Top Ten Ways to Tell If You Are a Patzer
Vince Waciuk
9. Had your name legally changed to "Smithov".
8. Your favourite move is "Queen to queen's level six".
7. You are secretly working on the "Scooby-Doo Gambit".
6. You join every internet email chess club and claim your rating to be
2700+, but never play a single game.
5. Your friends refer to you as "patzer-boy."
4. You think that Bobby Fischer's recent interviews are really cool.
3. You tell your friends chess was first invented buy the guy who made
the rubic's cube.
2. You think that "pushing wood" is something you can get from a hooker
for 200 bucks downtown.
and the number one way to tell if you are a patzer is...
1. You get your pawn to the last rank and immediately jump up and yell
"King me!"
Humourously
Vince
--
Vincent Waciuk
vrwa...@sprint.ca
PMG
Vince Waciuk wrote:
> 10. You need protective goggles to prevent serious eye injuries.
That's only to prevent eye injuries while playing blitz games while being
restrained by I straight jacket, I've explained this before
>
>
> 9. Had your name legally changed to "Smithov".
Not "Smithov" it's "Petavich Botanimzov"
>
>
> 8. Your favourite move is "Queen to queen's level six".
I see nothing wrong with using Tetris tactics in Chess.
>
>
> 7. You are secretly working on the "Scooby-Doo Gambit".
I've always wondered why there was never any Chess games in the cartoon
"Dexter's Laboratory". I see this as being a major flaw in that now
defunked cartoon show. Most regrettable.
>
>
> 6. You join every internet email chess club and claim your rating to be
> 2700+, but never play a single game.
One time I had a dream where I was rated 2683, but I played several games
against Kasparov and by the time we were done I was rate 24. It was a bad
dream.
>
>
> 5. Your friends refer to you as "patzer-boy."
I'm a better Chess player than all of the people who've called me that this
week.
>
>
> 4. You think that Bobby Fischer's recent interviews are really cool.
Who?
>
>
> 3. You tell your friends chess was first invented buy the guy who made
> the rubic's cube.
Very true.
>
>
> 2. You think that "pushing wood" is something you can get from a hooker
> for 200 bucks downtown.
no comment.
>
>
> and the number one way to tell if you are a patzer is...
>
> 1. You get your pawn to the last rank and immediately jump up and yell
> "King me!"
The advantage of Kinging a pawn is that it can now move in both directions
on the Chess board. And btw I've never seen any rules for Chess stating
that I cannot promote a pawn to two Checkers stacked on top of each other.
Pete
Iago
Vince Waciuk wrote in message <37BAF6EB...@sprint.ca>...
>4. You think that Bobby Fischer's recent interviews are really cool.
--Would you mind if I came to you house while you were away and stole all
your stuff? How about destroying your book and not paying you a cent in
royalties? Hey, maybe I could have the government indict you for completely
bogus reasons, forcing your exile. Do you want me to go on? The truth is not
always nice to hear. At least HE, unlike most of today's celebrities, has
the guts to tell it like it is.
Ron Moskovitz
"Like it is" is a vast jewish conspiracy?
Give me a break.
-Ron
Iago
Ron Moskovitz wrote in message <7pfu27$9...@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com>...
Your post is tad ambiguous. Were you refering to Fischer's claims that
there's a conspiracy against him because he's not afraid of stating facts
about Jews, or are you refering to the Jewish conspiracy to control the
world? Either way, I don't think my post deserved a "give me a break" on
your part. If Fischer is not the victim of a conspiracy, he's the unluckiest
bastard I've ever known. Let's leave at that, shall we? Neither of us can
prove anything one way or another.
As for Fischer's ranting about the Jews and the evils they have perpetrated
throughout history, one only has to do some research to find the truth. A
few issues are highly debatable, but some facts remain... The problem
nowadays is that even stating a fact will be interpreted as racist and
hateful by some. I encourage everyone here to go to:
http://www.wpww.com/jewwatch/index.html
Inform yourselves and make up your mind afterwards. You'll find interesting
stuff about the Bolshevik Revolution, Jewish racist beliefs (the talmud
provides countless examples), the zionist occupied goverments, the Jewish
control over the media, etc. I'm not an anti-semite, nor am I a nazi. I'm
simply an informed citizen. Unfortunately, we live in a politically correct
society where we're not supposed to tell the truth.
Chuck Cadman
Iago wrote in message
>
>Ron Moskovitz wrote in message <7pfu27$9...@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com>...
>>In article <3_Fu3.3373$MW6.1...@wagner.videotron.net>,
>>Iago <jim...@netrevolution.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Vince Waciuk wrote in message <37BAF6EB...@sprint.ca>...
>>>
>>>>4. You think that Bobby Fischer's recent interviews are really cool.
>>>
>>>
>>>--Would you mind if I came to you house while you were away and stole all
>>>your stuff? How about destroying your book and not paying you a cent in
>>>royalties? Hey, maybe I could have the government indict you for
>completely
>>>bogus reasons, forcing your exile. Do you want me to go on? The truth is
>not
>>>always nice to hear. At least HE, unlike most of today's celebrities, has
>>>the guts to tell it like it is.
>>
>> "Like it is" is a vast jewish conspiracy?
>>
>> Give me a break.
>>
>> -Ron
>
>
>
>throughout history, one only has to do some research to find the truth. A
>few issues are highly debatable, but some facts remain... The problem
>nowadays is that even stating a fact will be interpreted as racist and
>hateful by some. I encourage everyone here to go to:
>http://www.wpww.com/jewwatch/index.html
>Inform yourselves and make up your mind afterwards. You'll find interesting
>stuff about the Bolshevik Revolution, Jewish racist beliefs (the talmud
>provides countless examples), the zionist occupied goverments, the Jewish
>control over the media, etc. I'm not an anti-semite, nor am I a nazi. I'm
>simply an informed citizen. Unfortunately, we live in a politically correct
>society where we're not supposed to tell the truth.
It seems to me that the truth is quite simple, and that we are constantly
bombarded with it through the media (those of us who pay attention to it).
The truth is that almost all racial and religious groups do or have at one
time hated one another and committed atrocities against one another. Take
for example the conflict in Kosovo, where members of both sides have done
nasty things to one another. Don't tell me that either side was morally "in
the right." Here's a newsgroup where you can read all about contemporary
violence of this sort: clari.news.conflict.misc.
I think that the site you give is racist because it focuses only on things
that Jews do or have done. Why couldn't it be a Hate Watch site instead of
a Jew Watch site? There are, for example, plenty of things it could point
out about Christianity. The Old Testament "preaches" hate towards
homosexuals and the New Testament makes the Jews out to be stuck-up rich
people who do not deserve to enter the kingdom of heaven. And let's not
forget about all the wars that have been fought in the name of Christianity.
Let's not forget that the pope divided the non-Christian lands between Spain
and Portugal as though non-believers were not worthy of owning their own
land. And let's not forget that during the time of westward expansion,
Americans believed that the land which the natives had lived on for so long
was theirs by divine right. The bible was also used to defend the practice
of slavery.
I don't mean to bash Christians. I was actually raised to be Christian. I
just mean to say that the truth is wider than "Jews are evil."
Iago
Chuck Cadman wrote in message ...
--I agree with most of your statements.
>I think that the site you give is racist because it focuses only on things
>that Jews do or have done. Why couldn't it be a Hate Watch site instead of
>a Jew Watch site?
--You should ask them, not me. But I see your point.
There are, for example, plenty of things it could point
>out about Christianity. The Old Testament "preaches" hate towards
>homosexuals and the New Testament makes the Jews out to be stuck-up rich
>people who do not deserve to enter the kingdom of heaven. And let's not
>forget about all the wars that have been fought in the name of
Christianity.
>Let's not forget that the pope divided the non-Christian lands between
Spain
>and Portugal as though non-believers were not worthy of owning their own
>land. And let's not forget that during the time of westward expansion,
>Americans believed that the land which the natives had lived on for so long
>was theirs by divine right. The bible was also used to defend the practice
>of slavery.
>
--Those things are covered by dozens of websites and newspaper articles as
well. Christians have committed their share of atrocities too. I completely
agree with that.
>I don't mean to bash Christians. I was actually raised to be Christian. I
>just mean to say that the truth is wider than "Jews are evil."
--I don't think I said that all Jews were evil. They have committed many
evil acts, but I wouldn't point to every single Jew and say, "You're evil."
My original point was that Fischer's views weren't that crazy, as some have
suggested. He does go a bit far on some occasions (he tends to generalize
and to accept theories as facts), but overall, it wasn't anything completely
new for those of us who have thoroughly studied the Jewish question. Your
post was very interesting. It's nice to see people who can make their point
with good arguments without yelling, "racist, nazi, uneducated biggot".
Tomek
Iago heeft geschreven in bericht
<3_Fu3.3373$MW6.1...@wagner.videotron.net>...
>
>Vince Waciuk wrote in message <37BAF6EB...@sprint.ca>...
>
>>4. You think that Bobby Fischer's recent interviews are really cool.
>
>
>--Would you mind if I came to you house while you were away and stole all
>your stuff? How about destroying your book and not paying you a cent in
>royalties? Hey, maybe I could have the government indict you for completely
>bogus reasons, forcing your exile. Do you want me to go on? The truth is
not
>always nice to hear. At least HE, unlike most of today's celebrities, has
>the guts to tell it like it is.
Some things are better not told.
Tomek.
Brian Sumner
>
> Vince Waciuk wrote in message <37BAF6EB...@sprint.ca>...
>
> >4. You think that Bobby Fischer's recent interviews are really cool.
>
> --Would you mind if I came to you house while you were away and stole all
> your stuff? How about destroying your book and not paying you a cent in
> royalties? Hey, maybe I could have the government indict you for completely
> bogus reasons, forcing your exile. Do you want me to go on? The truth is not
> always nice to hear. At least HE, unlike most of today's celebrities, has
> the guts to tell it like it is.
No one would care to have their things stolen; however, few would
blame a world-wide Jewish conspiracy. Fischer's reaction to Batford's
butchering his book is perfectly understandable, but again, the
anti-Semitic rantings undercut his credibility. As far as the
indictment goes, that may have been an ill-conceived policy on behalf
of our government, but his spitting on the letter and tearing it up
during a news conference did nothing but hurt his cause.
Fischer may be telling it like it is from HIS perspective, but his
perspective is hardly that of a sane and reasonable person. He has
been spewing vicious, hate-filled rhetoric for many years now. He has
become an embarrassment to probably a majority of American chess
players. He was once a great artist, though and I do still have the
highest regard for his accomplishments there.
Vince Waciuk
I congratulate you on taking this post as it was meant. In jest. It was meant
as a way to introduce some light humour in an otherwise dull day (for myself),
and not as an inducement for political ranting. My only objective was to share
a smile with others who might find it amusing. Instead I seem to have caused
some ill feelings in others (and for that I apologize).
Each person's views are their own and I make no judgement. I only feel that the
world would be a little better place if people could laugh a little more.
Vince
PMG wrote:
> snip
--
Vincent Waciuk
vrwa...@sprint.ca
gee...@my-deja.com
Vince Waciuk <vrwa...@sprint.ca> wrote:
>
> 2. You think that "pushing wood" is something you can get from a hooker
> for 200 bucks downtown.
Excuse my crudeness, but a dyed-in-the-wool patzer would probably prefer
"pulling wood" in this regard...
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
PMG
at how upset people were getting talking about one paticular issue. It was a good
original post, you never know what will happen to it in usenet do you?
Pete
Vince Waciuk
PMG wrote:
> They pulled out the flame throwers for your post didn't they? I was busy laughing
> at how upset people were getting talking about one paticular issue. It was a good
> original post, you never know what will happen to it in usenet do you?
>
> Pete
snip
--
Vincent Waciuk
vrwa...@sprint.ca
David Hanley
Iago wrote:
> Vince Waciuk wrote in message <37BAF6EB...@sprint.ca>...
>
> >4. You think that Bobby Fischer's recent interviews are really cool.
>
> --Would you mind if I came to you house while you were away and stole all
> your stuff?
Are you inferring this happened to fischer? i thought he had his things
in storage, didn;t pay the rent, and it got confiscated by the owner of the
rental. This happens all the time.
> How about destroying your book and not paying you a cent in
> royalties? Hey, maybe I could have the government indict you for completely
> bogus reasons, forcing your exile.
Fischer was warned that breaking the embargo would do this, and
anyone else would have gotten similar treatment. Furthermore, there is
no exile; he is free to return and straighten things out.
> Do you want me to go on?
Not really, but I am sure you will.
> The truth is not
> always nice to hear. At least HE, unlike most of today's celebrities, has
> the guts to tell it like it is.
Like what is?
dave
David Hanley
Iago wrote:
> Ron Moskovitz wrote in message <7pfu27$9...@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com>...
> >In article <3_Fu3.3373$MW6.1...@wagner.videotron.net>,
> >Iago <jim...@netrevolution.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>Vince Waciuk wrote in message <37BAF6EB...@sprint.ca>...
> >>
> >>>4. You think that Bobby Fischer's recent interviews are really cool.
> >>
> >>
> >>--Would you mind if I came to you house while you were away and stole all
> >>your stuff? How about destroying your book and not paying you a cent in
> >>royalties? Hey, maybe I could have the government indict you for
> completely
> >>bogus reasons, forcing your exile. Do you want me to go on? The truth is
> not
> >>always nice to hear. At least HE, unlike most of today's celebrities, has
> >>the guts to tell it like it is.
> >
> > "Like it is" is a vast jewish conspiracy?
> >
> > Give me a break.
> >
> > -Ron
>
> Your post is tad ambiguous. Were you refering to Fischer's claims that
> there's a conspiracy against him because he's not afraid of stating facts
> about Jews, or are you refering to the Jewish conspiracy to control the
> world? Either way, I don't think my post deserved a "give me a break" on
> your part. If Fischer is not the victim of a conspiracy, he's the unluckiest
> bastard I've ever known. Let's leave at that, shall we? Neither of us can
> prove anything one way or another.
That is silly. Fischer is not unlucky, he was stupid. He could have
played that match against karpov, the same kind of match he beat
spassky in, with a 99% chance of winning. He could have done simuls
in the US for a few years and retired rich. He is not unlucky in the least.
He got a lot of breaks, such as people like benko and reshevsky ceding
spots for him to play in the championshiop ( gee, what was sammy? )
The web site you posted is really sad, selecting a jewish criminals while
ignoring many others, and blaming events of jews they had nothing to do with.
That is mixed with reams of paranoid fantasy. Ethnic groups have killed
other ethnic groups for thousands of years, and jewish people seem to
be no better or worse than any others, but it seems in our culture, there
are people who are fixated on them for some reason and feel the need to
invent diatribes such as that web site.
dave
David Hanley
gee...@my-deja.com wrote:
> In article <37BAF6EB...@sprint.ca>,
> Vince Waciuk <vrwa...@sprint.ca> wrote:
> >
> > 2. You think that "pushing wood" is something you can get from a hooker
> > for 200 bucks downtown.
>
> Excuse my crudeness, but a dyed-in-the-wool patzer would probably prefer
> "pulling wood" in this regard...
Hopefully you're not paying 200 bucks for that!!
"why buy milk when the hand is free"
dave
Adamski
writes
>He is not unlucky in the least.
>He got a lot of breaks, such as people like benko and reshevsky ceding
>spots for him to play in the championshiop
For which 'championshiop' did Reshevsky cede his spot to Fischer?
Jeroen ;-}
Would you please stop? - my already deformed head is getting further outta
shape.
:-D
--
Jeroen ;-}
-------------------------------
jimva...@wxs.nl
http://zip.to/jeroen
ICQ#45740870
-------------------------------
Jeroen ;-}
Iago
David Hanley wrote in message <37BC676D...@ncgr.org>...
>He got a lot of breaks, such as people like benko and reshevsky ceding
>
--Benko did make him a big favor, but other than that, I wouldn't say he was
treated better than most players. He was pretty much alone against the
system. That being said, the last 7 years haven't been exactly "lucky" ones
for Bobby, eh?
>The web site you posted is really sad,
--Why? Most of what I read there was true. A few things are debatable
though.
selecting a jewish criminals while
>ignoring many others,
--The Jewish media does that all the time. Take the example of the shooting
in that Jewish youth center in LA. A nut shot and injured 5 kids and 1
adult. The story was everywhere in the national media, and sympathy poured
in for those victims and their loved ones. That event was indeed tragic.
Meanwhile, last May, a deranged killer plowed his car into a group of
preschoolers near Los Angeles, killing two children and injuring five other
people. The murderer, Steven Abrams, told police the carnage was meant to be
a statement to an old girlfriend. "He felt (the children) were innocent so
they would make a larger statement for whatever turmoil he was having in his
relationship," according to a police spokesman. The event got little
publicity outside the Los Angeles area. The murderer was apparently Jewish.
Makes you wonder...
and blaming events of jews they had nothing to do with.
--Examples?
>That is mixed with reams of paranoid fantasy.
--Examples?
Ethnic groups have killed
>other ethnic groups for thousands of years, and jewish people seem to
>be no better or worse than any others,
--Jews have mastered a more clever technique than murder...
but it seems in our culture, there
>are people who are fixated on them for some reason
--Gee, I wonder why.
and feel the need to
>invent diatribes such as that web site.
>
--That website exists because nowhere in the mainstream (i.e. Jewish) media
will you find that information.
>dave
>
Iago
David Hanley wrote in message <37BC6379...@ncgr.org>...
>
>
>Iago wrote:
>
>> Vince Waciuk wrote in message <37BAF6EB...@sprint.ca>...
>>
>> >4. You think that Bobby Fischer's recent interviews are really cool.
>>
>> --Would you mind if I came to you house while you were away and stole all
>> your stuff?
>
>in storage, didn;t pay the rent, and it got confiscated by the owner of the
>rental. This happens all the time.
>
--Well, Bob Elsworth didn't pay the rent. If you send money to an employee
who is supposed to take care of the monthly bill(s) and he decides not to
pay them, that's a crime. Under US laws (state and federal), that's illegal
and charges could be filed against him. Bobby wasn't notified that his rent
wasn't being paid until it was too late. And it's not like he was given many
options once he knew about it. I guess he could have bought back all his
stuff, right? If that's not being screwed, I don't know what is...
>
>> How about destroying your book and not paying you a cent in
>> royalties? Hey, maybe I could have the government indict you for
completely
>> bogus reasons, forcing your exile.
>
>Fischer was warned that breaking the embargo would do this,
--Only once he got to Yugoslavia, to my knowledge (I could be wrong though).
and
>anyone else would have gotten similar treatment.
--You CANNOT be serious! Try to find another person at that rematch who was
indicted. There were dozens of Americans there who made money on Yugoslavian
soil (members of the media, chess players, etc) and I don't recall anyone
being indicted except Fischer. Your statement is a joke.
Furthermore, there is
>no exile; he is free to return and straighten things out.
>
--Again, are you serious? Free to return? Straighten things out? Boy, you
don't know much about politics and the judicial system...
>> Do you want me to go on?
>
>Not really, but I am sure you will.
>
>> The truth is not
>> always nice to hear. At least HE, unlike most of today's celebrities, has
>> the guts to tell it like it is.
>
>Like what is?
>
>dave
>
>
Ron Moskovitz
trying spread lesbinism. I had a bigger one when I read how it described
civil rights as a "jewish mind control mechanism." On one page, it
cites a quote by Hitler as proof positive of someone's judaism.
I think it's sad that you consider what that site publishes
as being worth a second thought. It's tripe. You're an idiot if
you can't realize it as such.
Iago
Ron Moskovitz wrote in message <7pisct$k...@dfw-ixnews13.ix.netcom.com>...
--First, I never said I endorsed everything that was on the site. Dismissing
everything as "tripe" because of a couple of questionable articles isn't
very smart though. Most of the stuff there has been thoroughly researched
and comes from reliable sources. Of course, you found an Hitler quote and
offered it as proof that the whole thing was crap. For some reason, I
expected you to dismiss it as "tripe". It could be because you're Jewish and
you don't appreciate anyone trying to question you or your culture. Who
knows? I personally don't mind when people expose the evils perpetrated by
my race and religion. Why can't you do the same? My people have probably
been oppressed just as much as your people, but we never got any freebies
because of it, nor did we get or own country. Are you ready to say that the
Bolshevik Revolution (and the subsequent Communist movement) wasn't mostly a
Jewish affair? Are you dumb enough to claim that the American media is not
under Jewish control? You see, I don't have a problem with Jews per se, I
just have a problem with groups of people who monopolize the higher echelons
of power and use their influence to insidiously spread their philosophy
amongst the unsuspecting masses. And to lie about it is not exactly
endearing. If you don't see a problem with the disproportionate amount of
power and influence of the Jews (which I assume you don't because, after
all, your people hold the power and you probably share their political
philosophy - leftism/liberalism/socialism), you're part of the problem...
and you have a lousy memory.
Vince Waciuk
stitches. I think I had better start putting newspapers under my chair in case
I have a similar accident.
Vince
"Jeroen ;-}" wrote:
> No matter the rest of the thread - I just peed my pants laughing.
> Would you please stop? - my already deformed head is getting further outta
> shape.
>
> :-D
> --
> Jeroen ;-}
> -------------------------------
> jimva...@wxs.nl
> http://zip.to/jeroen
> ICQ#45740870
> -------------------------------
--
Vincent Waciuk
vrwa...@sprint.ca
David Hanley
Adamski wrote:
> In article <37BC676D...@ncgr.org>, David Hanley <d...@ncgr.org>
> writes
> >He is not unlucky in the least.
> >He got a lot of breaks, such as people like benko and reshevsky ceding
> >spots for him to play in the championshiop
>
> For which 'championshiop' did Reshevsky cede his spot to Fischer?
Reshevsky had to agree to cede a zonal spot to fischer, since he had
a legitimate claim to it, and fischer did not.
dave
David Hanley
Iago wrote:
> --Benko did make him a big favor, but other than that, I wouldn't say he was
> treated better than most players. He was pretty much alone against the
> system. That being said, the last 7 years haven't been exactly "lucky" ones
> for Bobby, eh?
What exactly is poor luck, rather than stupidity?
>
> selecting a jewish criminals while
> >ignoring many others,
>
> --The Jewish media does that all the time. Take the example of the shooting
> in that Jewish youth center in LA. A nut shot and injured 5 kids and 1
> adult. The story was everywhere in the national media, and sympathy poured
> in for those victims and their loved ones. That event was indeed tragic.
> Meanwhile, last May, a deranged killer plowed his car into a group of
> preschoolers near Los Angeles, killing two children and injuring five other
> people. The murderer, Steven Abrams, told police the carnage was meant to be
> a statement to an old girlfriend. "He felt (the children) were innocent so
> they would make a larger statement for whatever turmoil he was having in his
> relationship," according to a police spokesman. The event got little
> publicity outside the Los Angeles area.
Ok, sure. But there have been a lot of shootings with no jewish people
involved that have gotten *tons* of publicity. Have you observed the news
recently? Someone walkign into a public place and opening fire touches a
nerve.
> and blaming events of jews they had nothing to do with.
>
> --Examples?
Gee, the russian pohgrums, for example.
>
>
> >That is mixed with reams of paranoid fantasy.
>
> --Examples?
Deporting white americans, for starters.
dave
David Hanley
Iago wrote:
> David Hanley wrote in message <37BC6379...@ncgr.org>...
> >
> >
> >Iago wrote:
> >
> >> Vince Waciuk wrote in message <37BAF6EB...@sprint.ca>...
> >>
> >> >4. You think that Bobby Fischer's recent interviews are really cool.
> >>
> >> --Would you mind if I came to you house while you were away and stole all
> >> your stuff?
> >
> >Are you inferring this happened to fischer? i thought he had his things
> >in storage, didn;t pay the rent, and it got confiscated by the owner of the
> >rental. This happens all the time.
> >
>
> --Well, Bob Elsworth didn't pay the rent. If you send money to an employee
> who is supposed to take care of the monthly bill(s) and he decides not to
> pay them, that's a crime.
Then you'd think a reasonable person would pusrue that in a court of
law, rather than blame a conspiracy, wouldn't you?
>
> >
> >Fischer was warned that breaking the embargo would do this,
>
> --Only once he got to Yugoslavia, to my knowledge (I could be wrong though).
You are wrong.
>
>
> Furthermore, there is
> >no exile; he is free to return and straighten things out.
> >
>
> --Again, are you serious? Free to return? Straighten things out? Boy, you
> don't know much about politics and the judicial system...
I might say the same about you. but I'm not the one implicating
a conspiracy you and a few others have cooked up.
dave
Adamski
writes
>
>
>Adamski wrote:
>
>> In article <37BC676D...@ncgr.org>, David Hanley <d...@ncgr.org>
>> writes
>> >He is not unlucky in the least.
>> >He got a lot of breaks, such as people like benko and reshevsky ceding
>> >spots for him to play in the championshiop
>>
>> For which 'championshiop' did Reshevsky cede his spot to Fischer?
>
>Reshevsky had to agree
Had to agree? You mean he was compelled by somebody or something?
> to cede a zonal spot to fischer
A zonal spot? Which Zonal exactly? And if you meant Interzonal, which
Interzonal exactly? And a reference would be also be appreciated.
David Hanley
Adamski wrote:
> In article <37BD7B18...@ncgr.org>, David Hanley <d...@ncgr.org>
> writes
> >
> >
> >Adamski wrote:
> >
> >> In article <37BC676D...@ncgr.org>, David Hanley <d...@ncgr.org>
> >> writes
> >> >He is not unlucky in the least.
> >> >He got a lot of breaks, such as people like benko and reshevsky ceding
> >> >spots for him to play in the championshiop
> >>
> >> For which 'championshiop' did Reshevsky cede his spot to Fischer?
> >
> >Reshevsky had to agree
>
> Had to agree? You mean he was compelled by somebody or something?
No, if you put my sentence back together, it makes sense. If he did not
agree, fischer would not have gone.
>
>
> > to cede a zonal spot to fischer
>
> A zonal spot? Which Zonal exactly? And if you meant Interzonal, which
> Interzonal exactly? And a reference would be also be appreciated.
This is pertty major chess history. It was the one he dominated
en route to his title, winning it 12/13/1970
dave
Ron Moskovitz
Iago <jim...@netrevolution.com> wrote:
>
>--First, I never said I endorsed everything that was on the site. Dismissing
>everything as "tripe" because of a couple of questionable articles isn't
>very smart though. Most of the stuff there has been thoroughly researched
>and comes from reliable sources. Of course, you found an Hitler quote and
>offered it as proof that the whole thing was crap.
The three articles I mentioned were the first three on the site than
I read. Pure random selection. If those were the first three you read,
would you continue reading?
>For some reason, I
>expected you to dismiss it as "tripe". It could be because you're Jewish and
>you don't appreciate anyone trying to question you or your culture.
Nice try, but despite my name I'm not Jewish. Or, at least, no
jews would consider me jewish.
>Who
>knows? I personally don't mind when people expose the evils perpetrated by
>my race and religion. Why can't you do the same?
If that site was a legitimate attempt to show the evils caused by
jews, then it might be worth looking at. But it isn't. Why don't
you point out the specific articles which you think are "well
researched" beacuse, as I said, I'm not going to waste any more
of my time sifting through the crap I saw when I looked there.
As for my willingess to discuss the evils perpetrated by "my people"
you've obviously never had a discussion with me about the state of
Israel.
>My people have probably
>been oppressed just as much as your people, but we never got any freebies
>because of it, nor did we get or own country. Are you ready to say that the
>Bolshevik Revolution (and the subsequent Communist movement) wasn't mostly a
>Jewish affair?
Where there jews involved? Sure. But look at how Communism treated jews.
To call it a "Jewish affair" when Stalin is probably the second-greatest
jew-killer (after Hitler) is just stupid.
>Are you dumb enough to claim that the American media is not
>under Jewish control?
Are there lots of Jews in high media positions? Sure. Is that
the same thing as the media being under "Jewish control?" Absolutely
not. The point you seem to miss is that there isn't a Jewish
conspiracy. The fact that two jews are heads of separate organizations
implies no more collusion between them than the fact that
two episcopaleans are, or the fact that two catholics are.
>You see, I don't have a problem with Jews per se, I
>just have a problem with groups of people who monopolize the higher echelons
>of power and use their influence to insidiously spread their philosophy
>amongst the unsuspecting masses.
And they're doing this, how, exactly? How is judaism being
insidiously spread through the unsuspecting masses?
Adamski
writes
>
>
>Adamski wrote:
>
>> In article <37BD7B18...@ncgr.org>, David Hanley <d...@ncgr.org>
>> writes
>> >
>> >
>> >Adamski wrote:
>> >
>> >> In article <37BC676D...@ncgr.org>, David Hanley <d...@ncgr.org>
>> >> writes
>> >> >He is not unlucky in the least.
>> >> >He got a lot of breaks, such as people like benko and reshevsky ceding
>> >> >spots for him to play in the championshiop
>> >>
>> >> For which 'championshiop' did Reshevsky cede his spot to Fischer?
>> >
>> >Reshevsky had to agree
>>
>> Had to agree? You mean he was compelled by somebody or something?
>
>No, if you put my sentence back together, it makes sense.
I wish you would put them together properly in the first place. As for
sense, Adamski asked a seemingly direct question, in the hope of a
specific answer:
For which 'championshiop' did Reshevsky cede his spot to Fischer?
By way of reply, you tossed off this shambles:
Reshevsky had to agree to cede a zonal spot to fischer, since he had
a legitimate claim to it, and fischer did not.
> If he did not
>agree, fischer would not have gone.
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> > to cede a zonal spot to fischer
>>
>> A zonal spot? Which Zonal exactly? And if you meant Interzonal, which
>> Interzonal exactly? And a reference would be also be appreciated.
>
>This is pertty major chess history. It was the one he dominated
>en route to his title, winning it 12/13/1970
Oh, the Palma de Majorca Interzonal. You've heard of it, I trust.
Now, can I have the reference please which states that Reshevsky ceded
his Interzonal spot to Fischer?
>
>dave
>
David Hanley
Adamski wrote:
> Oh, the Palma de Majorca Interzonal. You've heard of it, I trust.
>
Yes, I even informed you of it. Educating you can be pretty tiring.
