Zilbermints Gambit [Englund]

[RBe7238518]

1 d4 e5 2 de5 Nc6 3 Nf3 Nge7
Does anyone have any info on this Gambit?
Is there anything on the web?
What is the critical line for both sides?
Thanks for any information
Robert Beacon

[Randy Pals]

Robert Beacon <rbe72...@aol.com> wrote:

The most I have seen on this line was in the November-December
1995 Illinois Chess Bulletin. NM Alan Watson wrote a very
fine article on it, which delved into some detail. I'm not
sure there is such a thing as "the critical line", as there
are numerous reasonable ways for White to play. And I really
can't reproduce Alan's article here because 1) it would be
illegal, 2) it wouldn't be nice, either, and I like Alan, and
3) it would take me way too much time.

The best I can recommend is to try to get a back issue from
the ICB. The current editor is Josh Flores (square...@64.com);
contact him and see if they are available.

Randy

[Tobias Lagemann]

Hello,

in the german chess magazine "Kaissiber" (Editor: Stefan
Bücker) there are two articles about the Englund (Issue 5 &
10)

literature:
E.J. Diemer: Das moderne Blackmar Diemer Gambit, Heidelberg
(maybe you can get it by amazon...)

Stefan Bücker: Englund Gambit, Düsseldorf 1988

L.D. Zilbermints: "The Zilbermints Gambit!?" (3 articles in
BDG World (Nr. 61-63), USA 1994

The critical line is:

4.Nc3 Ng6 5.Bg5 Be7 6.Bxe7 Qxe7 7.Nd5 Qd8 (the only!)
and now:
- 8.Qd2 h6 9.Qc3 0-0 10.0-0-0 Re8 11.h4 Ngxe5 12.Ne5 Rxe5
13.f4 Re8 14.Rd3 Kh8 15.g4 +-

- 8... b6 9.0-0-0 Bb7 10.Qc3 0-0 11.h4 Re8 12.h5 Ngxe5
13.Nxe5 Rxe5 14.h6!

Or:
4... h6 5.Bf4 Ng6 6.e3
5.... g5 6.Bg3 Nf5 (better)

but: ...5.h4 Ng5 6.Qd5 Qe7 7.Qe4!

If you are interested in playing the Englund in an EMail
tournament here is the best link:
http://thomasstock.com/TGT/tgt_director.htm

Regards
Tobias

[Harrydylan]

I don't know where you can find published stuff about this, but I can highly
recommend anyone with an interest in this, or 5 minute chess to come to the
Marshall Chess Club (www.nystar.com/marshall), on Friday evenings. We have
a wonderfull 5 minute chess tournament at 7:30 pm. Entry fee is only $10
for non-member's. ($5 dollars for members), all entries, returned in
prize's.

And if you want to test against the Zilbermintz gambit, you can play against
Lev Zilbermintz himself, who is also here with us each week. And if your
Black against him, you can train against the Blackmar-Deibert gambit, 1.d4
d5 2.e4 dxe4 (Fritz5 and most chess programs play ...e6, transposing to the
French here), 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.f3, against Lev.

Hope to see you Friday at the Marshall CC - The best Chess Club in NY!

mrslug - the inkompetent chess software addict.

RBe7238518 <rbe72...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> 1 d4 e5 2 de5 Nc6 3 Nf3 Nge7
> Does anyone have any info on this Gambit?
> Is there anything on the web?
> What is the critical line for both sides?
> Thanks for any information

> Robert Beacon

[Quigley]

What is the difference between the Silver Mints Gambit and the Englund
Gambit? If there is none, don't you think calling a gambit after yourself a
bit egotistical?

>And if you want to test against the Zilbermintz gambit, you can play
against
>Lev Zilbermintz himself, who is also here with us each week.

>RBe7238518 <rbe72...@aol.com> wrote in message

[Mike Thomas]

In article <uqw6lBjq#GA.238@cpmsnbbsa05>, "Quigley"
<D_J_Q...@email.msn.com> wrote: > What is the difference between the

Silver Mints Gambit and the Englund > Gambit? If there is none, don't you

think calling a gambit after yourself a > bit egotistical? > The Zilbermints
Gambit is defined by Black's 3.---Nge7. According to Schiller's "Unorthodox
Chess Openings", the Englund Gambit doesn't technically occur until after
1.d4 e5 2.dxe5 Nc6 3.Nf3 Qe7, although the term has come to encompass all of
the 1.d4 e5 openings in general. I suppose it is like the Muzio Gambit being
a branch of the King's Gambit, or the Marshall Gambit being part of the Ruy
Lopez. Where did you discover that Zilbermints named the gambit after
himself, instead of others naming it after him? Regards, Mike

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[JBDes1]

>What is the difference between the Silver Mints Gambit and the Englund
>Gambit? If there is none, don't you think calling a gambit after yourself a
>bit egotistical?

Well, in this case, no.

It might be better labeled as "Zilbermintz Variation" however, a variation that
could co-exist in the "Englund Gambit".

For example, moving the queen to e7 instead of the Knight is known as the
"Walrus Attack".

The Walrus Attack is: "1.d4 e5 2.dxe5 Nc6 3.Nf3 Qe7"

So it is known as the "Englund Gambit / Walrus Attack"

But it isn't known as the "Walrus Gambit" but "Walrus Attack" so the
Zilbermintz could be variation like "Englund Gambit / Zilbermintz Variation"