up on Warhol while
they're at it. I actually think it was in a book about the Warhol scene
that I read it. Someday your kids will thank you, and so will we.
Is
> someone friends with Robbie Robertson and can ask him?
I stopped by his place the last time I was in Woodstock, a couple of
years ago, but he saw the chess board and slammed the door in my face.
Jim
tm...@webtv.net
After an eight hour day, I have no desire to stare at a twelve inch
screen while sitting at a desk. I like the fact that I can lay on my
bed and not have to strain my eyes while I surf on a 35'' screen instead
of a 12''. I don't need a PC. It's more relaxing. And it serves my
purpose.
jonlevitt
It would be interesting to know how many chess players are Bob Dylan
fans...a higher percentage than expectation is my guess.
To get the ball rolling i know I am, Agdestein and Hertneck too.
Cheers,
Jon levitt
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Phx000
songs. Just a couple of examples:
"Only a Pawn in Their Game" title
"In ceremonies of the horsemen, even the pawn must hold a grudge."
Also, on the Great White Wonder boot of years ago, he did a bit (not a song - a
comedian's BIT) about playing in a folk club in New Jersey where the everyone
was chess crazy - playing chess while he played, etc. When he went to get paid
he was paid in chess pieces.
Regard,
phx
Charles Milton Ling
Peter Svidler likes Dylan, too.
Charley
jonlevitt
Right! I knew i'd forgotten one. I saw that interview too.
Cheers,
Jonathan
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Charles Milton Ling <cml...@teleweb.at> wrote in message
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> jonlevitt wrote:
>
> > It would be interesting to know how many chess players are Bob Dylan
> > fans...a higher percentage than expectation is my guess.
> > To get the ball rolling i know I am, Agdestein and Hertneck too.
> Peter Svidler likes Dylan, too.
>
> Charley
>
Todd Durham
of the songs he's written (i.e. the one's performed by other people),
but whenever I hear him perform, I either laugh hystericaly, or get
annoyed, depending on my mood. His singing is reminiscent of the
bleating of a constipated sheep with a cold.
Todd
PMG
work. And most of these people who cover his songs seem to pass up some
of the best material too. Hearing someone say he doesn't like Dylan
just makes me want to put on one of his records. Some of the best, most
influential songs of the last 40 years of the 20th century came from
him.
If you think "his singing is reminiscent of the bleating of a
constipated sheep with a cold", then you may not be capable of enjoying
one of the greatest performers ever. You need to _not_ consider him as
being some sort of a profit like some mistakenly do, he's more of an
entertainer.
Pete
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Todd Durham
jonlevitt wrote:
>
> Todd,
>
> I don't know how you could say such a beastly thing...He's the best singer
> in the world. Even on an off-day.
> Quite seriously I regard him as a 2800 of music. His voice is a lot better
> than it seems.
What does that mean? As far as the quality of his voice, I just don't
get it. The only guy I've ever heard that had a worse voice was the lead
singer of the Pogues.
Todd
> No idea how to define 'fan'.
>
> Cheers,
> Jonathan
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> Todd Durham <tdu...@mdo.net> wrote in message
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Todd Durham
PMG wrote:
>
> Bob's great. You need to be a Dylan fan to know why the pump don't
> work. And most of these people who cover his songs seem to pass up some
> of the best material too. Hearing someone say he doesn't like Dylan
> just makes me want to put on one of his records. Some of the best, most
> influential songs of the last 40 years of the 20th century came from
> him.
>
> If you think "his singing is reminiscent of the bleating of a
> constipated sheep with a cold", then you may not be capable of enjoying
> one of the greatest performers ever. You need to _not_ consider him as
> being some sort of a profit like some mistakenly do, he's more of an
> entertainer.