> Now, can I have the reference please which states that Reshevsky ceded
> his Interzonal spot to Fischer?
Chess life compilation stated that paticipants in the U.S. championship
which served to seed the zonal were standbys. Fischer did not compete
at all, and therefore was behind all of them, who had to cede spots.
I don't have the issue # but since it took several posts to inform
you about interzonals...
dave
pulgao
>This is pertty major chess history. It was the one he dominated
>en route to his title, winning it 12/13/1970
It was Pal Benko, not Reshevsky, who stepped aside for this one (and
did so voluntarily).
Brady, Profile of a Prodigy (Dover, ISBN 0-486-25925-0), p. 173-174.
-- Steve Lopez
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Hangar/5176/index.html
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/chesskamikazes
Adamski
<rm...@netcom.com> writes
>In article <kC7v3.623$mV.4...@wagner.videotron.net>,
>Iago <jim...@netrevolution.com> wrote:
>>
>>--First, I never said I endorsed everything that was on the site. Dismissing
>>everything as "tripe" because of a couple of questionable articles isn't
>>very smart though. Most of the stuff there has been thoroughly researched
>>and comes from reliable sources. Of course, you found an Hitler quote and
>>offered it as proof that the whole thing was crap.
>
>
> The three articles I mentioned were the first three on the site than
>I read. Pure random selection.
Depends what you mean by random, I guess.
> Nice try, but despite my name I'm not Jewish. Or, at least, no
>jews would consider me jewish.
>
> Where there jews involved? Sure. But look at how Communism treated jews.
Look at how Communism treated Communists.
>To call it a "Jewish affair" when Stalin is probably the second-greatest
>jew-killer (after Hitler) is just stupid.
With regard to Stalin, what data are you relying on?
>
>
>>Are you dumb enough to claim that the American media is not
>>under Jewish control?
>
> Are there lots of Jews in high media positions? Sure. Is that
>the same thing as the media being under "Jewish control?" Absolutely
>not. The point you seem to miss is that there isn't a Jewish
>conspiracy.
How would we know if there was?
> The fact that two jews are heads of separate organizations
>implies no more collusion between them than the fact that
>two episcopaleans are, or the fact that two catholics are.
This is such a palpably weak argument.
Adamski
writes
>
>
The real issue here, sidestepping your colossal ignorance, is that
Reshevsky disliked Fischer, and, I dare to suggest, wouldn't have ceded
Fischer his place in a month of Sabbaths.
BTW are you an American?
Jeroen ;-}
be the moment I get silenced out of sheer impression.
Bending this thread from "patzer top ten" to "fischer" you already
achieved - Kudos, although not impressing :-).
But now the next step, bend it to "tips for home cooking an low carbon fats"
and then to the question "has Fischer a wok fetisj?"
That would make my day.
I guess Pete G. is glad to provide us with some serious input inthis matter.
Or else go to vacuum tubes. But nah, that has been done before :-)
--
Jeroen ;-}
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famous first words: "do you understand this thread?" Pope Woytila in his
opening speech at the christmas message to the cardinals at Rome
Todd
pulgao wrote:
> David Hanley <d...@ncgr.org> was alleged to have uttered:
>
> >This is pertty major chess history. It was the one he dominated
> >en route to his title, winning it 12/13/1970
>
> It was Pal Benko, not Reshevsky, who stepped aside for this one (and
> did so voluntarily).
I was just reading a book a couple of weeks ago that made the claim that
several people had to step aside to allow Fischer to play in the Palma
de Majorca Interzonal. (I believe it was implied that everyone who had
played in the US Championship, which was also the zonal, had to agree to
step down.) The book was either Gligoric's book on the 1972 WC match or
... or ... damn I can't remember, and I took them back to the library
yesterday. It was an american author though. Horowitz mabe? I found a
few other errors in that book however, so I recommend this information
be taken with a grain of salt. (Which you should do anyway since I can't
remember which damn book it was!) Does anyone have access to any
american chess mags from that time?
Todd
[snip]
Dave Gertler
Times Report on the Chess Match of the Century_, by Richard Roberts, Harold
C. Schonberg, Al Horowitz and Samuel Reshevsky.
Reshevsky finished first in the 1969 US Championship, which also served as a
zonal. William Addison was second, and Benko was third. According to the
book, one of the three -- plus the players who finished fourth, fifth,
sixth, seventh, and eighth -- had to step aside if Fischer were to be
allowed into the interzonal. Benko agreed to do so, and the other necessary
players followed.
In other words, if we assume this account is true, half a dozen players
(starting with Benko) did have to step aside, but Reshevsky was not among
them.
--Dave Gertler
Todd
Todd
Fred G.
Iago <jim...@netrevolution.com> wrote in message news:%oMu3.3584>
> As for Fischer's ranting about the Jews and the evils they have
perpetrated
> throughout history, one only has to do some research to find the truth. A
> few issues are highly debatable, but some facts remain... The problem
> nowadays is that even stating a fact will be interpreted as racist and
> hateful by some. I encourage everyone here to go to:
> http://www.wpww.com/jewwatch/index.html
> Inform yourselves and make up your mind afterwards. You'll find
interesting
> stuff about the Bolshevik Revolution, Jewish racist beliefs (the talmud
> provides countless examples), the zionist occupied goverments, the Jewish
> control over the media, etc. I'm not an anti-semite, nor am I a nazi. I'm
> simply an informed citizen. Unfortunately, we live in a politically
correct
> society where we're not supposed to tell the truth.
Thanks for sharing your deep insights and awesome intelligence.
I bet you're a big hit with the girls, too!
--
Fred Gumminger
New Jersey, USA
"What's so funny 'bout peace, love & understanding?"
-Nick Lowe
"Why must I lose to this idiot?!?!"
-A. Nimzowitsch
pulgao
>I was just reading about this whole issue in _Fischer/Spassky: The New York
>Times Report on the Chess Match of the Century_, by Richard Roberts, Harold
>C. Schonberg, Al Horowitz and Samuel Reshevsky.
>
>Reshevsky finished first in the 1969 US Championship, which also served as a
>zonal. William Addison was second, and Benko was third. According to the
>book, one of the three -- plus the players who finished fourth, fifth,
>sixth, seventh, and eighth -- had to step aside if Fischer were to be
>allowed into the interzonal. Benko agreed to do so, and the other necessary
>players followed.
>
>In other words, if we assume this account is true, half a dozen players
>(starting with Benko) did have to step aside, but Reshevsky was not among
>them.
>
Brady mentions Benko specifically, mentions Bill Lombardy in passing,
but makes it unclear whether both players or only Benko stepped down
in order to let Fischer play (which is why I mentioned Benko).
Ron Moskovitz
Adamski <mic...@mobius1.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>Are you dumb enough to claim that the American media is not
>>>under Jewish control?
>>
>> Are there lots of Jews in high media positions? Sure. Is that
>>the same thing as the media being under "Jewish control?" Absolutely
>>not. The point you seem to miss is that there isn't a Jewish
>>conspiracy.
>
>How would we know if there was?
Why should we think there's a reason to bother looking for evidence?
>> The fact that two jews are heads of separate organizations
>>implies no more collusion between them than the fact that
>>two episcopaleans are, or the fact that two catholics are.
>
>This is such a palpably weak argument.
Really? I'd like to know why a few jews in high places is
evidence of a conspiracy, while a few non-jews of similar
race or religious beliefs isn't.
Please don't tell me you've bought in to all this, too, Adamski.
-Ron
Chesspride
>It was Pal Benko, not Reshevsky, who stepped aside for this one (and
>did so voluntarily).
>
>
>
>http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Hangar/5176/index.html
>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/chesskamikazes
>
>
My understanding is that ALL the players in the Zonal (even the one who
finished last) had to agree to this....not just Benko.
Eric C. Johnson
Don C. Aldrich
>
>My understanding is that ALL the players in the Zonal (even the one who
>finished last) had to agree to this....not just Benko.
>
>Eric C. Johnson
yes, this is correct. Under the rules, if a qualifier did not go,
then the next highest finishing player took his spot. Thus, if Benko
was not going to play, then all the players after Benko would have the
opportunity to participate before Fischer. Theoretically, all US
Champs post Fischer also were qualified before him.
However, this is all kind of moot, as Benko's position was he was
willing to give up his spot for Fischer only. Thus, if someone else
had tried to claim the spot, Benko would have gone. This was all
agreed to prior to Benko's relinquishing the spot.
So, while some credit is due to everyone who waived their claim, the
lion's share goes to Benko [and of course, Ed Edmondson for making it
all work]. I think it is pretty clear that had Benko not agreed to
this, Fischer never would have become world champ.
Best,
==Dondo
"He thinks too much. Such men are dangerous."
Julius Caesar, Act I, Sc. 2.
Iago
Ron Moskovitz wrote in message <7pk930$8...@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>...
>>For some reason, I
>>expected you to dismiss it as "tripe". It could be because you're Jewish
and
>>you don't appreciate anyone trying to question you or your culture.
>
> Nice try, but despite my name I'm not Jewish. Or, at least, no
>jews would consider me jewish.
>
--I sincerely apologize for that. With a name like yours, one can easily be
fooled...
>
>>Who
>>knows? I personally don't mind when people expose the evils perpetrated by
>>my race and religion. Why can't you do the same?
>
> If that site was a legitimate attempt to show the evils caused by
>jews, then it might be worth looking at. But it isn't. Why don't
>you point out the specific articles which you think are "well
>researched" beacuse, as I said, I'm not going to waste any more
>of my time sifting through the crap I saw when I looked there.
>
--Crap? Here are 4 articles that I found very interesting:
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1)
THE FRANKLIN PROPHECY
Recorded by Charles Coteworth Pinckney
Delegate to the Constitutional Convention of 1787
(This prophecy, by Benjamin Franklin, was made in a "CHIT CHAT AROUND THE
TABLE DURING INTERMISSION," at the Philadelphia Constitutional Convention of
1787. This statement was recorded in the dairy of Charles Cotesworth
Pinckney, a delegate from South Carolina.)
"I fully agree with General Washington, that we must protect this young
nation from an insidious influence and impenetration. The menace, gentlemen,
is the Jews.
"In whatever country Jews have settled in any great number, they have
lowered its moral tone; depreciated its commercial integrity; have
segregated themselves and have not been assimilated; have sneered at and
tried to undermine the Christian religion upon which that nation is founded,
by objecting to its restrictions; have built up a state within the state;
and when opposed have tried to strangle that country to death financially,
as in the case of Spain and Portugal.
"For over 1,700 years, the Jews have been bewailing their sad fate in that
they have been exiled from their homeland, as they call Palestine. But
gentlemen, did the world give it to them in fee simple, they would at once
find some reason for not returning. Why? Because they are vampires, and
vampires do not live on vampires. They cannot live only among themselves.
They must subsist on Christians and other people not of their race.
"If you do not exclude them from these United States, in their Constitution,
in less than 200 years they will have swarmed here in such great numbers
that they will dominate and devour the land and change our form of
government, for which we Americans have shed our blood, given our lives our
substance and jeopardized our liberty.
"If you do not exclude them, in less than 200 years our descendants will be
working in the fields to furnish them substance, while they will be in the
counting houses rubbing their hands. I warn you, gentlemen, if you do not
exclude Jews for all time, your children will curse you in your graves.
"Jews, gentlemen, are Asiatics, let them be born where they will nor how
many generations they are away from Asia, they will never be otherwise.
Their ideas do not conform to an American's, and will not even thou they
live among us ten generations. A leopard cannot change its spots. Jews are
Asiatics, are a menace to this country if permitted entrance, and should be
excluded by this Constitutional Convention."
-Benjamin Franklin, 1787, at The Constitutional Convention, Philadelphia,
Pennsylvania
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2)
The Alien Grip on Our
News and Entertainment Media Must Be Broken
Who Rules America?
By the Research Staff of National Vanguard Magazine
PO Box 330, Hillsboro, West Virginia 24946 USA. FAX# 304-653-4690
There is no greater power in the world today than that wielded by the
manipulators of public opinion in America. No king or pope of old, no
conquering general or high priest ever disposed of a power even remotely
approaching that of the few dozen men who control America's mass news and
entertainment media.
Their power is not distant and impersonal; it reaches into every home in
America, and it works its will during nearly every waking hour. It is the
power which shapes and molds the mind of virtually every citizen, young or
old, rich or poor, simple or sophisticated.
The mass media form for us our image of the world and then tell us what to
think about that image. Essentially everything we know -- or think we
know -- about events outside our own neighborhood or circle of acquaintances
comes to us via our daily newspaper, our weekly news magazine, our radio, or
our television.
It is not just the heavy-handed suppression of certain news stories from our
newspapers or the blatant propagandizing of history-distorting TV
"docudramas" which characterizes the opinion-manipulating techniques of the
media masters. They exercise both subtlety and thoroughness in their
management of both the news and the entertainment which they present to us.
For example, the way in which the news is covered: which items are
emphasized and which are played down, the reporter's choice of words, tone
of voice, and facial expressions; the wording of headlines; the choice of
illustrations -- all of these things subliminally and yet profoundly affect
the way in which we interpret what we see or hear.
On top of this, of course, the columnists and editors remove any remaining
doubt from our minds as to just what we are to think about it all. Employing
carefully developed psychological techniques, they guide our thought and
opinion so that we can be in tune with the "in" crowd, the "beautiful
people," the "smart money." They let us know exactly what our attitudes
should be toward various types of people and behavior by placing those
people or that behavior in the context of a TV drama or situation comedy and
having the other TV characters react to them in the Politically Correct way.
Molding American Minds
For example, a racially mixed couple will be respected, liked, and socially
sought after by other characters, as will a "take charge" Black scholar or
businessman, or a sensitive and talented homosexual, or a poor but honest
and hardworking illegal alien from Mexico. On the other hand, a White
racist -- that is, any racially conscious White person who looks askance at
miscegenation or at the rapidly darkening racial situation in America -- is
portrayed, at best, as a despicable bigot who is reviled by the other
characters, or, at worst, as a dangerous psychopath who is fascinated by
firearms and is a menace to all law-abiding citizens. The White racist "gun
nut," in fact, has become a familiar stereotype on TV shows.
The average American, of whose daily life TV-watching takes such an
unhealthy portion, distinguishes between these fictional situations and
reality only with difficulty, if at all. He responds to the televised
actions, statements, and attitudes of TV actors much as he does to his own
peers in real life. For all too many Americans the real world has been
replaced by the false reality of the TV environment, and it is to this false
reality that his urge to conform responds. Thus, when a TV scriptwriter
expresses approval of some ideas and actions through the TV characters for
whom he is writing, and disapproval of others, he exerts a powerful pressure
on millions of viewers toward conformity with his own views.
And as it is with TV entertainment, so it is also with the news, whether
televised or printed. The insidious thing about this form of thought control
is that even when we realize that entertainment or news is biased, the media
masters still are able to manipulate most of us. This is because they not
only slant what they present, but they establish tacit boundaries and ground
rules for the permissible spectrum of opinion.
As an example, consider the media treatment of Middle East news. Some
editors or commentators are slavishly pro-Israel in their every utterance,
while others seem nearly neutral. No one, however, dares suggest that the
U.S. government is backing the wrong side in the Arab-Jewish conflict and
that it served Jewish interests rather than American interests to send U.S.
forces to cripple Iraq, Israel's principal rival in the Middle East. Thus, a
spectrum of permissible opinion, from pro-Israel to nearly neutral, is
established.
Another example is the media treatment of racial issues in the United
States. Some commentators seem almost dispassionate in reporting news of
racial strife, while others are emotionally partisan -- with the
partisanship always on the non-White side. All of the media spokesmen
without exception, however, take the position that "multiculturalism" and
racial mixing are here to stay, and that they are good things.
Because there are differences in degree, however, most Americans fail to
realize that they are being manipulated. Even the citizen who complains
about "managed news" falls into the trap of thinking that because he is
presented with an apparent spectrum of opinion he can escape the thought
controllers' influence by believing the editor or commentator of his choice.
It's a "heads I win, tails you lose" situation. Every point on the
permissible spectrum of public opinion is acceptable to the media masters --
and no impermissible fact or viewpoint is allowed any exposure at all, if
they can prevent it.
The control of the opinion-molding media is nearly monolithic. All of the
controlled media -- television, radio, newspapers, magazines, books, motion
pictures -- speak with a single voice, each reinforcing the other. Despite
the appearance of variety, there is no real dissent, no alternative source
of facts or ideas accessible to the great mass of people which might allow
them to form opinions at odds with those of the media masters. They are
presented with a single view of the world -- a world in which every voice
proclaims the equality of the races, the inerrant nature of the Jewish
"Holocaust" tale, the wickedness of attempting to halt a flood of non-White
aliens from pouring across our borders, the danger of permitting citizens to
keep and bear arms, the moral equivalence of all sexual orientations, and
the desirability of a "pluralistic," cosmopolitan society rather than a
homogeneous one. It is a view of the world designed by the media masters to
suit their own ends -- and the pressure to conform to that view is
overwhelming. People adapt their opinions to it, vote in accord with it, and
shape their lives to fit it.
And who are these all-powerful masters of the media? As we shall see, to a
very large extent they are Jews.
Electronic News & Entertainment Media
Continuing government deregulation of the telecommunications industry has
resulted, not in the touted increased competition, but rather in an
accelerating wave of corporate mergers and acquisitions that have produced a
handful of multi-billion-dollar media conglomerates. Whenever you watch
television, whether from a local broadcasting station or via a cable or
satellite dish; whenever you see a feature film in a theater or at home;
whenever you listen to the radio or recorded music; whenever you read a
newspaper, book, or magazine -- it is very likely that the information or
entertainment you receive was produced and/or distributed by one of these
megamedia companies.
The largest media conglomerate today, with 1997 revenues of $23 billion, is
the Walt Disney Company. Its chairman and CEO, Michael Eisner, is a Jew. The
Disney empire, headed by a man described by one media analyst as "a control
freak," includes several television production companies (Walt Disney
Television, Touchstone Television, Buena Vista Television) and cable
networks with more than 100 million subscribers altogether.
As for feature films, the Walt Disney Picture Group, headed by Joe Roth
(also a Jew), includes Touchstone Pictures, Hollywood Pictures, and Caravan
Pictures. Disney also owns Miramax Films, run by the Weinstein brothers, who
have produced such ultra-raunchy movies as The Crying Game, Priest, and
Kids.
When the Disney Company was run by the Gentile Disney family prior to its
takeover by Eisner in 1984, it epitomized wholesome, family entertainment.
While it still holds the rights to Snow White, under Eisner the company has
expanded into the production of a great deal of so-called "adult" material.
In addition to TV and movies, the corporation owns Disneyland, Disney World,
Epcot Center, Tokyo Disneyland, and Euro Disney.
Disney also sells annually well over a billion dollars worth of consumer
products -- books, toys, and clothing -- through 636 Disney stores. In
August 1995 Eisner acquired Capital Cities/ABC, Inc, which owns the ABC
Television Network, which in turn owns ten TV stations outright in such big
markets as New York, Chicago, Philadelphia, Los Angeles, San Francisco, and
Houston. In addition, it has 225 affiliated stations in the United States
and is part owner of several European TV companies.
ABC's cable subsidiary, ESPN, is headed by president and CEO Steven
Bornstein, who is a Jew. The corporation also has a controlling share of
Lifetime Television and the Arts & Entertainment Network cable companies.
ABC Radio Network owns 26 AM and FM stations, again in major cities such as
New York, Washington, and Los Angeles, and has over 3,400 affiliates.
Although primarily a telecommunications company, Capital Cities/ABC earned
over $1 billion in publishing in 1997. It owns seven daily newspapers,
Fairchild Publications (Women's Wear Daily), Chilton Publications
(automotive manuals), and the Diversified Publishing Group.
Time Warner, Inc., with 1997 revenues of more than $13 billion, is the
second of the international media leviathans. Time Warner leapfrogged over
the Walt Disney Company to first place among media giants when it acquired
Turner Broadcasting System in 1996, but it slipped back into second place in
1997. The chairman of the board and CEO of Time Warner, Gerald M. Levin, is
a Jew. Time Warner's subsidiary HBO is the country's largest pay-TV cable
network.
Until the purchase in May 1998 of PolyGram by Edgar Bronfman, Jr., Warner
Music was America's largest record company, with 50 labels, the biggest of
which is Warner Brothers Record. Warner Music was an early promoter of
"gangsta rap." Through its involvement with Interscope Records (prior to
Interscope's acquisition by MCA) it helped popularize a genre whose graphic
lyrics explicitly urge Blacks to commit acts of violence against Whites.
In addition to cable and music, Time Warner is heavily involved in the
production of feature films (Warner Brothers Studio, Castle Rock
Entertainment, and New Line Cinema) and publishing. Time Warner's publishing
division (editor-in-chief Norman Pearlstine, a Jew) is the largest magazine
publisher in the country (Time, Sports Illustrated, People, Fortune).
The deal which temporarily made Gerald Levin number-one media magnate -- the
acquisition of Ted Turner's Turner Broadcasting System -- also took one of
the few remaining Gentiles out of the top ranks of media bosses. When Ted
Turner, the Gentile media maverick, made a bid to buy CBS in 1985, there was
panic in media boardrooms across the nation. Turner had made a fortune in
advertising and then had built a successful cable-TV news network, CNN.
Although Turner employed a number of Jews in key executive positions in CNN
and had never taken public positions contrary to Jewish interests, he is a
man with a large ego and a strong personality and was regarded by Chairman
William Paley and the other Jews at CBS as uncontrollable: a loose cannon
who might at some time in the future turn against them. Furthermore, Jewish
newsman Daniel Schorr, who had worked for Turner, publicly charged that his
former boss held a personal dislike for Jews.
To block Turner's bid CBS executives invited billionaire Jewish theater,
hotel, insurance, and cigarette magnate Laurence Tisch to launch a
"friendly" takeover of the company, and from 1986 till 1995 Tisch was the
chairman and CEO of CBS, removing any threat of non-Jewish influence there.
Subsequent efforts by Turner to acquire a major network have been obstructed
by Levin's Time Warner, which owns nearly 20 percent of CBS stock and has
veto power over major deals.
Thus, despite being an innovator and garnering headlines, Turner never
commanded the "connections" required to be a true media master. He finally
decided, if you can't lick 'em, join 'em, and he sold out to Levin.
Number three on the list, with 1997 revenues of just over $13 billion, is
Viacom, Inc, headed by Sumner Redstone (born Murray Rothstein). Viacom,
which produces and distributes TV programs for the three largest networks,
owns 13 television stations and 12 radio stations. It produces feature films
through Paramount Pictures, headed by Jewess Sherry Lansing.
Its publishing division includes Simon & Schuster, Scribner, The Free Press,
and Pocket Books. It distributes videos through over 4,000 Blockbuster
stores. It is also involved in satellite broadcasting, theme parks, and
video games.
Viacom's chief claim to fame, however, is as the world's largest provider of
cable programming, through its Showtime, MTV, Nickelodeon, and other
networks. Since 1989 MTV and Nickelodeon have acquired larger and larger
shares of the juvenile television audience. Redstone, who actually owns 76
per cent of the shares of Viacom, until recently offered Beavis and Butthead
as teen role models and currently is the largest single purveyor of
race-mixing propaganda to White teenagers and sub-teens in America and
Europe. MTV pumps its racially mixed rock and rap videos into 210 million
homes in 71 countries and is the dominant cultural influence on White
teenagers around the world.
Nickelodeon has by far the largest share of the four-to-11-year-old TV
audience in America and also is expanding rapidly into Europe. Most of its
shows do not yet display the blatant degeneracy which is MTV's trademark,
but Redstone is gradually nudging the fare presented to his kiddie viewers
toward the same poison purveyed by MTV.
The new boy on the megamedia block is Edgar Bronfman, Jr., president and CEO
of Seagram Company, Ltd., the liquor giant. His father, Edgar Bronfman, Sr.,
is president of the World Jewish Congress. Seagram owns two large production
companies, MCA and Universal Pictures (now merged under the name Universal
Studios). Among its many other properties, MCA owns Interscope Records, the
foremost promoter of "gangsta rap."
Bronfman became the biggest man in the record business in May 1998 when he
also acquired control of PolyGram, the European record giant, by paying
$10.6 billion to the Dutch electronics manufacturer Philips. With the
expected revenue from PolyGram added to that from MCA and Universal,
Bronfman will have the fourth largest media empire, with annual revenues
around $12 billion. One especially unfortunate aspect of the PolyGram
acquisition is that it gives Bronfman control of the world's largest
producer of classical music CDs: PolyGram owns the Deutsche Grammophon,
Decca-London, and Philips record companies.
With the top four media conglomerates in the hands of Jews, it is difficult
to believe that such an overwhelming degree of control came about without a
deliberate, concerted effort on their part.
What about the other big media companies?
Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation, which owns Fox Television Network, 20th
Century Fox Films, and Fox 2000, is the fifth largest megamedia corporation
in the country, with 1997 revenues of over $11 billion. It is the only other
media company which comes even close to the top four. Murdoch is a Gentile
Australian, but Peter Chernin, who is president and CEO of Fox Group, which
includes all of News Corporation's film, television, and publishing
operations in the United States, is a Jew. Under Chernin, as chairman of Fox
2000, is Laura Ziskin, a Jewess. Jew Peter Roth works under Chernin as
president of Fox Entertainment. News Corporation also owns the New York Post
and TV Guide, and they are published under Chernin's supervision.
Most of the television and movie production companies that are not owned by
the largest corporations are also controlled by Jews. For example, New World
Entertainment, proclaimed by one media analyst as "the premiere independent
TV program producer in the United States," is owned by Ronald Perelman, a
Jew who also owns Revlon cosmetics and offered a job to Monica Lewinsky when
Bill Clinton was trying to keep her quiet.
The best known of the smaller media companies, DreamWorks SKG, is a strictly
kosher affair. DreamWorks was formed in 1994 amid great media hype by
recording industry mogul David Geffen, former Disney Pictures chairman
Jeffrey Katzenberg, and film director Steven Spielberg, all three of whom
are Jews. The company produces movies, animated films, television programs,
and recorded music. Considering the cash and connections that Geffen,
Katzenberg, and Spielberg have, DreamWorks may soon be in the same league as
the big four.
It is well known that Jews have controlled the production and distribution
of films since the inception of the movie industry in the early decades of
this century. This is still the case today.
Films produced by just the four largest motion picture companies mentioned
above -- Disney, Warner Brothers, Paramount (Viacom), and Universal
(Seagram) -- accounted for two-thirds of the total box-office receipts for
the year 1997.
The big three in television network broadcasting used to be ABC, CBS, and
NBC. With the consolidation of the media empires, these three are no longer
independent entities. While they were independent, however, each was
controlled by a Jew since its inception: ABC by Leonard Goldenson, CBS first
by William Paley and then by Laurence Tisch, and NBC first by David Sarnoff
and then by his son Robert. Over periods of several decades these networks
were staffed from top to bottom with Jews, and the essential Jewishness of
network television did not change when the networks were absorbed by other
corporations. The Jewish presence in television news remains particularly
strong.
For example, the executive producers of all three of the main network news
programs are Jews. The executive producer of ABC's World News Tonight with
Peter Jennings is Paul Friedman. The executive producer of NBC Nightly News
with Tom Brokaw is Neal Shapiro. The executive producer of CBS Evening News
with Dan Rather is Al Oritz. If you prefer CBS This Morning News instead,
the executive producer is Al Berman, who also is a Jew. Or if you get your
news from CNN, the boss there is Rick Kaplan, also a Jew.
The Print Media
After television news, daily newspapers are the most influential information
medium in America. Sixty million of them are sold (and presumably read) each
day. These millions are divided among some 1,500 different publications. One
might conclude that the sheer number of different newspapers across America
would provide a safeguard against minority control and distortion. Alas,
such is not the case. There is less independence, less competition, and much
less representation of majority interests than a casual observer would
think.
The days when most cities and even towns had several independently owned
newspapers published by local people with close ties to the community are
gone. Today most "local" newspapers are owned by a rather small number of
large companies controlled by executives who live and work hundreds or even
thousands of miles away. The fact is that only about 25 per cent of the
country's 1,500 papers are independently owned; the rest belong to
multi-newspaper chains. Only 100 of the total number have circulations of
more than 100,000. Only a handful are large enough to maintain independent
reporting staffs outside their own communities; the rest must depend on
these few for all of their national and international news.
In only 50 cities in America are there more than one daily newspaper, and
competition is frequently nominal even among them, as between morning and
afternoon editions under the same ownership. Examples of this are the
Huntsville, Alabama, morning News and afternoon Times; the Birmingham,
Alabama, morning Post Herald and afternoon News; the Mobile, Alabama,
morning Register and afternoon Press; the Springfield, Massachusetts,
morning Union, afternoon News, and Sunday-only Republican; the Syracuse, New
York, morning Post-Standard and afternoon Herald-Journal -- all owned by the
Jewish Newhouse brothers through their holding company, Advance
Publications.
The Newhouse media empire provides an example of more than the lack of real
competition among America's daily newspapers: it also illustrates the
insatiable appetite Jews have shown for all the organs of opinion control on
which they could fasten their grip. The Newhouses own 26 daily newspapers,
including several large and important ones, such as the Cleveland Plain
Dealer, the Newark Star-Ledger, and the New Orleans Times-Picayune; Newhouse
Broadcasting, consisting of 12 television broadcasting stations and 87
cable-TV systems, including some of the country's largest cable networks;
the Sunday supplement Parade, with a circulation of more than 22 million
copies per week; some two dozen major magazines, including the New Yorker,
Vogue, Mademoiselle, Glamour, Vanity Fair, Bride's, Gentlemen's Quarterly,
Self, House & Garden, and all the other magazines of the wholly owned Conde
Nast group.
This Jewish media empire was founded by the late Samuel Newhouse, an
immigrant from Russia. When he died in 1979 at the age of 84, he bequeathed
media holdings worth an estimated $1.3 billion to his two sons, Samuel and
Donald. With a number of further acquisitions, the net worth of Advance
Publications has grown to more than $8 billion today.
The gobbling up of so many newspapers by the Newhouse family was in large
degree made possible by the fact that newspapers are not supported by their
subscribers, but by their advertisers. It is advertising revenue -- not the
small change collected from a newspaper's readers -- that largely pays the
editor's salary and yields the owner's profit.
