Sargon V
parrot-head
you tell me what you thought?
PMG
for some Mac program download links, Sargon not being one of them as far as I
know.
Pete
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Gremlin
<pimpda...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>has anybody ever heard of a chess program called Sargon V(5). If so could
>you tell me what you thought?
>
>
>
I owned Sargon 3 and 4 back in the days of Apple II e. It sucked!
pulgao
>I think it's a Mac program, do Jimmy Buffet fans use Macs?
I think it's required, isn't it? (Don't rat me out to Jimmy, but I'm a
PC guy)
See my web page
>for some Mac program download links, Sargon not being one of them as far as I
>know.
>
I've got Sargon 4 (for PC). It's been ages since I played it, but I
thought it was all right at the time, though a bit light on features.
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Richard A. Fowell
parrot-head <pimpda...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>has anybody ever heard of a chess program called Sargon V(5). If so could
>you tell me what you thought?
>
written for PCs/Macs by the Spracklens. I own the Mac version, I don't
know if there was a PC version. The features list was adequate, but
nothing great, for the day. The B/W pieces were lousy, but the color
set was okay. It was pretty darn strong - no HIARCS/REBEL/CM6000, but
it came in 110 points below HIARCS 6 on the CCR 1-hour test, and 60
points lower on the Maresch test, which is pretty good. It was old in
1995, 68K code only. The Spracklens also wrote the engines for a lot
of the Fidelity standalone computers, I think.
Sargon is probably the strongest program that runs on a Mac Plus,
and should be available cheap. For a modern machine, the freeware
Sigma Chess Lite or MacChess are probably fine (and better features)
unless you really need the strength, in which case HIARCS 7.0 Mac
is your best bet
Check out my site (after my signature) for links to Mac chess software.
Richard A. Fowell (fow...@netcom.com)
http://dmoz.org/Games/Board_Games/Chess/Software/Macintosh/
Edward L. Crosby III
> I own the Mac version, I don't know if there was a PC version.
There was. It came out in about '93, and credits a Kevin E. Leavelle as the
author of the "PC engine." It's OK, but the interface graphics are a bit
choppy (low-res). Its range of options are about on a par with those of
CM2100.
Regards,
Ed
John R. Menke, Sr.
mid/late-1980's. At the time, it seemed pretty good to me.
If I recall correctly, Dan & Kathe Spracklen were the
programmers.
--JRM
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Ian Osgood
Richard A. Fowell <fow...@netcom.com> wrote in message
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> In article <giYD3.3238$eJ2....@news1.mia>,
...
> Sargon [V] is probably the strongest program that runs on a Mac Plus,
> and should be available cheap.
What about Psion Chess for the Mac Plus, by Richard Lang? He really knew
how to get a lot out of a slow processor. Does Psion still run on modern
Macs? Is it available anywhere?
Ian
Paul Onstad
>
> Richard A. Fowell <fow...@netcom.com> wrote in message
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> > In article <giYD3.3238$eJ2....@news1.mia>,
> ...
> > Sargon [V] is probably the strongest program that runs on a Mac Plus,
> > and should be available cheap.
>
> What about Psion Chess for the Mac Plus, by Richard Lang? He really knew
> how to get a lot out of a slow processor. Does Psion still run on modern
> Macs? Is it available anywhere?
It still runs on mine, but then I'm running 6.something. Psion was an
amazing little beast. Still is. It is great for endgames except that maybe
5% of the time it does something off the wall. And, like you say, it gets
there quickly; there is little gained by letting Psion think for more than a
minute or so. Sargon OTOH was a broad-bander. I think it would have done
well if it had been able to keep up with the operating systems.
-Paul
PMG
Paul Onstad wrote:
Oddly enough you can actually get a download of Sargon5 for Dos at:
http://activision.downloadstore.com/products/d40900.html but it'll cost $16.95
to get the download. I hate to admit that curiosity got the best of me and I
tried it. It really does need to be run in Dos. It's an interesting antique.
Has an entertaining 3D board, a big old hand comes down and moves the Chess
peices for you, but a skeletin hand comes down and moves them for Sargon.
I found that if you run it from a batch file, you need to ad "pause" after
changing directories, in order to get the sound to work, otherwise it will
remain silent,
So something to the effect of:
@echo off
cd\sargon5
pause
sargon5
should do the trick and allow sound. Again, not to be run in Windows (at least
on my computer)
Pete
parrot-head
online on one 3½ floppy or two 5¼ floppy's. I forgot that it was a dos
based program. I may end up installing it just so i'll have a chess game on
my computer.
or would anybody have a better program i could download that's freeware. And
if so perhaps a link.
Thanks
Gabe
PMG
parrot-head wrote:
> I found the game and it's still in the box. it's suprising to find it's
> online on one 3˝ floppy or two 5ź floppy's. I forgot that it was a dos
> based program. I may end up installing it just so i'll have a chess game on
> my computer.
>
> or would anybody have a better program i could download that's freeware. And
> if so perhaps a link.
>
> Thanks
>
> Gabe
I'm only assuming that you have Windows 95 or 98, if you do (and people are
probably tired of hearing me recommend this one) the Bringer program is really
a good program and can be found at Gambitsoft at:
http://www.gambitsoft.com/sharee.htm if you end up trying Bringer, it'll start
out being in German, but don't panic, go to the Ansicht menu and at the bottom
click on Sprache and select English.
It's a far more refined program than Sargon, you may need to play around with
things like board size & time controls to get it adjusted the way you want it to
be, but I think it's less work than figuring out Sargon.
