French compatible defence against 1.d4 ?
Peter Wolff
I enjoy to play the French opening. Now I am
searching for an analogue defence which I could try against 1.d4.
For example, If you play the Caro Kann against 1.e4, it is rather
logic to play the Slav against 1.d4, due to the similar pawn structure
of the middle game positions..
If you like the Pirc opening against 1.e4 you most probably will enjoy
to play the Kings Indian defence against defence.
So, if you play the French against 1.e4, you might want to play the
.... opening against 1.d4.
Which opening should I consider to play against 1.d4 ?
Any hints are highly appreciated.
Regards
mdamien
then, after 2. e4, I'm back in a French. More frequently, since you're
opponent is a queen's pawn player, he'll play 2. c4 (though not always);
then, I would generally aim for a Nimzo-Indian against Nc3 and a
Bogo-Indian, Queen's Indian, QGD, or Benoni against Nf3. I hadn't quite
decided what I liked best when White avoids the Nimzo. Bogo-Indian is
probably the simplest, possibly transposing to a Nimzo, but you may find
yourself in a drawish game quickly.
Matt
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Peter Wolff
wrote:
>When I was playing the French, I would play 1. ... e6 in response to 1. d4;
>then, after 2. e4, I'm back in a French.
I play this, too.
> More frequently, since you're
>opponent is a queen's pawn player, he'll play 2. c4 (though not always);
>then, I would generally aim for a Nimzo-Indian against Nc3 and a
In these days I play the Lasker-Capablanca system of the Queens gambit
declined. Sine I play the rock-solid variations with 3..Nf6 against
the French, I try to play a rock-solid defence against 1.d4, too.
I think the Lasker-Caplanca system is exactly what I am looking for,
but I am still interested in hearing what other players of French play
against 1.d4, especially if they play 3...Nf6 both against 3.Nd2 and
3.Nc3 in the French opening.
Drieux
> On Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:10:08 -0500, "mdamien" <ma...@galaport.com>
> wrote:
>
> >When I was playing the French, I would play 1. ... e6 in response to 1. d4;
> >then, after 2. e4, I'm back in a French.
>
> I play this, too.
>
> > More frequently, since you're
> >opponent is a queen's pawn player, he'll play 2. c4 (though not always);
> >then, I would generally aim for a Nimzo-Indian against Nc3 and a
>
> In these days I play the Lasker-Capablanca system of the Queens gambit
> declined. Sine I play the rock-solid variations with 3..Nf6 against
> the French,
Really? Doesn't being a peice down in the Advance variation cramp your
results a trifle? {grin} I'm a fan of the French as well, BTW.
>I try to play a rock-solid defence against 1.d4, too.
> I think the Lasker-Caplanca system is exactly what I am looking for,
> but I am still interested in hearing what other players of French play
> against 1.d4, especially if they play 3...Nf6 both against 3.Nd2 and
> 3.Nc3 in the French opening.
I look to my own opening system as White, and play the King's Indian complex
v 1. d4. YMMV, but if you don't want to get into the Nimzo, then you
seem to have already chosen your weapon with the QGD.
Cheers,
Drieux
JimPaul
1.e4 and also against 1.d4 and against a mainline Queens Gambit plays the
Tartokower variation of the QGD.
"Peter Wolff" <stu...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Dan Scoones
wrote:
>Hi there,
>
> I enjoy to play the French opening. Now I am
>searching for an analogue defence which I could try against 1.d4.
>
>For example, If you play the Caro Kann against 1.e4, it is rather
>logic to play the Slav against 1.d4, due to the similar pawn structure
>of the middle game positions..
Of course the widely-held view is that the Slav is the analogue of the
Caro-Kann, but it could equally be argued that the Slav is the
analogue of the French. The point is that if White exchanges in the
centre, a symmetrical pawn structure arises. By the same reasoning,
the Queen's Gambit Declined with ...e6 would be the analogue of the
Caro-Kann.
My suggestion for a practical analogue to the French is the
Nimzo-Indian. This assumes that you are going to adopt the Winawer
(Nimzowitsch) Variation for Black.
mdamien
> My suggestion for a practical analogue to the French is the
> Nimzo-Indian. This assumes that you are going to adopt the Winawer
> (Nimzowitsch) Variation for Black.
Interesting, that this surprised me. I've played both the Winawer and
Nimzo-Indian as primary defenses, yet never considered that the Winawer is
more "Nimzo-like" than the Nf6 lines. Of course it is, since there's the pin
at b4, but the flavor of the two openings is quite different, at least for
me.
Matt
Kirk Sadler
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, JimPaul wrote:
> Look at Nigel Shorts Black repertoire. He typically plays 1...e6 against
> 1.e4 and also against 1.d4 and against a mainline Queens Gambit plays the
> Tartokower variation of the QGD.
>
I agree...if you are a french player you should, IMHO, play 1. d4 e6,
going then into the Nimzo/QID/Benoni or the QGD (your choice) if 2. c4.
Kirk
Avanti
>
> I enjoy to play the French opening. Now I am
> searching for an analogue defence which I could try against 1.d4.
The beauty with the French defence is that you can play it against
absolutely any white opening,
even if after
1d4 e6
2 c4 d5
you will soon find the positions favour black french defence positions.
Jack
Peter Wolff <stu...@aol.com> wrote in message news:<k57gsuk14madpngpt...@4ax.com>...
Andreas Walkenhorst
> Look at Nigel Shorts Black repertoire. He typically plays 1...e6 against
> 1.e4 and also against 1.d4 and against a mainline Queens Gambit plays the
> Tartokower variation of the QGD.
>
The usage of 1.d4 e6 by Short may be inspired by Botwinnik, as the former World
Champion chose that move order too. And he, as well as Short (at least for some
time) used it to turn the game into a Dutch Defense after 2.c4 (or 2.Nf3) f5.
The point of this move order is that several sidelines of the dutch (after 1.d4
f5) are ruled out (2.Nc3, 2.Bg5 and 2.e4).
Andreas
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Kirk Sadler
Incredibly...that is not the French...it is the QGD...which, as far as I
can tell, has very little to do with the French. That's like saying "I
can play an indian defense v. everything, 1. d4 Nf6 or 1. e4 Nf6 or 1. f4
Nf6 or 1. h3 Nf6"
Kirk
JeffC
>
> I enjoy to play the French opening. Now I am
> searching for an analogue defence which I could try against 1.d4.
Frankly, I still usually play e6! You might be surprised how often it turns
into the French.