GetClub Chess may be World best [Top 10]
Sanny
I suppose, now GetClub will play as good as other Commercial programs.
[Top 10]
But instead of paying $50 - $100 on a commercial program you can play
same levels of games at GetClub Chess.
GetClub Chess you can play 500 games for free. Your games are Recorded
and you can analyze each game you play. You can view animations of the
games you play and also the time taken by you for each move.
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
Incase your connection breaks you can restart the game from where you
left.
With this week Improvements I am happy to say that GetClub plays
equally good like other Commercial Programs.
If you are a fan of Fritz/ Rybka/ Chessmaster you should play GetClub
Chess (for free) and see how good it plays against you.
New Ratings for each Levels.
Baby Level: (2 sec / move): 1800+
Beginner Level: (8 sec / move): 2000+
Easy Level: (30 sec / move): 2200+
Normal Level: (2 min / move): 2400+
So if you are arround 1800 - 2200+ player GetClub Chess is the best
place to play.
If you have other commercial program play GetClub against them and see
how good GetClub Chess has become.
Once you play a game. The Chess Engine analyzes each move and suggest
you where you went wrong. Incase you are not satisfied with the
analysis you can ask the GetClub Engine to analyze your game with even
Higher Level till you are fully satisfied.
You can leave the computer analyse your game for hours. And it will
keep analysing with higher & higher levels till you switch off the
computer.
So GetClub Chess is now as good as any other Commercial Chess Program.
Thanks Note.
----------------------
I Thank the people involved in development of GetClub Chess. Along
with.
1. Help Bot: His Valuable advices will always be remembered.
2. Taylor Kingston: His criticism helped GetClub advance a lot.
3. Phil Innes: His long letters were worth reading, But very difficult
to apply.[I still need to read them]
4. Martin Brown: Thanks for analysing each game with full details.
5. Simon: Thanks for your Tech helps.
6. Sat-w7: Playing Games with him made me understand problems in
GetClub Chess.
I thank all whose valuable support made GetClub as good as other
Commercial Programs.
So GetClub Chess is now a very Advanced Chess Engines.
I am Waiting to see your games. Let me know if you can suggest any
further improvement in GetClub Chess. Only strong Chess players can
find mistake in GetClub games. As now it plays very strong moves.
Your suggestions are Welcome !!!
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
Sanny
While you can try a game between your Engine Vs GetClub.
Lets see how GetClub compares with other Engines.
Stephan Bird
> This week a major improvements were done to GetClub Chess.
>
> I suppose, now GetClub will play as good as other Commercial programs.
> [Top 10]
>
But that means, if you can draw with your monster
<19b0ca01-b2d3-4ba6...@z3g2000prd.googlegroups.com>, that
you too are also in the world elite. Yet I don't see you in the FIDE lists?
S
raylopez99
Why sign up with Play Chess, and risk that a Trojan or worse virus
(like a keyboard logger) gets installed on your PC, recording all your
personal information and thereby cleaning out your bank account, just
to "save" a small fee? When FICS is free?
Sanny you're insanny!
RL
Sanny
> (like a keyboard logger) gets installed on your PC, recording all your
> personal information and thereby cleaning out your bank account, just
> to "save" a small fee?
There is nothing downloaded at GetClub Chess. You can play without any
downloads. Username is needed So that the recorded games played by you
can be saved with your name.
It is 100% safe to play Chess at GetClub. Since nothing needs to be
downloaded. And it uses Java which is as simple as a html page.
There is no way a simple webpage can harm your computer. Further you
need an account for below reasions.
1. Your games are recorded So if you have an account with your
username you can see which games were played by you.
2. More than 1000 players play at GetClub. Each has different ratings
and you can view games played by each players Online.
3. You can analyze your games Online and ask others to view & comment
on your games. To have a seperate category for each user your games
are recorded under your username.
More than 1000 players have played at GetClub without any problem. Its
safe & simple. You can create your account within 2 minutes. Your
email needs to be verified before you can play at GetClub.
So to Conclude at GetClub you are not downloading anything and you
play Online and all your games and records are stored on GetClub
Server which you can access later.
Is safe and Simple to play at GetClub Chess. You can play both with
Humans and Computer Opponents at GetClub. Its free to Join. Play as
many as 500 Chess games for free.
