Fritz3 configuration problems
S. noorman
Since two years I use Fritz3 on my computer and I like the program very
much. Now, switched to windows 95, I have some problems getting the right
configuration for the program, especially to get some benefit of the hash
tables.
Is there anybody with a solution of this problem?
greetings from Sander Noorman
Holland
panda.re...@xs4all.nl
Hoi Sander,
volges mij lukt het alleen met een opstart floppy (al geprobeerd?)
met speciale (minimum) configuratie.
Ik heb het ook geprobeerd onder win95 (ook met opstarten in dos
modus) maar als ik het me goed herinner lukte het me niet om
himem.sys te disablen en dan wil Fritz3 geen hash tables maken
in het hoge geheugen.
Succes!
Paul M.
pa...@xs4all.nl
Tord Kallqvist Romstad
It is possible to start F3 without a boot disk under Windows 95. I know at
least two ways to do this:
The simplest solution, in my opinion, is to reboot the computer, and press
F8 when the message "Starting Windows 95" appears on the screen. Then chose
"Safe mode command prompt only" (item 6, i think) from the menu that appears.
After that, you load your mouse driver manually and start Fritz with the
/x switch.
It is also possible to create a shortcut from the Windows 95 GUI. I don't
remember the details, but you have to specify that the program should be
run in MS-DOS mode (of course). You will also have to create CONFIG.SYS
and AUTOEXEC.BAT files for the program. These files should be similar to
the startup files you used with Fritz 3 under MS-DOS 6. The only important
difference is that you need to insert the line
DOS=NOAUTO
in the CONFIG.SYS file. This is necessary to prevent HIMEM.SYS to be loaded
(As Paul points out, W95 loads HIMEM even when you don't ask for it).
Good luck!
Tord
Bluebeard
You have to put the line "dos=noauto" in your config.sys. This will make
is skip reading the msdos.sys file on startup. Then you can create a
multi-boot configuration, one that goes to Fritz3 and one that goes to
Win95.
An even easier way is to create a batch file that loads your mouse, then
loads Fritz3 with max hash tables. When your computer first starts up, you
see "Starting Windows 95", hit "shift-f5" to skip your startup files and
then run the Fritz3 batch file.
S. noorman <noo...@worldonline.nl> wrote in article
<01bcbc4c$fc79ac20$0100007f@noorman>...
Tim Mirabile
rom...@menelaos.uio.no (Tord Kallqvist Romstad) wrote:
>The only important
>difference is that you need to insert the line
>
>DOS=NOAUTO
>
>in the CONFIG.SYS file. This is necessary to prevent HIMEM.SYS to be loaded
>(As Paul points out, W95 loads HIMEM even when you don't ask for it).
Arrgh!!!!!! I wish I knew this sooner.
I am learning to hate Windows 95 more and more every day. :(
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Tord Kallqvist Romstad
In article <341b6987...@snews2.zippo.com>, Tim Mirabile wrote:
>rom...@menelaos.uio.no (Tord Kallqvist Romstad) wrote:
>
>>The only important
>>difference is that you need to insert the line
>>
>>DOS=NOAUTO
>>
>>in the CONFIG.SYS file. This is necessary to prevent HIMEM.SYS to be loaded
>>(As Paul points out, W95 loads HIMEM even when you don't ask for it).
>
>Arrgh!!!!!! I wish I knew this sooner.
>
>I am learning to hate Windows 95 more and more every day. :(
I agree 100%. I hope we will see Linux versions of the top programs some
day... The chess programs are the only reason I keep Windows on my computer.
Tord
Tim Mirabile
I'd love to go totally to Linux at home, but I'd still have to provide tech
support for people with Windows 95. Basically I spent quite some time on the
phone with customers trying to figure out why "HIARCS -x" would not use extended
memory even though we used "f8" at bootup and "safe mode command prompt only".
"mem /c" revealed that HIMEM was still loading and that there was no extended
memory free, but the only way I knew to stop this was with a boot disk.
I wonder how good the Windows emulators for Linux are. If they would only run
the ChessBase demo (I would never expect any copy prot. or dongled stuff to
work) and a few other things I need...
Bernhard Sadlowski
Tim Mirabile <t...@mail.htp.com> wrote:
>rom...@hektor.uio.no (Tord Kallqvist Romstad) wrote:
>>I agree 100%. I hope we will see Linux versions of the top programs some
>>day... The chess programs are the only reason I keep Windows on my computer.
>
>I'd love to go totally to Linux at home, but I'd still have to provide tech
>support for people with Windows 95. Basically I spent quite some time on the
>phone with customers trying to figure out why "HIARCS -x" would not use extended
>memory even though we used "f8" at bootup and "safe mode command prompt only".
>"mem /c" revealed that HIMEM was still loading and that there was no extended
>memory free, but the only way I knew to stop this was with a boot disk.
>
>I wonder how good the Windows emulators for Linux are. If they would only run
>the ChessBase demo (I would never expect any copy prot. or dongled stuff to
>work) and a few other things I need...
If you experiment a bit, you may have some limited success with Wine,
the free windows emulator. I've used Wine-970720, but there should be
already a newer version there.
