1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d5!

[Rex Butler]

Could anyone please rattle of a few lines/ideas so I know how to handle
this gambit? Also, what is the most non-drawish line as white against
the normal, dry, boring, and hidiously unenjoyable Petroff defence
lines?
Rex Butler
rbu...@xmission.com

[Somenath Bandyopadhyay]

Play In 3. Bc4..makes things exciting and transposable to other exciting
variations e.g. Guico Piano (sp?), Two Nights Defence ..

I feel only 3.Bc4 brings life to the game..

thanks, som.

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[Greg Robert Magne]

In article <337D14...@xmission.com>,

Rex Butler <rbu...@xmission.com> wrote:
>Could anyone please rattle of a few lines/ideas so I know how to handle
>this gambit? Also, what is the most non-drawish line as white against
>the normal, dry, boring, and hidiously unenjoyable Petroff defence
>lines?
> Rex Butler
> rbu...@xmission.com

I've played the Belgrade Gambit, 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nc3 Nc6 4.d4 exd4
5.Nd5 on several occassions and it often produces wild tactical games. It's
not entirely sound but it does seem like your type of opening based on your
description of the Petroff :). I've had a lot of success with the variation
5.Nd5 Nb4 6.Nxd4 Nxe4 7.Nf5!?. Unfortuately, Petroff players usually won't
play this line.
I've also played another wild variation of the Four Knights Defence
many times as black after 1.e4 Nf6 2.Nc3 (amazing how many people avoid the
Alekhine) e5 3.Nf3 Nc6 4.Bc4?! Nxe4 5.Bxf7+?! which is usually given as =+ or
-+, but some people like to play it as white. I wouldn't recommend it though.
I can't answer your first question since it has now been awhile since
I've played 3.Nxe5.

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Greg Robert Magne

[Paul Rubin]

In article <337D14...@xmission.com>,
Rex Butler <rbu...@xmission.com> wrote:
>Could anyone please rattle of a few lines/ideas so I know how to handle
>this gambit? Also, what is the most non-drawish line as white against
>the normal, dry, boring, and hidiously unenjoyable Petroff defence
>lines?

Cochrane Gambit: 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nxf7!

Judit Polgar has won a lot of games with this, I think.
It might not be so good objectively, but at least it's not boring...

[Tom Asquith]

In article <phrEAA...@netcom.com>, p...@netcom.com says...

Personally, I've never worried too much playing the Black-side
of the Cochrane. More often than not, it's the young
flashy player who prefers this opening. And when they get
into the murk surrounding the c5!? counter, they typically
get themselves into trouble (the lines are terrible to
memorise).

Incidentally, Judit's record is about 45% with the
Cochrane (which explains why she shifted to the main
lines of the Petroff).
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Tom Asquith
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
University of Alberta

[Tom Asquith]

In article <337D14...@xmission.com>, rbu...@xmission.com says...

>Could anyone please rattle of a few lines/ideas so I know how to handle
>this gambit? Also, what is the most non-drawish line as white against
>the normal, dry, boring, and hidiously unenjoyable Petroff defence
>lines?

Well you could try the old idea of 3. d4! which many people seem
to forget at the lower levels (it can get wonderfully nasty...if
you are a tactical player). But back to your line...

4. d4 would flip back to more regular lines, i.e.
4. ... Nxe4 5. Bd3 etc.
Taking PxP would be wrong because 5. Bc4 would then be strong.

After this move, you could expect positions like the typical
Petroff (by transposition), i.e.:

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. d4 Nxe4 4. Bd3 d5 5. Nxe5 Bd6
6. o-o o-o and now 7. c4!

And most of these lines usually result in +/= or +/-. Watch
for possible follow-ups 7. ... c6 or Nc6 or Bxe5.

One last point: remember that the Petroff is the standard
symmetrical, positional game. As White, it would be up to
you to show the initiative...if you want to win.

[MSBurkett]

Apparently black's point is transpose into the Urusov Gambit with colors
reversed by 4...Qxd5 5.Nf3 Bg4 6.Be2 Nc6. When white has this position
his B is on c4 and is frequently driven to d3 or b5. Black intends to move
his B to b4 or d6 without the intermediate Bc5, a clever idea. White can
thwart this plan by 5.d4 Bg4 6.f3 or 5...Nc6 6.Nxc6 or 5... Bd6 6.Qf3
or 5...Nf6 6.Bf4 Be7 7.Nc3, etc.

All in all, however, 3.d4 offers more winning chances. For example, if
3...exd4 4.Bc4!, and it is white who has this powerful gambit. More
common is 3...Nxe4 4.Bd3 d5 5.Nxe5. Whole books have been written
on this position, but most take the black point of view and so lack
objectivity. White probably has somewhat the better of it, but the better
opening and endgame student will be the usual winner.

I hope this helps-
MaxB