None
1. Help Bot: His Valuable advices will always be remembered.
2. Taylor Kingston: His criticism helped GetClub advance a lot.
Your suggestions are Welcome !!! -- Bye Sanny
Yes you and your paid shills will make a killing and all you have to
do is spam the chess newsgroups.
Buy
Joe
Taylor Kingston
Ahem, Stan — I am no shill for Sanny, paid or otherwise. GetClub is
the poorest excuse for a chess program I've ever seen, and Sanny is a
shameless liar. I advise all readers here to avoid his site.
Simon Krahnke
> On Dec 20, 12:15�pm, None <joeschm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Dec 20, 5:15�am, Sanny <softtank...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> �1. Help Bot: His Valuable advices will always be remembered.
>>
>> �2. Taylor Kingston: His criticism helped GetClub advance a lot.
>>
>> �Your suggestions are Welcome !!! -- Bye �Sanny
>>
>> Yes you and your paid shills will make a killing and all you have to
>> do is spam the chess newsgroups.
>
> Ahem, Stan � I am no shill for Sanny, paid or otherwise. GetClub is
> the poorest excuse for a chess program I've ever seen, and Sanny is a
> shameless liar. I advise all readers here to avoid his site.
The more people avoid his site, the higher Getclub's win/loss ratio.
mfg, simon ....
None
> * Taylor Kingston <taylor.kings...@comcast.net> (21:59) schrieb:
>
> > On Dec 20, 12:15 pm, None <joeschm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Dec 20, 5:15 am, Sanny <softtank...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> >> Yes you and your paid shills will make a killing and all you have to
> >> do is spam the chess newsgroups.
>
> > the poorest excuse for a chess program I've ever seen, and Sanny is a
> > shameless liar. I advise all readers here to avoid his site.
>
> The more people avoid his site, the higher Getclub's win/loss ratio.
>
> mfg, simon ....
LOL
None
wrote:
Ahem? You need to quit smoking TK. Cause I thought you kept discussing
games et al cuz you was on da dole man. Why else?
Taylor Kingston
Stan, no point of yours is too trivial to ignore.
samsloan
Why do you call him Stan?
Is he Stan Vaughan, Stan Booz or somebody else named Stan?
Sam Sloan
Simon Krahnke
> But instead of paying $50 - $100 on a commercial program you can play
> same levels of games at GetClub Chess.
You mean, like I can play Rybka 2.2 on my computer?
Heck, another quick game:
[Date "2009.12.20"]
[White "Getclub baby"]
[Black "Rybka 2.2 32 bit"]
[TimeControl "1+0.1"]
1. Nc3 Nc6 {(Nc6) -0.32/1}
2. d4 d5 {(d5) -0.13/4 0}
3. Nf3 Nf6 {(Nf6) -0.13/2 0}
4. Bf4 Nh5 {(Nh5) -0.06/4 0}
5. Bg5 h6 {(h6 Bd2) +0.06/5 0}
6. Be3 Bf5 {(Bf5) +0.17/4 0}
7. Ne5 Nb4 {(Nb4) +0.05/4 0}
8. g4 Bxc2 {(Bxc2) +0.18/3 0}
9. Qd2 Bh7 {(Bh7) -0.10/3 0}
10. O-O-O Nf6 {(Nf6) +0.08/4 0}
11. Bg2 Qd6 {(Qd6) +0.08/1 0}
12. Rde1 Qa6 {(Qa6) +0.18/3 0}
13. Kd1 e6 {(e6) +0.62/3 0}
14. a3 Nc2 {(Nc2) +0.66/2 0}
15. Ref1 Bd6 {(Bd6) +0.59/1 0}
16. Bf4 Qb6 {(Qb6) +1.02/1 0}
17. g5 hxg5 {(hxg5) +1.36/1 0}
18. Bxg5 Nxd4 {(Nxd4) +2.04/2 0}
19. Bxf6 gxf6 {(gxf6) +2.36/2 0}
20. Bxd5 exd5 {(exd5) +4.42/3 0}
21. Nd3 Qb3+ {(Qb3+) +4.71/2 0}
22. Kc1 O-O-O {(0-0-0) +4.29/2 0}
23. Re1 Qc4 {(Qc4) +5.19/3 0}
24. Kb1 Nxe2 {(Nxe2) +5.20/2 0}
25. Nxe2 Bxd3+ {(Bxd3+) +5.46/2 0}
26. Ka1 Rhe8 {(Rhe8) +5.74/3 0}
27. Ng1 Bf4 {(Bf4) +8.74/4 0}
28. Qa5 b6 {(b6) +9.75/3 0}
29. Qb4 c5 {(c5) +11.05/3 0}
30. Rxe8 Qc1+ {(Qc1+ Ka2 Bb1+) +M4/1 0}
31. Ka2 Bb1+ {(Bb1+ Ka1 Bc2+) +M3/3 0}
32. Ka1 Bc2+ {(Bc2+ Ka2 Qb1+) +M2/3 0}
0-1
Notice how Rybka even gets to depth 5 at one point!