I just don't get him as an entertainer. I remember seeing him on some
big tv event spectacular a few years ago. They had an all-star backup
band (Clapton on guitar, if memory serves) and several top female
singers to do back up. Then out comes Bob, and he starts singing(?)
who-only-knows-what in who-only-knows-what key. The singers were
confused, the band was confused, and Bob was DEFINTELY confused. He
didn't manage to get out one single recognizable word during his whole
performance. The only thing I've ever heard to rival that performance
was when the Pogues appeared on Saturday Night Live. Their lead singer
is the only person I've ever heard who sounds worse.
Todd
PMG
I missed the Pogues, and I'm not familiar with them at all.
Yeah, everything I've seen Bob do live in the last decade or so has been
incoherent. His appearance at Concert for Bangladesh was great
through. I seem to recall that was unrehearsed too, everyone seems to
know his stuff at least by ear well enough that a several people just
backed him pretty much on the spot.
Lenny Pinkas from Chicago had a great Bob Dylan Tribute band going for a
while, had a bunch of the local musicians, including News Man/Blues Man
Harp player Buzz Killman. I think that whole thing ran it's course. It
was sort of a celebration of Dylan, which only makes sense to you if
you're a fan. Lenny Pinkas as Bob Dylan: "I _hate_ that song!"
Think of Bob as being an event, maybe that's a better explanation than
calling him an entertainer.
Pete
jonlevitt
I don't know how you could say such a beastly thing...He's the best singer
in the world. Even on an off-day.
Quite seriously I regard him as a 2800 of music. His voice is a lot better
than it seems.
No idea how to define 'fan'.
Cheers,
Jonathan
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Todd Durham <tdu...@mdo.net> wrote in message
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> Could you please clarify what you mean by being a Dylan fan? I like some
> of the songs he's written (i.e. the one's performed by other people),
> but whenever I hear him perform, I either laugh hystericaly, or get
> annoyed, depending on my mood. His singing is reminiscent of the
> bleating of a constipated sheep with a cold.
>
> Todd
Martin Sims
news:39C52C45...@mdo.net...
> Could you please clarify what you mean by being a Dylan fan? I like some
> of the songs he's written (i.e. the one's performed by other people),
> but whenever I hear him perform, I either laugh hystericaly, or get
> annoyed, depending on my mood. His singing is reminiscent of the
> bleating of a constipated sheep with a cold.
>
> Todd
Nice troll, Todd (but I caught you with my Soviet basketball one).
jonlevitt
I suppose i mean it's an acquired taste, a bit like playing the French
defence...
If I'd never heard him before I presume that I'd hate the sound of his
recent voice. being familiar with it I still like it.
If you listen to a recent song like 'Things have changed', the depth and
tone of his voice is incredibly rich and he sounds as brilliant as ever.
Jonathan
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Todd Durham <tdu...@mdo.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> jonlevitt wrote:
> >
> > Todd,
> >
> > I don't know how you could say such a beastly thing...He's the best
singer
> > in the world. Even on an off-day.
> > Quite seriously I regard him as a 2800 of music. His voice is a lot
better
> > than it seems.
>
Brendan O'Connell
I would have rather preferred to watch a Simon and Garunkel vs. Bobby
Fischer match. 2 against 1. Besides, wasn't their album #1 and
breaking records back in 1972?
but Bobby would win because he is a rock and there would be no sounds of
silence from the crowd watching as he prounced on his opponents like a
bridge over troubled water at a Scarborough Fair in America.
Bobby should come back to USA where he would be homeward bound.
In article <29562-39...@storefull-138.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
tm...@webtv.net wrote:
> Does anyone here know if it is true that Bob Dylan paid Bobby
Fischer
> to play a game? And how long could a recreational 1700-1800 player
last
> against a great grandmaster and champion on the average? Ten moves if
> he had the sense to resign? Could the war be prolonged? Do any of
you
> know of any games where a lower rated player has pushed a much higher
> rated player to the brink? Thanks.