Whenever the large advertisers in a city choose to favor one newspaper over
another with their business, the favored newspaper will flourish while its
competitor dies. Since the beginning of this century, when Jewish mercantile
power in America became a dominant economic force, there has been a steady
rise in the number of American newspapers in Jewish hands, accompanied by a
steady decline in the number of competing Gentile newspapers -- primarily as
a result of selective advertising policies by Jewish merchants.
Furthermore, even those newspapers still under Gentile ownership and
management are so thoroughly dependent upon Jewish advertising revenue that
their editorial and news reporting policies are largely constrained by
Jewish likes and dislikes. It holds true in the newspaper business as
elsewhere that he who pays the piper calls the tune.
Three Jewish Newspapers
The suppression of competition and the establishment of local monopolies on
the dissemination of news and opinion have characterized the rise of Jewish
control over America's newspapers. The resulting ability of the Jews to use
the press as an unopposed instrument of Jewish policy could hardly be better
illustrated than by the examples of the nation's three most prestigious and
influential newspapers: the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, and the
Washington Post. These three, dominating America's financial and political
capitals, are the newspapers which set the trends and the guidelines for
nearly all the others. They are the ones which decide what is news and what
isn't, at the national and international levels. They originate the news;
the others merely copy it. And all three newspapers are in Jewish hands.
The New York Times is the unofficial social, fashion, entertainment,
political, and cultural guide of the nation. It tells America's "smart set"
which books to buy and which films to see; which opinions are in style at
the moment; which politicians, educators, spiritual leaders, artists, and
businessmen are the real comers. And for a few decades in the last century
it was a genuinely American newspaper.
The New York Times was founded in 1851 by two Gentiles, Henry J. Raymond and
George Jones. After their deaths, it was purchased in 1896 from Jones's
estate by a wealthy Jewish publisher, Adolph Ochs. His great-great-grandson,
Arthur Sulzberger, Jr., is the paper's current publisher and the chairman of
the New York Times Co. The executive editor is Joseph Lelyveld, also a Jew
(he is a rabbi's son).
The Sulzberger family also owns, through the New York Times Co., 33 other
newspapers, including the Boston Globe, purchased in June 1993 for $1.1
billion; twelve magazines, including McCall's and Family Circle with
circulations of more than 5 million each; seven radio and TV broadcasting
stations; a cable-TV system; and three book publishing companies. The New
York Times News Service transmits news stories, features, and photographs
from the New York Times by wire to 506 other newspapers, news agencies, and
magazines.
Of similar national importance is the Washington Post, which, by
establishing its "leaks" throughout government agencies in Washington, has
an inside track on news involving the Federal government.
The Washington Post, like the New York Times, had a non-Jewish origin. It
was established in 1877 by Stilson Hutchins, purchased from him in 1905 by
John R. McLean, and later inherited by Edward B. McLean. In June 1933,
however, at the height of the Great Depression, the newspaper was forced
into bankruptcy. It was purchased at a bankruptcy auction by Eugene Meyer, a
Jewish financier and former partner of the infamous Bernard Baruch, industry
czar in America during the First World War.
The Washington Post is now run by Katherine Meyer Graham, Eugene Meyer's
daughter. She is the principal stockholder and the board chairman of the
Washington Post Co. In 1979 she appointed her son Donald publisher of the
paper. He now also holds the posts of president and CEO of the Washington
Post Co.
The Washington Post Co. has a number of other media holdings in newspapers,
television, and magazines, most notably the nation's number-two weekly
newsmagazine, Newsweek.
In a joint venture with the New York Times, the Post publishes the
International Herald Tribune, the most widely distributed English language
daily in the world.
The Wall Street Journal, which sells 1.8 million copies each weekday, is the
nation's largest-circulation daily newspaper. It is owned by Dow Jones &
Company, Inc, a New York corporation which also publishes 24 other daily
newspapers and the weekly financial tabloid Barron's, among other things.
The chairman and CEO of Dow Jones is Peter R. Kann, who is a Jew. Kann also
holds the posts of chairman and publisher of the Wall Street Journal.
Most of New York's other major newspapers are in no better hands than the
New York Times and the Wall Street Journal. In January 1993 the New York
Daily News was bought from the estate of the late Jewish media mogul Robert
Maxwell (born Ludvik Hoch) by Jewish real-estate developer Mortimer B.
Zuckerman. The Village Voice is the personal property of Leonard Stern, the
billionaire Jewish owner of the Hartz Mountain pet supply firm. And, as
mentioned above, the New York Post is owned by News Corporation under the
Jew Peter Chernin.
News Magazines
The story is pretty much the same for other media as it is for television,
radio, films, music, and newspapers. Consider, for example, newsmagazines.
There are only three of any note published in the United States: Time,
Newsweek, and U.S. News & World Report.
Time, with a weekly circulation of 4.1 million, is published by a subsidiary
of Time Warner Communications, the new media conglomerate formed by the 1989
merger of Time, Inc, with Warner Communications. The CEO of Time Warner
Communications, as mentioned above, is Gerald Levin, a Jew.
Newsweek, as mentioned above, is published by the Washington Post Company,
under the Jewess Katherine Meyer Graham. Its weekly circulation is 3.2
million.
U.S. News & World Report, with a weekly circulation of 2.3 million, is owned
and published by the aforementioned Mortimer B. Zuckerman, who also has
taken the position of editor-in-chief of the magazine for himself. Zuckerman
also owns the Atlantic Monthly and New York's tabloid newspaper, the Daily
News, which is the sixth-largest paper in the country.
Our Responsibility
Those are the facts of media control in America. Anyone willing to spend a
few hours in a large library looking into current editions of yearbooks on
the radio and television industries and into directories of newspapers and
magazines; into registers of corporations and their officers, such as those
published by Standard and Poors and by Dun and Bradstreet; and into standard
biographical reference works can verify their accuracy. They are undeniable,
and when confronted with them Jewish spokesmen customarily will use evasive
tactics. "Ted Turner isn't a Jew!" they will announce triumphantly, as if
that settled the issue. If pressed further they will accuse the confronter
of "anti-Semitism" for even raising the subject. It is fear of this
accusation which keeps many persons silent who know the facts.
But we must not remain silent on this most important of issues! The Jewish
control of the American mass media is the single most important fact of
life, not just in America, but in the whole world today. There is nothing --
plague, famine, economic collapse, even nuclear war -- more dangerous to the
future of our people.
Jewish media control determines the foreign policy of the United States and
permits Jewish interests rather than American interests to decide questions
of war and peace. Without Jewish media control, there would have been no
Persian Gulf war, for example, and no continued beating of the drums for
another war against Iraq.
By permitting the Jews to control our news and entertainment media we are
doing more than merely giving them a decisive influence on our political
system and virtual control of our government; we also are giving them
control of the minds and souls of our children, whose attitudes and ideas
are shaped more by Jewish television and Jewish films than by parents,
schools, or any other influence.
The Jew-controlled entertainment media have taken the lead in persuading a
whole generation that homosexuality is a normal and acceptable way of life;
that there is nothing at all wrong with White women dating or marrying Black
men, or with White men marrying Asiatic women; that all races are inherently
equal in ability and character -- except that the character of the White
race is suspect because of a history of oppressing other races; and that any
effort by Whites at racial self-preservation is reprehensible.
We must oppose the further spreading of this poison among our people, and we
must break the power of those who are spreading it. It would be intolerable
for such power to be in the hands of any alien minority, with values and
interests different from our own. But to permit the Jews, with their
3,000-year history of nation-wrecking, from ancient Egypt to Russia, to hold
such power over us is tantamount to race suicide. Indeed, the fact that so
many White Americans today are so filled with a sense of racial guilt and
self-hatred that they actively seek the death of their own race is a
deliberate consequence of Jewish media control.
Once we have absorbed and understood the fact of Jewish media control, it is
our inescapable responsibility to do whatever is necessary to break that
control. We must shrink from nothing in combating this evil power which has
fastened its deadly grip on our people and is injecting its lethal poison
into their minds and souls. If we fail to destroy it, it certainly will
destroy our race.
Let us begin now to acquire knowledge and take action toward this necessary
end.
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3)
"CLINTON'S OVERWEHELMINGLY JEWISH GOVERNMENT"
ALTHOUGH JEWS ARE 2% OF THE NATION, THEY ARE 42% OF CLINTON'S GOVERNMENT
CLINTON CONSTRUCTED A JEWISH OCCUPIED AMERICA
09-01-97
JEWS IN CLINTON CABINET
The following is a list (which doesn't include lower staff levels) of
Jews in the Clinton adminstration.
JEWISH PERSON, CABINET POSITION HELD
Madeleine Albright, Secretary of State
Robert Rubin, Secretary of Treasury
William Cohen, Secretary of Defense
Dan Glickman, Secretary of Agriculture
George Tenet, CIA Chief
Louis Freeh, FBI Chief
Samuel Berger, Head National Security Council
Evelyn Lieberman, Deputy Chief of Staff
Stuart Eizenstat, Under Secy. of State
Charlene Barshefsky, U.S. Trade Representative
Susan Thomases, Aide to First Lady
Joel Klein, Asst. Attorney General
Gene Sperling, Nat'l Economic Council
Ira Magaziner, National Health Care
Peter Tarnoff, Deputy Secy. of State
Alice Rivlin, Ecomomic Advisory
Janet Yellen, Chairwoman--Nat'l Economic Council
Rahm Emanuel, Policy Advisor
Doug Sosnik, Counsel to President
Jim Steinberg, Deputy to National Security Chief
Jay Footlik, Special Liason to the Jewish Community (no other group has a
special liason)
Robert Nash, Personal Chief
Jane Sherburne, President's Lawyer
Mark Penn, Asia Expert to NEC
Sandy Kristoff, Health Care Chief
Robert Boorstin, Communications Aide
Keith Boykin, Communications Aide
Jeff Eller, Special Asst. to Clinton
Tom Epstein, Health Care Adviser
Judith Feder, Nat'l Security Council
Richard Feinberg, Asst. Secy. Veterans
Hershel Gober, Food and Drug Admin.
Steve Kessler, White House Counsel
Ron Klein, Asst. Secy. Education
Madeleine Kunin, Communications Aide
David Kusnet, Dept. AIDS Program
Margaret Hamburg, Dir. Press Conferences
Many Grunwald, Liason to Jew Leaders
Karen Adler, Dir. State Dept. Policy
Samuel Lewis, Nat'l Security Council
Stanley Ross, Nat'l Security Council
Dan Schifter, Director Peace Corps.
Eli Segal, Deputy Chief of Staff
David W. Carey, CIA Executive Director
Dr. Ruth David, CIA Deputy Dir--Science & Technology
Here, we see 45 Jews have been appointed to the Cabinet of President
Clinton.
Because Jews are only 2% of the American population, in order to for
non-Jews to have equity of representation in the cabinet, which is only
fair, there would need to be 2,250 non-Jews appointed to cabinet positions
since to achieve equity we would have to dvided 100 percent by 2 percent
(representing the percent of Jews in America) then multiplied times the 45
Jewish Cabinet Position Members listed here to be equally represented in the
Cabinet by their demographic numbers in our nation. The answer is that we
would need 2,250 NEW cabinet positions in order to have fair representation
of non-Jews therein.
This is why the Clinton Government is a "minority government." It is made up
exclusively of minorities instead of majority peoples. According to the
United Nations, all nations shall be ruled by the majority of its citizens
and not, as in South Africa, by a minority.
No one has suggested that America be boycotted.
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4) Some references from the talmud:
Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God
Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be
killed.
O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews
Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him
for work.
Jews Have Superior Legal Status
Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there
is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an
Israelite...the payment is to be in full."
Jews May Steal from Non-Jews
Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile ("heathen") it
does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b). Sanhedrin
76a. God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to an old man or
takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean..."
Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews
Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no
death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.
Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God
has "exposed their money to Israel."
Jews May Lie to Non-Jews
Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile.
Non-Jewish Children are Sub-Human
Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.
Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.
Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.
Insults Against Blessed Mary
Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus' mother was a whore: "She who was the descendant
of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters." Also in
footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b of the Soncino edition, it is stated that in
the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, "Miriam
the hairdresser," had sex with many men.
Gloats over Christ Dying Young
A passage from Sanhedrin 106 gloats over the early age at which Jesus died:
"Hast thou heard how old Balaam (Jesus) was?--He replied: It is not actually
stated but since it is written, Bloody and deceitful men shall not live out
half their days it follows that he was thirty-three or thirty-four years
old."
Jesus in the Talmud:
Horrible Blasphemies Against Jesus Christ
Gittin 57a. Says Jesus is in hell, being boiled in "hot excrement."
Sanhedrin 43a. Says Jesus ("Yeshu" and in Soncino footnote #6, Yeshu "the
Nazarene") was executed because he practiced sorcery: "It is taught that on
the eve of Passover Jesus was hung, and forty days before this the
proclamation was made: Jesus is to be stoned to death because he has
practiced sorcery and has lured the people to idolatry...He was an enticer
and of such thou shalt not pity or condone."
Kallah 51a."The elders were once sitting in the gate when two young lads
passed by; one covered his head and the other uncovered his head. Of him who
uncovered his head Rabbi Eliezer remarked that he is a bastard. Rabbi Joshua
remarked that he is the son of a niddah (a child conceived during a woman's
menstrual period). Rabbi Akiba said that he is both a bastard and a son of a
niddah.
"They said, 'What induced you to contradict the opinion of your colleagues?'
He replied, "I will prove it concerning him." He went to the lad's mother
and found her sitting in the market selling beans.
"He said to her, 'My daughter, if you will answer the question I will put to
you, I will bring you to the world to come.' (eternal life). She said to
him, 'Swear it to me.'
"Rabbi Akiba, taking the oath with his lips but annulling it in his heart,
said to her, 'What is the status of your son?' She replied, 'When I entered
the bridal chamber I was niddah (menstruating) and my husband kept away from
me; but my best man had intercourse with me and this son was born to me.'
Consequently the child was both a bastard and the son of a niddah.
"It was declared, '..Blessed be the God of Israel Who Revealed His Secret to
Rabbi Akiba..."
In addition to the theme that God rewards clever liars, the preceding Talmud
discussion is actually about Jesus Christ (the bastard boy who "uncovered
his head" and was conceived in the filth of menstruation). The boy's
adulterous mother in this Talmud story is the mother of Christ, Blessed Mary
(called Miriam and sometimes, Miriam the hairdresser, in the Talmud).
"The Editio Princeps of the complete Code of Talmudic Law, Maimonides'
Mishneh Torah -- replete not only with the most offensive precepts against
all Gentiles but also with explicit attacks on Christianity and on Jesus
(after whose name the author adds piously, 'May the name of the wicked
perish')... --Dr. Israel Shahak, Jewish History, Jewish Religion, p. 21.
"The Talmud contains a few explicit references to Jesus...These references
are certainly not complimentary...There seems little doubt that the account
of the execution of Jesus on the eve of Passover does refer to the Christian
Jesus...The passage in which Jesus' punishment in hell is described also
seems to refer to the Christian Jesus. It is a piece of anti-Christian
polemic dating from the post-70 CE period..." --Hyam Maccoby, Judaism on
Trial, pp. 26-27.
"According to the Talmud, Jesus was executed by a proper rabbinical court
for idolatry, inciting other Jews to idolatry, and contempt of rabbinical
authority. All classical Jewish sources which mention his execution are
quite happy to take responsibility for it; in the talmudic account the
Romans are not even mentioned.
"The more popular accounts--which were nevertheless taken quite
seriously--such as the notorious Toldot Yeshu are even worse, for in
addition to the above crimes they accuse him of witchcraft. The very name
'Jesus' was for Jews a symbol of all that is abominable and this popular
tradition still persists...
"The Hebrew form of the name Jesus--Yeshu--was interpreted as an acronym for
the curse, 'may his name and memory be wiped out,' which is used as an
extreme form of abuse. In fact, anti-zionist Orthodox Jews (such as Neturey
Qarta) sometimes refer to Herzl as 'Herzl Jesus' and I have found in
religious zionist writings expressions such as "Nasser Jesus" and more
recently 'Arafat Jesus." --Dr. Israel Shahak, Jewish History, Jewish
Religion, pp. 97- 98, 118.
Talmud Attacks Christians and Christian Books
Rosh Hashanah 17a. Christians (minnim) and others who reject the Talmud will
go to hell and be punished there for all generations.
Sanhedrin 90a. Those who read the New Testament ("uncanonical books") will
have no portion in the world to come.
Shabbath 116a. Jews must destroy the books of the Christians, i.e. the New
Testament.
Dr. Israel Shahak of Hebrew University reports that the Israelis burned
hundreds of New Testament Bibles in occupied Palestine on March 23, 1980
(cf. Jewish History, Jewish Religion, p. 21).
Sick and Insane Teachings of the Talmud
Gittin 69a . To heal his flesh a Jew should take dust that lies within the
shadow of an outdoor toilet, mix with honey and eat it.
Shabbath 41a. The law regulating the rule for how to urinate in a holy way
is given.
Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the animals
in the Garden of Eden.
Yebamoth 63a. Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations.
Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three
years "and a day" old).
Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less
than nine years old.
Kethuboth 11b. "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is
nothing."
Yebamoth 59b. A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to marry
a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also eligible to marry
a Jewish priest.
Abodah Zarah 17a. States that there is not a whore in the world that the
Talmudic sage Rabbi Eleazar has not had sex with.
Hagigah 27a. States that no rabbi can ever go to hell.
Baba Mezia 59b. A rabbi debates God and defeats Him. God admits the rabbi
won the debate.
Gittin 70a. The Rabbis taught: "On coming from a privy (outdoor toilet) a
man should not have sexual intercourse till he has waited long enough to
walk half a mile, because the demon of the privy is with him for that time;
if he does, his children will be epileptic."
Gittin 69b. To heal the disease of pleurisy ("catarrh") a Jew should "take
the excrement of a white dog and knead it with balsam, but if he can
possibly avoid it he should not eat the dog's excrement as it loosens the
limbs."
Pesahim 111a. It is forbidden for dogs, women or palm trees to pass between
two men, nor may others walk between dogs, women or palm trees. Special
dangers are involved if the women are menstruating or sitting at a
crossroads.
Menahoth 43b-44a. A Jewish man is obligated to say the following prayer
every day: Thank you God for not making me a gentile, a woman or a slave.
Tall Tales of a Roman Holocaust
Here are two early "Holocaust" tales from the Talmud: Gittin 57b. Claims
that four billion Jews were killed by the Romans in the city of Bethar.
Gittin 58a claims that 16 million Jewish children were wrapped in scrolls
and burned alive by the Romans. (Ancient demography indicates that there
were not 16 million Jews in the entire world at that time, much less 16
million Jewish children or four billion Jews).
A Revealing Admission
Abodah Zarah 70a. The question was asked of the rabbi whether wine stolen in
Pumbeditha might be used or if it was defiled, due to the fact that the
thieves might have been gentiles (a gentile touching wine would make the
wine unclean). The rabbi says not to worry, that the wine is permissible for
Jewish use because the majority of the thieves in Pumbeditha, the place
where the wine was stolen, are Jews. (Also cf. Gemara Rosh Hashanah 25b).
Pharisaic Rituals
Erubin 21b. "Rabbi Akiba said to him, "Give me some water to wash my hands."
"It will not suffice for drinking," the other complained, "will it suffice
for washing your hands?"
"What can I do?' the former replied, "when for neglecting the words of the
Rabbis one deserves death? It is better that I myself should die than that I
transgress against the opinion of my colleagues." [This is the ritual hand
washing condemned by Jesus in Matthew 15: 1-9].
Genocide Advocated by the Talmud
Minor Tractates. Soferim 15, Rule 10. This is the saying of Rabbi Simon ben
Yohai: Tob shebe goyyim harog ("Even the best of the gentiles should all be
killed").
This passage is from the original Hebrew of the Babylonian Talmud as quoted
by the 1907 Jewish Encyclopedia, published by Funk and Wagnalls and compiled
by Isidore Singer, under the entry, "Gentile," (p. 617).
This original Talmud passage has been concealed in translation. The Jewish
Encyclopedia states that, "...in the various versions the reading has been
altered, 'The best among the Egyptians' being generally substituted." In the
Soncino version: "the best of the heathens" (Minor Tractates, Soferim
41a-b].
Israelis annually take part in a national pilgrimage to the grave of Simon
ben Yohai, to honor this rabbi who advocated the extermination of non-Jews.
(Jewish Press, June 9, 1989, p. 56B).
On Purim, Feb. 25, 1994, Israeli army officer Baruch Goldstein, an orthodox
Jew from Brooklyn, massacred 40 Palestinian civilians, including children,
while they knelt in prayer in a mosque. Goldstein was a disciple of the late
Brooklyn Rabbi Meir Kahane, who told CBS News that his teaching that Arabs
are "dogs" is derived "from the Talmud." (CBS 60 Minutes, "Kahane").
University of Jerusalem Prof. Ehud Sprinzak described Kahane and Goldstein's
philosophy: "They believe it's God's will that they commit violence against
goyim, a Hebrew term for non-Jews." (NY Daily News, Feb. 26, 1994, p. 5).
Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg declared, "We have to recognize that Jewish blood and
the blood of a goy are not the same thing." (NY Times, June 6, 1989, p.5).
Rabbi Yaacov Perrin said, "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish
fingernail." (NY Daily News, Feb. 28, 1994, p.6).
Talmudic Doctrine: Non-Jews are not Human
The Talmud specifically defines all who are not Jews as non-human animals,
and specifically dehumanizes gentiles as not being descendants of Adam. We
will now list some of the Talmud passages which relate to this topic.
Kerithoth 6b: Uses of Oil of Anointing. Our Rabbis have taught: He who pours
the oil of anointing over cattle or vessels is not guilty; if over gentiles
[Hebrew: goyim] or the dead, he is not guilty. The law relating to cattle
and vessels is right, for it is written: "Upon the flesh of man [Hebrew:
Adam] shall it not be poured [Exodus 30:32]"; and cattle and vessels are not
man [Adam].
"Also with regard to the dead, [it is plausible] that he is exempt, since
after death one is called corpse and not a man [Adam]. But why is one exempt
in the case of gentiles [goyim]; are they not in the category of man [Adam]?
No, it is written: "And ye my sheep, the sheep of my pasture, are man"
[Adam] (Ezekiel 34:31): Ye are called man [Adam] but gentiles [goyim] are
not called man [Adam]."
In the preceding passage, the Rabbis are discussing the Mosaic law which
forbids applying the holy oil to men. In the discussion, the rabbis state
that it is not a sin to apply the holy oil to gentiles, since gentiles are
not human beings (literally, Adam).
Yebamoth 61a: "It was taught: And so did R. Simeon ben Yohai state [61a]
that the graves of gentiles [goyim] do not impart levitical uncleanness by
an ohel [standing or bending over a grave], for it is said, 'And ye my sheep
the sheep of my pasture, are men [Adam]', [Ezekiel 34:31]; you are called
men [Adam] but the idolaters are not called men [Adam]."
The Mosaic law states that touching a human corpse or grave imparts
uncleanness to those who touch it. But the Talmud here teaches that if a Jew
touches the grave of a gentile, it does not make him unclean, since gentiles
are not human (literally, Adam).
Baba Mezia 114b: "Said he [Rabbah] to him: Art thou not a priest: why then
dost thou stand in a cemetery? He replied: Has the Master not studied the
laws of purity? For it has been taught: R. Simeon ben Yohai said: The graves
of gentiles [goyim] do not defile, for it is written, 'And ye my flock, the
flock of my pastures, are men [Adam]' (Ezekiel 34:31); only ye are
designated men [Adam]."
"A Jewish priest was standing in a graveyard. When asked why he was standing
there in apparent violation of the Mosaic law, he replied that it was
permissible, since the law only prohibits Jews from coming into contact with
the graves of humans [Adamites], and he was standing in a gentile
graveyard."
Since the supposed Biblical proof text (Ezekiel 34:31) repeatedly cited in
the above three Talmud passages in reality does not prove that only Jews are
human, it is evident that the Talmudic sages who asserted the preceding
absurdities about gentiles were already anti-gentile racists or ideologues
who, in desperate search of some proof of their position, distorted an Old
Testament passage in order to justify their bigotry.
Berakoth 58a: "R. Shila administered lashes to a man who had intercourse
with an Egyptian woman. The man went and informed against him to the
Government, saying: There is a man among the Jews who passes judgment
without the permission of the Government. An official was sent to [summon]
him. When he came he was asked: Why did you flog that man? He replied:
Because he had intercourse with a she-ass.
"They said to him: Have you witnesses? He replied: I have. Elijah thereupon
came in the form of a man and gave evidence. They said to him: If that is
the case he ought to be put to death! He replied: Since we have been exiled
from our land, we have no authority to put to death; do with him what you
please.
"While they were considering his case, R. Shila exclaimed, 'Thine, Oh Lord,
is the greatness and the power' [I Chronicles 29:11] What are you saying?
they asked him. He replied: What I am saying is this: Blessed is the
All-Merciful who has made the earthly royalty on the model of the heavenly,
and has invested you with dominion, and made you lovers of justice.
"They said to him: Are you so solicitous for the honor of the Government?
They handed him a staff and said to him: You may act as judge. When he went
out that man said to him: Does the All-Merciful perform miracles for liars?
"He replied: Wretch! Are they not called asses? For it is written: 'Whose
flesh is as the flesh of asses' [Ezekiel 23:20].
"He noticed that the man was about to inform them that he had called them
asses. He said: This man is a persecutor, and the Torah has said: If a man
comes to kill you, rise early and kill him first. So he struck him with the
staff and killed him. He then said: Since a miracle has been wrought for me
through this verse, I will expound it."
Our apologies for subjecting the reader to the preceding lengthy, Talmudic
drivel, but it is best to include all of it to demonstrate its depravity. In
addition to having Elijah float down from heaven to deceive the gentile
court, the Talmud teaches that gentiles are actually animals, hence Rabbi
Shila (and Elijah) did not really lie at all. It also teaches that anyone
(even a Jewish man) who reveals this Talmudic teaching about non-Jews
deserves death, since revealing it makes gentiles wrathful and causes the
repression of Judaism.
The Talmudic citation of this scripture from Ezekiel as a "proof-text" is
specious, since the passage does not prove that gentiles are animals. The
passage from Ezekiel only says that some Egyptians had large genital organs
and copious emissions. This does not in any way prove or even connote that
the Egyptians being referred to in the Bible were considered animals. Once
again, the Talmud has falsified the Bible by means of distorted
interpretation. Other Talmud passages which expound on Ezekiel 23:20 in this
racist fashion are: Arakin 19b, Berakoth 25b, Niddah 45a, Shabbath 150a,
Yebamoth 98a. Moreover, the original text of Sanhedrin 37a applies God's
approval only to the saving of Jewish lives (cf. the Hesronot Ha-shas,
Cracow, 1894).
Moses Maimonides: Advocate of Extermination
We will now examine the post-Talmudic commentator Rambam (Moses Maimonides).
This revered "sage" taught that Christians should be exterminated. He has
the highest stature in Judaism:
"Moses Maimonides is considered the greatest codifier and philosopher in
Jewish history. He is often affectionately referred to as the Rambam, after
the initials of his name and title, Rabenu Moshe Ben Maimon, "Our Rabbi,
Moses son of Maimon." [Maimonides' Principles, edited by Aryeh Kaplan, Union
of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America,, p. 3].
Here is what Maimonides (Rambam) taught concerning saving people's lives,
especially concerning saving the lives of gentiles and Christians, or even
Jews who dared to deny the "divine inspiration" of the Talmud:
Maimonides, Mishnah Torah, (Moznaim Publishing Corporation, Brooklyn, New
York, 1990, Chapter 10, English Translation), p. 184: "Accordingly, if we
see an idolater (gentile) being swept away or drowning in the river, we
should not help him. If we see that his life is in danger, we should not
save him." The Hebrew text of the Feldheim 1981 edition of Mishnah Torah
states this as well.
Immediately after Maimonides' admonition that it is a duty for Jews not to
save a drowning or perishing gentile, he informs us of the Talmudic duty of
Jews towards Christians, and also towards Jews who deny the Talmud.
Maimonides, Mishnah Torah, (Chapter 10), p. 184:
"It is a mitzvah [religious duty], however, to eradicate Jewish traitors,
minnim, and apikorsim, and to cause them to descend to the pit of
destruction, since they cause difficulty to the Jews and sway the people
away from God, as did Jesus of Nazareth and his students, and Tzadok,
Baithos, and their students. May the name of the wicked rot."
The Jewish publisher's commentary accompanying the preceding statement of
Maimonides states that Jesus was an example of a min (plural: minnim).
The commentary also states that the students of Tzadok were defined as those
Jews who deny the truth of the Talmud and who uphold only the written law
(i.e. the Old Testament).
According to Maimonides' Principles, p. 5, Maimonides "spent twelve years
extracting every decision and law from the Talmud, and arranging them all
into 14 systematic volumes. The work was finally completed in 1180, and was
called Mishnah Torah, or "Code of the Torah."
Maimonides taught in another part of the Mishnah Torah that gentiles are not
human: "Man alone, and not vessels, can contract uncleanness by carriage.
...The corpse of a gentile, however, does not convey uncleanness by
overshadowing. ...a gentile does not contract corpse uncleanness; and if a
gentile touches, carries, or overshadows a corpse he is as one who did not
touch it.
"To what is this like? It is like a beast which touches a corpse or
overshadows it. And this applies not to corpse uncleanness only but to any
other kind of uncleanness: neither gentiles nor cattle are susceptible to
any uncleanness." (The Code of Maimonides, vol. 10, translated by Herbert
Danby, Yale University Press, New Haven, 1954, pp. 8-9).
The Schindler's List Quote
The Talmud (i.e., the Babylonian Talmud) text of Sanhedrin 37a restricts the
duty to save life to saving only Jewish lives.
The book on Hebrew censorship, written by Jews themselves (Hesronot
Ha-shas), notes that some Talmud texts use the universalist phrase:
"Whoever destroys the life of a single human being...it is as if he had
destroyed an entire world; and whoever preserves the life of a single human
being ...it is as if he had preserved an entire world."