http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM55003&game=Chess
Is it right, that the applet on this page just shows "Applet loaded" and
nothing happens?
And the list of moves is totally fucked up.
> With this week Improvements I am happy to say that GetClub plays
> equally good like other Commercial Programs.
Yeah, it easily loses against Rybka at 1s per game plus 0.1s per move,
> Once you play a game. The Chess Engine analyzes each move and suggest
> you where you went wrong. Incase you are not satisfied with the
> analysis you can ask the GetClub Engine to analyze your game with even
> Higher Level till you are fully satisfied.
Doesn't seem to work.
> So GetClub Chess is now as good as any other Commercial Chess Program.
Hasn't it been at that level for a year, now?
> 5. Simon: Thanks for your Tech helps.
You are welcome.
mfg, simon .... l
The Master
> > > > > Yes you and your paid shills will make a killing and all you have to
> > > > > do is spam the chess newsgroups.
>
> > > > Ahem, Stan — I am no shill for Sanny, paid or otherwise. GetClub is
> > > > the poorest excuse for a chess program I've ever seen, and Sanny is a
> > > > shameless liar. I advise all readers here to avoid his site.
>
> > > Ahem? You need to quit smoking TK. Cause I thought you kept discussing
> > > games et al cuz you was on da dole man. Why else?
>
> > Stan, no point of yours is too trivial to ignore.
>
> Why do you call him Stan?
>
> Is he Stan Vaughan, Stan Booz or somebody else named Stan?
NOTHING can escape the razor-sharp wit of Mr. Sloan.
Witness the iron-clad logic above, whereby he "deduces"
the cause of Mr. Kingston referring to another poster as
Stan. Clearly, Mr. Kingston does so because he believes
he is addressing someone whose name is Stan. One
can only gasp in awe, and wonder how Mr. Sloan's mind
might compare to that of Sherlock Holmes-- a fellow who
once defeated Dr. Moriarty in a blood-curdling game of
chess.
None
Stan, no point of yours is too trivial to ignore. --TK
You make a point.
Taylor Kingston
As far as I understand, "None," aka "Joe Schmoe," is Stan Booz. I
thought this was common knowledge on this group. If I am wrong about
this, let Mr. Schmoe identify himself.
I don't much give a hoot who "None" is. I'm off to San Diego
tomorrow, happily leaving you guys to stew in your own rgc juice while
I enjoy some pleasant weather in Charger Land.
Sanny
> > same levels of games at GetClub Chess.
>
> You mean, like I can play Rybka 2.2 on my computer?
Thats great. Rybka gave a good beating to baby level.
> Heck, another quick game:
>
> [Date "2009.12.20"]
> [White "Getclub baby"]
> [Black "Rybka 2.2 32 bit"]
> [TimeControl "1+0.1"]
What do +0.1 means does it mean Every move get 1.1 sec? Or every move
the time was increased by 0.1 sec in case opponent takes more than 0.1
sec?
Did rybka saw 10 ply at that move?
> http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM55003&game=Chess
>
> Is it right, that the applet on this page just shows "Applet loaded" and
> nothing happens?
>
> And the list of moves is totally fucked up.
Its because the moves were not recorded properly. I have corrected the
moves manually. Now you can analyze the above game with Higher Levels.
I think your web connection was slow or something wrong that the
moves were written twice. I found many moves were sent twice which
made the move list wrong. I have edited the move list So now you can
see the correct version of the game played and analyze your game with
higher levels.
Visit: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM55003&game=Chess to
have your game analyzed by higher levels. You can see score given to
each move by higher levels. And see whats the difference in scores
given by Rybka and GetClub.
