Answer to KK (was Objective Information)
Komputer Korner
What you bring up is very important and You must realize that all software
is coming together and the chess field is no different. As I
said in my Komputer Korner pages there are really only 7 things that a
chess software program can do for you and database capability and game
playing are 2 of the more important ones. The reason that I rate Fritz 5
as the program of the year is because of the 7 things, it has 6 of the 7
and the 6 it has are well done in Fritz 5. Only play over the internet is
missing from Fritz 5.
There are 7 basic things that a chess program can do for you:
1) It can teach you how to play better chess
2) It can enable you to play chess over the internet with other opponents.
3) It can play a game against you
4) It can help you organize and collect games and search for data within
those games.
5) It can enable you to construct an openings repertoire.
6) It can enable you to collect games and view them in a chesstree
structure.
7) It can help you analyze a position(s).
The following programs are best in each category assuming you have WIN 95:
1) Chess Mentor 1.4
2) Slics 2.3j- or Blitzin if you are a member of ICC
3) Hiarcs 6 at long time controls, Fritz 5 at short time controls.
4) Chessbase 6.0
5) Bookup Win 1.5.2
6) Fritz 5
So you see that Fritz has 2 of the categories and even on the 1st
category, it has a coach feature, explain moves feature and natural
language advice. You have commented on it's abilities in category 4 and 7
and it is the best on category 6 and 2nd best on category 5. I can't make
up my mind on category 7. It is the hardest one to come up with a leader
for as strength is important as well as analyze features. I like TascBase
a lot but it's opening editor capabilities has some huge drawbacks.
1) Allows a maximum of 29 moves.
2) Cannot have the King program analyze at the same time as editing of the
book.
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Komputer Korner
The inkompetent komputer
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Mats Winther <mats.w...@swipnet.se> wrote in article
<341e100b...@nntpserver.swip.net>...
> Thank you for your comments!
> I still think that the opening book editing of TascBase/The King is
> the handiest. And if somebody thinks otherwise, opening lines can also
> in TascBase be developed with the aid of the chess engine analysis by
> moving pieces on the board. The position is then fetched to the
> graphic tree display (view mode) and by a command inserted into the
> opening tree. This is a beatiful software. I love working with it.
>
> Let me put it this way:
> Chessprograms are usually divided into two categories (1) chess
> programs (2) chess databases. But as the chess playing programs have
> acquired stronger database functions, and the databases have acquired
> analysis modules, these categories are not really valid anymore. This
> is obvious in the Fritz5 case. Everybody think it belongs to category
> (1). That´s why they think that certain functionality is completely
> new, since they are not aware that these functions already exist in
> category (2). For instance, the tree opening book already exists in
> TascBase/The King (category (2)). But the latter software also belongs
> to category (1). People tend to forget that. It is the same thing with
> Fritz5. If one compares the opening books of Fritz5 and The King, the
> latter is, all in all, much better.
>
> Mats Winther
>
Rolf Tueschen
"Komputer Korner" <kor...@netcom.ca> wrote:
>The inkompetent komputer
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What I wanted to say is the following.
ChrisW was right. KK didn't get his KIM IL SUUNG PRIZE FOR
SELFBULLMATURBATRIXING for this week yet.
This should be taken into serious consideration.
And then.
The 7 (seven) points of KK for a good chess program show another time
the rather limited view average soldiers have about logics.
KK simply can't differentiate between Prg/engine and Database with
analysis feature/engine.
And now the refutation.
The KK 7 points are WRONG.
Because KK simply forgot about the most important feature a prg should
have. KK forgot because he never got into deep chess before...
Here it is:
A chess program should have before all the feature to "teach chess",
yeah, Korner Kernel, you forgot that.
So from now on we and the whole world should speak of Rolf Tueschen's 8
(eight) needed features of a good chess program. Or 5 (five) without the
database blabla...
Or one. Simply a good chess program with subroutines to match the user's
taste.
The world for really smart people can be so simple. Therefore Albert E.
showed once his tongue... And we all knew what he wanted to tell us new
about his theories at this very moment. But guys like KK must repeat and
repeat their lists without being able to grasp the "bingo" point of the
field.
This is what our Pope of rgcc wanted to tell us.
Keep care of yourself. Mouth shut and trousers *on*.
Rolf, in short the Pope of all. Bingo.
Lwoodloc
Rolf, I'm know you've heard it before, but please do shut up.>.
Rolf Tueschen
lwoo...@aol.com (Lwoodloc) wrote:
>Rolf, I'm know you've heard it before, but please do shut up.>.
I'm know for not I'm respond to anonymous sissy cowards. >.-(
I'm play chess? --- 1.h4 1-0. Thank me.
BTW my Fritz5 evaluation showed a clear:
0.000 heap 99 fail through busted h2-h4 +- 13.69 ... Qh1-h7 + Mate in 1
New Elo score for Pope Rolfje: 2622!
PS
Best wishes to Ed Schroder, the defender of Czub's nazi-like stuff. If
someone could post his whereabouts these days. I heard he stopped all
Zwolle transactions?? How come?
No trousers anymore?
Lwoodloc
"Anonymous sissy cowards" is a very good way to describe people who
interrupt the exchange of ideas with pointless, ill- mannered diatribes
that can only cause valuable contributors to abandon the group in disgust,
leaving the rest of us the poorer. I'd LOVE to meet you and discuss things
in person, but in the meantime, why don't we prove our manhood by acting
decently when we know the victims of our abuse are out of reach?
Rolf Tueschen
lwoo...@aol.com (Lwoodloc) wrote:
>"Anonymous sissy cowards" is a very good way to describe people who
>interrupt the exchange of ideas with pointless, ill- mannered diatribes
>that can only cause valuable contributors to abandon the group in disgust,
>leaving the rest of us the poorer. I'd LOVE to meet you and discuss things
>in person,
Sorry, you just changed your argumentation line. First you wanted me to
eff off. Or similar. But if you now are prepared to talk/discuss, then
it's ok with me. And I would never say something like this. Please dont
twist the meaning of my words.
To say just a shooting would be better, knee shooting, threats like
juvenile amoking, this is all not the right stuff for usenet. I hope you
agree, Although you seem to be very strong too.
I understood that I made you angry, but the truth is, I dont know with
what. And you stayed rather mute about it.
I'm defending against a mean dutch businessman, Schroder, who insulted
me because I opposed nazi-like stuff posted by another German (Czub).
I cant help if this did upset you so much. You dont have to read about
it, no? Or are you also sympathatic with the like political crap?
>but in the meantime, why don't we prove our manhood by acting
>decently when we know the victims of our abuse are out of reach?
I know only/exactly of one dutch businessman, Schroder, the famous
programmer of Rebel, who abused this group for characterassassination.
Against me two times and against Hyatt one time.
So, it would be better to adress to Ed Schroder.
brucemo
Lwoodloc wrote:
> "Anonymous sissy cowards" is a very good way to describe people who
> interrupt the exchange of ideas with pointless, ill- mannered diatribes
> that can only cause valuable contributors to abandon the group in disgust,
> leaving the rest of us the poorer. I'd LOVE to meet you and discuss things
> in person, but in the meantime, why don't we prove our manhood by acting
> decently when we know the victims of our abuse are out of reach?
All anyone does by responding to him is delight him by providing him with
another person to dump one of this foul things on.
bruce