However, Hesronot Ha-shas points out that these are not the authentic words
of the original Talmud.
In other words, the preceding universalist rendering is not the authentic
text of the Talmud and thus, for example, this universalist version which
Steven Spielberg in his famous movie, Schindler's List attributed to the
Talmud (and which became the motto of the movie on posters and in
advertisements), is a hoax and constitutes propaganda intended to give a
humanistic gloss to a Talmud which is, in its essence, racist and chauvinist
hate literature.
In the authentic, original Talmud text it states that "whoever preserves a
single soul of Israel, it is as if he had preserved an entire world"
(emphasis supplied). The authentic Talmud text sanctions only the saving of
Jewish lives.
Jewish Deception and Dissimulation
The response of the orthodox rabbis to documentation regarding the racism
and hatred in the Talmud is simply to brazenly lie, in keeping with the
Talmud's Baba Kamma 113a which states that Jews may use lies ("subterfuges")
to circumvent a Gentile.
The Simon Wiesenthal Center, a multi-million dollar rabbinical propaganda
center dispatched Rabbi Daniel Landes in 1995 to deny that the Talmud
dehumanizes non-Jews. "This is utter rot," he said. His proof? Why, his
word, of course.
This lying to "circumvent a gentile" has a long patrimony in Judaism. Take
for example the 13th century Talmud debate in Paris between Nicholas of
Donin, a Jewish convert to Christianity, whom Hyam Maccoby admits had "a
good knowledge of the Talmud" (Judaism on Trial, p.26) and Rabbi Yehiel.
Yehiel was not under threat of death, bodily injury, imprisonment or fine.
Yet he brazenly lied during the course of the debate.
When asked by Donin whether there were attacks on Jesus in the Talmud,
Yehiel denied that there were any. Donin, a Hebrew scholar, knew this to be
false. Hyam Maccoby, a 20th century Jewish commentator on the debate,
defends Rabbi Yehiel's lying in this way:
"The question may be asked, however, whether Yehiel really believed that
Jesus was not mentioned in the Talmud, or whether he put this forward as an
ingenious ploy in the desperate situation in which he found himself...It
would certainly have been pardonable of the rabbi to attempt some
condonation in which he did not fully believe, to prevent such tyannical
proceedings by one religious culture against another." (Judaism on Trial, p.
28).
This is how Jewish denial of the existence of hateful Talmud texts is
justified to this day. A fanciful word for Jewish lying is conjured
("condonation") and deemed "pardonable," while any scrutiny of Jewish holy
books by Christian investigators is characterized as a "tyrannical
proceeding." Of course Jewish attacks on the New Testament do not qualify as
a "tyrannical proceeding." Only Christian criticism of the Talmud qualifies
as tyrannical and the response of the Jewish apologists is to lie.
(This is certainly not true of all Jewish people. Dr. Israel Shahak of
Hebrew University has written an entire book --Jewish History, Jewish
Relgion -- which documents the anti-gentile and anti-Christian polemic in
sacred Jewish writings such as the Talmud).
However much the ADL or Wiesenthal Center lie and deny, the fact is, in this
writing, we have furnished the reader with documentation direct from the
original Talmudic texts, as well as from the writings of the Jews' own
"greatest" Talmud authority, Moses Maimonides.
In 1994, Rabbi Tzvi Marx, director of Applied Education at the Shalom
Hartman Institute in Jerusalem, made a remarkable admission concerning how
Jews in the past have issued two sets of texts: the authentic Talmudic texts
with which they instruct their own youth in the Talmud schools (kollel) and
"censured and amended" versions which they disseminate to the gullible goyim
(non-Jews) for public consumption.
Rabbi Marx states that in the version of Maimonides' teachings published for
public consumption, Maimonides is made to say that whoever kills a human
being transgresses the law.
But, Rabbi Marx points out "...this only reflects the censured and amended
printed text, whereas the original manuscripts have it only as "whoever
kills an Israelite." (Tikkun: A Bi-Monthly Jewish Critique, May-June, 1994).
The Jewish book, Hesronot Ha-shas ("that which is removed from the Talmud,"
cf. William Popper, The Censorship of Hebrew Books, p. 59), is important in
this regard.
Hesronot Ha-shas was reprinted in 1989 by Sinai Publishing of Tel-Aviv.
Hesronot Ha-shas is valuable because it lists both the original Talmud texts
that were later changed or omitted, and the falsified texts nowadays being
cited for gentile consumption as authentic.
Popper (pp. 58-59), states: "It was not always that long passages...were
censored...but often single words alone were omitted; ...Often, in these
cases, another method of correction was used in place of
omission--substitution."
For example, the translators of the English Soncino version of the Talmud
sometimes translate the Hebrew word goyim (gentiles) under any number of
disguise words such as "heathen, Cuthean, Egyptian, idolater" etc. But these
are actually references to gentiles (all non-Jews). In footnote 5 of the
Soncino edition Talmud it is stated: "Cuthean (Samaritan) was here
substituted for the original goy..."
It is the standard disinformation practice of the Pharisees to deny the
existence of the racist Talmudic passages we have cited, in order to claim
that such passages are the "fabrications of anti-Semites."
In 1994, the 80 year old Dowager Lady Jane Birdwood was arrested and
prosecuted in a criminal court in London, England for the "crime" of
publishing in her pamphlet, The Longest Hatred, the truthful statement that
the Talmud contains anti-gentile and anti-Christian passages. In the course
of her thought-crime trial, which was ignored by the U.S. media, a rabbi was
called as a prosecution witness. The rabbi proceeded to flatly deny that the
Talmud contained anti-gentile or anti-Christian passages and on the basis of
the rabbi's "prestige," the old woman was sentenced to three months in jail
and fined the equivalent of $1,000.
Dr. Israel Shahak, in his work, Jewish History, Jewish Religion and Bernard
Pick in Jesus in the Talmud, (pp. 57; 105-106), have both confirmed the hate
and racism contained in the Talmud. Those Jews who deny the actual contents
of the Talmud are liars.
"Judeo-Christian" Response to the Talmud
Neither the modern popes or the modern heads of Protestantism, have ever
insisted that the rabbis of Judaism repudiate or condemn the racism in the
Talmud or the murderous hate for Christians and gentiles expressed within
it. On the contrary, the heads of Churchianity have urged the followers of
Christ to obey, honor and support the followers of the Talmud. Therefore, it
should be obvious that these Catholic and Protestant leaders are the worst
betrayers of Jesus Christ on earth today. (Cf. Matthew 23:13-15; I Thess.
2:14-16; Titus 1:14; Luke 3:8-9; Rev. 3:9).
Non-Jews are "Supernal Refuse"
Moreover, not only Christians but non-Christians of all races are regarded
as "supernal refuse" (garbage) by Talmud teachers such as the founder of
Habad-Lubavitch, Rabbi Shneur Zalman.
This was analyzed in the Jewish magazine, New Republic: "...there are some
powerful ironies in Habad's new messianic universalism, in its mission to
the gentiles; and surely the most unpleasant of them concerns Habad's
otherwise undisguised and even racial contempt for the goyim.
"...medieval Jewish theologians--most notably the poet and philosopher Judah
Ha-Levi in twelfth-century Spain and the mystic Judah Loewe in
sixteenth-century Prague--sought to define the Jewish distinction racially
rather than spiritually...this...view, according to which there is something
innately superior about the Jews, was rehabilitated in its most extreme form
by Shneur Zalman of Lyady. The founder of Lubavitcher Hasidism taught that
there is a difference of essence between the souls of Jews and the souls of
gentiles, that only in the Jewish soul does there reside a spark of divine
vitality.
"As for the goyim...Zalman's attitude (was): 'Gentile souls are of a
completely different and inferior order. They are totally evil, with no
redeeming qualities whatsoever.'
"Consequently, references to gentiles in Rabbi Shneur Zalman's teachings are
invariably invidious. Their (non-Jews) material abundance derives from
supernal refuse. Indeed, they themselves derive from refuse, which is why
they are more numerous than the Jews, as the pieces of chaff outnumber the
kernels...All Jews were innately good, all gentiles innately evil.
"...Moreover, this characterization of gentiles as being inherently evil, as
being spiritually as well as biologically inferior to Jews, has not in any
way been revised in later Habad writing." --The New Republic, May 4, 1992.
Also cf. Roman A. Foxbrunner, Habad: The Hasidism of Shneur Zalman of Lyady
(Northvale, New Jersey, Jason Aronson, Inc., 1993) pp. 108-109.
U.S. Government Lays Groundwork for Talmudic Courts
The government under Reagan, Bush and Clinton, has provided, under the
euphemism of education (for example, House Joint Resolution 173 and Public
Law 102-14), a groundwork for the establishment of 'courts of justice' to be
governed by disciples of Shneur Zalman's Habad successor, Rabbi Menachem
Mendel Schneerson. These courts are to be convened allegedly under the
"Noachide Laws" (proscriptions against idolatry based on the covenant with
Noah). But under the Talmudic interpretation of the Noachide Laws, the
worship of Jesus is to be forbidden, since such worship is regarded as
idolatry (cf. Alan Unterman, Dictionary of Jewish Lore and Legend, p. 148);
all non-Jews in the U.S. would have the legal status of ger toshav (resident
alien).
American taxpayers' subsidy of the so-called "U.S. Holocaust Museum" in
Washington, D.C., is yet another indicator of the gradual establishment of a
state religion in the U.S. This "holocaust museum" excludes any reference to
holocausts perpetrated by Jewish Communists against Christians in Russia and
Eastern Europe, from 1917 onward.
The focus of the 'museum' is almost entirely on Jewish suffering. Holocausts
perpetrated by Zionist Jews against Arabs in Lebanon in 1982 and in
Palestine since 1948 are nowhere to be found in the exhibits of the
"Holocaust Museum," which functions more like a synagogue than a repository
of objective historical information.
Jewish Law Requires Christians to be Executed
Israeli "Torah scholars" have ruled that:
"The Torah maintains that the righteous of all nations have a place in the
World to Come. But not all religious Gentiles earn eternal life by virtue of
observing their religion...And while the Christians do generally accept the
Hebrew Bible as truly from God, many of them (those who accept the so-called
divinity of Jesus) are idolaters according to the Torah, punishable by
death, and certainly will not enjoy the World to Come."
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--The International Jew by Henry Ford is also very interesting.
>
>>My people have probably
>>been oppressed just as much as your people, but we never got any freebies
>>because of it, nor did we get or own country. Are you ready to say that
the
>>Bolshevik Revolution (and the subsequent Communist movement) wasn't mostly
a
>>Jewish affair?
>
> Where there jews involved? Sure.
--Involved? Take a look at this: On the Council of Commissars functioning at
the time of the assassination of the Imperial Family, there were 62 members:
5 Russians, 1 Ukrainian, 6 Letts, 2 Germans, 1 Czech, 2 Armenians, 3
Georgians, 1 Karalm [a Jewish sect], 41 Jews. The extraordinary Commission
of Moscow was composed of 36 members, including 1 German, 1 Pole, 1
Armenian, 2 Russians, 8 Letts, 23 Jews. The Council of the People's
Commissars numbered 2 Armenians, 3 Russian, 17 Jews. According to the data
furnished by the Soviet Press, out of 556 important functionaries of the
Bolshevik State, including the above-mentioned, there were in 1918-1919, 17
Russians, 2 Ukrainians, 11 Armenians, 35 Letts, 15 Germans, 1 Hungarian, 10
Georgians, 3 Poles, 3 Finns, 1 Czech, 1 Karaim, 457 Jews. Furthermore,
they're mostly responsible for the ensuing spread of Communism all over the
world. Adrien Arcand, at a New York speech on October 30, 1937 said, "When
it came to Mexico, the promoters of Communism were the Jews Calles,
Hubermann and Aaron Saenz; in Spain we saw Azaña and Rosenberg; in Hungary
we saw Bela Kun, Szamuelly, Agoston and dozen other Jews; in Bavaria, we saw
Kurt Eisner and a host of other Jews; in Belgium Marxian Socialism brought
to power Vadervelde alias Epstein, and Paul Hymans, two Jews; in France,
Marxian Socialism brought forth the Jews Leon Blum (who showed so well his
Jewish instincts in his filthy book Du Mariarge), Mandel, Zyromsky, Danain
and a whole tribe of them; in Italy we had seen the Jews Nathan and Claudio
Treves. Everywhere, Marxism brings Jews on the top - And this is no hazard."
But look at how Communism treated jews.
>To call it a "Jewish affair" when Stalin is probably the second-greatest
>jew-killer (after Hitler) is just stupid.
--I would like to see proof of that. Many of his closest allies were Jewish.
One that comes to mind is Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich who was chief mass
murderer for Stalin. He ordered the deaths of millions and the wholesale
destruction of Christian monuments and churches, including the great
Cathedral of Christ the Savior. Standing amid the rubble of the cathedral,
Kaganovich proclaimed, "Mother Russia is cast down. We have ripped away her
skirts." (N.Y. Times, Sept. 26, 1995). Stalin supported the 1947 Palestine
partition plan, and gave crucial recognition to the newly-created state of
Israel and voted for Israel's admission to the United Nations. Have you
forgotten about Solomon Morel, a commandant of a post-war Communist
concentration camp for Germans in Poland? Stalin deliberately put Jews in
charge of such camps. Morel tortured and murdered thousands of Germans,
sometimes with his bare hands (cf. "The Wrath of Solomon," Village Voice,
March 30, 1993 and John Sack, An Eye for an Eye). Morel is comfortably
esconsed in Tel Aviv. German survivors of Morel's camp have demanded he be
tried as a war criminal, but for the Establishment media and the phony,
partisan, "human rights" groups, bringing Morel to justice is simply a
non-issue. After all, he murdered helpless Germans, so what's the problem???
Also, Julius and Ethel Rosenberg stole American atomic bomb secrets for
Stalin. Mikhail Kaganovich was deputy commissar of heavy industry,
supervisor of slave labor, brother of Lazar. Rosa Kaganovich was Stalin's
mistress; sister of Lazar. Paulina Zhemchuzina was member of the Central
Committee and wife of Soviet Foreign Minister Molotov. Lev Grigorievich
Levin, physician, poisoned Stalin's enemies. Bela Kun (Kohen): supreme
dictator of Hungary in 1919. Kun was later Stalin's chief terrorist in the
Crimea. Zakharovich Mekhlis was top executioner for Stalin. Armand Hammer
was fundraiser and financier for Lenin and Stalin, son of Julius. Lev
Davidovich Landau was a Stalinist physicist, co-father of the Soviet atomic
bomb. Klaus Fuchs: helped steal atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Victor
Rothschild: top British espionage agent for Stalin. Do you want me to go on?
>>Are you dumb enough to claim that the American media is not
>>under Jewish control?
>
> Are there lots of Jews in high media positions? Sure. Is that
>the same thing as the media being under "Jewish control?" Absolutely
>not. The point you seem to miss is that there isn't a Jewish
>conspiracy.
--The problem with that statement is that you can't prove it either way.
Conspiracies are, by definition, secret. When they become public, it's
usually after most of the damage is done. It's obvious that Jews have
conspired in the past and some ramifications of their propaganda are still
being felt today. Just look at this statement by Israel Cohen in 1912, "We
must realize that our party's most powerful weapon is racial tensions. By
propounding into the consciousness of the dark races that for centuries they
have been oppressed by whites, we can mold them to the program of the
Communist Party. In America we will aim for subtle victory. While inflaming
the Negro minority against the whites, we will endeavor to instill in the
whites a guilt complex for their exploitation of the Negroes. We will aid
the Negroes to rise in prominence in every walk of life, in the professions
and in the world of sports and entertainment. With this prestige, the Negro
will be able to intermarry with the whites and begin a process which will
deliver America to our cause."
Israel Cohen (1912), A Racial Program for the Twentieth Century, 1912.
Also in the Congressional Record, Vol. 103, p. 8559, June 7, 1957
If that didn't creep you out, I don't know what will...
What I find sad is that you have organizations like B'nai B'rith asking,
"What's good for the Jews? How can we continue to push our agenda?", while
trying to prevent people like me from seeking the truth and saying it out
loud. The ADL are just as bad. They can't handle the truth. Jews and Blacks
have the right to celebrate their racial heritage and culture, but when
white Christians get together and celebrate their racial pride, it's called
racism and hatred.
The fact that two jews are heads of separate organizations
>implies no more collusion between them than the fact that
>two episcopaleans are, or the fact that two catholics are.
>
--The things is, there are more than just two Jews. Actually, it's hard to
find the Gentiles in the sea of Jewishness. To say that there isn't
collusion between them is pointless. It's a matter of politics and
philosophy. If the CEO's of NBC and ABC were 2 mormons, it's fair to say
that we would see less sex and more conservative shows on those networks.
The 2 mormons wouldn't be in collusion; their product would simply reflect a
philosophy that they happen to share. That being said, I don't believe for
an instant that the Jews managed to own and control every movie studio,
every TV network (with the exception of Ted Turner's empire), and most
newspapers in the US by accident. 2% of the population can't acquire that
much power if there's absolutely no favoritism and no foul play. The same
thing can be said of the disproportionate amount of Jewish entertainers.
Take a look at this list. (Yeah, there are several repetitions and a couple
of people on it aren't Jews.)
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Jews on Stage, Screen, Musicians, Artists, Etc.
Stage, Screen, Musicians, Artists, Writers, etc...
Allen, Woody - Comedian, Actor, Director, Producer (real name: Allan
Konigsberg)
Avital, Mili - Israeli actress (extremely beautiful), U.S. debut: Stargate
Beck - Musician
Berlin, Irving - Composer of "White Christmas"
Biafra, Jello (Singer of American HC punk band Dead Kennedys)
Bialik, Mayim - Actress (Blossom)
Borgnine, Ernst (Effron Borgnine) - an actor
Brooks, Albert - Actor, Director (real name: Albert Einstein)
Brooks, Mel - Actor, Director, Comedian, Writer
Bullock, Sandra - actress [Jewish?]
Cantor, Eddie - Vaudeville Singer, Dancer
Cass, "Mama" (Liz Cohen) - an actress
Cherry, Ruben (A man who raised Elvis in public)
Chessler, Deborah (Shirley Reingold)
Chomsky, Naom - an American philosopher
Cohen, Leonard -- Bohemian Song Writer
Crystal, Billy - Actor, Comedian
Davis, Jr., Sammy - Black Singer, Actor, Dancer (died)
DeCarlo, Joe - Comedian
DeNero, Robert - Actor [Jewish Mother]
Deutscher, Isaac - an author (biography of "Stalin")
Dreyfuss, Richard (Oscar Winning Actor)
Duchovny, David - Co-star of the hit show The X-Files
Duritz, Adam lead singer/songwriter for Counting Crows
Dylan, Bob - Musician
Escher, M. C. - Artist, Explorer of the Infinite
Feuer, Aaron Neal - wrestler, talmud scholar, debate champ
Ford, Harrison - Actor (Jewish Mom, see interviews in cosmopolitan/playboy)
Frankel, Mark - Actor
Freed, Alan (first radio star in 50´s to play Rock n' Roll)
Geller, Sarah Michelle - Actress (Buffy the Vampire Slayer TV)
Geller, Rudy - Magician who Bends Spoons & Levitates Objects
Gershwin, George - composer (Rhapsody in Blue)
Goldblum, Jeff - Actor
Goldwyn, Samuel - Director, Executive at Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer
Gordon, Tony (Manager UK punk band Sham 69)
Gere, Richard - Actor
Gifford, Cathy Lee Epstein - Talk Show Hostess
Himmelman, Peter - Musician (and son-in-law to B. Dylan)
Hoffmann, Gaby
Keitel, Harvey (Actor: Pulp Fiction, The Piano, etc)
Kirschner, Mia - Actress/Exotica
Knopfler, Mark - Dire Straits
Jeremy, Ron - Porn Star
Joel, Billy - Musician, Winnner of Grammy Awards
Jolsen, Al - Singer, Mummer, Cantor
Klein, Calvin - Fashion Designer
Lee, Michelle - Actress - Knots Landing
Louis, Julia - Actress
Marcell, Bibi - Klezmer Singer extraordinaire
Marley, Bob - Reggae Artist (father was Jewish, mother negro)
Martins, Luciano Costa - brazilian musician (mother mulatta, father
indian/jewish)
Marx, Groucho - Comedian
Marx, Harpo - Comedian
Mayer, Louis B. - Founder & Director at Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer
Meyers, Ari - Actress / Kate and Allie
Minelli, Liza - Singer/Actress
Neuwirth, Bebe - Lilith on Cheers
Newman, Paul - Actor
Newton John, Olivia - Australian Pop Singer
Nimoy, Leonard - Actor (Star Trek's 'Spock')
Owens, Ronn - San Francisco/Los Angeles Talk Show Host
Patinkin, Mandy - Actor (Chicago Hope)
Peck, Gregory - an actor
Perlman, Itzhak - World-Renowned Violinist
Portman, Natalie - actress
Raffi - childrens' entertainer
Reiser, Paul - Mad About You
Reudor - Cartoonist,author, creator of comic strip and books featuring The
Doodle Family
Rhodes, Bernie (the first manager of The Clash)
Richards, Michael - Seinfeld
Rivera, Geraldo - Talk Show Host
Roth, David Lee - Van Halen Rocker
Ryder, Winona - Actress
Savalas, Telly - an actor (died)
Sandler, Adam - Comedian
Schlessinger, Dr. Laura - radio therapist
Seagal, Steven - action movie star, Under Siege, etc.
Seinfeld, Jerry - Comedian
Server, Josh - actor on the show All That
Seymour, Jane - Actress (father is Jewish)
Shatner, William - Actor (Star Trek's Captain 'James T. Kirk')
Shiraz - Israeli supermodel(pic on top model directory)
Shue, Andrew - Actor (Melrose Place)
Silver, Josh (keyboard player in goth metal band Type-O-Negative)
Silverstone, Alicia - Actress, Clueless Star
Simon, Paul - Musician
Sioux, Siouxie (female singer of British punk/goth band Siouxie & Banshees)
Singer, Isaac Bashevis - Writer (Yiddish)
Slash - Guitarist in Guns and Roses (Saul Hudson)
Smith, Raphael - Composer and Scriptwriter ('Search for Bokkie Rosenthal')
Sondheim, Stephen - Broadway lyricist/composer
Spacek, Sissy - an actress
Spielberg, Steven - Director
Sprinkle, Annie - Porn star and performance artist
Spungen, Nancy (girlfriend of Sex Pistols´s basist Sid Vicious) (died)
Steinman, Jim - Composer for Meat Loaf, Bonnie Tyler, Celine Dion
Stern, Howard - king of all media
Stewart, Jon - Comedian
Streisand, Barbara - director, singer, producer
Ustinov, Peter - an actor
Williams, Robin - Actor (Said he was Jewish on "Oprah")
Yetnikoff, Walter (ex-manager of Michael Jackson)
Zuehra Elfassia - Famous Singer - Morocco
Mel Brooks - Actor, Director, Producer
Jacob Freedman -- WBZC's Sunday Morning Klezmer DJ
Iggy Pop, musician
Julianna Margulies - ER Actress
Lisa Kudrow - TV Star-Friends
Geddy Lee --lead singer and bass player of the band Rush
Lauren Bacall - Actress
Jeff Chandler - Actor
Lori Beth Denberg - actress on the show All That
Harvey Fierstein - actor, writer
Claude Berri - French film director
Bruce Boxleitner - actor
Joey Ramone - Lead singer of the Ramones
Noah Wyle - actor, E.R
Ofra Haza - Israeli Singer
Eddie Vedder - lead voaclist for Pearl Jam
Ellen Barkin - Actress
Lisa Bonet - ex-wife of Lenny Kravitz
Danny Kaye - philanthropist, song-and-dance man
DINAH SHORE- SINGER -- FATHER WAS RABBI
Jack Benny (Benjamin Kubelsky - real name)
Lou Reed - Musician
Paul Stanley - singer/guitarist player for Kiss, real name Stanley Eisen
Scott Wolf - Party of Five
Dominika Peczynski - TV star (Dominikas Planet), member of Swedish dance
band
Army Of
Lovers (Crucified, Isrealism)
Henry Winkler - Actor ('The Fonze' on 'Happy Days')
Bob Hopskins - Roger Rabitt, Cotton Club, ex-kibbutznik
Fat Mike - Singer, guitarist and songwriter for NOFX
Pat Benatar - famous singer
Yasmine Bleeth - actress (father Jewish)
Alan Rickman - Actor (Sense and Sensibility, Die Hard, Robin Hood Prince Of
Thieves)
David Oistrakh - Violinist
Gene Wilder - Actor
Debbie Friedman - songwriter and singer
Gary Dell'Abate - Howard Stern's Producer (Baba Booey!)
Brian Austin Green -
Elizabeth Shue - Karate Kid, Back to the Future II & III, Leaving Las Vegas,
The
Saint, etc...
Mordechai Richler - Famous Montreal writer
Jerry Walker - Disc Jockey, ABC Radio Network
Shemp Howard (Horowitz) one of the Three Stooges
Rita Hayworth (Rita Cansino) Source: Debrett's Goes to Hollywood (Cansino
family
Spanish
Sephardim)
Walter Matthau - Comedian, actor
Stepfanie Kramer - actress /Hunter
Uri Geller - Spoon-bending Magician
Kirk Douglas - Actor
Jean-Pierre Barda - actor, TV star member of Swedish dance band Army Of
Lovers
(Crucified,
Isrealism)
Elie Weisel - Author and Nobel Laureate
Pauly Shore - actor
Rodney Dangerfield - Comedian, Actor, real name Jack Cohen
Lenny Bruce - comic
Sarah Jessica Parker - Actress
Elvis Presley - Jewish maternal grandparent
(Jerome) Curly Howard (Horowitz) - one of the Stooges
Dinah Manoff - actress\empty nest
Mike Diamond - Musician (Beastie Boys)
Chaim Goldberg - World renowned artist of the Shtetl Culture. see site
Melanie Chartoff - actress
Sara Silverman - commedienne
Sophie Marceau - french actress Braveheart daughter of Marcel
Howie Mandel - Comedian
Carrie Fisher - Actress: Star Wars' Princess Leia
Phil Ochs - Topical Folk Singer of 's
Howard Ashman - lyricist Little Shop of Horrors, Disney animated features
Debra Winger - Actress
Clare Carey - actress, coach
Kevin Kline - Actor, Best Supporting Oscar in A Fish Called Wanda
Lenny Kravitz - singer, guitarist
Harry Houdini - World's Most Famous Magician and Escape Artist
Neil Diamond - Musician, Singer, Actor
Morie Amsterdam
Dustin Hoffman - Actor
Barry Horowitz: real name, professional wrestler in the WWF & WCW
Goldberg: name: Bill Goldberg, professional wrestler, WCW Champion
Raven: name: Scott Levy, professional wrestler, former WCW Champion
Dean Malenko, professional wrestler, former WCW champion
Jon Lovitz - Actor, comedian (Saturday Night Live, The Critic)
Isaac Asimov - world famous sci-fi writer
Susanna Hoffs - Singer in the Bangles
DiDi Conn - Actress
Christine Lakin - Step by Step
Herman Wouk - Author of War and Rememberance and other great epic novels
Gilda Radner - Comedian, Saturday Night Live
Jason Alexander -- Actor (George Castanza on 'Seinfeld')
Joseph Gordon - Levitt - actor on rd Rock From The Sun
Bette Midler - Actress/Singer
Michael Landon - Little House On The Prairie (Eugene Orowitz - real name)
Al Jolson - Singer, actor
Paula Prentiss - actress Jewish?
Robert Redford - Actor. Describes himself as 'half Jewish'.
Alan Jay Lerner - Lyricist (My Fair Lady)
Leslie Ann Warren - Actress Jewish?
Jonathan Silverman - actor/single guy
Marc Chagall - Painter, visual artist, Other site
David Harari- Bunghole Extradorinaire
Boris Karloff
Gene Simmons - singer/bass player for Kiss Israeli/Turkish, real name Haim
Witz
(or Gene
Klein?)
Jeremy Priven? - actor on Ellen
Joan Collins - Actress and Socialite Jewish?
Jerry Lewis - Comedian, Actor, Director
Gilbert Gottfried - Comedian
Jonny Clegg - South african musician Jaluka and Savuka
Hank Azaria - Cartoon voices in Simpsons and starred in Birdcage
Gilad Gelfond and David Cygielman- Rappers
Michael Jackson - ABC Talk Radio Host
Efrem Zimbalist, Jr. - actor
Larry Fine - one of the Three Stooges
David Janssen - actor
Jakob Dylan - lead singer of The Wallflowers and son of the great Bob Dylan
Don Diamont - actor Young and Restless
Irving Berlin -- songwriter & writer of musicals (God Bless America, White
Christmas, There's
No Business Like Show Business)
Marcel Marceau - Famous French mime
John Banner - Actor (Schultz from Hogan's Heroes) Jewish?
Aaron Lebedev - famous Yiddish singer and actor
MAX FELIX-ACTOR AND RADIO PERSONALITY-ARGENTINA
George Burns - Comedian, Actor (Real name: nathan birnbaum)
Randy Newman - Composer performer ('Toy Story' soundtrack)
Heddy Lamarr- actress, Delilah in Samson and...
Isaac Stern - Famous Violinist
TORI SPELLING
Jan Murray - comedian
David Helfcott - Musican
Roberta Peters - singer Metropolitan Opera
Goldie Hawn
Lawrence Hershon- little in the middle but he got much back
Allan Sherman - Singer/songwriter, humorist
Jamie Gertz -- actress
Harpo Marx - Comedian (Marx Brothers)
Lorraine Bracco - Actress (Goodfellas)
Brett Gurewitz - owner of Epitaph records and former guitarist for Bad
Religion
diane venora - chicago hope
Bruno Walter - German conductor and student of Gustav Mahler. Had to change
his
name.
Giselle Fernandez (mother is Jewish)
Jenna Leigh Green - actress on Sabrina The Teenage Witch
Robert Goulet-Singer (Real Name: Robert Applebaum)
Naomi Shemer -- composer to Yerushalayim shel zahav
Stuttering John Melendezbaum - He looks as good as he talks!
