Whose fault for missing game?

Mark

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Feb 10, 2021, 5:06:19 AM2/10/21

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2 passes, and RHO opens 1H

AQ985
Q
QT984
A4

P bids 3S

Pass Pass 1H 1S
Pass 3S Pass ?

Do you bid 4S?

CHO is a self declared expert so you might expect a UCB or similar.

TIA
M.

Kenny McCormack

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Feb 10, 2021, 12:17:24 PM2/10/21

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In article <49f6de10-1bf2-4775...@googlegroups.com>,
Mark <mark.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
...

>CHO is a self declared expert so you might expect a UCB or similar.

UCB?

UC Berkeley?

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- Rick C Hodgin -

Mark

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Feb 10, 2021, 12:48:05 PM2/10/21

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On Wednesday, 10 February 2021 at 17:17:24 UTC, Kenny McCormack wrote:

> ...
> >CHO is a self declared expert so you might expect a UCB or similar.
> UCB?
>
> UC Berkeley?
>
> --
> Christianity is not a religion.
>
> - Rick C Hodgin -

UCB = Unassuming Cue Bid, e.g. bidding 3H in this sequence is constructive - a sound raise to 3S.
3S would be preemptive

John Hall

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Feb 10, 2021, 1:23:28 PM2/10/21

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In message <49f6de10-1bf2-4775...@googlegroups.com>,
Mark <mark.p...@gmail.com> writes

Y6ou don't tell us the vulnerability or whether it's pairs or teams. If
we're NV, then partner won't have much, and I'd pass. If we're
vulnerable, then I think at teams I'd try 4S, but I'm not sure at pairs.
My good intermediates in diamonds are what make trying for game
tempting.
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John Hall "Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always
pays off now." Anon

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Feb 10, 2021, 4:17:10 PM2/10/21

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You already judged that your hand was too strong for 2H.

What has happened to change your mind?

I'm not so sure of that valuation, but having made it you have to stay the course.

Carl

Mark

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Feb 11, 2021, 4:13:41 AM2/11/21

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The decision to bid 4S depends on the treatment of the 3S bid. With all my regular partners, this is preemptive, maybe something like (Kxxx,xx,xxx,xxxx or Kxx,x,xxxx,xxxxx). In which case, pass is correct. With an advanced/expert partner would you expect a bit more of a subtle bid, e.g. 2H/3H as a cuebid.
We were red and responder had
Kxxx
xxxx
A
Kxxx

For me, this is a clear 3H bid.

Co Wiersma

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Feb 11, 2021, 5:43:34 AM2/11/21

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Op 11-2-2021 om 10:13 schreef Mark:

Apparent your partner does not play cuebids like that. So 3H was a limit
raise. At matchpoint, I think a limit raise with that hand is rather
conservative but not crazy.

Co Wiersma

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Feb 11, 2021, 5:54:38 AM2/11/21

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> bidding 3H in this sequence is constructive - a sound raise to 3S.
> 3S would be preemptive

Just curious - RHO is a 3rd-seat opener and LHO remained silent and N-S has the boss suit, so why would a preempt be needed?

Mark

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Feb 11, 2021, 9:04:00 AM2/11/21

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That is a good point and the preempt has its pros/cons
We were both red at IMPS so 3S puts a lot of pressure on the RHO with a 3 suited 16 count.
However 3S can also highlight a spade shortage and push them into game.

Jean Pierre Fontenille

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Feb 16, 2021, 8:20:03 AM2/16/21

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for me 1S is limit to ask part "there exist somme possible barrage in spade"
With ur cards i would have doubled.