>
>
--
"There's no logic here today
Do as you got to, go your own way
I said that's right
Time's short your life's your own
And in the end
We are just
DUST N' BONES"
where...@my-deja.com
Jim <jkea...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> In article <8q1agh$7a7$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> peat...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
My memory isn't that good, fortunatly I can remember this url though:
http://x66.deja.com/threadmsg_ct.xp?thitnum=2&mhitnum=0&CONTEXT=96930892
4.94633986&new=0
Btw, the I Dream Of Jenie show? Great TV, today she had amnesia, it was
cause by a bump on the head, and they x-rayed her head, but there was
nothing in there (seriouslly), and of course whe was cured by another
bump on the head. But if there was nothing in her head, how could a
bump on her head cause amnesia? And if her brain wasn't in her head,
where was it? I need some answers!
The second time she bumped heads with Roger, so now _he_ had amnesia.
Who could see that coming? Fine show.
Wherever
Todd Durham
PMG wrote:
> I missed the Pogues, and I'm not familiar with them at all.
You've missed nothing at all!
> Yeah, everything I've seen Bob do live in the last decade or so has been
> incoherent. His appearance at Concert for Bangladesh was great
> through.
Wow. I'm too young to remember that concert. But a year or so after Live
Aid I was reading some old news magazines and came across an article on
the concert for Bangla Desh, as I believe it was spelled then. I was
surprised but not shopcked to find out that Live Aid was not that unique
an event. Oh well, just the media fucking something else up.
Todd
Todd Durham
Martin Sims wrote:
>
> "Todd Durham" <tdu...@mdo.net> wrote in message
Who the hell are you, anyway? As far as "catching" me on the Soviet
basketball thing, you've got a way to go yet. The Soviets played a good
game that year, but they should have lost. The officials blew it, and
that's as clear as a Kasparov take back.
Todd
PS And I just happen to think Dylan has a hideous voice. No troll at
all. Now if you want a troll, I can bring up what a wonderful, kind,
caring and considerate guy Bobby Fischer is. But that's another
thread....
PMG
Todd Durham wrote:
>
> PMG wrote:
>
> > I missed the Pogues, and I'm not familiar with them at all.
>
> You've missed nothing at all!
>
> > Yeah, everything I've seen Bob do live in the last decade or so has been
> > incoherent. His appearance at Concert for Bangladesh was great
> > through.
>
> Wow. I'm too young to remember that concert.
I used to laugh at people who were born in the '60s, now sometimes I'm
forced to laugh at people because they were born in the '70s and '80s.
They just missed so much. Fortunately I'm very young though, I sure
would have hated having been born in the '40s!
> But a year or so after Live
> Aid I was reading some old news magazines and came across an article on
> the concert for Bangla Desh, as I believe it was spelled then. I was
> surprised but not shopcked to find out that Live Aid was not that unique
> an event. Oh well, just the media fucking something else up.
>
> Todd
The Concert for Bangladesh (this appears to be the spelling) was the
first I remember happening. The worst part of that record was the stuff
with the sitar, I hate that instrument. There was a killer set of songs
by Leon Russell. A great unplugged set by Badfinger, years before the
idiots on MTV did it. Billy Preston was there, Clapton, the thing was
run by George Harrison, so Ringo was probably there (have not heard it
in years). There's a horribly overpriced CD available.
Pete
--
I wanna go somewhere I can't be found,
and I won't have to carry this load,
but it follows me wherever I go. -- Steve Earle
Martin Sims
> Who the hell are you, anyway? As far as "catching" me on the Soviet
> basketball thing, you've got a way to go yet. The Soviets played a good
> game that year, but they should have lost. The officials blew it, and
> that's as clear as a Kasparov take back.
I never heard of you either, so I guess we're even on that. My Soviet
basketball reference was a blatant troll; by responding to it, you fell for
it.
PHyatt1962
one who own's at least one bootleg.
Pete
PS: I have more than one, thanks to the magic of CDR's.
PHyatt1962
dylan has been shockingly coherent, friendly, smiling, ect...with much new
music being played from his more recent releases...
very relevant.
Even my wife, who loves to ridicule, could not believe that she could
understand the lyrics!
I have seen him in '97, '99, ad 2000, and it was really something else. My
kids loved it.