> > With this week Improvements I am happy to say that GetClub plays
> > equally good like other Commercial Programs.
>
> Yeah, it easily loses against Rybka at 1s per game plus 0.1s per move,
I find GetClub was taking 2 sec / move. Since Baby Level is the
weakest Level at GetClub It do not gave good challenge to Rybka. How
about a game between
Rybka [5 sec/ move] vs Easy Level [32 sec/ move]
-------------------------------------------------------------------
That will be a nice game to watch as both engines will get enough time
to analyze each moves. I suggest you use fast computer/ net connection
to avoid error in recording game.
> > Once you play a game. The Chess Engine analyzes each move and suggest
> > you where you went wrong. Incase you are not satisfied with the
> > analysis you can ask the GetClub Engine to analyze your game with even
> > Higher Level till you are fully satisfied.
>
> Doesn't seem to work.
I have corrected the moves list which was recorded, now you can
analyze and view your game at:
http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM55003&game=Chess
> > 5. Simon: Thanks for your Tech helps.
>
> You are welcome.
Have a nice time playing Chess at GetClub.
Sanny
>
> > Is he Stan Vaughan, Stan Booz or somebody else named Stan?
>
> NOTHING can escape the razor-sharp wit of Mr. Sloan.
> Witness the iron-clad logic above, whereby he "deduces"
> the cause of Mr. Kingston referring to another poster as
> Stan. Clearly, Mr. Kingston does so because he believes
> he is addressing someone whose name is Stan. One
> can only gasp in awe, and wonder how Mr. Sloan's mind
> might compare to that of Sherlock Holmes-- a fellow who
> once defeated Dr. Moriarty in a blood-curdling game of
> chess.
So is the Help Bots new Monkier? [Chicago] Have you left Indianopolis
Sanny
I agree, this newsgroup has quite strong players. But now GetClub is
equipped with all weapons to handle the strong players.
I suppose now the Master Level can beat all players on this newsgroup.
No player in this Newsgroup can beat the Master Level at GetClub.
Master Level: [10 min / move] is a Unbeatable beast. Even the strong
players are afraid of its moves.
Markus Islinger
> Master Level: [10 min / move] is a Unbeatable beast. Even the strong
> players are afraid of its moves.
Did you change the thinking times? Master level used to be more like
10 days / move...
Simon Krahnke
>> [Date "2009.12.20"]
>> [White "Getclub baby"]
>> [Black "Rybka 2.2 32 bit"]
>> [TimeControl "1+0.1"]
>
> What do +0.1 means does it mean Every move get 1.1 sec? Or every move
> the time was increased by 0.1 sec in case opponent takes more than 0.1
> sec?
You get additional 0.1s per move in any case.
>> 20. Bxd5 exd5 {(exd5) +4.42/3 0}
On its analysis Getclub considered this to be its best move before
switching to its final move. Rybka considers this the 4th best move
there, losing nearly 2 pawns worth.
>> Notice how Rybka even gets to depth 5 at one point!
>
> Did rybka saw 10 ply at that move?
No, ply 5.
>> And the list of moves is totally fucked up.
>
> Its because the moves were not recorded properly. I have corrected the
> moves manually. Now you can analyze the above game with Higher Levels.
It sometimes has trouble accepting my move. I drag the piece over and
the game stops for several seconds without updating the screen. At the
moment this happens on every move.
Oh, move 16 was accepted immediately. Error back at move 18. 19 normal.
20 error. 21 normal. 22. error. 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29 too. 30, 31,
32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 normal. 38 error. 39 normal. 40 error. 41 normal.
42 error. 43, 44 normal. 45 error. 46, 47, 48 normal. 49, 50, 51, 52,
53, 54, 55 error. 56 normal. 57 error. 58, 59 normal. 60, 61, 62, 63,
64, 65 error. 66 normal. 67 error. 68 normal. 69, 70, 71 error. 72, 73,
74, 75 normal. 76 error. 77, 78 normal. 79 normal. 80 error. 81, 82, 83
normal. 84, 85 error. 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92 normal.
Game over. I was tired and stepped in at the end. Without tablebases and
searching deep, Rybka couldn't find a mate. Probably had to go through
position repetitions to finally find one, but that was too tiresome for me.
