Shirov v Anand would have the same problem, and if Shirov wins, Shirov v
Kasparov would still have it. For Kasparov v Anand, on the other hand,
it would be easy to find a sponsor in India (but I believe Kasparov
refuses to play there, because of personal security fears).
The situation isn't simple, Kasparov isn't denying Shirov a match, but
Shirov seems to be asking too much.
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>Shirov did get a chance, but *he* turned it down because the prize money
>was too low. Matches have a "market value" these days, and apparently it
>isn't easy to find a sponsor who pays enough.
>
>Shirov v Anand would have the same problem,
Shirov v Anand has the problem that Anand has refused to compete for a
non-FIDE title.
As the challenger if Shirov feels he truely can beat Kasparov, he should take
whatever money is offered, beat the champ, then HE can dictate the
terms...let's see him win first and make demands later
>Shirov did get a chance, but *he* turned it down because the prize money
>was too low. Matches have a "market value" these days, and apparently it
>isn't easy to find a sponsor who pays enough.
Uh, this was a report which I believe Shirov denied.
Let's not pass it off as fact just yet.
Besides which, Shirov agreed to play for a certain amout of money; even if
he was then offered less, I'd say he's on reasonably solid footing if he
wants to demand what he originally agreed to.
> Besides which, Shirov agreed to play for a certain amout of money; even if
>he was then offered less, I'd say he's on reasonably solid footing if he
>wants to demand what he originally agreed to.
>
Yes, but I don't think Kasparov has a duty to pay that prize money
himself, and if noone else wants to pay it...
I still don't understand why the original Rentero deal didn't work.
Wasn't there a contract?
> Shirov v Anand has the problem that Anand has refused to compete for a
> non-FIDE title.
So does that mean he would turn down an offer to go against Kasparov.
Somehow I think not.
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>In article <368a44cb...@news1.sympatico.ca>, wrote:
>
>> Shirov v Anand has the problem that Anand has refused to compete for a
>> non-FIDE title.
>
>So does that mean he would turn down an offer to go against Kasparov.
>Somehow I think not.
You are incorrect. He is a man of much integrity.
> You are incorrect. He is a man of much integrity.
If he was such a fellow, why did he play against Kasparov in 1995?
Easy, he wanted two bites of the cherry. Nothing wrong in that. If he
was so concerned about staying in the FIDE ranks he shouldn't have
played against Kasparov.
Well, you may have noticed that he already did, by declining to participate
in the offerd match with Kramnik.
If you read his book, you'll note that he really didn't enjoy the way
his last match with Kasparov was organized. I think that may have left
a sour taste in his mouth which he's not to thrilled about repeating.
>In article <368c0f7...@news1.sympatico.ca>, wrote:
>
>> You are incorrect. He is a man of much integrity.
>
>If he was such a fellow, why did he play against Kasparov in 1995?
You don't understand. Anand agreed not to compete for a non-fide title
when he participated in the speed chess tournament for the fide title.
That was after 1995.
Anand's recent, and current, disregard for meeting Kaspy in a match
have more to do with his distaste for playing politics and his
financial independence. I believe you could call it taking the high
road. You could also call it taking the path of least resistance. Both
views have their grains of truth, no doubt.
saludos, Mig
On Sat, 2 Jan 1999 17:59:21 GMT, rm...@netcom.com (Ron Moskovitz)
wrote:
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As this originates from Kasparov, I was curious to what Shirov had to
say about it. According to the latest New in Chess Shirov did not turn
down the offer, but he and Kasparov could not agree on how to divide the
prize money between winner and loser.
Tonek Jansen
Surely a man with *true integrity* wouldn't have played Kasparov in the
first place.
One cannot make an argument that "Anand won't play Kasparov for his
title, hence the title is not valid", if the only thing stopping the
player is a "contractual arrangement" he undertook which because of his
'integrity' stops him from doing so.