PH
PMG
Bob Dylan coherent live? This would seem to be rather solid evidence
that what you saw was that Bob was kidnapped by aliens from another
planet, duplicated (but not very well!), and then the DupliBob was
returned to Earth in Bob's place.
It saddens me to know that aliens have kidnapped and replaced so many of
our cultural icons. But it's a lawless universe, that's what makes it
such a good place to be.
Jeroen ;-}
"Todd Durham" <tdu...@mdo.net> schreef in bericht
news:39C808AC...@mdo.net...
> Wow. I'm too young to remember that concert. But a year or so after Live
> Aid I was reading some old news magazines and came across an article on
> the concert for Bangla Desh, as I believe it was spelled then. I was
> surprised but not shopcked to find out that Live Aid was not that unique
> an event. Oh well, just the media fucking something else up.
The Bangla Desh concert was nothing more than a giant landing strip for
George Harrison's magic carpet.
It is said George flew over while Bob was performing and shouted to him :
"Cool, Doctor Bob, did you get that sitar from the Maharishi himself?"
before colliding with a giant speaker on the stage.
But maybe I made up the story. My sweet lord....
Next week on muppet hospital.....
--
Jeroen ;-}
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Todd Durham
"Jeroen ;-}" wrote:
>
> "Todd Durham" <tdu...@mdo.net> schreef in bericht
> news:39C808AC...@mdo.net...
> > Wow. I'm too young to remember that concert. But a year or so after Live
> > Aid I was reading some old news magazines and came across an article on
> > the concert for Bangla Desh, as I believe it was spelled then. I was
> > surprised but not shopcked to find out that Live Aid was not that unique
> > an event. Oh well, just the media fucking something else up.
>
> The Bangla Desh concert was nothing more than a giant landing strip for
> George Harrison's magic carpet.
>
> It is said George flew over while Bob was performing and shouted to him :
> "Cool, Doctor Bob, did you get that sitar from the Maharishi himself?"
> before colliding with a giant speaker on the stage.
>
> But maybe I made up the story. My sweet lord....
>
> Next week on muppet hospital.....
... where medicine has gone to the dogs!
"Dr. Bob! Dr. Bob!"
Todd
peat...@my-deja.com
I thought I was a Dylan fan, but I guess I'm wrong then. I don't even
have the basement tapes.
Ok, then name a great Dylan imatation!! Hah! Ok, to me, the best Dylan
imatation was on Frank Zappa's "Flakes" on "Sheik Yerbouti" (must be
read with Dylan's voice in mind):
"I asked as nice as I could If my
job would Somehow be finished by Friday Well, them whole damn weekend
came 'n' went, Frankie *[Wanna buy some mandies,
Bob?]* 'N' they didn't do nothin' But they charged me double for Sunday
You know, no matter what you do, They gonna cheat 'n'
rob you Then they'll send you a bill That'll get your senses reelin' And
if you do not pay They got computer collectors That'll get
you so crazy 'Til your head'll go through th' ceilin' Yes it will!"
That Zappa LP is worth owning, if nothing else, just for the brief Dylan
imatation.
PMG
bill_p...@my-deja.com
rented a flat in the south of France for a couple of weeks. (Valra nr
Bezier). One of our number played a guitar and sung Bob Dylan songs in
the evening (no TV or discos etc.). Since then I have always liked Bob
Dylan the songwriter although not Dylan the performer of those songs -
other singers do them better!
Thinking about it, Bob Dylan does look a little like an average English
grandmaster (eg. has the same unkept appearance :-).
Bill
In article <39c4...@news1.homechoice.co.uk>,
"jonlevitt" <jonl...@jonlevitt.homechoice.co.uk> wrote:
>
> It would be interesting to know how many chess players are Bob Dylan
> fans...a higher percentage than expectation is my guess.
> To get the ball rolling i know I am, Agdestein and Hertneck too.