[Date "2009.12.21"]
[White "Getclub easy"]
[Black "Rybka 2.2"]
[Result "0-1"]
[TimeControl "1+0"]
1. d4 Nc6
2. Nf3 Nf6
3. d5 Nb4 {(Nb4) -0.06/1 0}
4. Nc3 e6 {(e6) -0.06/1}
5. dxe6 dxe6 {(dxe6) -0.09/1 0}
6. Qxd8+ Kxd8 {(Kxd8) -0.02/1 0}
7. Kd2 Bd6 {(Bd6) +0.23/1 0}
8. h3 Bd7 {(Bd7) +0.38/1 0}
9. e3 Nfd5 {(Nfd5) +0.32/1 0}
10. Nxd5 exd5 {(exd5) +0.32/1 0}
11. Ng5 Ke7 {(Ke7) +0.36/1 0}
12. Be2 Kf6 {(Kf6) +0.38/1 0}
13. f4 Rae8 {(Rae8) +0.49/1 0}
14. a3 Nc6 {(Nc6) +0.45/1 0}
15. Ke1 Bf5 {(Bf5) +0.62/1 0}
16. c3 h6 {(h6) +0.68/1 0}
17. Nf3 Bc5 {(Bc5) +0.75/1 0}
18. Nd4 Nxd4 {(Nxd4) +0.77/1 0}
19. cxd4 Bd6 {(Bd6) +0.57/1 0}
20. Bd2 h5 {(h5) +0.38/1}
21. Rc1 h4 {(h4) +0.38/1 0}
22. Rf1 a6 {(a6) +0.43/1 0}
23. Rf2 c6 {(c6) +0.50/1}
24. Rc3 a5 {(a5) +0.57/1 0}
25. Rf3 a4 {(a4) +0.67/1 0}
26. Bd3 Bxd3 {(Bxd3) +0.74/1 0}
27. Rxd3 Kf5 {(Kf5) +0.70/1}
28. Kf1 b6 {(b6) +0.70/1 0}
29. Bc3 Re6 {(Re6) +0.76/1 0}
30. Kg1 Re4 {(Re4) +0.86/1 0}
31. Kh1 Rhe8 {(Rhe8) +1.11/1 0}
32. Bd2 f6 {(f6) +1.08/1 0}
33. Kh2 R4e6 {(R4e6) +0.86/1 0}
34. Kh1 Ke4 {(Ke4) +1.09/1}
35. Rc3 Rc8 {(Rc8) +0.97/1 0}
36. f5 Re7 {(Re7) +0.97/1 0}
37. Bc1 Ra7 {(Ra7) +1.04/1 0}
38. Bd2 Rb7 {(Rb7) +0.94/1 0}
39. Be1 b5 {(b5) +0.30/1 0}
40. Rf2 b4 {(b4) +0.63/1 0}
41. axb4 Rxb4 {(Rxb4) +0.92/1 0}
42. Re2 Kxf5 {(Kxf5) +0.91/1 0}
43. Bxh4 Ke4 {(Ke4) +0.87/1 0}
44. Bf2 f5 {(f5) +0.94/1}
45. Rd2 Rb7 {(Rb7) +1.03/1 0}
46. Rdc2 g5 {(g5) +1.06/1 0}
47. Rxc6 Rxc6 {(Rxc6) +1.56/1 0}
48. Rxc6 Rxb2 {(Rxb2) +1.62/1 0}
49. Rxd6 Rxf2 {(Rxf2) +1.57/1 0}
50. Re6+ Kd3 {(Kd3) +1.49/1 0}
51. Kg1 Rb2 {(Rb2) +1.37/1 0}
52. Re5 a3 {(a3) +1.38/1 0}
53. Rxd5 a2 {(a2) +3.06/1 0}
54. Ra5 Rb1+ {(Rb1+) +3.06/1}
55. Kf2 a1=Q {(a1Q) +3.06/1 0}
56. Rxa1 Rxa1 {(Rxa1) +3.06/1 0}
57. d5 Ra2+ {(Ra2+) +3.02/1 0}
58. Kf3 Re2 {(Re2) +2.74/1 0}
59. g4 Rxe3+ {(Rxe3+) +3.80/1 0}
60. Kg2 fxg4 {(fxg4) +4.23/1 0}
61. hxg4 Re2+ {(Re2+) +3.88/1 0}
62. Kh3 Kc4 {(Kc4) +3.67/1}
63. d6 Re3+ {(Re3+) +3.55/1 0}
64. Kh2 Rd3 {(Rd3) +3.48/1 0}
65. d7 Rxd7 {(Rxd7) +4.95/1 0}
66. Kg2 Kd4 {(Kd4) +4.90/1 0}
67. Kf3 Rf7+ {(Rf7+) +5.00/1}
68. Kg3 Re7 {(Re7) +4.82/1}
69. Kf3 Re3+ {(Re3+) +5.02/1 0}
70. Kg2 Re2+ {(Re2+) +4.93/1 0}
71. Kg1 Rc2 {(Rc2) +5.34/1 0}
72. Kh1 Ke4 {(Ke4) +5.52/1}
73. Kg1 Rd2 {(Rd2) +5.34/1 0}
74. Kf1 Rb2 {(Rb2) +5.27/1}
75. Ke1 Ra2 {(Ra2) +5.20/1 0}
76. Kd1 Rb2 {(Rb2) +5.20/1 0}
77. Kc1 Rf2 {(Rf2) +5.27/1 0}
78. Kd1 Ra2 {(Ra2) +5.20/1 0}
79. Ke1 Rb2 {(Rb2) +5.20/1 0}
80. Kd1 Rf2 {(Rf2) +5.20/1 0}
81. Kc1 Kd4 {(Kd4) +5.27/1 0}
82. Kd1 Ra2 {(Ra2) +5.20/1 0}
83. Ke1 Ke3 {me}
84. Kd1 Rd2+ {(Rd2+) +5.29/1 0}
85. Kc1 Rf2 {(Rf2) +5.18/1 0}
86. Kb1 Kd4 {(Kd4) +5.34/1 0}
87. Ka1 Rc2 {(Rc2) +5.52/1 0}
