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Rex Butler

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Dec 25, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/25/96
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I'm in the process of making a Windows 95 chess program. Since I know
you all appreciate a good interface, what RGB values would you suggest
for the squares and the pieces?
Also, once I have these values, how do I make sure Windows makes
a new palette entry that exactly matches these values instead of picking
the nearest color as I draw. A small snippet of code would be
appreciated.
A few comments on things you like to see in a program would be of great
value.
Rex Butler
Not-Quite Chess Programmer

Komputer Korner

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Dec 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/26/96
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Put everything that Genius 5 has and extend the opening book editor
to allow pawn promotions and an unlimited no. of ply in each variatiion
and also add a chesstree that shows the transposition paths and you
would have the perfect windows based chess program. Oh I forgot, add
internet interface capability also. OKAY Santa, I know I want a lot.
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Komputer Korner

The komputer that kouldn't keep a password safe from
prying eyes, kouldn't kompute the square root of 36^n,
kouldn't find the real motive in ChessBase and missed
the real learning feature of Nimzo.

lensp...@aol.com

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Dec 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/26/96
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In article <32C20...@xmission.com>, Rex Butler <but...@xmission.com>
writes:

>I'm in the process of making a Windows 95 chess program. Since I know
>you all appreciate a good interface, what RGB values would you suggest
>for the squares and the pieces?
> Also, once I have these values, how do I make sure Windows makes
>a new palette entry that exactly matches these values instead of picking
>the nearest color as I draw. A small snippet of code would be
>appreciated.
> A few comments on things you like to see in a program would be of
great
>value.
> Rex Butler
> Not-Quite Chess Programmer

For a start, pick a palette that looks good to you as a default, and
include a feature to let the user adjust and set the colors to his/her own
liking. A choice of different textures would also be a big plus. GNU
Chess has this feature, as well as the Chessmaster 3/4/5000 series. As an
aside, if you design any 3D boards and sets, be careful, a lot of programs
with 3D boards have rather hard-to-see graphics. CM4000 is better than
most, but is still a little confusing.

Hope this helps.


MLK and RJP

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Dec 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/30/96
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In article <19961226190...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, lensp...@aol.com
says...
Just my opinion you understand, but....

1. For a start, a black and white 2-D set is the best. It is nice to use a
color picker to choose colors for squares and pieces, but hardly necessary in
a first program. Most serious players appreciate a good, clear 2-D board. If
you want to see what this looks like, download the Chessica demo, or look in
any good chess book.
2. IMHO 3-D boards are very hard to do right. Fritz has the best 3-D board I
have seen, while CM4000 and CM5000 are kludged to avoid actually rendering the
pieces (*and it shows*).

Hope this helps...
--
Robert Pawlak and
Michelle Kienholz
Chess widower's home page at:
http://members.aol.com/mlkienholz/chess.html


Komputer Korner

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Dec 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/31/96
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MLK and RJP wrote:
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> 1. For a start, a black and white 2-D set is the best. It is nice to use a
> color picker to choose colors for squares and pieces, but hardly necessary in
> a first program. Most serious players appreciate a good, clear 2-D board. If
> you want to see what this looks like, download the Chessica demo, or look in
> any good chess book.
> 2. IMHO 3-D boards are very hard to do right. Fritz has the best 3-D board I
> have seen, while CM4000 and CM5000 are kludged to avoid actually rendering the
> pieces (*and it shows*).
>
> Hope this helps...
> --
> Robert Pawlak and
> Michelle Kienholz
> Chess widower's home page at:
> http://members.aol.com/mlkienholz/chess.html

Fritz/Extreme may have the best 3D board you have seen but the 3D
pieces are a joke. In fact I like the board in Genius 5 better than the
one in Fritz and at least the pieces in the 3D setup in Chess Genius 5
are playable with. In fact of all the 3D setups that I have seen,
I rate the CM5000 ebony and ivory board and pieces the best, with the
Chess Genius 3D set and pieces in 2nd place and the Power Chess 3D set
in 3rd place . I am not talking about esthetics here, just how
playable the 3D sets seem to be. That said, I wouldn't want to play a
big money game using a 3D set. Give me the old 2D setup anytime. As for
2D colour vs black and white, I agree that the Fritz 2D black & white
is very nice but it is hard to beat Bookup's coloured set.As for 2nd
place
2D colour, give me the Chess Genius 5 2D set and for 3rd place, it is a
tie between Rebel 8's set and the one in Tascbase 2 with Nimzo a close
4th.

MLK and RJP

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Jan 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/4/97
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In article <32C8B6...@netcom.ca>, kor...@netcom.ca says...

It's not a matter of aesthetics. There is a right way and a wrong way to
display a 3-D set. Look at the pieces in CM4000/5000. THEY ARE ALL THE SAME
SIZE, it doesn't matter whther they are close up or far away. Look at
Fritz/extreme. Pieces far away are smller, the way they should be.

I can;t comment on the Genius 5 set, but the screen shots look very nice.

>That said, I wouldn't want to play a
>big money game using a 3D set. Give me the old 2D setup anytime. As for
>2D colour vs black and white, I agree that the Fritz 2D black & white
>is very nice but it is hard to beat Bookup's coloured set.As for 2nd
>place
>2D colour, give me the Chess Genius 5 2D set and for 3rd place, it is a
>tie between Rebel 8's set and the one in Tascbase 2 with Nimzo a close
>4th.

I play the 3-D set frequently. I find that too much playing with the 2-D board
makes me miss stuff on OTB play.

>
>--
>Komputer Korner
>
>The komputer that kouldn't keep a password safe from
>prying eyes, kouldn't kompute the square root of 36^n,
>kouldn't find the real motive in ChessBase and missed
>the real learning feature of Nimzo.

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