Having native chess programs or databases for Linux would be much
better.
Bernhard
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Jan-Frode Myklebust
Bernhard Sadlowski (sadl...@mathematiX.uni-bielefeld.de) wrote:
Use Fritz4 and Genius2 in WINE and WABI, and it works pretty good, but
the best program under Linux is Fritz 3 in DOSEMU. It runs perfectly in
console, but I am regretfully not able to run it under X (Please tell me
if you are!!) When I try to run Rebel 8 in DOSEMU, it complains that this
is not a proper installation of it, so I guess even Rebel would have
worked fine, if it wasn't for the stupid copy protection!
Does anybody else have any experience with (DOS/WIN) chess-software that run
under Linux?
janfrode
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Jan-Frode Myklebust
Institute of Informatics
University of Bergen
Bernhard Sadlowski
Jan-Frode Myklebust <s7...@ugress.uib.no> wrote:
>Bernhard Sadlowski (sadl...@mathematiX.uni-bielefeld.de) wrote:
>: If you experiment a bit, you may have some limited success with Wine,
>: the free windows emulator. I've used Wine-970720, but there should be
>: already a newer version there.
>:
>: Having native chess programs or databases for Linux would be much
>: better.
>
>the best program under Linux is Fritz 3 in DOSEMU. It runs perfectly in
>console, but I am regretfully not able to run it under X (Please tell me
>if you are!!) When I try to run Rebel 8 in DOSEMU, it complains that this
>is not a proper installation of it, so I guess even Rebel would have
>worked fine, if it wasn't for the stupid copy protection!
Even the (not copy protected) demo versions of Rebel and Rebel Decade
don't run with DOSEMU. They stop with a GPE.
Alberto Vignani <alberto...@torino.alpcom.it>, a DOSEMU developer
explained this behaviour:
"The program assumes it can access a segment with limit=0xffffffff,
while the kernel presence at 0xc0000000 forces dosemu to reduce the
segment limit. As soon as the program tries to access kernel space,
there is a GP fault.
Rebel1.2 faults while doing a 'rep scas', as soon as edi reaches a
value around 0xbfffxxxx. Probably there is nothing to do at the moment.
I was trying Quake, and it shows the same symptoms."
(I hope it is ok to quote his email to me...)
I wonder if maybe Ed Schröder could be able to change this, so using
Rebel* under DOSEMU would be possible.
>Does anybody else have any experience with (DOS/WIN) chess-software that run
>under Linux?
Genius3 works too, but not under X.
Jan-Frode Myklebust
Bernhard Sadlowski (sadl...@mathematiX.uni-bielefeld.de) wrote:
: Jan-Frode Myklebust <s7...@ugress.uib.no> wrote:
: >Bernhard Sadlowski (sadl...@mathematiX.uni-bielefeld.de) wrote:
: >: If you experiment a bit, you may have some limited success with Wine,
: >: the free windows emulator. I've used Wine-970720, but there should be
: >: already a newer version there.
:
: Even the (not copy protected) demo versions of Rebel and Rebel Decade
: don't run with DOSEMU. They stop with a GPE.
In rebel 8 it's not a GPE, it's a "This is not a valid installation"- Error
:
: I wonder if maybe Ed Schröder could be able to change this, so using
: Rebel* under DOSEMU would be possible.
:
With a little help from our friends (Bob Hyatt?) maybe...
: >Does anybody else have any experience with (DOS/WIN) chess-software that run
: >under Linux?
:
: Genius3 works too, but not under X.
Is it a Dos program, not Win?
Tord Kallqvist Romstad
In article <6082gf$l9l$2...@toralf.uib.no>, Jan-Frode Myklebust wrote:
>Bernhard Sadlowski (sadl...@mathematiX.uni-bielefeld.de) wrote:
>: Jan-Frode Myklebust <s7...@ugress.uib.no> wrote:
>: >Bernhard Sadlowski (sadl...@mathematiX.uni-bielefeld.de) wrote:
>: >: If you experiment a bit, you may have some limited success with Wine,
>: >: the free windows emulator. I've used Wine-970720, but there should be
>: >: already a newer version there.
>: >worked fine, if it wasn't for the stupid copy protection!
>:
>: Even the (not copy protected) demo versions of Rebel and Rebel Decade
>: don't run with DOSEMU. They stop with a GPE.
>
>In rebel 8 it's not a GPE, it's a "This is not a valid installation"- Error
>
>
>:
>: I wonder if maybe Ed Schröder could be able to change this, so using
>: Rebel* under DOSEMU would be possible.
>:
>
>With a little help from our friends (Bob Hyatt?) maybe...
>
>: >Does anybody else have any experience with (DOS/WIN) chess-software that run
>: >under Linux?
>:
>: Genius3 works too, but not under X.
>
>Is it a Dos program, not Win?
Yes, it is a Dos program. Running Dos chess programs under X is usually
not possible, because most chess programs run in 16 color mode (640x480x16).
The last time I checked, xdos only supported 256 color modes.
Another problem is that these programs only work with small hash tables.
With Fritz3, for instance, I only get 64K hash tables under dosemu...
Tord