Dell Axim 400 Mhz Price Drop - $266 limited time
Michael Byrne
ideal for :
Pocket Chess Genius 1.5 (over 100k nps in many positions)
Pocket Grandmaster 2.1 ( 3 engines , including Ruffian)
Pocket Fritz 2 (Pocket Pritz 1 wll not work on this machine) - Shredder 7.0
(roughly) in a handheld.
PGM and PGM combined will cost you about the same as PF2 ~$50. Four engines for
the price of 1.
Disclaimer:
I have absolutely no financial interest in Dell , Chess Genius, Pocket
Grandmaster or Pocket Fritz - just an interest in computer chess.
See for yourself how well these handhelds play chess. Stronger than any
dedicated unit available - perfect for train, plane and just sitting in the
park.
Sam Stark
with new chess programs and if you wish to waste good chess time it can also
save phone numbers, do arithmetic, check emails, etc.. I use PF2 & PGM2.1
extensively on an IPAQ 1910. How would you rate each of the
program/engine's playing strength relative to each other and your
approximate numerical rating? With respect to functionality I would like to
point out that PF2 doesn't keep to the fixed time limit per move, not even
on an average basis which annoys me greatly. The PGM2.1 does keep to the
time limit.
"Michael Byrne" <mfbyr...@msn.com> wrote in message
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Michael Byrne
> I agree the PocketPC is the best dedicated chess computer. You can update
> with new chess programs and if you wish to waste good chess time it can also
> save phone numbers, do arithmetic, check emails, etc.. I use PF2 & PGM2.1
> extensively on an IPAQ 1910. How would you rate each of the
> program/engine's playing strength relative to each other and your
> approximate numerical rating?
On my old Ipaq, IMO there was no question that PF2 was stronger then
PGM and PCG 1.4. (1.5 was not available yet.)/
Pocket Chess Genius 1.5 has a huge speed gain over 1.4 on an Ipaq.
Richard Lang optimixed it for X-scale and under Pocket PC 2003 (WM
2003) and the A05 ROM ( configuration that currently ships from Dell)
it see 3x nps of either program and solves many positions faster. PGM
and PF2 might be more "state of the" in Chess programming - but speed
is a great equalizer. Richard Lang programs have also been know to
to very well in "relatively" weak processor unit or fast time
controls. So until I am convinced otherwise - I belive on the Dell
Axim these programs are very close to each other and it too close for
me to call at this time.
I played 2 games pitting PF2 against CG on the same unit - pondering
off, Game 30 and they each won one game. I know two games is not much
- but clearly they are both capable of beating each other.
PGM has better PGN handling (variations), more time options and 3
engines. CG is made with PDA purist at heart with a clean, simple,
GUI and not overloaded with options. It now does show nodes searched
and nps and solves many of the null move mate problems that cause
problems for other programs much faster. CG 1.5 also has a new piece
set that is excellent and more preset board colors than CG 1.4. The
Hash table now goes up to 16 MB, the search depth was increased to 40
ply (CG 1.4 was 25 ply and in certain positions like Fine #70, 25 ply
was reached in one second on the Dell Axim.) Now for Fine #70, it
will reach 38 ply in about two minutes before the queening of the pawn
slows the search depth down.
Sam Stark
functionality lagged PGM.
"Michael Byrne" <mfbyr...@msn.com> wrote in message
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Jim Grieve
which I am considering buying with Pocket Fritz 2. However, I am wondering if
any of the other software I use, like ChessMentor or Chessbase Training would
be useable with it? Can you load in these endgame, opening tutorials, game
collections and have them also work portably with these PC handhelds? Or does
everything have to be purchased in PocketPC format?
Jim
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:48:56 -0400, Michael Byrne wrote
(in message <5a20ded2.0310...@posting.google.com>):
> http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/category.aspx/pda?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=
> dhs
>
> ideal for :
>
> Pocket Chess Genius 1.5 (over 100k nps in many positions)
> Pocket Grandmaster 2.1 ( 3 engines , including Ruffian)
> Pocket Fritz 2 (Pocket Pritz 1 wll not work on this machine) - Shredder 7.0
> (roughly) in a handheld.
>
> PGM and PGM combined will cost you about the same as PF2 ~$50. Four engines
> for
> the price of 1.
>
> Disclaimer:
> I have absolutely no financial interest in Dell , Chess Genius, Pocket
> Grandmaster or Pocket Fritz - just an interest in computer chess.
>
> See for yourself how well these handhelds play chess. Stronger than any
> dedicated unit available - perfect for train, plane and just sitting in the
> park.
