GetClub plays Super-Duper
Sanny
Chess.
Now, GetClub plays Super-Duper. meaning It cannot be beaten easily.
Now even Baby level is not a cake.
Here is new Rating to all Levels after improvements.
Baby Level: 2000+ [ 2 sec/move ]
Beginner Level: 2200+ [ 8 sec/move ]
Easy Level: 2400+ [ 32 sec/move ]
Normal Level: 2600+ [ 2 min/move ]
Play Chess: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
So with new improvements, Even Baby & Beginner levels will be very
hard to beat.
Lets see if someone can beat the Easy & Normal Levels?
Can Taylor Kingston & Help Bot beat the Normal Level [ 2 min / move ]
Bye
Sanny
GetClub is Free Chess Engine. No downloads needed. Just Join & play.
Sanny
He is not here since November 2009.
2 months and no sign of "Help Bot"?
Bye
Sanny
Taylor Kingston
> Now, All improvements and ideas I had, were implemented in GetClub
> Chess.
>
> Now, GetClub plays Super-Duper. meaning It cannot be beaten easily.
>
> Now even Baby level is not a cake.
No, it is a pie. A cow-pie.
Stephan Bird
> Now, All improvements and ideas I had, were implemented in GetClub
> Chess.
>
> Now, GetClub plays Super-Duper. meaning It cannot be beaten easily.
>
No, still as poor as ever, here's the latest game
[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "?"]
[Round "-"]
[White "GC"]
[Black "me"]
[Result "*"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Bc5 5. Bxc6 Nf6 6. O-O dxc6 7. Nxe5
O-O 8. Nc3 Re8 9. Nf3 Nxe4 {and GC disconnects, so 0-1?}
Sanny
>
> No, still as poor as ever, here's the latest game
> [Event "?"]
> [Site "?"]
> [Date "?"]
> [Round "-"]
> [White "GC"]
> [Black "me"]
> [Result "*"]
>
> 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Bc5 5. Bxc6 Nf6 6. O-O dxc6 7. Nxe5
> O-O 8. Nc3 Re8 9. Nf3 Nxe4 {and GC disconnects, so 0-1?}
Whenever there is ionternet disconnection the game closes itself, So
that you can start the game again.
Which level, you were playing with? Are you playing manually or using
some engine against it?
If you reconnect the game The game will start from where you left. As
the game is recorded. Let me know if you face any problem at GetClub
Chess.
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
Stephan Bird
>
> Whenever there is ionternet disconnection the game closes itself, So
> that you can start the game again.
So why does Getclub's internet connection keep failing? I don't
disconnect from the net whilst playing, unless GC is taking forever to
play a move, but this disconnection was instantaneous on playing nxp.
> Which level, you were playing with? Are you playing manually or using
> some engine against it?
>
> If you reconnect the game The game will start from where you left. As
> the game is recorded. Let me know if you face any problem at GetClub
> Chess.
You seem to be confusing yourself here, in one instance you enquire as
to the level, yet in the next you say the game is stored, and whenever
I've received the moves after a game the level is listed there.
S
Sanny
> to the level, yet in the next you say the game is stored, and whenever
> I've received the moves after a game the level is listed there.
Yes, I asked you the levels you played this game with.
Baby Level: [ 2 sec / move ]
Beginner Level: [ 8 sec / move ]
Easy Level: [ 32 sec / move ]
All games are stored at GetClub website, So that incase of
disconnection, you re-login and play your disconnected game.
If you visit: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html and login to play
Chess, You can complete the game.
The reasions of disconnections may be.
1. Internet Disconnection
2. A move is sent twice by the server.
In above cases the game is stopped you need to re-login and complete
the game, So that the game is recorded properly.
You can visit GetClub and login to complete the game. Lets see how the
game goes from where you left.
Waiting to see your complete game at GetClub Chess.
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
Why Play at GetClub.com Chess.
1. Its free to play. And view Animated Games. [NO DOWNLOADS]
2. Your games are recorded.along with time taken by you.
3. Your games are analyzed by higher Levels
4. You win Prizes every month. Also get a RATING
5. Earn $1.00 for playing 30 games every month. [Win]
6. Only those games in which you win are counted for $1.00 every
month.