88. Kb1 Re2 {(Re2) +5.34/1 0}
89. Ka1 Kc3 {me}
90. Kb1 Rb2+ {(Rb2+) +5.29/1 0}
91. Kc1 Rd2 {(Rd2) +5.11/1 0}
92. Kb1 Kb3 {me}
93. ... {White resigns} 0-1
This time only depth 1.
Move list fucked up again.
> I think your web connection was slow or something wrong that the
> moves were written twice. I found many moves were sent twice which
> made the move list wrong. I have edited the move list So now you can
> see the correct version of the game played and analyze your game with
> higher levels.
My Internet connection is fine for everything else. How slow can
transferring a single move be? At 80 cps (slowest link I ever
experienced) you should be able to send 16 moves per second or so.
> Visit: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM55003&game=Chess to
> have your game analyzed by higher levels. You can see score given to
> each move by higher levels. And see whats the difference in scores
> given by Rybka and GetClub.
See above.
> I find GetClub was taking 2 sec / move.
That's about the time that Rybka took for the hole game.
> Since Baby Level is the
> weakest Level at GetClub It do not gave good challenge to Rybka. How
> about a game between
>
> Rybka [5 sec/ move] vs Easy Level [32 sec/ move]
Did it just now, with the above time controls, of course. It has
beaten your slowest level at 2s per move, remember?
So far Getclub regularly spends several minutes on a move, after being
out of book at move 3. Far more than your advertised 32s, and more than
40s the website mentions.
> That will be a nice game to watch as both engines will get enough time
> to analyze each moves. I suggest you use fast computer/ net connection
> to avoid error in recording game.
This is a single core Pentium 4 at 3.4 GHz with a 12Mbit DSL fast path
connection. Is that enough for your program?
mfg, simon .... l
Sanny
That was in old days when Master Level used to think 1-2 hrs / move.
But now, Master Level thinks on Average 10 min / move. However for
complex positions it may think upto 1 hour. But such moves will be not
more than once in a game.
Even Baby Level: 2 sec / move is a good player, Strong enough for all
average players.
Master Level is only for the most dreaded player you can think of. Or
the Big Chess Engines.
Kelsey Bjarnason
On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 02:15:16 -0800, Sanny wrote:
> This week a major improvements were done to GetClub Chess.
>
> I suppose, now GetClub will play as good as other Commercial programs.
> [Top 10]
http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM55030&game=Chess
Okay, that's on "easy" - 30-40 seconds per move, rather than on whatever
the top level is. However...
