1. e4 e5 2. nf3 c5

[Visonary]

Does this opening have a name? Is 3. Bc3 a bad idea? It seems to me d4 might
be a mistake or is 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 c4 3. d4 cxd4 4. c3 dxc3 5. Nxc3
transpose in to something close to the Smith Moran gambit?

Thanks,
Paul

Please understand I am very weak unrated player.

[Thomas]

Dear chessfriend,

The move order 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 c5 or 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e5 does exist and do make
a sense. I feel that a reasonable continuation might be to accept this
"Gambit" as shown in the following "elder" CC match:

Csipkis,A - Suto,J [B27]
cr, 1894

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e5 3.Nxe5 Qe7 4.d4 Nc6 5.Nxc6 Qxe4+ 6.Be3 Qxc6 7.Nc3 cxd4
8.Qxd4 Nf6 9.0-0-0 Be7 10.Rg1 0-0 11.g4 d6 12.g5 Ne8 13.Bb5 Qc7 14.Nd5 Qd8
15.Bxe8 Rxe8 16.Qf4 Rf8 17.Bd4 Be6 18.Nf6+ Kh8 19.Qh4 Bxf6 20.gxf6 g6
21.Rxg6 Rg8 22.Rdg1 Rxg6 23.Rxg6 Bf5 24.Qh6 Qf8 25.Rg7 a6 26.Bc3 1-0

Best regards

Thomas

WebM...@thomasstock.com
http://thomasstock.com/gambit/

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[Peter Smyth]

Visonary wrote in message ...

+AD4-Does this opening have a name? Is 3. Bc3 a bad idea? It seems to me d4
might
+AD4-be a mistake or is 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 c4 3. d4 cxd4 4. c3 dxc3 5. Nxc3
+AD4-transpose in to something close to the Smith Moran gambit?
+AD4-
+AD4-Thanks,
+AD4-Paul
+AD4-
+AD4-Please understand I am very weak unrated player.
+AD4-
+AD4-
I have no idea how you expect to move 3.Bc3 as this is impossible. If you
mean 3.Bd3 then this is a bad idea as it blocks the d-pawn from moving so
the bishop has to move a second time, losing a tempo. If you mean 3.Bc4 then
this is good move after which 3.Bc4 d6 4.O-O is a likely continuation. You
are correct in supposing that d4 is a mistake and although some people may
play it as a gambit I certainly wouldn't recommend it for an inexperienced
player like yourself. 3.Nxe5 is probably a good move against a weak player
who may not know how to win the pawn back with 3...Qe7 but against
experienced players will not give you any advantage. So probably the best
move to play for a player like yourself is to just continue your development
with 3. Bc4 or 3.Nc3.

[Tim Kokesh]

Peter Smyth wrote:
>3.Nxe5 is probably a good move against a weak player
>who may not know how to win the pawn back with 3...Qe7 but against
>experienced players will not give you any advantage. So probably the best
>move to play for a player like yourself is to just continue your
development
>with 3. Bc4 or 3.Nc3.

Oooooh... I'm going to have to totally disagree on this one. 3. Nxe5(!)
Qe7 4. Nf3 Qxe4+ 5. Be2 with a quick Nb1-c3 gives White a very large
advantage in development.

Tim Kokesh

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stopped." -- Simon Cameron, U. S. Senator from Pennsylvania, demanding
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