Start a game: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
Sanny
> to the level, yet in the next you say the game is stored, and whenever
> I've received the moves after a game the level is listed there.
Yes, I asked you the levels you played this game with.
Baby Level: [ 2 sec / move ]
Beginner Level: [ 8 sec / move ]
Easy Level: [ 32 sec / move ]
All games are stored at GetClub website, So that incase of
disconnection, you re-login and play your disconnected game.
If you visit: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html and login to play
Chess, You can complete the game.
The reasions of disconnections may be.
1. Internet Disconnection
2. A move is sent twice by the server.
In above cases the game is stopped you need to re-login and complete
the game, So that the game is recorded properly.
You can visit GetClub and login to complete the game. Lets see how the
game goes from where you left.
Waiting to see your complete game at GetClub Chess.
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
Why Play at GetClub.com Chess.
Chris F.A. Johnson
>> > Now, GetClub plays Super-Duper. meaning It cannot be beaten easily.
>>
>> No, still as poor as ever, here's the latest game
>> [Event "?"]
>> [Site "?"]
>> [Date "?"]
>> [Round "-"]
>> [White "GC"]
>> [Black "me"]
>> [Result "*"]
>>
>> 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Bc5 5. Bxc6 Nf6 6. O-O dxc6 7. Nxe5
>> O-O 8. Nc3 Re8 9. Nf3 Nxe4 {and GC disconnects, so 0-1?}
>
> Whenever there is ionternet disconnection the game closes itself, So
> that you can start the game again.
That doesn't address GC's poor play. In that short game it has
already made one serious blunder that would cost it the game
against any reasonable player: 6. 0-0??
--
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Sanny
>> O-O 8. Nc3 Re8 9. Nf3 Nxe4 {and GC disconnects, so 0-1?}
> > Whenever there is ionternet disconnection the game closes itself, So
> > that you can start the game again.
>
> That doesn't address GC's poor play. In that short game it has
> already made one serious blunder that would cost it the game
> against any reasonable player: 6. 0-0??
I analyzed the game with Fritz. At 10th move the score is 0.03+ So
according to Fritz White is at Advantage after 10th move by 0.03
points.
Well 0.03 score means nearly equal position. Well according to you,
Whats wrong with the Castling move? 6. 0-0?
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
Why Play at GetClub.com Chess.
Jon D'Souza-Eva
> On 2010-01-04, Sanny wrote:
> >> > Now, GetClub plays Super-Duper. meaning It cannot be beaten easily.
>
> >> No, still as poor as ever, here's the latest game
> >> [Event "?"]
> >> [Site "?"]
> >> [Date "?"]
> >> [Round "-"]
> >> [White "GC"]
> >> [Black "me"]
> >> [Result "*"]
>
> >> 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Bc5 5. Bxc6 Nf6 6. O-O dxc6 7. Nxe5
Sanny
>
> I assume Black's fifth and sixth moves are the wrong way round.
Yes, you are correct, I remember changing those move when manually
entering the moves in Fritz.
Patrick Volk
<softt...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> You seem to be confusing yourself here, in one instance you enquire as
>> to the level, yet in the next you say the game is stored, and whenever
>> I've received the moves after a game the level is listed there.
>
>Yes, I asked you the levels you played this game with.
>
>Baby Level: [ 2 sec / move ]
>Beginner Level: [ 8 sec / move ]
>Easy Level: [ 32 sec / move ]
>
>All games are stored at GetClub website, So that incase of
>disconnection, you re-login and play your disconnected game.
>
>If you visit: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html and login to play
>Chess, You can complete the game.
>
>The reasions of disconnections may be.
>
>1. Internet Disconnection
>2. A move is sent twice by the server.
1) The internet does *not* "disconnect". I expect your Java app threw
an unhandled exception.
2) Aren't you the server?
>
>In above cases the game is stopped you need to re-login and complete
>the game, So that the game is recorded properly.
The user should not need to do anything... Who is doing who a favor
here?