>
> Cheers,
> Jon levitt
>
> --
> UK Editor, KasparovChess:
> www.kasparovchess.com
>
> Personal Home Page:
> www.jlevitt.dircon.co.uk
>
> <tm...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:29562-39...@storefull-138.iap.bryant.webtv.net...
> > Does anyone here know if it is true that Bob Dylan paid Bobby
Fischer
> > to play a game? And how long could a recreational 1700-1800 player
last
> > against a great grandmaster and champion on the average? Ten moves
if
> > he had the sense to resign? Could the war be prolonged? Do any of
you
> > know of any games where a lower rated player has pushed a much
higher
> > rated player to the brink? Thanks.
> >
>
>
jonlevitt
Cheers,
Jon Levitt
PMG
--
Todd Durham
Pete, I missed something here. When did you join the Forces of
Insufficient Light?
Todd
jonlevitt
Dylan...
Maybe it's me?? Unkept? Moi?
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PMG <av...@mediaone.net> wrote in message
news:39CB9C33...@mediaone.net...
Martin Sims
news:39cc...@news1.homechoice.co.uk...
> I doubt it...Julian is hardly an 'average' GM and he looks nothing like
Bob
> Dylan...
>
> Maybe it's me?? Unkept? Moi?
Back in the 80's I saw a video featuring the UK Olympiad team, and was
struck by the strong resemblance of all four members to Graham Garden from
The Goodies TV series.
Akorps
hystericaly, or get annoyed ...
I heard Dylan at a concert in Berkeley
around 1966 or so, and at that time he
was really awesome. He was basically
a child of the 1960s, during his time he
was like a God, but now he seems
somewhat anachronistic. I guess you had
to be there, to feel the impact he had at
that time. Now it wouldn't make any sense
to try and explain it. He captured the spirit
of that crazy time, but the times have changed ...
peat...@my-deja.com
"Come gather 'round people
Wherever you roam
And admit that the waters
Around you have grown
And accept it that soon
You'll be drenched to the bone.
If your time to you
Is worth savin'
Then you better start swimmin'
Or you'll sink like a stone
For the times they are a-changin'."--Bob Dylan
Is any explanation of why Dylan is great really needed? I don't think
so.
Peat
Sam Sloan
> Does anyone here know if it is true that Bob Dylan paid Bobby Fischer
>to play a game? And how long could a recreational 1700-1800 player last
>against a great grandmaster and champion on the average? Ten moves if
>he had the sense to resign? Could the war be prolonged? Do any of you
>know of any games where a lower rated player has pushed a much higher
>rated player to the brink? Thanks.
>
Why do you think that Bob Dylan is a 1700-1800 player?
That would put him above the average tournament player, and I am not
aware of Bob Dylan playing in a chess tournament.
Although I know nothing about Bob Dylan as a chess player, I would be
surprised if he were stronger than 1200-1300.
Sam Sloan
PJDBAD
>our cultural icons. But it's a lawless universe, that's what makes it
>such a good place to be.
>
It's not generally know but this is the mother ship. The people missing have
simply been returned to their respective home planets. Chess players actually
run the mother ship and control it through chess and other games. I think this
would make a great science fiction story (well maybe not the chess part) where
everyone on earth becomes aware that we are "the alien invaders" and have a
mission to carry out.
peat...@my-deja.com
It would be a huge ego boost if everyone on this planet became aware
that we were actually invading aliens. But 3 problems occur to me;
1) How can we fight each other when we are invading someone else?
and
2) I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
and
3) No matter where you go, there you are.
mongo_...@my-deja.com
peat...@my-deja.com wrote:
> In article <20001001232910...@ng-cg1.aol.com>,
> pjd...@aol.com (PJDBAD) wrote:
> that we were actually invading aliens. But 3 problems occur to me;
>
> 1) How can we fight each other when we are invading someone else?
>
> and
>
> 2) I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
>
> and
>
> 3) No matter where you go, there you are.
>
> Peat
>
How can you borrow trite expressions like those and then have the gaul
to sign you name at the bottom of your post?
Mongo