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> I have a compact flash II card that (think) I could use with the Axim x5,
> which I am considering buying with Pocket Fritz 2. However, I am wondering
if
> any of the other software I use, like ChessMentor or Chessbase Training
would
> be useable with it? Can you load in these endgame, opening tutorials, game
> collections and have them also work portably with these PC handhelds? Or
does
> everything have to be purchased in PocketPC format?
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:48:56 -0400, Michael Byrne wrote
> (in message <5a20ded2.0310...@posting.google.com>):
>
> >
http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/category.aspx/pda?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
Not sure about the files you mentioned, but PGN files are always useable on
the PocketPC versions such as PGM and Chess Genius.
I checked this price out on the Australian Dell website, here is what I
found:
Price for the 400Mhz (non wireless) $600 (AU$), which roughly equates to
$445 US$
You can buy the product from the US website, without the discount, for $329
US$....
$US116 difference?
Hey Dell, what's up with this?? Doesn't pay to live on the other end of
the world, that's for sure! Even with delivery it would be better to buy
from the US website. Wake up Dell....
Michael Byrne
> which I am considering buying with Pocket Fritz 2. However, I am wondering if
> any of the other software I use, like ChessMentor or Chessbase Training would
> be useable with it? Can you load in these endgame, opening tutorials, game
> collections and have them also work portably with these PC handhelds? Or does
> everything have to be purchased in PocketPC format?
>
> Jim
>
Pocket PC require PocketPC software. There is an exception - somebody
has written POCKETDOS that will run old DOS programs on PocketPCs. I
got Fritz 2 to run on my Dell Axim just for kicks - but POCKETDOS will
set you back about $40.
Michael Byrne
> "Jim Grieve" <jimg...@nospammindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:01HW.BC14FB8B0...@news.east.earthlink.net...
> > I have a compact flash II card that (think) I could use with the Axim x5,
> > which I am considering buying with Pocket Fritz 2. However, I am wondering
> if
> > any of the other software I use, like ChessMentor or Chessbase Training
> would
> > be useable with it? Can you load in these endgame, opening tutorials, game
> > collections and have them also work portably with these PC handhelds? Or
> does
> > everything have to be purchased in PocketPC format?
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:48:56 -0400, Michael Byrne wrote
> > (in message <5a20ded2.0310...@posting.google.com>):
> >
> > >
> http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/category.aspx/pda?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
>
> Not sure about the files you mentioned, but PGN files are always useable on
> the PocketPC versions such as PGM and Chess Genius.
>
> I checked this price out on the Australian Dell website, here is what I
> found:
>
> Price for the 400Mhz (non wireless) $600 (AU$), which roughly equates to
> $445 US$
>
> You can buy the product from the US website, without the discount, for $329
> US$....
>
> $US116 difference?
You get a refurb model for about $230 - they have about 20 at that
price. Same warranty as new. I bought refurb many times from Dell
(PC's and Axims) - great price - same warranty. You can't go wrong.
Michael Byrne
I forgot the link:
http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/axim_x5?c=us&cs=22&l=en&s=dfh
Simon
> I forgot the link:
>
>
http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/axim_x5?c=us&cs=22&l=en&s=dfh
Thanks for the link Michael.
Jim Grieve
Openings or D. Endgames (which use Chessbase Lite)...I could still do this
with Pocket Fritz? Thanks for the refurb link....I checked it tonight but
they were out of everything.
Jim
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 15:25:26 -0400, Michael Byrne wrote
(in message <5a20ded2.03122...@posting.google.com>):
>
> Pocket PC require PocketPC software. There is an exception - somebody
> has written POCKETDOS that will run old DOS programs on PocketPCs. I
> got Fritz 2 to run on my Dell Axim just for kicks - but POCKETDOS will
> set you back about $40.
>
>
Michael Byrne
> So Michael - if I want to use the Pocket PC for study - as with ABC of
> Openings or D. Endgames (which use Chessbase Lite)...I could still do this
> with Pocket Fritz? Thanks for the refurb link....I checked it tonight but
> they were out of everything.
>
> Jim
No - I might not have written that post with 100% clarity. Pocket
Fritz is a pocket pc program and will only run on pocket pc's. Pocket
Fritz has the chess engine Shredder. It will only read pgn files -
not any chessbase files.
Fritz 2, the old DOS program runs on pocket pc using pocket dos. I
ran it just for kicks - I did not test it to see if would read
chessfiles on a pocket pc. My impression is that although I got it to
run, A DOS program like Fritz 2 on a pocket pc is not very friendly on
a pocket pc and I would not recommend it to anyone.
I knew once I posted that link, the 20 they had will be gone fast.
Just check that link Monday through Friday - around 10AM EST is
usually a good time.