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Blackstar

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Aug 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/22/97
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CM5K has the option, but I've never tried it myself.

<--Will-->

On 21 Aug 1997 18:32:08 GMT, schr...@ix.netcom.com(David) wrote:

>Are there any programs besides Rebel 8 which have a
>blindfold option?


Komputer Korner

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Aug 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/27/97
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Well most programs allow this but this isn't the same as having a
chessboard on screen to look at. My apologies to Torstein for mixing him up
with you.

Tord Kallqvist Romstad <rom...@pan.uio.no> wrote in article
<gqkyb5n...@pan.uio.no>...
> "Komputer Korner" <kor...@netcom.ca> writes:
>
> >
> > I think it was Torstein Hall who said that Genius 5 has blindfold
chess.
>
> No, it was me.
>
> > Well if it has then I am blind.
>
> Just close the board window, and enter your moves with the keyboard.
>
> Tord
>

Robert Hyatt

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Aug 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/27/97
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Komputer Korner (kor...@netcom.ca) wrote:
: Well most programs allow this but this isn't the same as having a

: chessboard on screen to look at. My apologies to Torstein for mixing him up
: with you.

Now I'm lost. :) "having a chessboard on screen to look at" and
"blindfold chess" somehow don't seem to go together? :)

Bob


Torstein Hall

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Komputer Korner <kor...@netcom.ca> skrev i artikkelen
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> I think it was Torstein Hall who said that Genius 5 has blindfold chess.
> Well if it has then I am blind.
> The only 2 programs that I know that have blindfold chess are Chessmaster
> and Rebel. Anybody know of any others?

I hope I never said so because I dont know Genius at all! But just close
your eyes and have someone else do the moves on your PC :)


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Tim Mirabile

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Sep 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/21/97
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hy...@crafty.cis.uab.edu (Robert Hyatt) wrote:

>Komputer Korner (kor...@netcom.ca) wrote:
>: Typically blindfold chess with a computer allows a blank chessboard with no
>: pieces. Also in real blindfold chess it isn't against the rules to put the
>: GM in another room with just a chessboard and no pieces. That would still
>: qualify as blindfold chess.
>
>And the point would be? (with an empty board?) Because if I am playing
>blindfolded, I can *not* see the empty board of course??

Hehe. "Blindfold" chess does not specifically require the player to wear a real
blindfold. :) Usually the player who is playing "blindfold" just sits facing
away from the board.

Traditionally the "blindfolded" players don't get to see an empty chessboard or
a move list. Both of these make playing playing "blindfold" a lot easier.

I actually played against GM Michael Rohde in a blindfold simul. Unfortunately
only two other players showed up and they were fairly weak and lost quickly.
The three boards were lined up as in a regular simul, and Rohde sat about five
feet in front of us facing away. Each time one of us would make a move, the
announcer would call out the game number and the move in long algebraic, and
then he would play Rohde's reply on our boards.

[Event "Michael Rohde Blindfold Simul"]
[Site "Manhattan CC"]
[Date "1989.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Rohde,M"]
[Black "Mirabile,T"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B80"]
[WhiteUSCF "2675"]
[BlackUSCF "1960"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e6 7. Qd2 Be7 8. f3
Qc7 9. O-O-O b5 10. g4 Nc6 11. g5 Nd7 12. h4 Bb7 13. h5 Rc8 14. Bh3 Nde5 15. g6
hxg6 16. hxg6 Nxg6 17. Bxe6 Nxd4 18. Bxc8 Nxf3 19. Rxh8+ Nxh8 20. Qg2 Qxc8 21.
Qxf3 Qe6 22. Nd5 Bxd5 23. exd5 Qf6 24. Qh3 Ng6 25. Rf1 Qe5 26. Re1 f5 27. Qh7
Kf7 28. Bd2 Qf6 29. Re6 1-0

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Robert Hyatt

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Sep 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/22/97
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Komputer Korner (kor...@netcom.ca) wrote:
: Well I suppose you can play Crafty without winboard if you want real
: blindfold chess. For computer chess purposes, blindfold chess is defined as
: having a blank board in front of you.
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: Tim Mirabile <t...@mail.htp.com> wrote in article
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: > hy...@crafty.cis.uab.edu (Robert Hyatt) wrote:
: > Traditionally the "blindfolded" players don't get to see an empty


: chessboard or
: > a move list. Both of these make playing playing "blindfold" a lot
: easier.
: >
: > I actually played against GM Michael Rohde in a blindfold simul.
: Unfortunately
: > only two other players showed up and they were fairly weak and lost
: quickly.
: > The three boards were lined up as in a regular simul, and Rohde sat about
: five
: > feet in front of us facing away. Each time one of us would make a move,
: the
: > announcer would call out the game number and the move in long algebraic,
: and
: > then he would play Rohde's reply on our boards.

I entered Cray Blitz in a simul against IM Mike Valvo several years
ago. I believe he played 8 programs simultaneously. I don't recall
the result, I do remember that Ken Thompson was his "proxy" going
from board to board and making his move and relaying the computer's
moves. I was impressed watching him do this. I was even more
impressed watching some of "Kolti's" blindfold exploits. :)


Komputer Korner

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Jim Caccamise

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Sep 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/23/97
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I don't think any version of blindfold chess is "defined" as having a
board, blank or not, in front of you. Although I think this is a good
visualization training tool. For true blindfold chess, these programs
should have an option to remove the board display. Also there should be
an option to disable the game score move list - with only the current
move displayed. The standard options should be available so the player
can watch computer position analysis, etc. - as he chooses.

Jim Caccamise

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