Any Clubmate Users?
rn
How 's the Program...DO you like it??? thinking about buying
thanks
Komputer Korner
rn wrote:
>
> How 's the Program...DO you like it??? thinking about buying
>
> thanks
Clubmate and Extreme Chess are the 2 low cost alternatives if you want a
dB.
Clubmate doesn't have a chesstree though and the list games screen
doesn't
give many details( you have to click on details game by game).
Apart from these drawbacks it will answer most of your needs for a dB.
Clubmate obtained my Komputer Korner Gold medal Award for economy dB.
My review of Extreme Chess is at the CCR. Extreme Chess can search on 11
fields plus the result of the game while Clubmate can search on 6 plus
the
result but Clubmate can search on 3 separate dB's at once each with a
different file format.Also it can search on position with 9 sorts of
variations on types of pieces and pawn structure which is something
Extreme
Chess or Fritz can't do. I plan on reviewing Clubmate eventually if I
can
ever find the time.
--
Komputer Korner
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kouldn't find the real motive in ChessBase and missed
the real learning feature of Nimzo.
Tony McCarthy
r...@voy.net (rn) wrote:
>How 's the Program...DO you like it??? thinking about buying
>thanks
I have the same question. I appreciate KK's response but i'm hoping
to hear from others, too.
Of course, every time i get about ready to get a database i keep going
back to the thought that i may as well focus on my general abilities
and forget about what's the right move on move 10 of the winawer.
Then again, maybe i'm just too cheap.
Komputer Korner
Despite all the hoopla about databases, for the average patzer that
just wants to get better, he/she would be better off training with
the Chess Mentor modules. Now if the patzer is also a tournament
player like myself, I find that you need to develop an openings
repertoire. Therefore you need a good opening book editor. Bookup
is the best, but turn off backsolving when you use it. Patzers that
like to dabble with chess trees in databases like Chess Assistant
and Tascbase will find that they will get sucked in to the JOB of
downloading PGN games from the internet and spend all their time
maintaining their database(s). Now if you just want to collect
some games and study them with a strong program, then Chess Genius 5
is good. If you just want to collect a few games and study them
yourself, then Clubmate 2.4 is fine. Everything depends on just exactly
what you want to do.
Tony McCarthy
Komputer Korner <kor...@netcom.ca> wrote:
The definition of "average patzer" is someone who is rated 150 points
below you. I believed I have developed an opening repertoire that
usually keeps me out of trouble in tournaments without the help of
databases. No doubt I sometimes lose the initiative as white or allow
white to gain an edge as black during the opening. But just as often
i am the one who comes out of the opening better.
Another comment:
When i tried the ChessMentor demo (no doubt a good program) i was
playing through a game when the light bulb went on. I had seen this
game before! It was a classic Capablanca game the moves of which have
been analysed countless times before. I could remember the key moves
from memory so that took away from the training features of the
program.
Chess Mentor breaks new ground in presenting material in an easy to
use software format. But they are doing what many chess authors do:
rehashing well analysed games from the past instead of doing original
work themselves.
This is not necessarily good or bad, but interesting nonetheless.
Komputer Korner
Tony McCarthy wrote:
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> Another comment:
>
> When i tried the ChessMentor demo (no doubt a good program) i was
> playing through a game when the light bulb went on. I had seen this
> game before! It was a classic Capablanca game the moves of which have
> been analysed countless times before. I could remember the key moves
> from memory so that took away from the training features of the
> program.
>
> Chess Mentor breaks new ground in presenting material in an easy to
> use software format. But they are doing what many chess authors do:
> rehashing well analysed games from the past instead of doing original
> work themselves.
>
> This is not necessarily good or bad, but interesting nonetheless.
Everything you say is true, but how many patzers can correctly answer
all the exercises in Chess Mentor? The value of the program is that it
is so much easier working from the screen when you don't have to set up
the pieces. As for opening repertoires, I have found that an
electronic opening book is invaluable when prepping for a tournament.
And I guess that I am 300 points stronger than the average patzer,
but when I compare myself to some of the IM's I know, I am barely
a woodpusher. In these days of big class prizes, it is important to
realize just how weak us patzers are when compared to the strong
players that finish out of the money in the top section of Swisses
as compared to us patzers that win money in the 2nd or 3rd sections.
Glenn_...@crc.doc.ca
In article <32C4BA...@netcom.ca> Komputer Korner <kor...@netcom.ca> writes:
>From: Komputer Korner <kor...@netcom.ca>
>Subject: Re: Any Clubmate Users?
>Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 01:15:12 -0500
Man talk about off topic. I have ClubMate, I love it. I am not a strong player
but I do love the game. I honestly beleive this is the best chess program on
the market for the price based on the bang for buck . Ian's policy of no cost
up-grades is just the suger on top. Buy it, by the time you become a class A
player Ian will have no doublt incorporated more features that you will feel
are necessary to make it to the next level.
Glenn
Glennm on FICS
Komputer Korner
I don't know whether you were referring to me, but I have had nothing
but
praise for Clubmate. It has won the Komputer Korner Gold Medal award for
value priced databases.