Jeff Goldman - actor
katey segal - actress/singer married w/children
Neil Gaiman - Author (Sandman, Neverwhere)
Adam Sandler - Comedian/Actor
Isaac Mizrahi - Fashion Designer
Brooke Langton - actress (Samantha on Melrose Place)
Leonard Bernstein -- composer (West Side Story)
Peter Riegert - actor, Crossing Delancey
Gina Gershon - actress/Showgirls
Joel Grey - Broadway Actor (Emcee, Cabaret)
Joy Division (at least Peter Hook, Stephen Morris and Bernard Sumner, Ian
Curtis?)
Ed Asner, Mr. Grant on The Mary Tyler Moore Show
Dennis Prager - radio talk host, essayist, moralist
Jerry Springer - Talk show host
Kenny G - Musician
Steve Lawrence - singer, skeptic, husband of Edie Gorme
Jonathan Taylor Thomas - real name Jonathan Weiss
Zero Mostel, actor, comedian, painter
Stephen Schwartz -- lyricist/composer
Richard Dreyfus - Actor
Jamie Luner - actress she was on the show Savannah
Jessica Tandy - actress, Driving Miss Daisy
Ari Telch, mexican actor
Joe Cocker - famous singer israeli/german
Barry Manilow - Musician, Singer
Beverly Sills - Opera Star(Real name: Beverly Silberman)
Theodore Bikel - actor / Fiddler on the Roof
Kathie Lee Gifford - (father was Jewish Epstien)
Sonia Benezra - Quebecer Talk Show host
Swoozie Kurtz - actress/Sisters Jewish?
The Greaseman (Doug Tracht) Nationally known radio shock jock
Shel Silverstein Children's author
Sandy Becker - late children's TV show host
melissa gilbert - actress
Jeff Beck - Guitarist
Louise Rainer-fine actress s and s
Amy Irving - actress
steven weber - actor (wings)
Dorothy Lamour - Actress
Michael T. Weiss - TV actor (The Pretender)
David Geffen - Dreamworks, Owns Geffen Records ( Israeli )
Donald Fagen - Steely Dan singer/composer
Nina Gordon - Musician, Veruca Salt
Moe Howard - one of the Three Stooges
Roseanne Barr - Comedian
Nelly Sachs - poet, Noble prize in literature
Stanley Kubrick- Director of '' and 'A Clockwork Orange'
Elliot Gould - Actor from Bay Parkway Brooklyn
Jeffrey Meyer - Yankee Hero
Suzanne Pleshette-Costar of The Bob Newhart Show
Fran Drescher - Actress (from The Nanny)
Julie Kavner - actress, voice of Marge Simpson
Effi - Israeli Hot Head ( MTV's Road Rules)
Joan Rivers - Comedian/writer/jeweler/actress
Scott Simon - host NPR's Saturday Weekend Edition, broadcast journalist
Rhea Perlman - Actress
Mara Wilson - child actress in Miracle on th St, Mrs. Doubtfire
Jim Bradley - Dog Trainer
Alan King - CNN king of talk
Barry Levinson - 'Diner' Director
Melissa Joan Hart- Mother's father devout orthodox Jew
Ken Wahl - Wiseguy star Jewish?
Jerry Herman - Composer of Hello Dolly!
Larry Adler - world famous harmonica player
Lorne Green - Bonaza star
Dan Blocker - actor, Bonanza
Fred Astaire (Fredrik Austerlitz - real name) Jewish?
Peter Sellers - Actor,Comedian
Ron Silver - Actor/Director
Perry Farrel - ne Bernstein. Musician, Porno for Pyros
Stan Getz - Jazz Saxophonist
Roman Polanski - Director
Super Dave Osborne - Comedian. Real name: Bob Einstein.
Tom Arnold - actor
Maury Chaykin - Actor -
Molly Ringwald - Brat Pack Actress
Jenna Von Oy -- actress who played six on blossom Jewish?
Paula Abdul - famous singer (Mother is French canadian Jew)
Phoebe Snow - Singer
Lorne Michaels - T.V. Producer (created Saturday Night Live)
michael mills (born Milstein) - cellist, brain surgeon, comedian, petty
bureaucrat
David Copperfield - Magician
Lacey Chabert - actress on Party of Five
Barry Sisters - famous Jewish duet
Werner Klemperer (Klink on Hogan's Heroes, son of Otto K.)
Mel Blanc - Best-Known Cartoon Voices
Monty Hall - game show host
Soupy Sales - comedian
Leslie Howard - British actor, in Gone With The Wind, Killed as Pilot in
WWII
for Britain
Jo Amar - Famous Singer - Morocco
Tony Curtis (Bernard Schwartz - real name)
Pinky Lee(Pincas Levy)--Children Entertainer of the 's
Marc Bolan (Marc Feld) - UK singer: T. Rex Frontman
Sally Jessy Raphael-T.V. talk show hostess, (real last name: Lowenthal)
Marla Sokoloff - actress
Richard Beymer - 'West Side Story' - actor
Geena Davis - actress
Jonathan Larson-composer (Rent)
Ira Gershwin -- lyricist
Matt Lauer - NBC Today Show
Richard Avedon - Photographer
Brent Spiner - Data character on Star Trek Next Generation
Zeppo Marx - Comedian (Marx Brothers)
Matthew Broderick - Actor. Jewish Mom
Yehudi Menuhin, world class Violonist
Tim Burton - Brilliant Director
brian bloom - actor
Michael Bolton - Singer
Art Garfunkel - Musician
Bruce Springsteen - singer/songwriter (Dutch/Jewish) evidence anyone?
Beatrice Arthur - Actress (Dorothy, Golden Girls)
Hillel Slovak - Late guitarist for Red Hot Chili Peppers
Victor Borge (Borge Rosenbaum) Pianist and Humourist
Mike Wallace - Television journalist
joey slotnick - actor/single guy
Joe T Turri - Famous NY house music producer
Harry Reems- 'Big' porn star of the 's
Cindy Margolis- Model and Cyberpinup
Fyvush Finkel - Actor/Entertainer - Picket Fences
Jennifer Grey - Actress (Baby, Dirty Dancing)
justine bateman - actress
clio goldsmith actress
Totie Fields - comedienne
Bernie Bernstein - Musician, Punk Band,'Hector'
Matityahu Glazerson - Author of Mystical Books/Composer
Dinah Shore - singer and TV star
Marat Galperin - athlete, entertainer, and regulator.
Wolf Blitzer - CNN Journalist
Peter Lorre - ne Ladislav Loewenstein, Actor
Ben Stiller - Actor/Director
craig t. nelson actor-coach
Yaasha Heifitz - Famous Violinist
Robby Benson Robert Segal-actor/director
Giora Fiedman - klezmer musician
Richard Kaufman (Ricky The K) - Disc Jockey
Brody Stevens - Comedian and Cable Access TV host in Seattle
Judd Nelson - Actor, Suddenly Susan, The Breakfast Club
Tina Louise - Actress (Gilligan's 'Ginger' - origin of the Hebrew word
'Jinji')
larry david writer-producer
Keith Moon - The Who ( Reputedly Jewish )
james spader - actor Jewish?
Elsa Morante, Italian author
Barbara Walters - US television broadcaster
Irwin Chusid- Writer, Record Producer, Radio Personality and Bon Vivant
donna karan - designer
Lawrence Harvey - born Skikne - actor
Judy Kuhn - Broadway Actress (Voice of Pocahontes)
Danielle Harris - Actress
sara gilbert actress-roseanne
patricia wettig - actress-thirtysomething
Leah Remini - actress , sitcom Fired Up
Ricki Lake - talk show hostess
Steven Spielberg - producer, director
Andrew Norden - Pre-Medical lover of women
John Garfield - actor
melanie mayron - thirtysomething
Pinchas Zuckerman -- violinist
Garson Gershon Kanin - actor
Cloris Leachman - actress
Franz Kafka - author
Francesca Neville - Shakespearean actress
Arnold Schoenberg - Composer
Daniel Jonah Goldhagen - author
Gary Schandling - Comedian
Mark Reizen - Great Russian bass, "probably the greatest bass voice Russia
ever
produced"
mike ogulnick - one on one sports radio network anchor
Burt Ward - actor, Robin from Batman Jewish?
Audrey Landers - actress
James Concord Douglas
Estelle Getty - Actress (Sophia, Golden Girls)
Matthew Kuchta -- first porn star with inch penis
Harlan Ellison-Science fiction writer
Morley Safer - Television journalist ( Minutes)
Jack Carter - Comedy
Bill Graham - Late rock promoter extrodinaire
Howie Morris - comedian (Your Show of Shows)
audrey hepburn
Sophie Tucker Abuza - performer ''last of the red hot mamas'
Pee Wee Herman (Paul Rubens)
Paul Auster - author and poet
Steven P. Greenberg - songwriter (Funkytown)
paul michael glazer - actor/director starsky and hutch
Country Joe McDonald - singer (mother)
Robert Downey Jr. - Actor Jewish?
jeffrey archer author
Neil Simon - Broadway playwright
Jonathan Mostow - Screenwriter and movie director
David Harari- Film Maker
Peggy Lipton - Mod Squad Actress From Lawrence N Y
Debra Winger actress
Buddy Hackett - Actor/Comedian
Mark Dixon - Counts cars in Nissan in Sunderland,UK
Neil Sedaka - Singer
Al Cohn - famous saxophone player now deceased
George Segal - actor
Arlo Guthrie, Woody Guthrie's son, mother Marjorie was Jewish
Richard Rogers - Composer
Carolyn Summerlin-Comic/Concert Pianist
amy brenneman actress
Joe Dytko--the first founder of the turrles
Judd Hirsh actor-Taxi
Stan - South Park (Comedy Central) character (Wed. pm EST)
Philip Roth - Author
Jerry Orbach- Briscoe on Law and Order
Alan Alda - actor Jewish?
Al Kooper - Founder, Blood Sweat and Tears
Rodd Keith (real name:Rod Eskelin) song-poem auteur
Matt Fraiberg - owner Guardian Alarm
Chico Marx - Comedian (Marx Brothers)
Chaim Potok - Author
David Broza --Israeli singer/songwriter
Mr. Rogers - TV star... plays with little kids
Are Thue-Jones - Founder of Jew-Tang
Camille Pisarro - Artist
Kathy Levine - QVC Hostess
audrey hepburn actress
Jessica Savitch - NBC News' Former Golden Girl
Peter Mark Richman - Actor/writer/artist
adam arkin actor/chicago hope
Marilyn Michaels - Impressionist
Alan Menken -- composer
george jessel - Toastmanster General
Dani Behr - S.African/British presenter(Giggs' girl)
Yasha Heifetz - Violinist
Lorne Greene - Actor
Pamela Anderson - Playboy model (born Joan Goldstein)
Gustav Mahler - Composer
Phoebe Cates-Costar of Fast Times at Ridgemont High (Real last name: Katz)
Jewish?
Judy Blume - Children's author
Bronco Billy Anderson-silent film cowboy star
Richard Benjamin - actor and director
Charles Bronson - Movie Star
Joey Bishop - comic
MCA (Adam Yauch)- Rap musician, Beastie Boys
Josef Schmidt, Rosa Raisa, Leonard Warren, opera singers
Norm Crosby- Standup comic
James Caan - (Actor) Rollerball etc.
Emma Samms - actress on Dynasty Jewish?
Louise Wener - Frontwoman Britpop band Sleeper
Omri Katz - actor
Richard Lewis - Comedian
Adam Sandler-A GUY THAT WRITES SONGS FOR COOL JEWS!
michael fishman actor-roseanne
Barbara Amiel - writer
Walter Mathau-Actor and Comedian
Norman Greenbaum - 'Spirit in the Sky' musician
Joanna Going - actress
Otto Klemperer - Orchestral Conductor
Randy West - Porno Star
Ralph Lauren
Paul Mazursky - Director, beautiful, meaningful films
Ed Asner - actor
Mark Knopfler - Dire Straits lead vocal and guitarist
Richartd Belzer-actor/comedian
Eddie Cantor - Singer, actor
max weinberg - drummer, bruce springstein, conan o'brien
Mike Nichols - Director ( The Graduate, Catch , The Birdcage )
Patrick Bruel - French Singer
Yaakov Agam - modern painter/sculptor
Rowan Atkinson(?)- Comedian (Mr. Bean, Voice of Zazu in Lion King) Jewish?
Salim Hallali - Famous Singer - Morocco
Benny Goodman - King of Swing
danny jacobson writer/producer
Jean Jacques Goldman, french musician et singer
Adam Duritz - lead singer of Counting Crows
Paul Cohen - Quebecer guitarist
Joan Lunden, real last name Blunden
saul rubinek actor
michael wolf musician
Marty Feldman - actor, comedian
Dave Ehrman - actor
ADRIAN KAPLAN - South African actor
Maurice Schwartz - major figure in Yiddish Theatre
Corey Feldman - Actor
Milton Berle - Comedian
Madeline Kahn - actress (Clue, Nixon)
Matthew Bratter - Musician, Daisy's Red Gravy Train
Donna Karan - designer
Justine Frischman - Frontwoman Britpop band Elastica
sally field - actress Jewish
Arthur Fiedler - Former Boston Pops Conductor
Laurence Tolhurst - Original drummer of The Cure
Brett Sommers - The Match Game
Stanley Kubrick-movies director (clockwork orange,the Shining...)
Richard Tucker - Great hazzan and operatic tenor
Buddy Rich - worlds greatest drummer
Richard Simmons- Live-it, health guru
Aaron Copland - Composer of Appalachin Spring and other great classical
music
George Solti-conductor (Chicago Symphony)
Maury Yeston- Musical composer of shows like Nine, Phantom and Titanic
gabriela karteris -
Irving Layton - Canadian poet
Gary Lewis - Rock Singer ( Jerry's Son )
Ernst Lubitsch- Polish film Director of classic To Be Or Not to Be
Don Adams - agent , Maxwell Smart
Oscar Levant - pianist
Arturo Jimenez - Columbian Real Estate Magnate
Jan Peerce (Pinchus Perlmutter) - great operatic tenor
Mike Gordan-Bass for Phish
Joe Elliot- Def Leppard lead singer
ken olin actor\thirtysomething
David Horowitz - T.V. Personality
Phil Glasser- Actor- An American Tail (Fievel)
Debbie Gibson - Singer Jewish?
Wallace Shawn- actor (Princess Bride, Toy Story, Clueless)
Moshe Weinberg (Vainberg) Russian composer and contemporary of
Shostakovitch.
Relatively
unknown in USA but popular in Former USSR.
Simone Signoret - French actress ('Diabolique')
Clea Lewis - actress/ Audrey on Ellen
Saul Zaentz - Producer ( One flew over..., Amadeus, The English Patient )
Rachel Rosenthal - Los Angeles-based performace artist
Richard Belzer - Comedy
Will Self - British writer (mother)
Roger Hannin - French actor
Fritz Lang - German director of classics as Metropolis and The Vampire of
Dusseldorf
Dr. Laura Schlesinger - Radio host and author
rena sofer actress
David 'Dudu' Fisher - Popular Israeli Singer and Cantor
Vic Tayback-T.V. Costar of Alice
Daniel Day Lewis, British actor (Jewish mother)
Graham Gouldman - member of cc, 's pop songwriter
Dina Meyer - Actress-appears in upcoming film 'Dragonheart'
Abe Vigoda - Fish From Barney Miller
Felix Mendelssohn, composer
Marcel Proust - Second most important writer (after Kafka) this century
Mark Volman co-founder of the turtles
Yul Brynner - definitely Jewish screen actor
arye gross - actor
Michael Gelman - producer of Regis and Kathie Lee
Rain Pryor - actress daughter of Richard, mom Jewish
howard kaylan co-founder of the turtles
David Cronenberg - Canadian director/writer (The Fly)
David Birney - actor-St. Elswhere Jewish?
Rina Mor - Messinger - Israeli Miss Universe -
Randy Spelling - actor son of Aaron Spelling and brother of Tori Spelling
kim zimmer actresss/guiding light
Carl Reiner - Comedian
Mike Bloomfield - Blues Guitarist
Lee Grant - actress/director
Sam Wolff - Mayor Elect/Atlanta (Rabbi Cheamcheese)
Alicia Markova - Ballet dancer (nee Alice Marks).
S. J. Perelman - Writer - Screenplays for Marx' Comedies: Monkey Business;
Horse
Feathers, etc
Yuri Rasovsky - Peabody Award-winning radio dramatist of the s and s.
Edward G. Robinson-Actor(Realname Emmanuel Goldenberg)
Anouk Aimee - French actress ('A Man and a Woman')
Enrico Macias Algerian-French jew Famous?
Melissa Rosenberg - Joan Rivers' daughter/Host E! Entertaiment
Jennifer Jason Leigh
Joely Fisher - actress/Ellen. Half-sister of Carrie.
Mitul Patel - Jewish/Indian actor
Adam Yauch - Musician (Beastie Boys)
Mark Bomer-Jewish Activist and Historian
Pincas Zuckerman
Joe Belgrade - stage and screen actor
Elliot Goldenthal - Movie Composer - Batman and Robin and others
Kent Brockman - TV anchor on The Simpsons Kenny Brockelstein
Henri Bergson - noble prize winner (literature)
Stan Getz - world famous saxophonist
Jim Shapiro - Musician, Veruca Salt
Arthur Koestler - author
Kurt Weil - composer (Three Penny Opera)
Jennifer Jason Leigh - actress
Mark Walberg - Game Show Host(The Big Date)
Al Waxman - actor / Cagney and Lacey
Max Fleischer - Animation Producer (Betty Boop, Popeye, etc.)
Julius Lester - author and professor Jewish?
David Halberstam - Author
Kirk Douglas, nee Isadore Demsky
Fritz Reiner, George Szell, conductors
Joe Besser: one of the three stooges, for a while.
Ronn Owens -San Francisco/Los Angeles Talk Show Host
Lorraine Newman - Saturday Night Live
Aaron Freeman - Chicago radio talkshow host
Stephen Evans - Writer/Director/Actor
Helen Hunt (Father Jewish; Mad About You)
Albert Cohen, French language author
Josh Niehaus - Musician/entertainer/player
kinky friedman -country singer and mystery author
Felix Mendelssohn - composer
Todd Suchman, Styx drummer
Laurin Sydney - Showbiz Today CNN
Michael Kinsley -- syndicated columnist
Robert Merrill - Opera Singer
Jeff Daniels - actor Jewish?
Jerry Stiller - Mr. Costanza and Ben's dad
Helen Shapiro - British singer
Justine Frischmann - lead singer of well known UK indie band Elastica
David Steinberg - comedian/director
Steven Tyler - lead singer in the music group Aerosmith
jackie mason
Shecky Greene - comic
Harvey Korman-Comedian, Costar of The Carol Burnett Show
June Allyson Ella Geisman - actress
Harrison Ford - one Jewish parent
Alain Boublil - Lyricist of Miss Saigon
Sakari Topelius - Old finnish national fairy-teller
Ringo Starr - Beatles drummer.
Isaac Mizrachi -- fashion designer
Jack Klugman - Oscar from The Odd Couple
Paul McKellar-Nazi Hunter, Nationally recognized lectur on Holocaust events.
Fanny Brice - comedian
Doc Severenson - Tonight Show
Jessica Lundy - actress (Hope and Gloria)
Alan Wilder - keyboards player of Depeche Mode
Andrew 'Dice' Clay - Comedian, Actor. Real name is: Andrew Silverberg
Nina Rodzynek - Musician
Justin Wilson- Mais, Cher, ANOTHER famous Cajun
Aaron Rosand, concert violinist
Jennifer Doctorovich - theater actress in Houston ,Texas
Jack Spector - Disc Jockey
Joanna Gleason (daughter of Monty Hall) actress
Elliot Gould- actor, M.A.S.H.
Jon Stewart- Hilarious Jew
Pittsburgh Pete - Radio Actor
Jerry Bock - Composer( Fiddler On The Roof, She Loves Me plus more)
john stossel /
Ross Martin- actor(TV's 'The Wild, Wild West').Real name Martin Rosenblatt.
Lee Konitz - musician (jazz saxophonist)
Charles Grodin - actor/writer
Dan Futterman- Actor (The Birdcage)
Michael Ovitz - Disney
Charles Orange - Poet
Ben Elton - comedian and writer.
Arthur Schnitzler - Viennese playwright, novelist and doctor
Leslie Stahl - Sixty Minutes
Laura Shaff - Bon Vivant, Girl About Town
Debbie Goad - Writer (Answer Me!)
Haim Topol - Actor (Fiddler on the Roof)
Helena Bonham-Carter--her mother is a Rothschild
Hans Rosenthal -- showmaster
Don Black - lyricist of Sunset Boulevard
Laura Bertam, actress on the Disney Channel's 'Ready or Not'
Sid Ceasar - Your Show Of Shows
Jamie Lee Curtis (Father is Jewish)
Robert Clary - Actor (LeBeau from Hogan's Heroes)
Steven Adler-ex drummer for guns n roses
Michael Tucker - Actor, LA Law etc.
Arlene Dahl - Actress
Linda Rondstat -Singer Jewish grandparents
Suzy Mamann Greenberg - Producer of Seinfeld and some other NBC shows
Mick Jones - Musician from the Clash/B.A.D. -- mother Jewish
Rick London (London's Times Cartoon force.supernews.com in Mississippi
Sid Caesar - comedian
Steve Guttenberg - Actor
Jay Diamond - Radio Talk Show Host (used to be on WABC)
Lorenzo Lamas - Actor ( Jewish Mom )
Hy Berkawitz - Owner of Rogers Dept.store in Grand Rapids MI
Bruno Schulz- writer
Adam Faith - British singer
Christopher Lambert - actor (father)
Jackie Kallen - manager of James Toney
Barbara Hershey (Herzstein)- actress- one-time hippie/flower child, now
likes
her lips to be big!
Sasha Mitchell - Actor (Step by Step, Kickboxer )
Sam Levinson - humorist/TV panelist
Ann B. Davis - Actress (Alice in The Brady Bunch)
paula zahn - broadcast journalist cbs
Ramblin' Jack Elliot-folk singer/guitar player
Wendy Mallick - actress ( mostly sitcoms)
Carnie Wilson - former singer (wilson phillips), former talk show host, and
daughter of beach boy
brian wilson (mother marilyn rovell is Jewish)
Arnold Stang - Film Actor
chevy chase -actor comedian
Carly Simon - Singer
Jackie Mason - Comedian
Martin and Charlie Sheen
Ken Berry-T.V. star-Mayberry R.F.D., F Troop
Rob Reiner - Comedian and Movie Director
Totie Fields - Comedienne
Steve Levy -- (ESPN-Sportscenter)
Pope John Paul II -He's the spitting image of my Galitzyaner grandfather
Richard Salwitz - aka Magic Dick, Musician J Geils
Milton Berle - comedian
Chuck Barris - Creator Of The Dating Game
Ian Ziering - actor,
Gene Barry - starred on TV Bat Masterson
Adam Rich - Eight Is Enough
jane kaczmarek actress
Linda (Epstein) Eastman - Paul Macartney's wife
Rona Barret ( Bernstein ) - Gossip Reporter
paul shaffer musician-letterman show
Red Aaron Buttons - comic
Ivan Reitman - Canadian director - meatballs
Tori Spelling - Donna in Beverly Hills
Shelley Berman - comedian
Yves Montand - real name Ivo Livi, famous french singer
Florence Henderson - Brady Bunch, singer
Lyle Waggoner-Comedian and former costar of The Carol Burnett Show
Allen Funt - Host of 'Candid Camera'
Woody Strode - black man from spartacus
Alfons Halim -- yeah... this one is surely Jewish.
Jeff Chandler -- 's movie star
Tony Kushner- Playwright (Angels in America)
Stephanie Powers - Actress
Buzz Aldrin - former US astronaut
Samy Elmaghribi - Famous Singer - Morocco
Art Buchwald - author and columnist
Jonathan Brandis - actor
William Goldman - screenwriter (The Princess Bride)
Walter Lippman - journalist/ founded the New Republic
Josef Szigeti, violinist
Rob Cohen, Director Horror Films
David Helfgott - Brilliant Australian pianist
Jerry Seinfeld -- comedian, tv star
Haim Topol - actour
Dani from Cradle Of Filth (Mother is Ethiopian,Father is Jewish)
Andrew Mark Berman - Actor that was on The Wonder Years and other shows
max weinberg - drummer for bruce springstein, conan o'brien
Lawrence Harvey - Famous actor
Michael Berrin - M.C. Search formally of rd Bass
Arlene Sorkin - Caliope Jones On Days Of Our Lives
Gene Wilder, actor, Silver Streak, Gilda Radner's husband
David Schwimmer - Actor (Ross on 'Friends')
King Diamond - american singer (Mercyful Fate)
Herschel Savage - Porn Star
Julie Kanver- voice of Marge Simpson
Jenna Jameson - porn star/mother teresa protege/wife of SQS
Shelley Winters Shirley Schrift - actress
Tony Randall (Leonard Rosenberg - real name)
Jerry Orbach-actor
sylvia sydney - actress
Jay Black - Jay And The Americans
Samuel Avital - Founder, Boulder Mime Theatre
Dustin Diamond - screech from saved by the bell
Mircea Crisan (Kraus?) romanian entertainer
Paulette Goddard - famous movie actress of the past
Trevor Rabin - Yes
David Gahan - Lead for Depeche Mode
Sydney Rome- Famous Actress
Arnold Schoenberg, famous composer
Josef Von Sternberg - Actor/Director
Robert Clary - actor (Hogan's Heros)
Joel and Ethan Coen - producer, director, writers (Raising Arizona)
fred savage actor-wonder years
Jackie Vernon- comedian
Liv Tyler - actress daughter of Steven Tyler
Mitzi Gaynor - Actress, Dancer, Singer
Neriah Davis- porn star
Mark Feuerstein - actor (comedy Fired Up)
Courtney Love - America's sweetheart
Mickey Hart - Drummer for Grateful Dead (also Mystery Box)
Bess Myerson - first Jewish Miss America
Carole King - nee Klein. Songwriter
Herschel Bernardi - actor
Moe Kauffman - Canadian jazz great
Michele Landsberg - newspaper columnist and Jewish Womens' activist
tony goldwyn - actorghost
Melissa Manchester - Singer
Shlomo Mintz - violinist
Shaun Weiss - Kid Actor(Heavyweights,Mighty Ducks +)
Ross Gelman-actor,comedian,adult entertainer
Vladimir Horowitz - Pianist
Ron Leavitt - Married With Children Creator/Producer
Jason Marsden - actor
Jack Gilford - Comedian/Actor
Serge Koussevitzky - conductor
dianne weist actress
Michel Berger, french composer and singer (tycoon)
Barry Sonnenfeld - director Get Shorty, Addams Family
ron rifkin - actor
Sheldon Harnick - Lyricist (Fiddler On the Roof, She Loves Me plus more)
Lee Zurik (CBS Sports Anchor)
Mr. G - WPIX New York weatherman
Selma Diamond - late gravelly voiced actress from Night Court
Polly Draper - actress (Thirtysomething) Jewish?
Dorothy Rothschild Parker - author and Algonquin wit
Joshua Redman - saxaphonist, Jewish mom
Malcolm McLaren--manager/impresario of the Sex Pistols
Allen Garfield (Goorwitz) - actor
Zohra Lampert - actress
Peter Wolf - Musician
David Susskind - producer
Dan Greenburg - author ('How to be a Jewish Mother')
Sheldon Leonard - late actor/producer
michael lembeck - actor/director
Sonny Fox - children's TV producer/host
Stuart Pankin - former host of HBO *Not Necessarily the News
Bruno Bauer - conductor
Sherwood Schwartz - Creator Of Gilligans Isle
Renee Taylor - Actress (The Nanny) Jewish?
Paul Muni - Actor(Realname Muni Weisenfreund)
Shalom Aleichem-Yiddish Writer
Emma Lazarus - poet ('Give me your tired, your poor,..' from the Statue of
Liberty)
Jonathon Lipnicki - child actor/ Jerry Maguire
Alan Gratzer and Kevin Cronin-musician of REO Speedwagon
Doug Feiger - Musician, The Knack
John Leguizamo-Colombian actor/comedian (Jewish?)
Menahem Golan - Israeli producer/director
Phobe Levy Pember --Confederate Civil War Heroine
Gregg Woodman - The Sidewinder
Jean-Luc Godard- filmmaker
Rick Moranis actor
kim greist - actress: chicago hope/homeward bound
Anthony Newley - singer/composer/actor
Kitty Carlisle-panelist on What's My Line (real last name: Conn)
Claude Rains - Actor (Casablanca)
David Mamet - director-writer (The Verdict, Hoffa)
Allen Ginsberg-all time greatest American poet
Artur Rubenstein - piano virtuoso
Andy Kaufmann - taxi-comic
Dina Sfat, Brazilian actress
William Daniels - actor St. Elswhere
Jerry Ohrbach - Actor
David Milch - Co-producer/writer of NYPD Blue
Bill Pullman - actor Jewish?