But I'd still install Sargon anyhow, I'm finding it a very ammusing program at
the moment, but somewhat difficult to figure out, seems like early graphic user
interface stuff to me.
Pete
parrot-head
Python's Chessmaster Live. I remember playing it once and it was very
amusing. if you didn't move for a few minutes the other player would slowly
remove one of your players but when you clickback on the board, it comes
back. I will have to see if i can get that game back if i can only remember
where i borrowed it from. oh well, Yes i am running 98. And i'm sure i'd
freak when it's in german but thanks for the help.
Gabe
Stan Rydz
the early version of Sargon. It was published by Hayden in 1978. I used it
back then to learn 8080 assembly language and to get some understanding of
how a chess program works. I don't know if the book is still in print.
Edward L. Crosby III
> If any of you would like a funny chess game i think the name of it is
> Monty Python's Chessmaster Live.
Could that have been "Chess Maniac 5 Billion? I seem to remember that
your opponent started the chessboard on fire, or some such, if you
weren't paying strict attention. I haven't had it on my system for some
time, though. Not "serious" enough for me.
Regards,
Ed
PMG
That sounds better than Battle Chess though. And look how popular that
(thing) is.
Pete
PMG
National Lampoon's Chess Maniac 5 Billion and 1--Item no. 00123 What happens
when the studied seriousness of the grand game of chess meets up with National
Lampoon's notorious brand of Bizarre humor? Chess Maniac 5 Billion and 1! It
Features 10 levels of real chess, from beginner to advanced. Along with 60
outlandish ways for one piece to take another, lots of disgusting digitized
sounds and a hilarious manual. $39.95
don't know if that's it, looks a bit pricey to me.
Pete
parrot-head
Billion". It had an option called Nude chess i think. But when you clicked
on it there was a Goat and a sign that said something like "You naughty
boy". I just to love that game simply because it wasn't so serious. And then
there was some voice that would say "it's your move, dave". I'm not sure if
this is the same game your talking about.
Gabe
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Bernard Pulham
parrot-head wrote:
> For some reason or another i do believe it was called "Chess Maniac 5
> Billion". It had an option called Nude chess i think. But when you clicked
> on it there was a Goat and a sign that said something like "You naughty
> boy". I just to love that game simply because it wasn't so serious. And then
> there was some voice that would say "it's your move, dave". I'm not sure if
> this is the same game your talking about.
Chess Maniac 5 Billion. I nearly bought it just because of the name. Very funny
satire on Chessmaster 5 billion and its ilk. I'm just glad it made it to the
shelves to take the rest down a peg or two. (Is it true that every program ever
claims to be a champion on the back of the box?).
I had Sargon V on the Mac, and it was much stronger than chessmaster 3000. Poor
interface and Graphics for Sargon, but less bugs than Chessmaster 3000 mac,
which refused to vary lines randomly in the opening. However that was in the
days before gigaflops and Hiarcs so its all rather meaningless now.
Edward L. Crosby III
> It had an option called Nude chess i think.
That sounds like the one I'm thinking of, although I don't remember the nude
chess option. Guess I'll have to reinstall it <g>....
Regards,
Ed
Edward L. Crosby III
> Features 10 levels of real chess, from beginner to advanced. Along with 60
> outlandish ways for one piece to take another, lots of disgusting digitized
> sounds and a hilarious manual. $39.95
>
That's the one. Although it's not as "hilarious" as the promo would have you
believe -- about on a par with Mad Magazine.
Regards,
Ed
PMG
Pete
Edward L. Crosby III wrote:
parrot-head
a word in the book every time i turn it on? Thanks
Gabe
PMG
parrot-head wrote:
It doesn't ask me for a word in the book so I have no idea what you're talking
about. But I seem to recall something about how you bought a copy that came
from a store because you mentioned a box. What I got cost me 16.95 to
download so there's probably some differences.
I'm trying to figure out what you're talking about but it means nothing to me, a
word in what book? If you enter this "word" and it opens up and funtions
properlly then try hitting Ctrl D and this as I recall will save the settings,
and maybe you won't have to do that next time you start the program.
Pete
Paul Onstad
some versions of Sargon (it is not in mine). The idea was to randomly
require a "word" from the manual....the assumption being that it was easy to
copy a disk, but not the whole manual.
-Paul
hy...@crafty.cis.uab.edu
> parrot-head wrote:
>> Does anybody who owns Sargon V for the PC know how i can make it not ask for
>> a word in the book every time i turn it on? Thanks
>>
>> Gabe
> It doesn't ask me for a word in the book so I have no idea what you're talking
> about. But I seem to recall something about how you bought a copy that came
> from a store because you mentioned a box. What I got cost me 16.95 to
> download so there's probably some differences.
> I'm trying to figure out what you're talking about but it means nothing to me, a
> word in what book? If you enter this "word" and it opens up and funtions
> properlly then try hitting Ctrl D and this as I recall will save the settings,
> and maybe you won't have to do that next time you start the program.
> Pete
This was an old copy protection scheme. Programs came with a small user's
manual, and when you start them up, they ask for a code word from some page.
The idea being that if someone steals a piece of software, they probably
won't also be able to steal the manual that goes with it, so that when asked
for a specific word on a specific page, they can't supply it.
--
Robert Hyatt Computer and Information Sciences
hy...@cis.uab.edu University of Alabama at Birmingham
(205) 934-2213 115A Campbell Hall, UAB Station
(205) 934-5473 FAX Birmingham, AL 35294-1170
Michel Chassey
Sargon 4 asks a trivia like question evry time it
starts. It's a primitive form of copy protection.
HTH,
Michel Chassey
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