MCHESS Pro 8 Preview game
dit...@my-dejanews.com
In Crema (Italy) there has been a seminar on artificial intelligence and
chess, orgnaized by the University of Milan. The meeting was concluded with a
match between GM Efimov and MCHESS Pro8 (a debout of a preview version of the
soon to be available commercial).
There is asite with info only in Italian: http://www.crema.unimi.it/scacchi/
[Event "Exibition"]
[Site "Crema (Italy)"]
[Date "1998.06.06"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Efimov, Igor"]
[Black "MCHESS Pro 8.0, Pentium II 333Mhz"]
[Result "1/2"]
[ECO "A38"]
1.c4 Nf6 2.Nf3 c5 3.Nc3 d5 4.cxd5 Nxd5 5.g3 Nc6 6.Bg2 g6 7.d3 Bg7 8.Bd2 O-O
9.O-O Nc7 10.Rb1 b6 11.Qc1 Bg4 12.Bh6 Qd7 13.Bxg7 Kxg7 14.Qf4 Rad8 15.Rfc1 f6
16.a3 e5 17.Qa4 a5 18.Nd2 Nd4 19.Qxd7+ Rxd7 20.Kf1 Rg8 21.h3 Be6 22.b4 axb4
23.axb4 cxb4 24.Rxb4 Rb8 25.Rcb1 b5 26.R4b2 Rdd8 27.Nde4 Bc8 28.Nc5 f5
29.Ra2 Kh6 30.Rab2 Na6 31.Nxa6 Bxa6 32.Nd5 Bb7 33.Nb4 Bxg2+ 34.Kxg2 Rbc8
35.Ra2 Rc3 36.Rbb2 Rb3 37.Rxb3 Nxb3 38.Nc6 Rd5 39.Ra7 Nd4 40. Nxd4 Rxd4
41.Rb7 e4 42.dxe4 Rxe4 43.e3 b4 44.h4 Rc4 45.Kf3 Re4 46.Ke2 Rc4 47.Kd2 g5
48.hxg5+ Kxg5 49.Rxh7 b3 50.Rg7+ Kh5 51.Rh7+ Kg5 52.Rg7+ Kh5 53.Rh7+ Kg5
1/2
regards
Franz
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OHall86418
What was the time control for this game.
Komputer Korner
It is sad that one of the most important pieces of information about a
game "the time control" is usually left out of the PGN tags.
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dit...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
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dit...@my-dejanews.com
Sorry but that info was not available. The squedule of the meeting said that
the mactch was suposed to last from 2pm to 6pm, so I guess it was "long" game.
bye
Har...@t-online.de
quoting a mail from dit...@my-dejanews.com concerning MCHESS Pro 8 Preview game
> In Crema (Italy) there has been a seminar on artificial intelligence and
> chess, orgnaized by the University of Milan. The meeting was concluded with
> a match between GM Efimov and MCHESS Pro8 (a debout of a preview version of
> the soon to be available commercial).
Do you know if this version will be windows-version or still dos?
BTW has anyone the games between Kasparov and Topalov?
Harald Faber
Lonnie
dit...@my-dejanews.com
I've got confirmation from the organizers: the match was set up with 2h each
player for the full game. The draw was signed when white had 5 minuts on the
clock and black 1/2h. I don't know anything abot the program, but it was
version 8. Sorry. regards Franz
OHall86418
I think this draw proves m-chess 8 is atleast grandmaster Strength, if not then
most certainly Strong I.M
Dann Corbit
OHall86418 wrote in message
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>I think this draw proves m-chess 8 is atleast grandmaster Strength, if not
then
>most certainly Strong I.M
2530, to say that a single draw makes a program equal to a GM is absolutely
ludicrous. It may be true that this program is on a par. But a single draw
with a GM proves nothing of the sort. Now, "MChess Pro 7.1 Pentium MMX 200
M" is rated at 2523 by the SSDF, but that also does not make even that
program/machine combination equal to a GM. A long series of games against
GM's at tournament controls will make a determination like that.
Computer chess programs are incredible from a tactical standpoint and almost
never make errors. But to say that they are equal to GM's with a _single
draw_ as your basis is a weird reach.
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OHall86418
Well it certainly proves something!!! You couldn't draw a grandmaster even in
your wildest dreams so now!!
Dann Corbit
Of course. But it does not prove what you claimed. I even admitted that it
**might** be at GM level. It is just that you have not proved your wild,
unfounded conjecture.
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Eric Hallsworth
In article <199806192337...@ladder03.news.aol.com>, OHall86418
<ohall...@aol.com> writes
>I think this draw proves m-chess 8 is atleast grandmaster Strength, if not then
>most certainly Strong I.M
In June 1997 MChessPRO 6 (on a Pent MMX/200) beat the same Efimov in a
match at G/30 by 3.5-2.5.