Yaphet Kotto - famous actor
Adam Horowitz - Musician (Beastie Boys)
Amos Elon - Israeli writer and journalist
Lisa Edelstein - actress/Relativity
Boris Pasternak - Russian writer
Camryn Manheim - actress (The Practice)
Rick Rubin - Record producer/Def jam co-founder
Andy Ackerman - producer/director (Cheers, Frasier, Seinfeld)
Eddie Fisher - Singer
Georges Bizet-composer of Carmen, Symphony in C
Clifford Odetts-playwright (Golden Boy)
Michael Rappaport - actor
Eugene Ormandy- conductor (purveyor of the Philadelphia sound)
rob schneider - actor/comedian
Roy Lichtenstein- painter
Artur Rubinstein- pianist
John Rubinstein- actor (Family; son of Artur)
Jessica Walter- actress
J.D. Salinger- author (Catcher in the Rye)
F. Murray Abraham- actor (Amadeus)
Sam Jaffe- actor (Ben Casey)
Norman Lear - All In The Family Creator
Marvin Hamlisch - composer of A Chorus Line
EdIsaiah Wynn - actor
Peter Green - Blues guitarist, founder of Fleetwood Mac
Gummo Marx - Comedian (Marx Brothers)
Marianne Faithful - singer, girlfriend of Mick Jagger
Steven Lovy - writer/director of Circuitry Man
Richard Dix - famous movie actor of the twenties and thirties
Mickey Cohen - Gangster
Florenz Ziegfeld - theatrical producer
dan lauria - actor/wonder years
Carl Bernstein - author and journalist
richard masur - actor
Don Rickles - Comedian
joseph papp public theatre
Harold Prince - Broadway Director (Phantom Of The Opera, Cabaret, and many
more)
Benjamin Mor - Benyad from the rap group Blood of Avraham
D. Saevitz - Mazik from the fap group Blood of Avraham
Max Aranoff (sp?), violist of the Curtis String Quartet
Goldie Hawn - Actress
Primo Levi - Writer(Holocaust Survivor)
Adam Goldberg - actor (TV-Relativity, Movies-Higher Learningunfortunetlyand
The
Prophecy)
Shimi Tavori - Outstanding Israeli Singer and Performer
Stephen R. Kuntz - famous attorney at law
Karl Haas-pianist, conductor, acclaimed host of Adventures in Music
Polly Bergen - Actress
hal linden hal lipshitz actor
Arthur Miller - Writer (Death of a Salesman)
Beverly Sills--opera singer and director
Al Jolson--singer and actor
Daniel Stern - Actor
Carly Simons -singer
Fredrick Loewe - Composer( Camelot, Gigi, My Fair Lady, Brigadoon)
John Rubenstein - actor
Tom Bosley - Mr. C. on Happy Days Jewish?
Roberta Peters -- Opera Singer
John Garfield -- 's movie star
Mark Banks - South African comedian
Susan Strasberg, daughter of Lee, stage and screen actress
Betty Friedan - author/ feminist
Stanley Drucker World-ranked clarinetist, NY Philharmonic Orchestra since
Deborah Raffin - Actress
Kevin Pollack - actor
Theda Bara - Silent Actress, original 'vamp'
Natalio Finkelstein - famous violinist in tango orchestras- Argentina
Norman Corwin - pionerr writer, producer, director of American radio drama
Paul Rubin - Comedian and...
Alan Rachins - LA Law
Fania Fenelon -- singer, author, Holocaust survivor;*Playing for Time* is
her
autobiography
Max Weinberg - drummer
Lee Strassberg - Actor
Larry Storch - F Troop Actor
Jeannie Becker - Fashion Television
Phil Silvers - Sgt. Bilko
Kenny G - World renowned Musician(sax)
Daniel Ash and Kevin Haskin - musicians from Bauhaus, British goth band
Billy Wilder - Director (Sunset Boulevard- the movie)
Josh Niehaus - Musician/Entertainer
Yaki Margulies - Well known artist in sea-town
Pierre Monteux - Orchestral Conductor
Mel Tilles--Country and Western singer
Rita Rudner - commedienne
Faye Kellerman - author,wife of jonathan
Herb Edelman - Police Chief on 'Murder She Wrote'
Chip Zien - Broadway actor (Falsettos, Into The Woods)
Leonard Bernstein - composer, conductor
Bruce Adler - singer, dancer, comedian
Yascha Heifetz - violinist
Abigail Van Buren - dear abby
Peter Falk - actor (TV's 'Columbo')
Robert 'Mutt' Lange- owner Flood/Mute records (Depeche Mode)
Martin Gore- songwriter (Depeche Mode)
Stacy Earl- singer
Josh Meisels -- marathon runner
Bill Maher - comedian
maeve kinkead actress-guiding light
Jule Styne - composer of Gypsy
Yarema Hutsaliuk - famous American/French writer
Louie Nye (Neistat) - comedian
david mamet- pulitzer winning playwright
Abigail Van Buren (Dear Abby)-advice columnist
Ralph Bakshi- cartoon director (Fritz the Cat, Cool World)
Lindsey Crouse - actress (Daniel)
Judy Cavitez-actress
Greg Hetson - guitarist for Bad Religion and the Circle Jerks
Jerome Kern - composer of Show Boat
Matt Groening - Creator of the Simpsons
ben savage actor
Robert Lansing - Actor
Claude - Michel Schonberg- composer of Les Mis
Sidney Lumet - Film Director
DENISE KATRINA SMITH(aka Vanity) -mother is jewish
Mark Rothko - Abstract Expressionist Painter
Jane Wiedland - Member of the Go-Gos.
Al Cooper - Musician
roxanne hart actress-chicago hope
Rod Serling - Twilight Zone Creator Jewish?
Ethel Merman - ethel zimmerman performer
Herb Alpert - musician and mogul (Russian Jewish)
Abe Vigoda -- Fish on Barney Miller
Sue Mengers - Agent
David Brenner Comedian
Edward G. Robinson - actor
Paul Muni - Actor ('Louis Pasteur', 'Fugitive from a Chain Gang')
Boris Thomashevsky - Actor (Yiddish theater)
Walter Mosley Writer (mother is Jewish)
Dictators-'s NYC punk rock pioneers-Handsome Dick Manintoba (Richard Blum)
Andy
Shernoff
Ross (The Boss) Friedman Scott(Top Ten) Kempner Richie Teeter
Ted Koppel - television newscaster (ABC Niteline)
Goldy Hawn-actress, First Wives Club
Zachary Hines - son of Gregory and Jewish wife
Adam Sandler- Comedian, songwriter
Erynn Hubbard - actress/comedian
Dr. Ruth - Famous Sex Therapist
Alexander Kipnis - Opera Singer
Emanuel List - Opera Singer
Marie Rappold - Opera Singer
Barbra Streisand-actress, singer
Rita Shane, Norman Mittelmann, Met opera
Jerome Kern, Frank Loesser, Bway composers
Gregor Piatigorsky, Emanuel Feuermann, cellists
Josef Szigeti, Mischa Elman, violinists
Thomas Shlamme - director
Franz Kafka
Joel Grey, actor
Georgia Brown, actress
Judy Holliday, actress
nora ephron - writer/director
Morris Carnovsky, actor
Goddard Lieberson, President of Columbia Records
Adolph Green, lyricist
Bonnie Franklin - Actress
Moira Shearer - famous actress now deceased
Chaim Topol -- singer and actor
Robbie Kreieger - Doors guitarist
Bruce 'Cousin Brucie' Morrow- great 's+'s NYC disc jockey
Richard Hell-punk rocker-Television Heartbreakers Voidoids
Jonathan Silverman - Actor
Mike Diamond - (Mike D.) band member of Beastie Boys
Adam yauch - (MCA) band member of Beastie Boys
Adam Horowitz - (Adrock) band member of Beastie Boys
Amos Oz - Israeli writer philosopher
Silvio Santos- Brazilian humorist
Leo Genn-Famous British actor(Quo Vadis)
Duncan Renaldo - Tv's Cisco Kid (born in Roumania)
Efrem Zimbalist Sr.- World-class violinist
Ricardo Cortez -Film actor (born Jacob Krantz)
Francesca Annis -British actress
Douglas Fairbanks Sr.- Silents star (real name Ulman)
Stuart Whitman- Film actor
Larry Gelbart - Mash producer
Jack Benny, comedian
Alan Klein - briefly manager of both The Beatles and The Stones
Joel Siegel - film critic ABC
Bernard Kalb - CNN Host of 'Reliable Sources'
hart bochner actor-director
Armin Shimerman- 'Quark' on Deep Space Nine
Jonathan Larson - composer of the musical RENT
Matt Groening - Genius Creator of The Simpsons
gary david goldberg - producer
Barbara Walters - Journalist
Shalom Harlow - model need confirmation of being Jewish?
Frank Hope- From Oddville he is the host on the show.
Joseph Brodsky - Winner of the Nobel Prize for Literature,
Natasha Lyonne- jewish actress
Claire Bloom - Actress
Sydney Pollack - Director/Producer
Katrina Neville- soprano- star of Penn State Opera Theatre
Patricia Richardson actress/home improvement
Henry Jaglom - Director of off-beat films
Amy Heckerling - director-writer (Fast Times at Ridgemont High
Arthur Rubinstein - Pianist
Sarah Berhardt - famous French actress-early 's
jason bateman - actor
Isaac Babel - Writer
Nathanael West (Nathan Weinstein) - Writer - Miss Lonelyhearts; The Day of
the
Locust,
Shari Lewis - Children's Entertainer
All the members of The J.Geils Band except for J.Geils
Lisa Loeb - Singer with band Nine Stories (spelling?)
David Schwimmer-in Friends
jessica hecht actress-single guy
Bert Bachrach - popular American composer
Aaron Abel-singer
Serge Gainsbourg-French comoser and singer
Larisa Oleynik - Secret World of Alex Mack
Gertrude Berg - actress (TV's 'The Goldbergs')
Oscar Hammerstein - deceased composer of Broadway musicals
Gene Siskel - film critic (Siskel and Ebert)
Arthur Hiller (director of Love Story)
David Notowitz - Film producer, writer, editor
paul kossoff, guitarist english group free
Barbara Bach - Ringo's Wife Jewish Father
Syl Sylvain - Member of New York Dolls
Shmuel Yosef Agnon - Writer, Nobel Prize Winner
Judy Landers - actress
Linda Lavin - TV Show Alice
OPHELIE WINTER FRENCH ACTRESS AND SINGER
alan arkin actor-father of adam
Elmer Bernstein - musician (composer/conductor)
Daniel Benzali - Actor (The Series: Murder One)
Jill Clayburgh-Actress (An Unmarried Woman, Silver Streak)
Brett 'Da Hit Man' Moses - Proprietor of Atlanta's Tattletales
Rod Steiger - actor (Oscar Winner) Jewish?
Wendy Liebman - commedienne
mel baron -- hero in WW
Estelle Harris - Yiddish actress plays George's Mom on Seinfeld
Larry Floyd Matthews - Country singer/accordianist
Norm Crosby - comedian
beck-musician
Lena Brenner-story teller
Bill Dana - comedian
Al Levine -- WBLI/NY DJ JEWISH?
Manfred Mann - musician
The King Ad Rock (Adam Horovitz)- rap musician, Beastie Boys
Harry James - bandleader (husband of Betty Grable)
Dave Katz - Lead singer of Ekoositk Hookah
Tristan Tzara ( real name Sami Rosenstein ) - french poet (-); begginer of
the
Dadaist Movement
of arts.
Al Lewis - TV Show The Munsters
António José da Silva, o Judeu - Portuguese playwriter, his work is the most
important collection
of portuguese dramatic theatre of XVIIIth cent. Killed by the Inquisition.
Harold Pinter -- English actor and playwriter; founder of the 'absurd
theatre'.
Kim Iglinski - Israeli top-model, discovered in Paris with y/o.
H. Leivick -- Russian poet: 'The Golem'
Steve Lawrence -- popular singer-real name Sidney Liebowitz
mitterrandestein french actor
Michel Boujenah - famous french actor
Arthur Hiller - director (silver streak et. al. )
Louise Lasser - Mary Hartman
Eric Johnson -- solo artist (guitarist)
Gabriel Kaplan - Comic/welcome back kotter
Henny Youngman - Comedian
Malcolm Gets - actor (Richard on Caroline in the City)
Earl Pomerantz- executive producer for the Larry Sander's Show, Major Dad,
(the
old) Cosby
Show
Carol Connors - Wrote theme song for Rocky
Alexey Sayle - Comedian
Jean Claude Van Damme Mother is Jewish
Susan St. James - Actress
Mick Green - Rock guitarist with the Pirates (was Johnny Kidd and the
Pirates)
Greg Wise - actor
Max Miller - English music hall comedian.
Bud Flanagan - English music hall star.
Ruby Wax - comedienne.
Gustav Mahler - composer.
Mendel Feibush - famous Yiddish character actor
Jack Rosenthal - playwrite
Horst Buchholst - actor (one of the Magnificent Seven).
Maureen Lipman - comic actress.
Brian Epstein - impresario (Beatles manager).
Harry Rabinowitz - conductor.
Alfie Bass - comic actor.
Warren Mitchell - actor.
Frankie Vaughan - singer.
Anthony Sher - actor.
Bob Monkhouse - comedian.
Leslie Howard – actor
Leslie Gore – singer
Ronald Harwood - Born in South Africa as Horwitz( playwright)
Harry James - bandleader
Melvyn Douglas - actor
David Helfcott - classical pianist/child prodigy
Artie Shaw - bandleader
Bob Hoskins - Oscar winning actor : got an Oscar for 'Mona Lisa'.
Alma Cogan - singer
Taylor Dayne - Singer
Donald Weilerstein, former first violinist of Cleveland String Quartert
Norman Corwin - American radio dramatist
Viola Spolins - inventor of theater games
Paul Sills - founding director of Second City
Bernie Sahlins- founding producer of Second City
Wayne and Shuster - comedians
Ritz Brothers - comedians
Tony Martin - singer
Marty Balin - singer, Jefferson Airplane (father)
Gwyneth Paltrow - Movie Star(Emma,Seven)(father is Jewish)
Marlee Matlin- Deaf actress-Picket Fences
Saul Bellow - Novelist
Janet Leigh-Movie Star (Psycho,Bye Bye Birdie), mother of Jamie Lee Curtis
Jewish?
Sarah Bernhardt - actress
Robbie Robertson - singer, The Band (father)
Vic Morrow - actor
calvin trillin - writer
Grace Lee Whitney - actress who portrayed Yeoman Rand on 'Star Trek' -
Nichols and May - comedians
Smith and Dale - comedians
Rachel Lipman - Emmy winning tv writer ('Rugrats','Hey Arnold',...)
Rob Morrow - actor
Peter Bogdanovich - director
Maury Povich - Talk show host
Alan Rosenberg - Actor in LA Law and Cybill
Claude Lelouch - French film director
Bert Lahr - comedian
Freddie Prinz - comedian (mother)
Carl Reiner - comedian
Laura Nyro - singer
Molly Picon - actress
eugene levy actor/sctv
Fred Levine--Psychologist
Mary Livingstone - comedian
Mel Blanc - cartoon voice
marlee matlin actress-picket fences
Helen Reddy - singer (converted)
Anne Revere - actress
Lilli Palmer - actress
John Forsythe (John Freund) Actor
Bob Saget - Comedian, Host of America's Funniest Home Videos
Kate Capshaw - actress
Joan Micklin Silver - director, writer (Hester Street, Crossing Delancey)
Steve Goodman - singer
Michael Douglas (Kirk's son) Actor
Ezequiel Antar
Sonia Benezra- french talk show host in montreal
Jason Hervey - costar of the wonder years
Victor Borge - comedian
Susan Cabot - actress
Carmel Myers - actress
Leo Gorcey - actor
Billy Halop - actor
Ben Harris- Scholar Extraordinaire
Michael Krugman - author of Generation Ecch
adam wyle actor-picket fences
Donne Pescow - Angie T V Show
Bruce Morrow (Cousin Brucie) - Disc Jockey
Jerome Robbins - choreographer, director
Albert Suissa - Famous Singer - Morocco
Jules Dassin - film director
Michael Stoyanov - actor he played Tony Ruso on the show Blossom
Murray Kaufman (Murray The K, The Fifth Beatle) - Disc Jockey, WINS
Aaron Spelling - famous TV producer/ daughter Tori on
Barbara Sokol - Grease
Jerzy Kosinski - Novelist
john byrne (born Bronowski) - wanker
tony cowley (born Kaulish) - also a wanker
Barry Miller - Saturday Night Fever
yaphet kotto- capt. g on HOMICIDE
Chris Isaac - Musician, mother is Jewish
Bob Vila - Home-improvement Giant
Harry Ellis Dickson - Former Boston Pops Conductor
Juan Valdez - Columbian coffee guy (born John Feldenstein)
Carol Kane - Actress
Joel Silver - Producer ( Die Hard I,II,III etc. )
Mort Sahl - Comedy
Emil Gilels - Concert Pianist
Jeannie Berlin - Actress
Tony Parisi -- ...of the Village People (cowboy)
Seth Polzer -- famous shepherd from Isreal
Martin Landau - actor
Brad Ray -- famous pin-up boy and rap star
Justin Miller -- first male to receive breast implant
Paul Whiteman, Early big jazz band conductor
Richard Starkey - Ringo Starr - Former Beatle
bugsy siegal-gangster
The Beastie Boys - rap group, all Jewish
jonathon wolfe musician
Michael Buchmann Silver-actor (DA on NYPD Blue)
Israel Horowitz - Playwright
Jennifer Rubin - actress/Screamers
Kirka Babitzin - Finnish singer
Rachel Miner - actress/Guiding Light and is also in the Anne Frank play
Pat Nash - real name-Jacob Goldberg -- Famous Israeli Singer and Cantor ---
Yiddish writer/actor
(Three Penny Opera)
mark moses - actor/single guy
Marilyn Bergman - Songwriter
Mel Torme - singer, actor, songwriter (The Christmas Song)
Maxim Gorgi - Russian writer
Jaime Alissa Yoss - Gymnast extrordinaire, Indy car driver
Martin Mull - Comedy
LEIBER and STOLLER-composers,producers,writers,HOUND DOG, STAND BY
ME,JAILHOUSE ROCK)
Kerry King,Jeff Hanneman-Guitarists for Slayer
cass elliot (Elizabeth cohen) singer of the mammas and the papas
Bob Rivers-Morning Radio host
josh mostel - actor-son of zero mostel
Phyllis Newman - Actress
Sandra Bernhard - Comedian, Actress
Carol Leiffer - commedienne,writer/Seinfeld
John Taylor - Bass of Duran Duran jewish?
James L Brooks - Producer
Anton LaVey-Founder of The Church Of Satan (real name is Howard Levey)
Marilyn Manson-Teenie bopper pop star (Warner is real name)
Edward G Robinson tough guy actor deceased
Tracy Pollan - Actress, wife of Michael J Fox
Shlomo (sp?) Mintz, concert violinist
jonathan kellerman - best selling author
Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons-Musicians for rock band KISS
Mike Stern - Jazz guitarist
Jackie Mason - ordained Rabbi and Comedian
Jonathan Taylor Thomas- Home Improvement
Adam Arkin- actor
Leon Askin - actor, director (General Burkhalter in Hogan's Heroes)
Paul Shaffer- CBS ORCHESTRA , LATE SHOW
piper laurie rosetta jacobs - actress
Sidney Sheldon - best selling author
Barbara Walters-(Baba Wawa)-ABC TV interviewer
Dyan Cannon-actress currently on Ally McBeal
George Gershwin -- composer
Barry Horowitz---Pro Wrestler
Randy 'Macho Man' Savage--Pro Wrestler
Fred Savage - Young actor from Wonder Years
Maya Plisetskaya - Russian balet dancer
Missy Yager - is currently in the Anne Frank play on broadway
Natanya Ross - Actress 'Secret World Of Alex Mack'
Meredith Bishop - Actress 'Secret World Of Alex Mack'
Marion Ross - Actress 'Brooklyn Bridge' and 'Happy Days'
Steve Reich, American composer of minimalist music
Alana Ubach - Actress 'Brady Bunch movie' and 'Airborne'
Philip Glass, American composer of minimalist music
Michael Tilson-Thomas, Conductor classical music , grandson of Tomashefsky,
Yiddish actor
Andre Previn, former jazz pianist, now classical conductor
Juice Newton - Country/pop singer-Queen of Hearts (real last name:Cohen)
Harold Pinter, British playwrite
Sir Gorge Solti, Conductor - especially opera
Ronnie Scott, British jazz saxophonist, founder of Ronnie Scott's Club
Daniel Barenboim, Conductor and pianist
Hermione Gingold, Actress - parents married by British Chief Rabbi !
Warren Mitchell, British actor - especially TV.
James Levine, Conductor
Stephen Perkins - Drummer, Jane's Addiction
Steven Bochco - Producer of NYPD Blue, L.A. Law, Hill Street Blues
Jose Lewgoy, Brazilian actor ( Kiss of the Spider Woman)
Dyan CannonSamille Diane Friesen - actress
Ted Koppel - from ABC news (Broadcaster)
Barbara Walters - / News Broadcaster
Sally Jesse Rapheal - Talk show host
Michael Nyman, Composer - wrote music for film 'The Piano'
Jeremy Isaacs, was director Royal Opera House, Covent Garden
Peter Schaffer, British playwright
Jonathan Miller, British opera director,doctor.
Arnold Wesker, British playwright
Arhur Miller, playwright - once married to Marilyn Munroe
Michael Roll, British pianist
Robert Rietti, British actor
Bernard Levin, British writer, newspaper columnist
Chaim Bermant, British humorous writer, newspaper columnist
Kyra Sedgwick - Star of Phenom,Miss Rose White (mother is Jewish)
John Steinbeck - Famous American Literature Author (i.e. Flight) of the th
Century from Salinas,
California.
Richard Kind - actor (Mad About You, Spin City)
Leslie Nielsen, actor (Airplane, Mr. Magoo)
Robert Crumb, s/s cultural cartoonist
Liz Sheridan - actress (plays Jerry's mom on Seinfeld)
Mike Wallace ( Minutes)
Buck Henry - Comedian/Writer/co-creator of Get Smart
Lee Strasberg - acting teacher
Lynn Samuels - Radio talk show host, WABC radio
Sam Levene - stage and screen actor
Michael Tilson Thomas, Conductor, Grandfather was famed Yiddish actor Boris
Tomashevski
Michael Gross- Actor (Family ties)
ROD STEIGER ACTOR
Maurice Sklar- violinist, plays for Benny Hinn
Red Skelton-Comedian and former T.V. variety show host
Larry Kramer- AIDS activist/Playwright (The Normal Heart, The Destiny of Me)
Scarlett Levine -- Huggies Commercial Star
Brian Epstein - Manager of The Beatles
Harry Shearer - Cartoon Voices on Simpsons/Comedian
Shawn Michaels- Pro wrestler
Sally Kellerman - actress/Mash
richard marx singer/musician
Alex Bendersky- A russian-jewish poet
Caroline Schreiber-singer and actress
Daniel Wayne Matthews - Interstate Commerce Commissioner
Jeffrey Katzenberg - Producer ( Dreamworks )
William Finn- composer (Falsettos)
Didi Pickles - mother of Tommy on the Rugrats
Aaran Tan - Lead singer and guitarist for rock band Phoenix
Aaron Bharatan - ex-Metallica guitarist and former guitarist for Phoenix
Jon Cryer - actor ,Pretty in Pink, The Famous Teddy Z
Richard Dreyfuss - JAWS Actor
Lee Cobb - famous actor
Phil Spector - Record Producer, famous for The Wall of Sound
MELISSA MANCHESTER - Singer-Songwriter-Actress
Leo Rosten -author Joys of Yiddish
Joshua Bell, concert violinist
Bruce Kulick - Guitarist from KISS
Elsa Zylberstein - french actress (played in Mina Tannenbaum)
Anita Diamant - author
Leonid Kogan - world class violinist
Peter Strauss - actor ('Rich Man, Poor Man')
Rebecca Goldstein - author/Mazel
jackie zeman - actress/general hospital
Jascha Brodsky, first violinist of the Curtis String Quartet
Jim Rome - sports talk show host
Michael Zaslow - Roger Thorpe on The Guiding Light
Jim Bleyer - writer
Michelle Tractenberg - actress in the movie Harriet The Spy
Kari Wuhrer-Salin - MTV hostess, B movie actress and hot piece of ass
JOHNNY RIVERS-MUSICIAN
Cy Coleman - Composer (Sweet Charity, City Of Angels)
Cindy Margolis - Beautiful blonde supermodel
Brian Feldman - he could be famous
Shalom Secunda-Composer wrote by meir bist du shane
Assaf Bernstein- top young israeli filmmaker
Amadeo Modigliani - Artist
Delmore Schwartz - Poet (th Cent)
Richard Kline - actor(Three's Company)
Eli Wallach - actor (The Magnificent Seven)
Danielle Fishel --actress
Jamie Luner - Actress, Savannah
Chris Brunecz -comedian (King of Late Night)
RICK MORANIS - ACTOR
Harold Robbins - ne Rubin. Best selling author
Chaim Soutine - Fauvist painter; friend of Modigliani
Jawaad Backstaber-owner of % of shops in FMT,Cal.
Carrie Fisher- author, actress (Star Wars)
Bageleatin' Backstaber-controls of Hollywood
Bloodsucking Richman-Wealthiest Jew alive( studios)
Charlie Chaplin
Lloyd Bochner--Canadian Shakespearean actor, also in Naked Gun /, father of
Hart
Bochner (my
cousin)
Steve Page--lead singer of the Barenaked Ladies (also my cousin)
Al Eisen-- Flushes guy, father of Paul Stanley
Andy Kaufman--Latka on Taxi (have you heard about this one?)
Allan Greenspan--entertainer? (yup, he's a concert violinist by trade)
****************************************************************************
*************************
--Judging by that list, it's hard to believe that Jews represent 2% of the
US population... If you don't think there's any favoritism (i.e. racism)
involved here, you're most likely fooling yourself. By the way, can you name
10 Arab entertainers?
>>You see, I don't have a problem with Jews per se, I
>>just have a problem with groups of people who monopolize the higher
echelons
>>of power and use their influence to insidiously spread their philosophy
>>amongst the unsuspecting masses.
>
> And they're doing this, how, exactly? How is judaism being
>insidiously spread through the unsuspecting masses?
>
--Judaism is not being spread, the Jewish/leftist agenda is. Jews are not
trying to convert anyone, they simply want to change the mentality of the
population. I'll give you an example. If fundamentalist Christians owned and
operated all the TV and movie studios, you would never see gays and lesbians
being portrayed favorably. That goes without saying. But Jews have done
their best in the last 2 decades to make us see homosexuality as being
normal and acceptable. Whenever a gay person is killed, the media screams,
"HATE CRIME! KILLED BECAUSE OF WHO HE LOVED. ANOTHER CASE OF HOMOPHOBIA!"
I'm not saying whether or not that point of view is good, I'm just
illustrating how they have manipulated people through the years and molded
their feable minds. One of the best example of brainwashing is the term
"holocaust". If you look at history, just in the 19th centruy, there have
been several holocausts that have been much more deadly than the Jewish
emprisonment/killings of WW2. Whatever the number is (and let's assume it's
in fact 6 million), it's still a small figure compared to the number of
Gentiles who were robbed, tortured and killed by the Jews (or Jewish
interest/influence) in this century. The Bolshevik Revolution and the
ensuing hostilities alone caused X times more deaths than the so-called
holocaust. Mao's own holocaust - though mostly caused by his stupidity and
for economic reasons - resulted in 30,000,000 deaths in red China, which
completely DWARFS the number of deaths that supposedly occured in the camps
during WW2. Pol Pot's massacre in Cambodia wasn't exactly small change
either. Somehow, it seems that a Jewish life has more value than a Gentile
life. Or perhaps a murder committed by a leftist/Commie can be justified...
It does makes you wonder.
I hope this answers most of your questions.
Iago
Don C. Aldrich wrote in message <37be4d10...@news.skypoint.com>...
>On 21 Aug 1999 04:04:50 GMT, chess...@aol.com (Chesspride) wrote:
>>
I think it is pretty clear that had Benko not agreed to
>this, Fischer never would have become world champ.
--Well, I wouldn't say "never" since Fischer was only 27 at the time and he
could have resurfaced later on to win the title. Of course, he was becoming
more and more reclusive during that period, fighting his personal demons, so
your assumption is not totally false.
pulgao
>>
>>It was Pal Benko, not Reshevsky, who stepped aside for this one (and
>>did so voluntarily).
>>
>>Brady, Profile of a Prodigy (Dover, ISBN 0-486-25925-0), p. 173-174.
>>
>>-- Steve Lopez
>>
>>http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Hangar/5176/index.html
>>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/chesskamikazes
>>
>>
>
>My understanding is that ALL the players in the Zonal (even the one who
>finished last) had to agree to this....not just Benko.
>
Thanks for the info, Eric. Brady was not clear on this point.
Ron Moskovitz
Iago <jim...@netrevolution.com> wrote:
>
>Ron Moskovitz wrote in message <7pk930$8...@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>...
>>In article <kC7v3.623$mV.4...@wagner.videotron.net>,
>>Iago <jim...@netrevolution.com> wrote:
>
>>>For some reason, I
>>>expected you to dismiss it as "tripe". It could be because you're Jewish
>and
>>>you don't appreciate anyone trying to question you or your culture.
>>
>> Nice try, but despite my name I'm not Jewish. Or, at least, no
>>jews would consider me jewish.
>>
>
>--I sincerely apologize for that. With a name like yours, one can easily be
>fooled...
There's no need to apologise. It's not a mistake I find offensive.
>>
>> If that site was a legitimate attempt to show the evils caused by
>>jews, then it might be worth looking at. But it isn't. Why don't
>>you point out the specific articles which you think are "well
>>researched" beacuse, as I said, I'm not going to waste any more
>>of my time sifting through the crap I saw when I looked there.
>>
>
>--Crap? Here are 4 articles that I found very interesting:
>****************************************************************************
>************************************************
>1)
>
>THE FRANKLIN PROPHECY
>Recorded by Charles Coteworth Pinckney
>Delegate to the Constitutional Convention of 1787
<snip>
I would like to see evidence of the veracity of this article. I'm
pretty skeptical about it. (The language, to me, seems far too modern,
for starters.)
That being said, even if it is accurate,
what's the big deal? What if Franklin was an anti-semite? Unfortunately,
there is a long history of public officials being anti semitic,
even in this country.
Our history is full of people who's ideals were inconsistent. (eg,
Jefferson and Washington, crusaders for freedom, owned slaves.)
So even if this quote is accurate (which I doubt) it's not evidence
of the evils of the Jews, rather it's evidence of the prejudice they've
had to put up with.
>2)
>
>The Alien Grip on Our
>News and Entertainment Media Must Be Broken
>
>Who Rules America?
>
>By the Research Staff of National Vanguard Magazine
>PO Box 330, Hillsboro, West Virginia 24946 USA. FAX# 304-653-4690
I've never heard of "National Vanguard" magazine, FWIW.