1) The chess program I used against it is good, but hardly the best in
the world (Crafty)
2) I gave Crafty a fixed 20 seconds per move - not 30-40
3) Your engine regularly used considerably more than the allotted time
4) Despite it taunting "I'm winning, boy" and the like, it lost anyhow.
5) As it lost the previous match, using the same settings, although it
won this one a _little_ more slowly.
I'd try Crafty against it on the upper levels, but for two points: first,
the UI won't let me pick the higher levels, and second, I'm not sure my
life expectancy is actually less than the expected duration of the game,
given the way Getclub treats time controls.
Sanny
> searching deep, Rybka couldn't find a mate. Probably had to go through
> position repetitions to finally find one, but that was too tiresome for me.
>
> [Date "2009.12.21"]
> [White "Getclub easy"]
> [Black "Rybka 2.2"]
> [Result "0-1"]
> [TimeControl "1+0"]
Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM55012&game=Chess
Was Rybka thinking 1 sec / move against the Easy Level? Or it was 1
second for complete game?
> This time only depth 1.
Did you forced it to think only 1 ply? How can a program sees
exchanges by seeing just 1 ply?
> > I think your web connection was slow or something wrong that the
> > moves were written twice. I found many moves were sent twice which
> > made the move list wrong. I have edited the move list So now you can
> > see the correct version of the game played and analyze your game with
> > higher levels.
>
> My Internet connection is fine for everything else. How slow can
> transferring a single move be? At 80 cps (slowest link I ever
> experienced) you should be able to send 16 moves per second or so.
Then there is some other problem. Do you have latest Java Installed?
and what Browser you are working on?
> > Rybka [5 sec/ move] vs Easy Level [32 sec/ move]
>
> Did it just now, with the above time controls, of course. It has
> beaten your slowest level at 2s per move, remember?
>
> So far Getclub regularly spends several minutes on a move, after being
> out of book at move 3. Far more than your advertised 32s, and more than
> 40s the website mentions.
Yes 32 sec / move is the average time. For complex moves It may take
more time.
> > That will be a nice game to watch as both engines will get enough time
> > to analyze each moves. I suggest you use fast computer/ net connection
> > to avoid error in recording game.
>
> This is a single core Pentium 4 at 3.4 GHz with a 12Mbit DSL fast path
> connection. Is that enough for your program?
Thats simmilar Computer to what I have. I face no problem with my
Pentium 4 - 3.0 GHz. Its good for all works. I never find any need to
upgrade to a dual core / quad core.
I only use my computer to search websites, chatting and play Chess at
GetClub.com And my old Pentium 4 - 3.0 Ghz is fast enough for all
works. I think the problem lies somewhere else.
Like latest JVM. / Or the Firewall may be sending same messages twice.
From what I saw many moves were posted twice. And I deleted the
duplicate moves and then original move list was found. What OS you are
having?
Sanny
>
> > I suppose, now GetClub will play as good as other Commercial programs.
> > [Top 10]
>
> http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM55030&game=Chess
> I'd try Crafty against it on the upper levels, but for two points: first,
> the UI won't let me pick the higher levels, and second, I'm not sure my
> life expectancy is actually less than the expected duration of the game,
> given the way Getclub treats time controls.
You must win a few more games and get your Rating greater than 1100+.
Only those players whose rating is more than 1100+ are allowed to play
with Higher Levels.
After your rating becomes 1100+. You can play with.
1. Normal Level: 2 - 4 min / move
2. Master Level: 8 - 15 min / move
Your current rating is 1025, Increase your rating to 1100+ to play
with Higher Levels. As after getting a rating of 1100+ the Higher
Levels get Unlock.
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spammer
Kelsey Bjarnason
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 03:36:29 -0800, Sanny wrote:
>> I'd try Crafty against it on the upper levels, but for two points:
>> first, the UI won't let me pick the higher levels, and second, I'm not
>> sure my life expectancy is actually less than the expected duration of
>> the game, given the way Getclub treats time controls.
>
> You must win a few more games and get your Rating greater than 1100+.
> Only those players whose rating is more than 1100+ are allowed to play
> with Higher Levels.
I think you miss an important point:
It's still losing, despite being given _more_ time per move _and_
apparently ignoring its own time controls, against a supposedly inferior
program.
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Spammmmmer