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Eric Hallsworth
In article <p71vZGAe...@elhchess.demon.co.uk>, Eric Hallsworth
<er...@elhchess.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <199806192337...@ladder03.news.aol.com>, OHall86418
><ohall...@aol.com> writes
>>I think this draw proves m-chess 8 is atleast grandmaster Strength, if not then
>>most certainly Strong I.M
>
>In June 1997 MChessPRO 6 (on a Pent MMX/200) beat the same Efimov in a
J...@suffolk.lib
>In article <p71vZGAe...@elhchess.demon.co.uk>, Eric Hallsworth
><er...@elhchess.demon.co.uk> writes
>>In article <199806192337...@ladder03.news.aol.com>, OHall86418
>><ohall...@aol.com> writes
>>>I think this draw proves m-chess 8 is atleast grandmaster Strength, if not then
>>>most certainly Strong I.M
At least until a GM becomes familiar with it. :)
Jon
john quill taylor
Eric Hallsworth <er...@elhchess.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In June 1997 MChessPRO 6 (on a Pent MMX/200) beat the same Efimov in a
>match at G/30 by 3.5-2.5.
Specifically: In June 1997 MChessPRO 6 (on a Pent MMX/200) beat the
June 1997 version of Efimov... (not really the "same" Efimov) :-)
- jqt -
Max
On Thu, 18 Jun 1998 13:01:12 GMT, dit...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>In Crema (Italy) there has been a seminar on artificial intelligence and
>chess, orgnaized by the University of Milan. The meeting was concluded with a
>match between GM Efimov and MCHESS Pro8 (a debout of a preview version of the
>soon to be available commercial).
>
>There is asite with info only in Italian: http://www.crema.unimi.it/scacchi/
>
>[Event "Exibition"]
>[Site "Crema (Italy)"]
>[Date "1998.06.06"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "Efimov, Igor"]
>[Black "MCHESS Pro 8.0, Pentium II 333Mhz"]
>[Result "1/2"]
>[ECO "A38"]
>1.c4 Nf6 2.Nf3 c5 3.Nc3 d5 4.cxd5 Nxd5 5.g3 Nc6 6.Bg2 g6 7.d3 Bg7 8.Bd2 O-O
>9.O-O Nc7 10.Rb1 b6 11.Qc1 Bg4 12.Bh6 Qd7 13.Bxg7 Kxg7 14.Qf4 Rad8 15.Rfc1 f6
>16.a3 e5 17.Qa4 a5 18.Nd2 Nd4 19.Qxd7+ Rxd7 20.Kf1 Rg8 21.h3 Be6 22.b4 axb4
>23.axb4 cxb4 24.Rxb4 Rb8 25.Rcb1 b5 26.R4b2 Rdd8 27.Nde4 Bc8 28.Nc5 f5
>29.Ra2 Kh6 30.Rab2 Na6 31.Nxa6 Bxa6 32.Nd5 Bb7 33.Nb4 Bxg2+ 34.Kxg2 Rbc8
>35.Ra2 Rc3 36.Rbb2 Rb3 37.Rxb3 Nxb3 38.Nc6 Rd5 39.Ra7 Nd4 40. Nxd4 Rxd4
>41.Rb7 e4 42.dxe4 Rxe4 43.e3 b4 44.h4 Rc4 45.Kf3 Re4 46.Ke2 Rc4 47.Kd2 g5
>48.hxg5+ Kxg5 49.Rxh7 b3 50.Rg7+ Kh5 51.Rh7+ Kg5 52.Rg7+ Kh5 53.Rh7+ Kg5
>1/2
>
I was in Crema this day.
Did you note the black move's Number 20: Rg8 ?
What do you think about it?
Public of this match saw that M-chess didn't know what play and it
choosed one useless move!!
bye Max
Har...@t-online.de
quoting a mail from J...@suffolk.lib concerning Re: MCHESS Pro 8 Preview game
> >>>I think this draw proves m-chess 8 is atleast grandmaster Strength, if
> >>>not then most certainly Strong I.M
>
> At least until a GM becomes familiar with it. :)
> Jon
As I say. Fritz, Genius and maybe Rebel are popular training partners for
many chess players. So they get used to them and sooner or later they know
how to beat them. Unknown (for them) programs have advantage on their
side.
> >>In June 1997 MChessPRO 6 (on a Pent MMX/200) beat the same Efimov in a
> >>match at G/30 (correction, sorry, it was G/60... Eric) by 3.5-2.5.
Harald Faber
Har...@t-online.de
quoting a mail from john-qui...@hp.com concerning Re: MCHESS Pro 8 Preview game
> >In June 1997 MChessPRO 6 (on a Pent MMX/200) beat the same Efimov in a
> >match at G/30 by 3.5-2.5.
>
> Specifically: In June 1997 MChessPRO 6 (on a Pent MMX/200) beat the
> June 1997 version of Efimov... (not really the "same" Efimov) :-)
> - jqt -
Probably Efimov has trained on MCP...
Harald Faber