How to come alive with this 6-5?
Kevin Podsiadlik
13 black cards but close):
KQ10965
8
6
AQ952
With the opponents silent the auction went:
Me Pard
1S 2H
3C 4C
?
Now what? 4D? 4H? 4S? 4NT (1430)? 5C? 6C? Or is this a lesson on why
I'm supposed to rebid 2S with this hand?
Andrew
I would bid 4D (RKC). Your best bet for a good score at this point is
to bid a successful club slam.
Andrew
paul
3C is game-forcing, which your hand is not worth opposite a non-GF 2H.
Even when playing 2/1 GF, I (and Mike Lawrence) find it useful to
reserve 3C/3D for stronger hands. So, I'd rebid 2S in any style I care
to play. If partner rebids 3C, you can start thinking slam.
Derek Broughton
> On Nov 9, 10:32 am, Kevin Podsiadlik <kpodsiad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Last round of a Swiss last night I got dealt this beauty (not my usual
>> 13 black cards but close):
>>
>> KQ10965
>> 8
>> 6
>> AQ952
>>
>> With the opponents silent the auction went:
>>
>> Me Pard
>> 1S 2H
>> 3C 4C
>> ?
>>
>> Now what? 4D? 4H? 4S? 4NT (1430)? 5C? 6C? Or is this a lesson on why
>> I'm supposed to rebid 2S with this hand?
>
> 3C is game-forcing, which your hand is not worth opposite a non-GF 2H.
!!! A four-loser hand opposite 11+ pts? You bet it's worth a game force.
I think it's not uncommon to treat 3C as merely forcing to at least 3H.
Stopping in 4C is an option.
--
derek
Derek Broughton
What's your system? If you're playing 2/1, or in any case his 2H was game
forcing, then you can rebid 2S. In S/A, you'd be fully expecting to play in
2S if you rebid 2S.
You have four losers, and partner needs to cover at least two of the aces
for slam. 4D if it's kickback, 4N otherwise. After 4D it should be easy.
If it's 4N, and partner bids 5C you're almost certainly going down, but not
alone. Anything else should be pretty simple
--
derek
Mark Brader
> Last round of a Swiss last night I got dealt this beauty (not my usual
> 13 black cards but close):
>
> KQ10965
> 8
> 6
> AQ952
>
> With the opponents silent the auction went:
>
> Me Pard
> 1S 2H
> 3C 4C
> ?
>
> Now what? 4D? 4H? 4S? 4NT (1430)? 5C? 6C?
I want an ace-asking bid that will allow us to stop at 5C if we have
at most two aces between us but bid 6C if we have three; but that's
impossible if 4NT is the ace-asking bid. So I bid 4S to show extra
length and hope *partner* can see enough assets to try for slam -- or
few enough assets to stop in 4S or 5C.
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My text in this article is in the public domain.
paul
Not sure what system the poster is playing; assuming a 1980's or later
American style (e.g., SAYC), 2H promises a rebid or is forcing to 2NT,
and 3C promises extras, so 3C is effectively forcing to 3NT and 2S
can't be passed. In Old Goren, of course, 2S was non-forcing.
castigamatti
First of all Mike Lawrence advises to rebid 3C only when holding five
clubs, otherwise he advises a 2S or 2NT rebid. So basically with a 3C
rebid you are showing at least 5521. Now if 4C is not minorwood, even
though it makes some sense, then 4S, after partner's 4C raise,
completes the picture, otherwise one would think you would have bid 5C
if 5521 and no controls in H and D.
Cheers
B.R.
OldPalooka
Maybe not worth a GF facing an ancient Acol 2H. But facing anything
close to a modern invitational 2H this 17+ 4C's count simply cannot
gamble playing a part score except to take a hard swing against
Meckwell. Bidding 2S and then thinking slam if partner bids 3C is trap
bidding, not partnership bidding.
-- Bill Shutts
Charles Brenner
4S. Not perfect -- partner might not rely on me to have real clubs,
thinking 3C could have been a maneuver on a tripleton to show strength
with spades too weak for jumping to 3S. But except for the tripleton
club that's close enough to what I have.
Charles
Kevin Podsiadlik
henry...@yahoo.com
I would not have bid 3c over 2h, but your choice appears to have
worked out well. I prefer the style where 3c shows extra high card
values, not extra distributional values, so I would have rebid 2s.
Nonetheless, partner's raise to 4c, taking you past 3nt when he had a
'convenient' 3h 4sf bid available, must show slam interest in clubs.
I have no good way to ask for key cards, so i will rebid 4s and leave
the next move up to partner.
Andy suggests 4d as a RKC ask, and if we had that agreement that bid
would be ideal. That's not a standard agreement as far as I am aware
but it works great on this hand.
Henrysun909
paul
Many, perhaps most 2/1 bidders bid shape without regard to strength;
but this seems to make it very difficult to tell whether we are
hunting for the right game or exploring for slam. So I would rebid 2S.
If partner rebids 3C, then my 4C raise showing a shapely hand with
minimum values looks perfect.
On your sequence, 4NT will all too often fetch a 5H reply; you may or
may not survive with a 5S bailout. Cuebidding 4D is too ambiguous for
my taste, but that's probably best if partner will take it as "Last
Train." Still, how does he know you're all shape?