<snip>
>
>
>Molding American Minds
>For example, a racially mixed couple will be respected, liked, and socially
>sought after by other characters, as will a "take charge" Black scholar or
>businessman, or a sensitive and talented homosexual, or a poor but honest
>and hardworking illegal alien from Mexico. On the other hand, a White
>racist -- that is, any racially conscious White person who looks askance at
>miscegenation or at the rapidly darkening racial situation in America -- is
>portrayed, at best, as a despicable bigot who is reviled by the other
>characters, or, at worst, as a dangerous psychopath who is fascinated by
>firearms and is a menace to all law-abiding citizens. The White racist "gun
>nut," in fact, has become a familiar stereotype on TV shows.
It has. Your endorsement of this article makes it sound like you
have a problem with this. I have no problem with racists of
any type being depicted as nuts. In my experience (which is more
full of such things than I'd like to admit) that's not too far
from the truth.
>As an example, consider the media treatment of Middle East news. Some
>editors or commentators are slavishly pro-Israel in their every utterance,
>while others seem nearly neutral. No one, however, dares suggest that the
>U.S. government is backing the wrong side in the Arab-Jewish conflict and
>that it served Jewish interests rather than American interests to send U.S.
>forces to cripple Iraq, Israel's principal rival in the Middle East. Thus, a
>spectrum of permissible opinion, from pro-Israel to nearly neutral, is
>established.
Wasn't support of the PLO a big radical cause in the sixties?
>Another example is the media treatment of racial issues in the United
>States. Some commentators seem almost dispassionate in reporting news of
>racial strife, while others are emotionally partisan -- with the
>partisanship always on the non-White side. All of the media spokesmen
>without exception, however, take the position that "multiculturalism" and
>racial mixing are here to stay, and that they are good things.
Again, you're endorsing the point of view that this is a problem?
>them to form opinions at odds with those of the media masters. They are
>presented with a single view of the world -- a world in which every voice
>proclaims the equality of the races, the inerrant nature of the Jewish
>"Holocaust" tale,
Your endorsement of this article is shedding more and more light on you
all the time.
<snip>
>Our Responsibility
>Those are the facts of media control in America. Anyone willing to spend a
>few hours in a large library looking into current editions of yearbooks on
>the radio and television industries and into directories of newspapers and
>magazines; into registers of corporations and their officers, such as those
>published by Standard and Poors and by Dun and Bradstreet; and into standard
>biographical reference works can verify their accuracy. They are undeniable,
>and when confronted with them Jewish spokesmen customarily will use evasive
>tactics. "Ted Turner isn't a Jew!" they will announce triumphantly, as if
>that settled the issue. If pressed further they will accuse the confronter
>of "anti-Semitism" for even raising the subject. It is fear of this
>accusation which keeps many persons silent who know the facts.
Here's a better reaction: "So what?" You've established that lots
of big corporations are run by jews. "So what?"
>
>Jewish media control determines the foreign policy of the United States and
>permits Jewish interests rather than American interests to decide questions
>of war and peace. Without Jewish media control, there would have been no
>Persian Gulf war, for example, and no continued beating of the drums for
>another war against Iraq.
Funny, the national media was actually pretty skeptical of the Persian
Gulf war before it happened. And I haven't heard much "continued
beating of the drums" either.
>
>The Jew-controlled entertainment media have taken the lead in persuading a
>whole generation that homosexuality is a normal and acceptable way of life;
>that there is nothing at all wrong with White women dating or marrying Black
>men, or with White men marrying Asiatic women; that all races are inherently
>equal in ability and character -- except that the character of the White
>race is suspect because of a history of oppressing other races; and that any
>effort by Whites at racial self-preservation is reprehensible.
</sarcasm mode on>
The horror! The horror!
</sarcasm mode off.
Okay, so you've now presented an article clearly written by a white
supremacist.
>ALTHOUGH JEWS ARE 2% OF THE NATION, THEY ARE 42% OF CLINTON'S GOVERNMENT
>
>
>CLINTON CONSTRUCTED A JEWISH OCCUPIED AMERICA
<snip>
This may become a refrain, but "So what?"
>
>
>This is why the Clinton Government is a "minority government." It is made up
>exclusively
^^^^^^^^^
The author need to look up the meaning up this word.
>of minorities instead of majority peoples. According to the
>United Nations, all nations shall be ruled by the majority of its citizens
>and not, as in South Africa, by a minority.
<snip>
>Horrible Blasphemies Against Jesus Christ
>
>Gittin 57a. Says Jesus is in hell, being boiled in "hot excrement."
Funny--I thought the Talmud predated Jesus. That implies to me
that a lot of these qutoes might be, shall we say, not entirely
accurate?
Or, as I said earlier, "crap?"
I'm no theologan, so I could be wrong. But I'm pretty sure I'm not.
>Talmud Attacks Christians and Christian Books
If the Talmud predates christianity, it's pretty hard for all this
stuff to be written in it, isn't it? I guess it's easy for
the author of this post to make all this stuff up, because
nobody in his audience is ever going to go look the Talmud up.
>Yebamoth 59b. A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to marry
>a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also eligible to marry
>a Jewish priest.
This is almost certainly made up as there's a section of the old
testament which directly contrdicts the first sentence of the quote above.
Given the questionable veracity of items in this last article,
the main thing I find interesting is that someone would spend so
much time making up crap like that to put on a web site.
But I guess stupidity knows no bounds.
> But look at how Communism treated jews.
>>To call it a "Jewish affair" when Stalin is probably the second-greatest
>>jew-killer (after Hitler) is just stupid.
>
>
>--I would like to see proof of that.
If I have time to research it, I'll email you. Nevertheless, it's
generally accepted as true. I'm sure that's not enough for you
or Adamski, but if I have time, I'll find a source.
>Many of his closest allies were Jewish.
>One that comes to mind is Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich who was chief mass
>murderer for Stalin. He ordered the deaths of millions and the wholesale
>destruction of Christian monuments and churches, including the great
>Cathedral of Christ the Savior. Standing amid the rubble of the cathedral,
>Kaganovich proclaimed, "Mother Russia is cast down. We have ripped away her
>skirts." (N.Y. Times, Sept. 26, 1995).
Communism was anti-religion in general. The fact that it was anti-christian
(and it was--Orthodox Preists were subject to a large amount of
harassment) in no way changes the fact that it was also anti-Jewish.
>Have you
>forgotten about Solomon Morel, a commandant of a post-war Communist
>concentration camp for Germans in Poland? Stalin deliberately put Jews in
>charge of such camps. Morel tortured and murdered thousands of Germans,
>sometimes with his bare hands (cf. "The Wrath of Solomon," Village Voice,
>March 30, 1993 and John Sack, An Eye for an Eye). Morel is comfortably
>esconsed in Tel Aviv. German survivors of Morel's camp have demanded he be
>tried as a war criminal, but for the Establishment media and the phony,
>partisan, "human rights" groups, bringing Morel to justice is simply a
>non-issue. After all, he murdered helpless Germans, so what's the problem???
This is simply irrelevant to the issue of Soviet Russia's treatment
of Jews.
>
>>>Are you dumb enough to claim that the American media is not
>>>under Jewish control?
>>
>> Are there lots of Jews in high media positions? Sure. Is that
>>the same thing as the media being under "Jewish control?" Absolutely
>>not. The point you seem to miss is that there isn't a Jewish
>>conspiracy.
>
>--The problem with that statement is that you can't prove it either way.
>Conspiracies are, by definition, secret. When they become public, it's
>usually after most of the damage is done. It's obvious that Jews have
>conspired in the past and some ramifications of their propaganda are still
>being felt today.
They have conspired in the past HOW?
*snip*
>Pope John Paul II -He's the spitting image of my Galitzyaner grandfather
LOL. I don't think you know how absurd you're starting to sound.
>
>****************************************************************************
>*************************
>
>--Judging by that list, it's hard to believe that Jews represent 2% of the
>US population... If you don't think there's any favoritism (i.e. racism)
>involved here, you're most likely fooling yourself.
Jennifer Grey and Tori Spelling?
Lions and Tigers and Bears, oh my!
>By the way, can you name
>10 Arab entertainers?
I'm not sure. But I think the discrepancy is almost certianly
explained by the fact that it's really only fairly recently that
we've started to see large numbers Arab immigrants in this country.
That, and the fact that while most Jews can "play white,"
most Arabs can't.
>
>--Judaism is not being spread, the Jewish/leftist agenda is. Jews are not
>trying to convert anyone, they simply want to change the mentality of the
>population.
But here's where your argument falls apart. You see, all Jews don't
agree. I guarantee you that large number of the studio heads you
mentioned earlier don't like each other to the point of not talking to
each other. How, then, are they a conspiracy?
>I'll give you an example. If fundamentalist Christians owned and
>operated all the TV and movie studios, you would never see gays and lesbians
>being portrayed favorably. That goes without saying. But Jews have done
>their best in the last 2 decades to make us see homosexuality as being
>normal and acceptable.
You've taken a very small sect of Christians (very few are "fundamentalist")
I'm sure if ultra-orthodox jews ran things, they'd be even more different.
I mean, do you have the slightest understanding of the way Hasidim live?
To compare mainsteam Jews to fundamentalist christians is, well, as
absurd as the amount of bandwith you wasted posting the <snipped> list.
>Whenever a gay person is killed, the media screams,
>"HATE CRIME! KILLED BECAUSE OF WHO HE LOVED. ANOTHER CASE OF HOMOPHOBIA!"
>I'm not saying whether or not that point of view is good, I'm just
>illustrating how they have manipulated people through the years and molded
>their feable minds. One of the best example of brainwashing is the term
>"holocaust".
>If you look at history, just in the 19th centruy, there have
>been several holocausts that have been much more deadly than the Jewish
>emprisonment/killings of WW2. Whatever the number is (and let's assume it's
>in fact 6 million), it's still a small figure compared to the number of
>Gentiles who were robbed, tortured and killed by the Jews (or Jewish
>interest/influence) in this century. The Bolshevik Revolution and the
>ensuing hostilities alone caused X times more deaths than the so-called
>holocaust.
Given the Soviet Union's treatment of it's own jews (and, bringing
this back to chess, let's just look at Boris Gulko as a single example)
blaming Jews for the evils of the USSR is just stupid.
>Mao's own holocaust - though mostly caused by his stupidity and
>for economic reasons - resulted in 30,000,000 deaths in red China, which
>completely DWARFS the number of deaths that supposedly occured in the camps
>during WW2.
True, but this wasn't an attempt at racial genocide.
>Pol Pot's massacre in Cambodia wasn't exactly small change
>either.
Here's a question for you: how many survivor's of Pol Pot's destruction
in cambodia have you met personally? I don't think I've
met any. On the other hand, I've met at least ten people who
survived some aspect of the Holocaust.
The Holocaust is better-known to most Americans because while
most of us don't know many Cambodian immigrants, a lot of us do
know immigrants from Europe--people who's family histories involve
an experience with Hitler's germany. Furthermore, we went to war
with Germany--thus the war, and everything related to it, is
in a greater number of people's experience than anything which
happened in China under Mao or Cambodia under Pol Pot.
>I hope this answers most of your questions.
Unfortunately, it does. But my verdict on that web site still stands:
it's a stinnking load of crap.
-Ron
Fred G.
Best Regards--
Iago
of Jews who are responsible for the spread of Communism. Special focus on
questionable details. It seems to me that you overlooked many interesting
arguments, but that's alright...
>>1)
>>THE FRANKLIN PROPHECY
>>Recorded by Charles Coteworth Pinckney
>>Delegate to the Constitutional Convention of 1787
>
> I would like to see evidence of the veracity of this article. I'm
>pretty skeptical about it. (The language, to me, seems far too modern,
>for starters.)
--I *think* it's been proven true. I will look into it and inform you by
e-mail if/when I find anything. Judging by Franklin's other comments about
the Jews, I wouldn't be surprised one bit.
>That being said, even if it is accurate,
>what's the big deal? What if Franklin was an anti-semite? Unfortunately,
>there is a long history of public officials being anti semitic,
>even in this country.
--I don't think it's about Franklin being an anti-semite, it's about him
warning others of a possible problem. If you look at his predictions, you'll
see that he wasn't far off the mark.
>So even if this quote is accurate (which I doubt) it's not evidence
>of the evils of the Jews, rather it's evidence of the prejudice they've
>had to put up with.
--Was Franklin right or not?
>>2)
>>The Alien Grip on Our
>>News and Entertainment Media Must Be Broken
>>
>>Who Rules America?
>>
>>By the Research Staff of National Vanguard Magazine
>>PO Box 330, Hillsboro, West Virginia 24946 USA. FAX# 304-653-4690
>
> I've never heard of "National Vanguard" magazine, FWIW.
--I've never heard of you, but that doesn't make you worthless!
>>Molding American Minds
>>For example, a racially mixed couple will be respected, liked, and
socially
>>sought after by other characters, as will a "take charge" Black scholar or
>>businessman, or a sensitive and talented homosexual, or a poor but honest
>>and hardworking illegal alien from Mexico. On the other hand, a White
>>racist -- that is, any racially conscious White person who looks askance
at
>>miscegenation or at the rapidly darkening racial situation in America --
is
>>portrayed, at best, as a despicable bigot who is reviled by the other
>>characters, or, at worst, as a dangerous psychopath who is fascinated by
>>firearms and is a menace to all law-abiding citizens. The White racist
"gun
>>nut," in fact, has become a familiar stereotype on TV shows.
>
> It has. Your endorsement of this article makes it sound like you
>have a problem with this. I have no problem with racists of
>any type being depicted as nuts.
--Would you mind if they portrayed Jewish racists (who only eat kosher food
and see themselves as the "chosen people") as nuts too? It has to work both
ways.
In my experience (which is more
>full of such things than I'd like to admit) that's not too far
>from the truth.
--My problem is that they do show many idiotic Klan members with their silly
rituals, while ignoring well-spoken, intelligent people like me. Would it be
that a hillbilly with a laughable accent and a low IQ is more entertaining
than watching an attractive, well-groomed, knowledgeable and eloquent
person? It seems ok to stereotype on one side of the issue, but would they
ever portray a Jew as a kike?
>>Another example is the media treatment of racial issues in the United
>>States. Some commentators seem almost dispassionate in reporting news of
>>racial strife, while others are emotionally partisan -- with the
>>partisanship always on the non-White side. All of the media spokesmen
>>without exception, however, take the position that "multiculturalism" and
>>racial mixing are here to stay, and that they are good things.
>
> Again, you're endorsing the point of view that this is a problem?
--Yes. If you don't know why, look at the quote from Israel Cohen in my
previous post. Some of us are against race mixing and we won't apologize for
it. Why is it that when Jews choose not to date and marry outside their
race/faith, that's ok, but that white Christians can't have the same
attitude? By the way, the US was founded by white Christians FOR white
Christians, just like Israel was "founded" (stolen) by Jews, for Jews. I'd
like to see a Chinese man get a pemanent citizenship in Israel...
> <snip>
>>Our Responsibility
>>Those are the facts of media control in America. Anyone willing to spend a
>>few hours in a large library looking into current editions of yearbooks on
>>the radio and television industries and into directories of newspapers and
>>magazines; into registers of corporations and their officers, such as
those
>>published by Standard and Poors and by Dun and Bradstreet; and into
standard
>>biographical reference works can verify their accuracy. They are
undeniable,
>>and when confronted with them Jewish spokesmen customarily will use
evasive
>>tactics. "Ted Turner isn't a Jew!" they will announce triumphantly, as if
>>that settled the issue. If pressed further they will accuse the confronter
>>of "anti-Semitism" for even raising the subject. It is fear of this
>>accusation which keeps many persons silent who know the facts.
>
> Here's a better reaction: "So what?" You've established that lots
>of big corporations are run by jews. "So what?"
--So what? They represent 2% of the US population, but they control the
media, the government and a good part of the business world. So what? 90% of
Jews are leftists/liberals/socialists, many of them are zionists/racists. Is
it healthy for a country to be under the control of a questionable minority?
If they weren't anti-Christian racists, if they weren't leftists pushing
their agenda, if they didn't try to brainwash the masses, I wouldn't mind so
much.
>>The Jew-controlled entertainment media have taken the lead in persuading a
>>whole generation that homosexuality is a normal and acceptable way of
life;
>>that there is nothing at all wrong with White women dating or marrying
Black
>>men, or with White men marrying Asiatic women; that all races are
inherently
>>equal in ability and character -- except that the character of the White
>>race is suspect because of a history of oppressing other races; and that
any
>>effort by Whites at racial self-preservation is reprehensible.
>
> </sarcasm mode on>
> The horror! The horror!
> </sarcasm mode off.
--You're avoiding the real issue here. They have tried to change people's
attitudes with their influence. If you don't see a problem with that, it
says a lot about you.
> Okay, so you've now presented an article clearly written by a white
>supremacist.
--I would say that he's proud to be white, which is almost illegal now,
right? It's funny though, you don't seem to have a problem with Jewish
supremacists.
>>ALTHOUGH JEWS ARE 2% OF THE NATION, THEY ARE 42% OF CLINTON'S GOVERNMENT
>>
>>
>>CLINTON CONSTRUCTED A JEWISH OCCUPIED AMERICA
>
> <snip>
>
> This may become a refrain, but "So what?"
--I've given you 100 reasons already. Randomly: it's a problem because most
Jews are leftists who want to do "what is good for the Jews" (as B'nai
B'rith puts it) and not always what is right/good for the country or the
world. It looks like you're very uninformed.
>>Horrible Blasphemies Against Jesus Christ
>>
>>Gittin 57a. Says Jesus is in hell, being boiled in "hot excrement."
>
> Funny--I thought the Talmud predated Jesus. That implies to me
>that a lot of these qutoes might be, shall we say, not entirely
>accurate?
--Actually, the oral tradition of the talmud started in 1400 BC, but it was
only written and completed between 300-500 AD. Nice try though. Because
Christian scholars periodically obtained copies of the Talmud, Talmudic
scribes hoped to deceive them by using the name Balaam to denote Jesus. In
The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia , under the heading "Balaam," it says, " .
. . the pseudonym 'Balaam' given to Jesus in Sanhedrin 106b and Gittin 57a."
The Talmud repeatedly uses obscure words to denote Gentiles with an
assortment of names such as Egyptian, heathen, Cuthean, and idolater. In the
most popular English-language translation of the Talmud, called the Soncino
edition, the practice is illustrated by the fifth footnote of the book of
Sanhedrin. It reads,"Cuthean (Samaritan) was here substituted for the
original goy . . . " Christians are sometimes referred to by the code word
"Min" or "Minim." The footnotes of the Soncino edition of the Talmud as
well as passages in the Jewish Encyclopedia blatantly mention this
deception. In other passages in the Talmud I discovered a possible reason
why some of the Talmud's writers had forbidden Gentiles to read it. The
Talmud's words are vitriolic:
* Only Jews are human. [Gentiles] are animals. (Baba Mezia 1 14a-1 14b.)
* For murder, whether of a Cuthean [Gentile] by a Cuthean, or of an
Israelite by a Cuthean, punishment is incurred; but of a Cuthean by an
Israelite, there is no death penalty. (Sanhedrin 57a)
* Even the best of the [Gentiles] should be killed. (Babylonian Talmud)
* If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not
known and do the evil there. (Moed Kattan 17a.)
* Gentiles' flesh is as the flesh of asses and whose issue is like the
issue of horses.
* If a heathen [Gentile] hits a Jew, the Gentile must be killed. Hitting a
Jew is hitting God. (Sanhedrin 58b.)
* If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no
liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite [Gentile] gores an ox of an
Israelite. . .the payment is to be in full. (Baba Kamma 37b.)
* If a Jew finds an object lost by a heathen [Gentile] it does not have to
be returned. (Baba Mezia 24a; Affirmned also in Baba Kamma 113b.)
* God will not spare a Jew who marries his daughter to an old man or takes
a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean [Gentile].
. . (Sanhedrin 76a.)
* What a Jew obtains by theft from a Cuthean [Gentile] he may keep.
(Sanhedrin 57a.)
* [Gentiles] are outside the protection of the law and God has 'exposed
their money to Israel.' (Baba Kamma 37b.)
* Jews may use lies ('subterfuges') to circumvent a [Gentile]. (Baba Kamma
1 13a.)
* All [Gentile] children are animals. (Yebamoth 98a.)
* [Gentiles] prefer sex with cows. (Abodah Zarah 22a-22b.)
* The vessels of [Gentiles], do they not impart a worsened flavor to the
food cooked in them? (Abodah Zarah 67b.)
--Since you snipped 99% of the quotes, I thought I'd post a few of them
again. It's funny how you focused on one little point that you could attack
(even though you were wrong), and totally dismissed the whole thing. Truth
be told, the talmud is a hateful book that makes Mein Kampf look like a
romance novel.
> Given the questionable veracity of items in this last article,
>the main thing I find interesting is that someone would spend so
>much time making up crap like that to put on a web site.
>
> But I guess stupidity knows no bounds.
--Time for you to look in the mirror now. (Or at least say, "I was wrong.")
>>Have you
>>forgotten about Solomon Morel, a commandant of a post-war Communist
>>concentration camp for Germans in Poland? Stalin deliberately put Jews in
>>charge of such camps. Morel tortured and murdered thousands of Germans,
>>sometimes with his bare hands (cf. "The Wrath of Solomon," Village Voice,
>>March 30, 1993 and John Sack, An Eye for an Eye). Morel is comfortably
>>esconsed in Tel Aviv. German survivors of Morel's camp have demanded he be
>>tried as a war criminal, but for the Establishment media and the phony,
>>partisan, "human rights" groups, bringing Morel to justice is simply a
>>non-issue. After all, he murdered helpless Germans, so what's the
problem???
>
> This is simply irrelevant to the issue of Soviet Russia's treatment
>of Jews.
--It shows 2 things: 1) It doesn't always work both ways with the Jews. The
atrocities in the so-called holocaust are well-known, but the horrors that
Germans had to endure at the hands of Jewish tyrans are only known by those
who care enough to do some serious research. 2) If Stalin put Jews in such
high places, they must not have been on top of his enemy list.
>>--The problem with that statement is that you can't prove it either way.
>>Conspiracies are, by definition, secret. When they become public, it's
>>usually after most of the damage is done. It's obvious that Jews have
>>conspired in the past and some ramifications of their propaganda are still
>>being felt today.
>
> They have conspired in the past HOW?
--How about that Bolshevik Revolution and the spread of the Communist
movement around the world? I posted the list yesterday. Stealing the land of
Israel isn't a conspiracy to you? The Communist infiltration of Washington
and Hollywood wasn't part of a conspiracy? The socialist infiltration of
colleges/universities in the late 60's? And how about Israel Cohen's plan to
raise the status of blacks and create racial tensions? It worked pretty
well, don't you think? After all, the Jews founded the NAACP and pushed for
Affirmative Action (the most hateful, racist policy you could ever imagine).
I could also mention that America's values have greatly shifted in the last
50 years. Jews have managed to undermine Christian morals and principles
with their constant propaganda (hidden under themes such as "progress" or
"feminism" or "racial equality" or "sexual revolution" or "tolerance"). If
you don't see anything wrong here, you're very deluded...
>>--Judaism is not being spread, the Jewish/leftist agenda is. Jews are not
>>trying to convert anyone, they simply want to change the mentality of the
>>population.
>
> But here's where your argument falls apart. You see, all Jews don't
>agree. I guarantee you that large number of the studio heads you
>mentioned earlier don't like each other to the point of not talking to
>each other. How, then, are they a conspiracy?
>
--You simplify too much. Even if they don't like each other, they mostly
share the same philosophical and political views, and they use their power
to influence the masses. Easy example: Hollywood has produced movies such as
Sophie's Choice and Schindler's List where the Jews are "the poor, opprossed
people" but I don't recall them making a movie showing the evils they have
perpetrated throughout history. Can you? I rarely see Jews portrayed as
money-hungry, deceitful kikes. Gee, I wonder why. And, as you know, Jews
will always hire a Jew instead of a white Christian, if they have a choice.
I'm only assuming here since I don't have data, except for the
disproportionate number of Jews in Show-biz and other high places.
>>Mao's own holocaust - though mostly caused by his stupidity and
>>for economic reasons - resulted in 30,000,000 deaths in red China, which
>>completely DWARFS the number of deaths that supposedly occured in the
camps
>>during WW2.
>
> True, but this wasn't an attempt at racial genocide.
--No, but it doesn't make it any better.
>>Pol Pot's massacre in Cambodia wasn't exactly small change
>>either.
>
> Here's a question for you: how many survivor's of Pol Pot's destruction
>in cambodia have you met personally? I don't think I've
>met any. On the other hand, I've met at least ten people who
>survived some aspect of the Holocaust.
--And your point is? The fact that you've never met a survivor from Pol
Pot's madness doesn't change a thing. From what I've read, it was much more
violent than the WW2 holocaust. It seems that atrocities committed by
leftists/commies/socialists aren't discussed as openly.
> The Holocaust
--Wow, it's now "The Holocaust" to you? As if it were the only one that
mattered.
is better-known to most Americans because while
>most of us don't know many Cambodian immigrants, a lot of us do
>know immigrants from Europe--people who's family histories involve
>an experience with Hitler's germany.
--It depends on where you live and how old you are. I've never met an
immigrant from Europe who was affected by Hitler's Germany (did you omit the
capital "G" on purpose?). It's probably because of my location. But I would
say that the media's constant propaganda is the main reason why people are m
ore familiar with it.
>But my verdict on that web site still stands:
>it's a stinnking load of crap.
--When you want to see crap, you will find crap.
Iago
Iago
Fred G. wrote in message <7pkto1$j3g$1...@autumn.news.rcn.net>...
>Thanks for sharing your deep insights and awesome intelligence.
-- Since this remark is coming from a guy whose rating is 1200 points below
mine, I'll disregard the pathetic attempt at humor and take it as a
compliment. Anyone who disagrees with you can't possibly be a genius, right?
>I bet you're a big hit with the girls, too!
--That's typical. Unable to provide any arguments to make his case, the
simple man resorts to childish insults. Someone who disagrees with you can't
possibily be attractive and charismatic, right? That's unshakable logic!
Unfortunately for you, Fred, I happen to be very slick and attractive.
Simply put, I'm your worst nightmare.
As usual, your posts are just filled with intricate analysis and powerful
arguments based on thorough research. I used to think that Jews were highly
intelligent, but people like you make me wonder...
"One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail."
Rabbi Perin in his eulogy at the funeral of New York doctor Baruch
Goldstein, who used an assault rifle to massacre 29 men, women and children
worshipping at a mosque (quote first reported Feb. 28, 1994 by Clyde
Haberman in the New York Times).
Ron Moskovitz
Iago <jim...@netrevolution.com> wrote:
>--Masterful snipping job, by the way. No mention of Israel Cohen or the list
>of Jews who are responsible for the spread of Communism. Special focus on
>questionable details. It seems to me that you overlooked many interesting
>arguments, but that's alright...
I called attention to the "questionable details" that I was capable of
questioning. IMHO a source which includes too many falsehoods loses
a lot of it's credibility. If I can find many things which I know
are false, I'm going to be highly skeptical of the things which I
know nothing about reported in the same source.
Incidentally, I snipped vigourously because it's a general waste
of bandwidth to simply repeat what you already posted. I only wanted
to leave in enough to make it clear what I was responding to.
Simple netiquette.
>
>--I don't think it's about Franklin being an anti-semite, it's about him
>warning others of a possible problem. If you look at his predictions, you'll
>see that he wasn't far off the mark.
I think it is a question about anti-semiticism. He calls jews
"vampires" (a word I'm not sure was common in English
for another 50 years or so, but I could be wrong on that)
>>So even if this quote is accurate (which I doubt) it's not evidence
>>of the evils of the Jews, rather it's evidence of the prejudice they've
>>had to put up with.
>
>
>--Was Franklin right or not?
I don't think he was.
>> I've never heard of "National Vanguard" magazine, FWIW.
>
>
>--I've never heard of you, but that doesn't make you worthless!
No, but I'm curious if this is a magazine with a reasonable reputation.
Judging from the poor journalistic style of the article, I'm
going to wager "no." Being published in a magazine which no-one
has heard of doesn't really make the article any more signifigant
than if it were never published at all.
>>
>> It has. Your endorsement of this article makes it sound like you
>>have a problem with this. I have no problem with racists of
>>any type being depicted as nuts.
>
>--Would you mind if they portrayed Jewish racists (who only eat kosher food
>and see themselves as the "chosen people") as nuts too? It has to work both
>ways.
No. I wouldn't mind at all. In my experience there are quite a few
"Jewish racists" (the schoolmaster of a college friend, for example,
who told him that for him to marry a non-Jew was the equivalent of
killing his ancestors.) There are parents in Israel who are volunteering
to have their kids live their entire life in a special compound
above the ground so that they'll be pure enough to build the temple,
when the time comes. (I'm simplifying the theology here--a red cow
fits in there somewhere). Are these people nuts? IMHO yes.
> In my experience (which is more
>>full of such things than I'd like to admit) that's not too far
>>from the truth.
>
>--My problem is that they do show many idiotic Klan members with their silly
>rituals, while ignoring well-spoken, intelligent people like me. Would it be
>that a hillbilly with a laughable accent and a low IQ is more entertaining
>than watching an attractive, well-groomed, knowledgeable and eloquent
>person? It seems ok to stereotype on one side of the issue, but would they
>ever portray a Jew as a kike?
That's a reasonable question. It might be that people of your views
tend to hide under rocks (or sheets). If you want to stand up and
be heard for your views, why are you hiding behind that rather
appropriate pseudonym? (Or is your name Jim Page?)
>>>Another example is the media treatment of racial issues in the United
>>>States. Some commentators seem almost dispassionate in reporting news of
>>>racial strife, while others are emotionally partisan -- with the
>>>partisanship always on the non-White side. All of the media spokesmen
>>>without exception, however, take the position that "multiculturalism" and
>>>racial mixing are here to stay, and that they are good things.
>>
>> Again, you're endorsing the point of view that this is a problem?
>
>
>--Yes. If you don't know why, look at the quote from Israel Cohen in my
>previous post. Some of us are against race mixing and we won't apologize for
>it. Why is it that when Jews choose not to date and marry outside their
>race/faith, that's ok, but that white Christians can't have the same
>attitude?
I think earlier comments of mine have pretty clearly condemned this
from either side.