Martin Brown
>>> 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Bc5 5. Bxc6 Nf6 6. O-O dxc6 7. Nxe5
>>> O-O 8. Nc3 Re8 9. Nf3 Nxe4 {and GC disconnects, so 0-1?}
>
>>> Whenever there is ionternet disconnection the game closes itself, So
>>> that you can start the game again.
>> That doesn't address GC's poor play. In that short game it has
>> already made one serious blunder that would cost it the game
>> against any reasonable player: 6. 0-0??
>
> I analyzed the game with Fritz. At 10th move the score is 0.03+ So
> according to Fritz White is at Advantage after 10th move by 0.03
> points.
Use blundercheck or proper full computer analysis with a reputable
engine to score and find the weak spots in the game. Getclubs "analysis"
is completely hopeless and a complete waste of time.
>
> Well 0.03 score means nearly equal position. Well according to you,
> Whats wrong with the Castling move? 6. 0-0?
It fails to save the bishop that black has forgotten to recapture.
The only plausible moves for black after BxN are 5. .... dxc6 or bxc6 -
everything else loses the exchange. Black blundered at move with
5. .. Nf6
White can now play in decreasing order of strength.
6. Ba4 or Bd5 leaves white the exchange up and very clearly winning.
6. d4, b4 have some merit but are weaker than the *obvious* move(s)
6. Bxd7+, Bxb7 are pretty rubbish but at least grab a pawn.
6. d3, O-O leave the bishop en prise for black to capture
That Getclub could not see this blindingly obvious move is not
encouraging. Moving a piece out of harms way is *very* basic.
The basic evaluation function should generate this move ordering!
White having missed that easy gain should also have played 8. d3 to
support the pawn on e4 and he would then have been slightly ahead.
No engine should ever miss the opportunity to capture material for no
additional risk and should never leave its undefended pieces en prise.
Getclub manages to do both these things in this short game.
It is playing much worse now than it did months ago.
To give some idea of how bad it is my playing strength against engines
is ~2100. I can beat Rybka 2.2 fixed 1 ply in about 24 moves (uses <1s
cpu time for the entire game), and in turn Rybka with the same 1 ply
search can beat Getclub (which takes an age).
You can download the Arena distribution which apart from the slightly
quirky user interface will allow a host of different strong chess
engines to be played with fixed depth search handicaps. Download page:
Arena Downloads and the 18.4MB Arena 2.0.1 Setup includes the free Rybka
2.2 and a bunch of other free engines. I nearly beat SOS 5.1 on my first
try before I had looked up how strong it was. I lost on time.
Regards,
Martin Brown
Sanny
Jon D'Souza-Eva said "I assume Black's fifth and sixth moves are the
wrong way round. "
GetClub cannot make such a huge mistake. this game is wrongly printed.
Today I played a game between Easy Level [32 sec / move] and Fritz [5
sec./ move]
Easy Level survived till 31 moves !!!
Game Played between Fritz [5 sec./ move] and easy [32 sec / move] at
GetClub.com
Fritz [5 sec./ move]: (White)
easy [32 sec / move]: (Black)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM55390&game=Chess
White -- Black
(Fritz [5 sec./ move]) -- (easy [32 sec / move])
1. e2-e4{4} e7-e6{0}
2. d2-d4{32} d7-d5{0}
3. Nb1-c3{14} Bf8-b4{0}
4. e4-e5{16} c7-c5{0}
5. Qd1-g4{12} Ng8-e7{0}
6. d4-c5{18} Bb4-c3{26}
7. b2-c3{4} Ke8-g8{28}
8. Bf1-d3{4} Qd8-c7{108}
9. Ng1-f3{12} Qc7-c5{28}
10. c3-c4{20} Nb8-c6{92}
11. Bd3-h7{154} Kg8-h7{12}
12. Nf3-g5{38} Kh7-g8{14}
13. Qg4-h5{36} Rf8-d8{56}
14. Qh5-h7{78} Kg8-f8{0}
15. Qh7-h8{10} Ne7-g8{0}
16. Ng5-h7{10} Kf8-e7{34}
17. Bc1-g5{22} f7-f6{32}
18. Qh8-g7{24} Ke7-e8{0}
19. e5-f6{16} Ng8-h6{24}
20. Bg5-h6{66} Qc5-b4{64}
21. Bh6-d2{22} Qb4-c5{30}
22. f6-f7{14} Ke8-d7{0}
23. Qf7-f8{Q}{16} Nc6-e7{42}
24. Nh7-f6{14} Kd7-c6{26}
25. Qf8-d8{16} d5-c4{78}
26. Qg7-g3{34} e6-e5{26}
27. Qg3-f3{20} Ne7-d5{30}
28. Qf3-d5{12} Qc5-d5{30}
29. Qd8-d5{8} Kc6-b6{50}
30. Qd5-d6{12} Kb6-b5{0}
Fritz [5 sec./ move]: (White)
easy [32 sec / move]: (Black)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM55390&game=Chess
Do you think this game was played decently by GetClub?
