Scandinavian declined

[Damijan Marolt]

I like playing Scandinavian, but lately more and more players avoid it
with a simple:

1. e4 d5
2. e5

What to do after such a move? White is threatening to steer this game
into rather calm waters, like French defense, which is not what an
agressive Scandinavian player is looking for.

Any ideas on how to continue after e5?

Damijan

[Oblomov]

I don't see how to get an aggressive "Scandinavian" setup. But
after 2...Bf5, Black should easily equalize; he has his QB
outside a French Advance pawn chain.

In article <88rkv4$37m$1...@news.uni-lj.si>, EFS3...@rcul.uni-

lj.si (Damijan Marolt) wrote:
>I like playing Scandinavian, but lately more and more players
avoid it
>with a simple:
>
>1. e4 d5
>2. e5
>
>What to do after such a move? White is threatening to steer
this game
>into rather calm waters, like French defense, which is not what
an
>agressive Scandinavian player is looking for.

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In article <88rkv4$37m$1...@news.uni-lj.si>,

EFS3...@rcul.uni-lj.si (Damijan Marolt) wrote:
> I like playing Scandinavian, but lately more and more players avoid it

with

>

> 1. e4 d5
> 2. e5
>
> What to do after such a move? White is threatening to steer this game
> into rather calm waters, like French defense, which is not what an
> agressive Scandinavian player is looking for.
>

> Any ideas on how to continue after e5?
>
> Damijan

The Skandi used to be my main weapon after 1.e4. to my amazement lower
rated and coffee house players tend to meet it with weird replys like
2.Nc3 and 2.e5. I have a much dog-eared and whiskey stained copy of The
Chess Opening For You by Larry Evans [RHM press, 1975]which mentions
the line briefly. Evans claims that after 1.e4,d5 2.e5,c5 "...and black
has an ideal French defense without having hemmed in his QB with
...PK3. White's advanced pawn on K5 requires constant protection."
Other books argue for 2...Bf5. have used both over the years and
prefer 2...c5; it has a certain shock value. Emms in his recent tome
says that "Black has a comfortable game after either 2...Bf5 or 2...c5"
I have an old rapidly falling apart copy of MCO 11 which I used to bone
up on the Advanced French Variation and found that I began to get such
good games against the 2.e5 crowd that I became a French convert; using
the skandi only for blitz. Somebody named Wofgang Ulman [I apologize in
advance if I got the spelling wrong] had a big honking bible on the
French at one time. worth buying if it's still around. if you want
aggressive replies to 1.e4 try the dragon Sicilian! Good hunting!

Regards,
Wereowl

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[Raimund Klein]

Damijan Marolt wrote:

> I like playing Scandinavian, but lately more and more players avoid it

> with a simple:

>
> 1. e4 d5
> 2. e5
>
> What to do after such a move? White is threatening to steer this game
> into rather calm waters, like French defense, which is not what an
> agressive Scandinavian player is looking for.
>
> Any ideas on how to continue after e5?
>
> Damijan

The simplest answer should be 2... c5, leading to a CK advance where
Black has one more tempo than normal.

[Ian Michael Ash]

>> 1. e4 d5
>> 2. e5
>>
>

>The simplest answer should be 2... c5, leading to a CK advance where
>Black has one more tempo than normal.

What about:

1. e4 d5 2. e5 c5 3. Nge2 to be followed up by d4, giving a typical CK
advance position with no loss of tempo?

It seems to me that white can continue his development pretty much as he
normally would in a CK advance, and would only have to change his move order
slightly?

Ian

[Raimund Klein]

Ian Michael Ash wrote:

There IS a loss of tempo: Black has moved c7-c5 in ONE, not TWO moves;
additionally, White should encounter some problems in developing his
light-squared bishop later in the game...

[Rafal Furdzik]

Try c5, it looks like black is ok. After d4 play cxd4. It is not French or
Caro cann, but it has features of both:

French but you can still develop Bishop to f5 or g5
Caro Cann but you do not waste time for c6 and play c5 immedietaly

+ white can not firm a stable centre with d4, you will just take on d4 and
white has to take by queen

So such a move can not be good for white

Please see my site www.grandmastercorner.com for more tips and games you can
study.

----- Original Message -----
From: Damijan Marolt <EFS3...@rcul.uni-lj.si>
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess.analysis
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 10:17 AM
Subject: Scandinavian declined

> I like playing Scandinavian, but lately more and more players avoid it
> with a simple:
>

> 1. e4 d5
> 2. e5
>

> What to do after such a move? White is threatening to steer this game
> into rather calm waters, like French defense, which is not what an
> agressive Scandinavian player is looking for.
>
> Any ideas on how to continue after e5?
>
> Damijan
>

Damijan Marolt <EFS3...@rcul.uni-lj.si> wrote in message
news:88rkv4$37m$1...@news.uni-lj.si...

> I like playing Scandinavian, but lately more and more players avoid it
> with a simple:
>

> 1. e4 d5
> 2. e5
>

[Carl Tillotson]

In article <88rkv4$37m$1...@news.uni-lj.si>, Damijan Marolt wrote:

> 1. e4 d5
> 2. e5
>
> What to do after such a move? White is threatening to steer this game
> into rather calm waters, like French defense, which is not what an
> agressive Scandinavian player is looking for.

Don't be afraid of a French set-up and get that Bishop out now to f5 so
when you do go for a French you don't have the classic bad-bishop!

[Nigel Davies]

It's going to be something like a great 3.e5 Caro-Kann from Black's point of
view. a lot of people are turning to 1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 c5 as being more
promising than the standard 3...Bf5. With 2.e5 c5 you will get similar
positions
with an extra tempo and that pawn on e5 looking weak.

--
GM Nigel Davies
(www.chessplanet.com)

Damijan Marolt <EFS3...@rcul.uni-lj.si> wrote in message
news:88rkv4$37m$1...@news.uni-lj.si...
> I like playing Scandinavian, but lately more and more players avoid it
> with a simple:
>

> 1. e4 d5
> 2. e5
>
> What to do after such a move? White is threatening to steer this game
> into rather calm waters, like French defense, which is not what an
> agressive Scandinavian player is looking for.
>

[JJNeet1]

I played the Center Counter for several years, and I believe it to be better
than it's reputation. But I would play my c8 Bishiop to f5 and not g4.
Anyway, I always knew I was in for an easy game when white played 2.e5. Here
are some possibilities:
1.e4 d5 2.e5 Bf4 3.d4 e6 and black has a kind of a French Advance variation,
but with 2-good bishops!
1.e4 d5 2.e5 c5 looks good for black also.He can still get his c8 bishop out
before playing e6.
Jon Neet.