>By the way, the US was founded by white Christians FOR white
>Christians, just like Israel was "founded" (stolen) by Jews, for Jews. I'd
>like to see a Chinese man get a pemanent citizenship in Israel...
Well, let's get our history straight. Israel was largely founded due
to the influence of a group of evangelical christians in the Brittish
government after WWII. Why, do you ask? I'm sure Holocause guilt
played a role, but it's also that evangelical theology holds
that for the second coming of christ to happen, there must
be a jewish state in israel, Jerusalem must be a jewish city,
and the temple must be rebuild (among other things).
>>
>> Here's a better reaction: "So what?" You've established that lots
>>of big corporations are run by jews. "So what?"
>
>
>--So what? They represent 2% of the US population, but they control the
>media, the government and a good part of the business world. So what?
>90% of
>Jews are leftists/liberals/socialists, many of them are zionists/racists.
Please provide evidence for this assertion.
>Is
>it healthy for a country to be under the control of a questionable minority?
>If they weren't anti-Christian racists, if they weren't leftists pushing
>their agenda, if they didn't try to brainwash the masses, I wouldn't mind so
>much.
I find this pretty funny, because I don't think most jews are
trying to "brainwash" the masses.
My question is this: you have a big problem with "leftist" pushing
their adgenda. Do you also have a problem with the radical right
pushing /their/ agenda? Or is it just that the "leftists" are
pushing an agenda you disagree with.
>>
>> </sarcasm mode on>
>> The horror! The horror!
>> </sarcasm mode off.
>
>
>--You're avoiding the real issue here. They have tried to change people's
>attitudes with their influence. If you don't see a problem with that, it
>says a lot about you.
Isn't that what you're doing with this post? Doesn't everybody
try to "change people's attitudes with their influence" every time
they have a debate with someone? This is not an inherently evil activity.
>> Okay, so you've now presented an article clearly written by a white
>>supremacist.
>
>--I would say that he's proud to be white, which is almost illegal now,
>right? It's funny though, you don't seem to have a problem with Jewish
>supremacists.
Nothing I've said can, in my opinion, be construed as saying that
I support "Jewish supremacists". If you're going to accuse me of
this, please cite specifics.
>>>ALTHOUGH JEWS ARE 2% OF THE NATION, THEY ARE 42% OF CLINTON'S GOVERNMENT
>>>
>>>
>>>CLINTON CONSTRUCTED A JEWISH OCCUPIED AMERICA
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> This may become a refrain, but "So what?"
>
>--I've given you 100 reasons already. Randomly: it's a problem because most
>Jews are leftists who want to do "what is good for the Jews" (as B'nai
>B'rith puts it) and not always what is right/good for the country or the
>world. It looks like you're very uninformed.
I'd like you to cite examples of how members of Clinton's cabinet
have done things whith are "good for the jews" but "not..what is right/
good for the country." Specifics, please.
>>>Horrible Blasphemies Against Jesus Christ
>>>
>>>Gittin 57a. Says Jesus is in hell, being boiled in "hot excrement."
>>
>> Funny--I thought the Talmud predated Jesus. That implies to me
>>that a lot of these qutoes might be, shall we say, not entirely
>>accurate?
>
>
>--Actually, the oral tradition of the talmud started in 1400 BC, but it was
>only written and completed between 300-500 AD. Nice try though.
Indeed. You're right on this one. I looked it up after posting. I found
a date of 150 CE or so, but the difference is quibbling.
Well, it's just words. Hitler would have been forgotten if he
just wrote Mein Kampf. Do you want to talk about actually doing things
to people? Lets look at the evils Christianity has done in god's name.
The Spanish Inquisition, for example, burned people alive at the stake.
I'm not pointing this out to kick Christianity, but merely
to bring to your attention that pretty much every religion has
some sordidness in it's underbelly. Most Jews are pretty ignorant
of the Talmud--I'd say that it has as little to do with how most
modern Jews feel today as the Spanish Inquisition does with
how most Christians feel and think today.
Citing it as evidence of Jewish evil strikes me as completely
irrelevant, in other words.
I'm not snipping your post, as I said before, to hide points you've
made. I'm simply trying to not waste badwidth by repeating things
unneccesarily. It's simple netiquette.
>>>Have you
>>>forgotten about Solomon Morel, a commandant of a post-war Communist
>>>concentration camp for Germans in Poland? Stalin deliberately put Jews in
>>>charge of such camps. Morel tortured and murdered thousands of Germans,
>>>sometimes with his bare hands (cf. "The Wrath of Solomon," Village Voice,
>>>March 30, 1993 and John Sack, An Eye for an Eye). Morel is comfortably
>>>esconsed in Tel Aviv. German survivors of Morel's camp have demanded he be
>>>tried as a war criminal, but for the Establishment media and the phony,
>>>partisan, "human rights" groups, bringing Morel to justice is simply a
>>>non-issue. After all, he murdered helpless Germans, so what's the
>problem???
>>
>> This is simply irrelevant to the issue of Soviet Russia's treatment
>>of Jews.
>
>--It shows 2 things: 1) It doesn't always work both ways with the Jews. The
>atrocities in the so-called holocaust are well-known, but the horrors that
>Germans had to endure at the hands of Jewish tyrans are only known by those
>who care enough to do some serious research.
Point conceeded. So? There are lots of dark corners
of history which require some digging to discover. You've found some
which reveal evil done by Jews. I never claimed that individual Jews
were incapable of evil.
> 2) If Stalin put Jews in such
>high places, they must not have been on top of his enemy list.
Stalin put a lot of people in high places who he later killed (or you've
not heard of his rather infamous purges?)
>>>--The problem with that statement is that you can't prove it either way.
>>>Conspiracies are, by definition, secret. When they become public, it's
>>>usually after most of the damage is done. It's obvious that Jews have
>>>conspired in the past and some ramifications of their propaganda are still
>>>being felt today.
>>
>> They have conspired in the past HOW?
>
>
>--How about that Bolshevik Revolution and the spread of the Communist
>movement around the world? I posted the list yesterday.
How is this a "conspiracy?". Furthermore, I think your insistence
on calling communism jewish simply ignores the reality of Soviet
Communism.
>Stealing the land of
>Israel isn't a conspiracy to you?
Nope.
>The Communist infiltration of Washington
>and Hollywood wasn't part of a conspiracy?
>The socialist infiltration of
>colleges/universities in the late 60's?
What I find amusing is that you blame jews for all this. (As if
there's really been a "communist infiltration of Washington").
>And how about Israel Cohen's plan to
>raise the status of blacks and create racial tensions? It worked pretty
>well, don't you think?
>After all, the Jews founded the NAACP and pushed for
>Affirmative Action (the most hateful, racist policy you could ever imagine).
Whatever.
>I could also mention that America's values have greatly shifted in the last
>50 years.
They have. I think it's absurd, however to "blame" (some--including
myself, would say "credit") Jews for this.
>Jews have managed to undermine Christian morals and principles
>with their constant propaganda (hidden under themes such as "progress" or
>"feminism" or "racial equality" or "sexual revolution" or "tolerance"). If
>you don't see anything wrong here, you're very deluded...
I don't see anything wrong with feminism or racial equality or tolerance.
I guess I'm just very deluded.
>>>--Judaism is not being spread, the Jewish/leftist agenda is. Jews are not
>>>trying to convert anyone, they simply want to change the mentality of the
>>>population.
>>
>> But here's where your argument falls apart. You see, all Jews don't
>>agree. I guarantee you that large number of the studio heads you
>>mentioned earlier don't like each other to the point of not talking to
>>each other. How, then, are they a conspiracy?>
>--You simplify too much. Even if they don't like each other, they mostly
>share the same philosophical and political views, and they use their power
>to influence the masses. Easy example: Hollywood has produced movies such as
>Sophie's Choice and Schindler's List where the Jews are "the poor, opprossed
>people" but I don't recall them making a movie showing the evils they have
>perpetrated throughout history. Can you? I rarely see Jews portrayed as
>money-hungry, deceitful kikes.
You must not be watching many movies, then, because ther are still
plenty. The ADL is an active organization which gets on people's
case when this happens. (Just to cite on recent example, there
were some complaints that the Ferengi on Star Trek were a little
more that the sum of negative Jewish Stereotypes. Or you could look at
Jewish characters in "Mo Better Blues"--to cite another.)
>Gee, I wonder why. And, as you know, Jews
>will always hire a Jew instead of a white Christian, if they have a choice.
>I'm only assuming here since I don't have data, except for the
>disproportionate number of Jews in Show-biz and other high places.
You assume. Glad to know you're so grounded in facts.
>> True, but this wasn't an attempt at racial genocide.
>
>
>--No, but it doesn't make it any better.
No, it doesn't. But it might explain why there are fewer
torch-bearers for the cause. If people feel specifically
persecuted, it strikes me as obvious that they're going to
remember that persecution.
Then again, it's quite probable that in Taiwan (where the
Chang Kai-Shek government fled after the rise of Communist
china) that Mao's crimes are remembered much more vividly
than Hitler's.
>>>Pol Pot's massacre in Cambodia wasn't exactly small change
>>>either.
>>
>> Here's a question for you: how many survivor's of Pol Pot's destruction
>>in cambodia have you met personally? I don't think I've
>>met any. On the other hand, I've met at least ten people who
>>survived some aspect of the Holocaust.
>
>
>--And your point is? The fact that you've never met a survivor from Pol
>Pot's madness doesn't change a thing. From what I've read, it was much more
>violent than the WW2 holocaust. It seems that atrocities committed by
>leftists/commies/socialists aren't discussed as openly.
You managed to miss my point. You asked why we remember the Holocaust
more than these other things, and I say that's because the
Holocaust happened to people we know. Pol Pot's massacres didn't.
That--not the number of people killed, nor the brutality of the
killing--is the relevant issue in our memory.
Another example: history has almost entirely forgotted Von Trotha's
"elimation order" in South Africa at the beginning of the century.
Von Trotha, a german military officer, bassically gave the order
to kill all the Herreros (an ethnic group of black africans) by
matching them to death. Is this forgotten because it's not horrible?
No. I think it's largely forgotted because nobody knows any herreros.
There aren't many people around today in the US who's grandparents
remember being almost marched to death by Von Trotha. There
are a bunch of people who's grandparents remember Auscwitz.
I'm not saying that any of these evils are greater than or lesser
than others--I'm just giving reasons why some of them stick in
our collective memory more vividly. Try to keep that in mind.
>
>--It depends on where you live and how old you are. I've never met an
>immigrant from Europe who was affected by Hitler's Germany (did you omit the
>capital "G" on purpose?). It's probably because of my location. But I would
>say that the media's constant propaganda is the main reason why people are m
>ore familiar with it.
Well, where do you live? If you live in a part of the US without
a large immigrant population, that's understandable. But most
of the large media centers in the US (NY, LA, San Francisco, Chicago)
have large numbers of European immigrants. That might be part of the
reason.
Fred G.
Iago <jim...@netrevolution.com> scribbled:
> --That's typical. Unable to provide any arguments to make his case, the
> Simply put, I'm your worst nightmare.
Wrong. Dan Quale is my worst nightmare.
You're my second worst nightmare.
Adamski
<rm...@netcom.com> writes
> Really? I'd like to know why a few jews in high places is
>evidence of a conspiracy, while a few non-jews of similar
>race or religious beliefs isn't.
>
> Please don't tell me you've bought in to all this, too, Adamski.
>
> -Ron
I like Jews, I think every family should have one.
Adamski would like to have Sofia Polgar. Or Sandra Bullock. A toss-up
between the two anyway.
Iago
>>--Was Franklin right or not?
>
> I don't think he was.
--I just read it again and I don't think he could have made a better
prediction.
> That's a reasonable question. It might be that people of your views
>tend to hide under rocks (or sheets).
--OR SHEETS? I don't like to be compared to those people. My overall
philosophy is MUCH different than theirs in many aspects.
If you want to stand up and
>be heard for your views, why are you hiding behind that rather
>appropriate pseudonym? (Or is your name Jim Page?)
--The only reason I hide behind a pseudonym is that the Internet can be a
creepy place. When you put your real name, there's always a chance that some
nut will track you down and come knocking on your door. Jim Page stands for
Jimmy Page, famous Led Zeppelin guitarist. To answer your other question, I
doubt that my views would be heard in the mainstream media if I were to
speak up or write an article. If they did give me my 15 minutes of fame, I'm
sure the words "hateful" and "biggot" would be plastered all over even
though my philosophy is much broader than the racial and cultural issues we
have covered here.
> Well, let's get our history straight. Israel was largely founded due
>to the influence of a group of evangelical christians in the Brittish
>government after WWII. Why, do you ask? I'm sure Holocause guilt
>played a role, but it's also that evangelical theology holds
>that for the second coming of christ to happen, there must
>be a jewish state in israel, Jerusalem must be a jewish city,
>and the temple must be rebuild (among other things).
--I'll have to look that up because I'm not as informed as you are. Your
point is very interesting though.
>>--So what? They represent 2% of the US population, but they control the
>>media, the government and a good part of the business world. So what? 90%
of
>>Jews are leftists/liberals/socialists, many of them are zionists/racists.
>
> Please provide evidence for this assertion.
--In this century, Jews have generally been on the left. I think that's
common knowledge. They have usually voted for the Democratic party in large
numbers (80% to 90% - look it up, it's been well documented). JJ Goldberg in
his authoritative book Jewish Power, Inside the American Jewish
Establishment, says that American Jews provide "between one-fourth and
one-half of all Democratic campaign funds". If you look at the Democratic
convention, Democratic fundraisers, Democratic party members, you'll see
that the number of Jews dwarfs those who are in the Republican party. You'll
also find most of the media's Jewish big shots are Democratic supporters.
Most of the large and influencial Jewish organizations have a very leftist
agenda (again, look it up - it's well documented).
> My question is this: you have a big problem with "leftist" pushing
>their adgenda. Do you also have a problem with the radical right
>pushing /their/ agenda? Or is it just that the "leftists" are
>pushing an agenda you disagree with.
--That's a very good question. To be honest, I do have a profound dislike of
the left and I would probably feel differently if the right was being pushed
in the media. The far right? I don't know. It depends on the issues at
stake. The far right in Nazi Germany is MUCH different than the far right in
the US for example.
>>--You're avoiding the real issue here. They have tried to change people's
>>attitudes with their influence. If you don't see a problem with that, it
>>says a lot about you.
>
> Isn't that what you're doing with this post? Doesn't everybody
>try to "change people's attitudes with their influence" every time
>they have a debate with someone? This is not an inherently evil activity.
--To some extent, I agree with you. The problem comes from the fact that
only one philosophy is being pushed in the mainstream media. The same thing
happened in communist countries when the state owned the media. You only
hear one side. And they basically say, "You have to be and think like this,
or else you're not a good person."
> I'd like you to cite examples of how members of Clinton's cabinet
>have done things whith are "good for the jews" but "not..what is right/
>good for the country." Specifics, please.
--How about the refusal to take diplomatic or military measures against
Israel even though they have been guilty of some of the worst acts of
terrorisms? Meanwhile, there have been continued assaults on Israeli enemies
like Irak and a plethora of Muslim countries... I could also mention the
billions sent to Israel every year, as if they needed financial help! Next
comes the permissive immigration policies and the gun control propanganda
(I'll bet you $100 that guns with be outlawed within 10 years in the US)...
> Well, it's just words. Hitler would have been forgotten if he
>just wrote Mein Kampf. Do you want to talk about actually doing things
>to people? Lets look at the evils Christianity has done in god's name.
>The Spanish Inquisition, for example, burned people alive at the stake.
--Let's be careful here. The Jews have also used their religious beliefs to
excuse their racist behavior. Many still do. Christianity's evils have been
discussed in the mainstream media and are taught in history classes in high
schools and colleges. If you want to find what the Jews have done, you're on
your own...
> I'm not pointing this out to kick Christianity, but merely
>to bring to your attention that pretty much every religion has
>some sordidness in it's underbelly. Most Jews are pretty ignorant
>of the Talmud--I'd say that it has as little to do with how most
>modern Jews feel today as the Spanish Inquisition does with
>how most Christians feel and think today.
--True.
>> 2) If Stalin put Jews in such
>>high places, they must not have been on top of his enemy list.
>
> Stalin put a lot of people in high places who he later killed (or you've
>not heard of his rather infamous purges?)
--Of course, but to say that he was looking to kill Jews is ludicrous
(unless you come up with proof).
>>> They have conspired in the past HOW?
>>
>>--How about that Bolshevik Revolution and the spread of the Communist
>>movement around the world? I posted the list yesterday.
>
> How is this a "conspiracy?". Furthermore, I think your insistence
>on calling communism jewish simply ignores the reality of Soviet
>Communism.
--Well, the rise of communism was mostly a Jewish affair. I don't think
that's being debated. As years went by, I agree that Jews lost their
stronghold on Soviet communism.
>>Stealing the land of
>>Israel isn't a conspiracy to you?
>No.
--How do you call the propaganda and that went on? It's the first time in
history that a country was overtaken without any war (well, there were
ensuing conflicts, but the territory was not won during a war).
>>The Communist infiltration of Washington
>>and Hollywood wasn't part of a conspiracy?
>>The socialist infiltration of
>>colleges/universities in the late 60's?
>
> What I find amusing is that you blame jews for all this. (As if
>there's really been a "communist infiltration of Washington").
--The infiltration of Washington has been well documented, as well as my 2
subsequent statements.
>>And how about Israel Cohen's plan to
>>raise the status of blacks and create racial tensions? It worked pretty
>>well, don't you think?
>
>>After all, the Jews founded the NAACP and pushed for
>>Affirmative Action (the most hateful, racist policy you could ever
imagine).
>
>Whatever.
--Whatever to what? The NAACP was indeed founded (and funded) by Jews.
Affirmitive Action is also an extremely racist measure. It uses race as a
BIAS. As a white male, I could be rejected from a University to allow the
admission of a weaker black or hispanic student just because of some
ridiculous quota imposed by the state. Don't you find that terribly unfair?
>>Jews have managed to undermine Christian morals and principles
>>with their constant propaganda (hidden under themes such as "progress" or
>>"feminism" or "racial equality" or "sexual revolution" or "tolerance"). If
>>you don't see anything wrong here, you're very deluded...
>
> I don't see anything wrong with feminism or racial equality or tolerance.
>I guess I'm just very deluded.
--You're only deluded if you don't understand the motives. What they call
"feminism" has really become reversed sexism. What they call "tolerance" is
really political correctness, or not being able to tell it like it is. We're
at a point where you can get dirty looks for calling someone black instead
of African-American. Meanwhile, blacks use words like "whities" and "white
thrash" to describe caucasians. That's what troubles me. Tolerance per se is
not a problem. The ideology developped under the theme of tolerance is what
I find upsetting.
>>Gee, I wonder why. And, as you know, Jews
>>will always hire a Jew instead of a white Christian, if they have a
choice.
>>I'm only assuming here since I don't have data, except for the
>>disproportionate number of Jews in Show-biz and other high places.
>
> You assume. Glad to know you're so grounded in facts.
--I'll ask you a question and I would like you to answer it honestly. Do you
think that every famous Jewish person in the entertainment industry (and the
list is amazingly long) got there fairly? Do you think that being Jewish can
actually help you get some breaks? Those things are impossible to verify,
but I'm curious to see what you think.
> Then again, it's quite probable that in Taiwan (where the
>Chang Kai-Shek government fled after the rise of Communist
>china) that Mao's crimes are remembered much more vividly
>than Hitler's.
--Very true.
(Very interesting stuff about Von Trotha snipped)
> Well, where do you live? If you live in a part of the US without
>a large immigrant population, that's understandable. But most
>of the large media centers in the US (NY, LA, San Francisco, Chicago)
>have large numbers of European immigrants. That might be part of the
>reason.
--I grew up in a small French-Canadian town (100,000 people) in Canada. I
had my first contact with the real world when I moved to San Diego. I was
bitterly disappointed to see that every single stereotype I had read about
was true. I moved back to Canada a couple of years later...
John Payson
PMG <av...@Chicagonet.net> wrote:
>The advantage of Kinging a pawn is that it can now move in both directions
>on the Chess board. And btw I've never seen any rules for Chess stating
>that I cannot promote a pawn to two Checkers stacked on top of each other.
After visiting chessvariants.com, I was wondering how playable a chess var-
iant would be if the pawns moved and captured like checkers (i.e. they move
forward one square diagonally until "kinged" in which case they can move in
reverse as well, they can only capture by jumping over opposing pieces, they
can capture multiple opposing pieces on a turn, and (maybe) whenever you can
capture a piece with a pawn (without going into check) you are required to
do so.
Think that would be interesting?
PMG
John Payson wrote:
John, I put in this response last night but my isp's news server didn't put it
through, here it is again:
It was meant as a quick off-hand joke, but I like the idea of somebody
developing it, I like the idea of your concept of pawns jumping pieces to
capture. Are you talking about further Checker style rules where captures would
be obligatory? That one might not work too well, I don't know, this is the first
I've thought about it.
If you wanted you could attempt to develope the game and probably be on the long
list of forgotten Chess variants. There seem to be allot of them. Atomic Chess
and Suicide Chess can be played by the program Olichess, they'll drive you nuts
trying to deal with the new concepts, worth trying though just to piss you off
sometime. As I recall Atomic Chess is fun, I might have the names wrong.
Pete
Adamski
<mic...@mobius1.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <7pktv4$q...@dfw-ixnews15.ix.netcom.com>, Ron Moskovitz
><rm...@netcom.com> writes
>> Really? I'd like to know why a few jews in high places is
>>evidence of a conspiracy, while a few non-jews of similar
>>race or religious beliefs isn't.
>>
>> Please don't tell me you've bought in to all this, too, Adamski.
>>
>> -Ron
>
>
Actually, I tried once to become Jewish, but they wouldn't have me.
A pity, because I fancied a job in the media.
Ron Moskovitz
Iago <jim...@netrevolution.com> wrote:
>
>--The only reason I hide behind a pseudonym is that the Internet can be a
>creepy place. When you put your real name, there's always a chance that some
>nut will track you down and come knocking on your door. Jim Page stands for
>Jimmy Page, famous Led Zeppelin guitarist. To answer your other question, I
>doubt that my views would be heard in the mainstream media if I were to
>speak up or write an article. If they did give me my 15 minutes of fame, I'm
>sure the words "hateful" and "biggot" would be plastered all over even
>though my philosophy is much broader than the racial and cultural issues we
>have covered here.
Fair enough--but then again I think that words like "bigot" are actually
fairly appropriate when used in describing you--whether or not your
philosphy is broader than you've revealed in the current discussion.
A man can be a bigot and still be intelligent. (For example, the
Ancient Greeks generally thought of anyone non-Greek as inferior,
which would make Plato and Aristotle "bigots" it the broadest sense.
That shouldn't cause anyone to be dismissive of their accomplishments.)
>>>--So what? They represent 2% of the US population, but they control the
>>>media, the government and a good part of the business world. So what? 90%
>of
>>>Jews are leftists/liberals/socialists, many of them are zionists/racists.
>>
>> Please provide evidence for this assertion.
>
>--In this century, Jews have generally been on the left. I think that's
>common knowledge. They have usually voted for the Democratic party in large
>numbers (80% to 90% - look it up, it's been well documented).
There's a big difference between the (generally acception) assertion
that "Jews have generally been on the left" and that "90% Of Jews
are leftists/liberals/socialists." I don't think whether or not they
vote democratic has too much to do with it, as you average middle-of-the
-road democrat is no more "leftist" or "socialist" than you average
middle-of-the-road republican.
>> I'd like you to cite examples of how members of Clinton's cabinet
>>have done things whith are "good for the jews" but "not..what is right/
>>good for the country." Specifics, please.
>
>--How about the refusal to take diplomatic or military measures against
>Israel even though they have been guilty of some of the worst acts of
>terrorisms? Meanwhile, there have been continued assaults on Israeli enemies
>like Irak and a plethora of Muslim countries... I could also mention the
>billions sent to Israel every year, as if they needed financial help! Next
>comes the permissive immigration policies and the gun control propanganda
>(I'll bet you $100 that guns with be outlawed within 10 years in the US)...
Well, you were railing against the Clinton cabinet, and I would
simply suggest that Clinton hasn't been doing anything that previous
Republican administrations weren't also doing. Heck, many Jewish
groups are unhappy with Clinton because they feel he's been far
less pro-Israel than any previous administration. (Although this
is certainly a trend that the Bush administration started, and
probably coincides with the end of the cold war). For example,
Egypt now gets more aid than Israel does--a state of affairs
which would have been unthinkable 15 years ago.
>>> 2) If Stalin put Jews in such
>>>high places, they must not have been on top of his enemy list.
>>
>> Stalin put a lot of people in high places who he later killed (or you've
>>not heard of his rather infamous purges?)
>
>--Of course, but to say that he was looking to kill Jews is ludicrous
>(unless you come up with proof).
Fair enough. I haven't had the time to do any research on this during
the last week.
>>>Stealing the land of
>>>Israel isn't a conspiracy to you?
>>No.
>
>--How do you call the propaganda and that went on? It's the first time in
>history that a country was overtaken without any war (well, there were
>ensuing conflicts, but the territory was not won during a war).
I don't know what the right word is to describe this. "Conspiracy"
seems to imply something which goes on under the cover of darkness.
>>
>> What I find amusing is that you blame jews for all this. (As if
>>there's really been a "communist infiltration of Washington").
>
>--The infiltration of Washington has been well documented, as well as my 2
>subsequent statements.
I guess I'm just not clear on what you're referring to. The "communist
infiltration of Washington" sounds like McCarthyist/HUAC nonesense.
>>
>>Whatever.
>
>--Whatever to what? The NAACP was indeed founded (and funded) by Jews.
>Affirmitive Action is also an extremely racist measure. It uses race as a
>BIAS. As a white male, I could be rejected from a University to allow the
>admission of a weaker black or hispanic student just because of some
>ridiculous quota imposed by the state. Don't you find that terribly unfair?
I think affirmative action, as applied, has had some excesses. At
the same time I recognize the idea that those who have benefitted
even indirectly, should pay to restore some sense of equality.
If I felt affirmative action worked, I might be able to support it.
>>>Jews have managed to undermine Christian morals and principles
>>>with their constant propaganda (hidden under themes such as "progress" or
>>>"feminism" or "racial equality" or "sexual revolution" or "tolerance"). If
>>>you don't see anything wrong here, you're very deluded...
>>
>> I don't see anything wrong with feminism or racial equality or tolerance.
>>I guess I'm just very deluded.
>
>--You're only deluded if you don't understand the motives. What they call
>"feminism" has really become reversed sexism.
In it's extreme, yes. But feminism is also responsible for things
like the idea that women should be able to pursue any job (rather than
be dumped into the secretarial pool), that they should be paid comprably
for comprable work, the idea that a woman shouldn't be a social
outcast if she decides not to marry, etc.
We take these things so much for granted
that it's easy to forget that there was a time when the concept of
a woman Doctor or Lawyer or Judge was more-or-less inconceivable--
surprisingly recently.
Has the movement had it's excesses? Sure. Show me a movement which
hasn't.
>What they call "tolerance" is
>really political correctness, or not being able to tell it like it is.
Again, in it's most extreme, yes. But for most people who consider
themselves tolerant, it simply means that you respect someone equally
regardless of their skin color.
Are you wrong in saying that political correctness has, in some instances,
amounted to censorship? Definitely not. But you are wrong in
assuming that's what most people want or think of when they talk of
"tolerance". You can't judge an idea by the faults of it's most
extreme exponents.
>We're
>at a point where you can get dirty looks for calling someone black instead
>of African-American.
This hasn't happened to me. I see no harm in calling people what
they want to be called, but at the same time I think it's appropriate
for people to be forgiving when they use the long label, so long
as their intent was clearly inoffensive. (If somebody wants to
be called an African American, I'll try to call him that. But if
I slip up, I'll call him an idiot if he acts like calling him
"black" was the same as calling him "nigger".)
>Meanwhile, blacks use words like "whities" and "white
>thrash" to describe caucasians. That's what troubles me. Tolerance per se is
>not a problem. The ideology developped under the theme of tolerance is what
>I find upsetting.
>>
>> You assume. Glad to know you're so grounded in facts.
>
>--I'll ask you a question and I would like you to answer it honestly. Do you
>think that every famous Jewish person in the entertainment industry (and the
>list is amazingly long) got there fairly? Do you think that being Jewish can
>actually help you get some breaks? Those things are impossible to verify,
>but I'm curious to see what you think.
For starters, I think your list was a little misleading because it
was so broad. You took an extremely broad definition of show business,
took people in various capacities from all over the world and all over
the century, and then acted surprised when the list was long.
To create a list that it's easier to generalize from, you should
define a single category beforehand (say, "contemporary actors")
and then make up your list. Your list was so broad that it
defied logical analysis, in my opinion.
Do I think all those people got their jobs fairly? I don't know. But
even if some of them didn't you're then making a claim that "a jew will
always hire another jew" (or something to that effect) from what may
simply be a small amount of nepotism.
But it's not at all uncommon to find an industry which is
dominated by a single ethnic group. (Think police in Boston).
Some of this is always nepotism, but a lot of it is self-selection.
I suspect that the large Jewish population in New York (the theater
capital of the country) is at least partially "responsible"
for this sort of self-selection, and most actors get their start
in theater.
jamesjo...@gmail.com
> 10. You need protective goggles to prevent serious eye injuries.
>
> 9. Had your name legally changed to "Smithov".
>
> 8. Your favourite move is "Queen to queen's level six".
>
> 7. You are secretly working on the "Scooby-Doo Gambit".
>
> 6. You join every internet email chess club and claim your rating to be
> 2700+, but never play a single game.
>
> 5. Your friends refer to you as "patzer-boy."
>
> 4. You think that Bobby Fischer's recent interviews are really cool.
>
> 3. You tell your friends chess was first invented buy the guy who made
> the rubic's cube.
>
> 2. You think that "pushing wood" is something you can get from a hooker
> for 200 bucks downtown.
>
> and the number one way to tell if you are a patzer is...
>
>
>
> 1. You get your pawn to the last rank and immediately jump up and yell
> "King me!"
>
>
> Humourously
> Vince
>
> --
> Vincent Waciuk
> vrwa...@sprint.ca