Bye
Sanny
Sanny
The above game is wrongly printed.
Jon D'Souza-Eva "I assume Black's fifth and sixth moves are the wrong
way round. "
GetClub can never make such a big mistake. Its wrongly typed. I played
a game with baby Level and it plays very nicely.
micky
.
> Do you think this game was played decently by GetClub?
I think this game was played "indecently" by Fritz[?] @ {5 sec./move}
...
For examps: 30.Qd6+... is the big coward shite move...
Much better: 30.Qxc4.. Bf5.
31.Rb1#
The Mastah.
>
> Bye
> Sanny
Offramp
> > It is playing much worse now than it did months ago.
>
> The above game is wrongly printed.
>
> Jon D'Souza-Eva "I assume Black's fifth and sixth moves are the wrong
> way round. "
>
> GetClub can never make such a big mistake. Its wrongly typed. I played
> a game with baby Level and it plays very nicely.
Are you saying you type these games out by hand? You don't just cut &
paste them from the site?
Martin Brown
Why could your stupid program not see that
17. ... Kd7 was its only hope here?
Yes it loses the rook immediately, but everything else is much worse and
your program managed to choose the worst possible option of all 4 moves.
I maintain that the program is playing worse now than it did a year ago.
Best play is aiming for draw by perpetual check with mating threats
based on the white queen being out of the way on h8 something like:
17. ... Kd7
18. BxR Qb4+
19. Ke1 Qxc4
20. Rb1 Nb4
21. RxN QxR
22. QxN Qb1+
23. Kd2 QxR
And very probably drawn.
> 18. Qh8-g7{24} Ke7-e8{0}
> 19. e5-f6{16} Ng8-h6{24}
19. ... Ne5 is better Qb4+ Qa5+ would put off the evil day
> 20. Bg5-h6{66} Qc5-b4{64}
20. ... Ne5 or Qd4 both better than the move played
> 21. Bh6-d2{22} Qb4-c5{30}
21. ... Qb2 is the only threat left move played ranks 7/31 (poor)
> 22. f6-f7{14} Ke8-d7{0}
> 23. Qf7-f8{Q}{16} Nc6-e7{42}
> 24. Nh7-f6{14} Kd7-c6{26}
> 25. Qf8-d8{16} d5-c4{78}
> 26. Qg7-g3{34} e6-e5{26}
> 27. Qg3-f3{20} Ne7-d5{30}
> 28. Qf3-d5{12} Qc5-d5{30}
> 29. Qd8-d5{8} Kc6-b6{50}
Again with a choice of two moves Getclub takes the wrong one.
Kc7 prolongs the agony by one more move.
> 30. Qd5-d6{12} Kb6-b5{0}
> Fritz [5 sec./ move]: (White)
> easy [32 sec / move]: (Black)
> Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
> View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM55390&game=Chess
>
> Do you think this game was played decently by GetClub?
No. Not even close.
Regards,
Martin Brown
Martin Brown
The chess engine can see that it isn't a forced mate in 1.
30. ... a6 avoids the mate for another 2 moves.
There are four other mate in 3 availble, but only one mate in 2.
Incidentally I wish Sanny would sort out the game notation.
23. Qf7-f8 is utter bullshit. It isn't promoted to a queen until it
reaches the eighth rank - and all chess GUI's choke on this abortion.
Regards,
Martin Brown