2-Way, 3-Way Game Try?

[Tom]

Partner and I have been playing 2-Way game try, where after 1M - 2M

- new suit by 1M bidder shows shortness and
- next suit (2S/2N) asks what suit P would accept a game try in.

We are wondering if there is an approach that keeps this structure and
allows 1M bidder to specifically ask P for shortness?

Or, ir not, what about if 2N

(a) asks for P to show either shortness or a cluster of honours (no
differentiation), or

(b) asks just for shortness?

What would do you think is the most useful approach?

Tom

[Lorne]

I have played what you describe plus 1S-3C/3D/3H or 1H-2N/3C/3D to be an
invitational splinter (1H-2N=spade splinter). That way responder or
opener can show shortage which covers most situations.

[Nick France]

Of course that begs the question as to what is your strong raise and
the follow ups.

Nick France

[Lorne]

2N is a raise to 3+ in the major, then
-3C = would pass a raise to 3 with 3D last train try
-3D/H/S = shortage (trumps = short clubs)
-4C/D/H = second suit
-4M = aould not pass a raise to 3 but not much extra
-3N = all other balanced hands

Immediate double Jumps = 7 loser splinters
Immediate 3N = 6 loser splinter (ask with 3C)