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Komputer Korner

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Sep 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/4/97
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Crafty which is free has the largest book available publicly but you can't
edit it. There are many programs which can create a book out of a database
but none for free. Other than making your own with an opening book editor
of which there are no free ones, you can always download the ChessBase demo
from http://www.pitt.edu/~schach/Archives/index2.html
With the demo you can create one huge game (and read it like a book) from
many games in a database.
The drawback is that the candidate move window only shows when you are
repacing a move or when you press on the forward button. Also your book
size is limited to the amount of free Ram. There is a site on the www where
you can practise your openings. Of the commercial opening book editors,
Bookup is the best.
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Mauricio Castro Espinosa <mcas...@colossus.rhon.itam.mx> wrote in article
<Pine.OSF.3.96.970904...@colossus.rhon.itam.mx>...
> Hi.
>
> Where can i find an openning data base?
>
>
> Thanks. Castro Espinosa m.
>
>

reg...@loire.rose.hp.com

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Sep 5, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/5/97
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In article <01bcb966$d16e49c0$6d5bb5cf@ALAN>,

"Komputer Korner" <kor...@netcom.ca> wrote:
>
> Crafty which is free has the largest book available publicly but you can't
> edit it. There are many programs which can create a book out of a database
> but none for free. Other than making your own with an opening book editor
> of which there are no free ones, you can always download the ChessBase demo
> from http://www.pitt.edu/~schach/Archives/index2.html
> With the demo you can create one huge game (and read it like a book) from
> many games in a database.
> The drawback is that the candidate move window only shows when you are
> repacing a move or when you press on the forward button. Also your book
> size is limited to the amount of free Ram. There is a site on the www where
> you can practise your openings. Of the commercial opening book editors,
> Bookup is the best.


just curious.
where is this WWW page where you can practice openings?

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> Komputer Korner
>
> The inkompetent komputer
>
> If you see a 1 in my email address, take it out before replying.
> Please do not email both me and the r.g.c.c. at the same time. I read all
> the postings on r.g.c.c.
>
> Mauricio Castro Espinosa <mcas...@colossus.rhon.itam.mx> wrote in article
> <Pine.OSF.3.96.970904...@colossus.rhon.itam.mx>...
> > Hi.
> >
> > Where can i find an openning data base?
> >
> >
> > Thanks. Castro Espinosa m.
> >
> >

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Lawrence S. Tamarkin

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Sep 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/15/97
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Komputer Korner wrote:

> Crafty which is free has the largest book available publicly but you
> can't
> edit it. There are many programs which can create a book out of a
> database
> but none for free. Other than making your own with an opening book
> editor
> of which there are no free ones, you can always download the ChessBase
> demo
> from http://www.pitt.edu/~schach/Archives/index2.html
> With the demo you can create one huge game (and read it like a book)
> from
> many games in a database.
> The drawback is that the candidate move window only shows when you are
>
> repacing a move or when you press on the forward button. Also your
> book
> size is limited to the amount of free Ram. There is a site on the www
> where
> you can practise your openings. Of the commercial opening book
> editors,
> Bookup is the best.

> --
>

> Now your starting to confuse me Korner!? - I thought that Fritz5 was
> the best opening book editor, because you can play against it?! -
> Am I missing something?

Lawrence Tamarkin mrslug - the inkopitent chess software addict!

>


Komputer Korner

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Sep 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/16/97
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How are you able to edit the book and have The King analyze for you at the
same time? This is a VERY important requirement of opening book editors. .
It is interesting that Rebel and M-Chess can't do this either. Also there
is a 29 move limit in the Tascbase
O.B.E.
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Mats Winther <mats.w...@swipnet.se> wrote in article
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> There must be some kind of misunderstanding here - actually TascBase
> 2.0 has the best opening book editor. You play against it with the
> chessprogram The King. Or are you people not aware of this superb
> software?
>
> Mats Winther

Lawrence S. Tamarkin

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Sep 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/17/97
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Komputer Korner wrote:

> Crafty which is free has the largest book available publicly but you
> can't edit it. There are many programs which can create a book out of
a

> database but none for free. -- snipped...


> you can practise your openings. Of the commercial opening book
> editors,
> Bookup is the best.
> --
>

> Now your starting to confuse me Korner!? - I thought that Fritz5 was


> the best opening book editor, because you can play against it?! -
> Am I missing something?


Lawrence S.Tamarkin

Harald

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Sep 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/18/97
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quoting a mail from mats.w...@swipnet.se


> There must be some kind of misunderstanding here - actually TascBase
> 2.0 has the best opening book editor. You play against it with the
> chessprogram The King. Or are you people not aware of this superb
> software?
> Mats Winther

Yes, we are, but an important disadvantage makes many potential customers
deny buying it: copy protection. This kind of c.p. is not acceptable.


> >> Now your starting to confuse me Korner!? - I thought that Fritz5 was
> >> the best opening book editor, because you can play against it?! -
> >> Am I missing something?


Harald Faber

Lawrence S. Tamarkin

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Sep 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/18/97
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quoting a mail from mats.w...@swipnet.se


> There must be some kind of misunderstanding here - actually TascBase
> 2.0 has the best opening book editor. You play against it with the

> chess program The King. Or are you people not aware of this superb
> software?
> Mats Winther

Harald Faber wrote:
Yes, we are, but an important disadvantage makes many potential
customers
deny buying it: copy protection. This kind of c.p. is not acceptable.

I agree completely! - In fact even though I got the TASC Base 2.0
bundle at
a very special price when I worked at International Chess Enterprises, I

haven't put it on my computer - Reasons:

1. The copy protection method they use makes it extremely inconvenient.
Should even the slightest little problem occur in my configuration, Or
should I change or add any hardware (as I have rather frequently done
over
the last 2 years!), then an install is lost.

2. All the stuff on my computer has led to limited hard disk space -
There
are a number of programs that I have often taken off and put back on the

machine depending on what I 'felt' I wanted that month. And this is
true
despite the fact that I have a ZIP drive & a 2nd hard disk. (540 MB).
Programs like CM5000 cause no problem in this regard, as they have no
copy
protection and can be added and removed ad-infinite...

So even though I know my TASC Base program is a super program, I have
decided to wait until some day in the future after I have bought a new
computer with the usual giant increase in disk-space size before I use
it.

Lawrence S. Tamarkin
the incompetent software addict!


Eric Schiller

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Sep 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/22/97
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I feel the same way. TB has some nice features, but turned out to be
unusable because of copy protection. I work my machines hard and they go
down from time to time. I need to be able to easily set up the program on
my laptop for travel. I use CB because I have to (though I am building
tools to replace most functions) but the dongle is a real pain.

TB is also terribly modal. You can't play and edit easily. You need to keep
clicking obscure icons to switch modes for almost every function.

If it were without copy protection and was updated to a proper GUI I'd
recommend it, but the few nice features do not outweight the clunky
interface and copy protection.

Eric Schiller
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