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Dave Flower

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Jul 4, 2008, 4:27:55 AM7/4/08
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The only place that I have found where I can buy a copy of the new
laws is the EBU, who charge £10 (n0 discounts) plus an unspecified
amount for postage and packing).

Does anyone know of a cheaper source ?

Dave Flower

Rob Morris

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Jul 4, 2008, 6:02:49 AM7/4/08
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I don't, but I know the postage and packing costs a princely one pound 10p.

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Sid

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Jul 4, 2008, 7:22:27 AM7/4/08
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On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 01:27:55 -0700 (PDT), Dave Flower
<DavJF...@aol.com> wrote:

: The only place that I have found where I can buy a copy of the new


: laws is the EBU, who charge £10 (n0 discounts) plus an unspecified
: amount for postage and packing).
:
: Does anyone know of a cheaper source ?


The Bridge Shop in Australia also sells it (I have it), but I'd wait
if I were you. There were some changes that have to be incorporated.

http://www.bridgeshop.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=1_214&products_id=229

Sid

Eric Leong

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Jul 4, 2008, 3:20:35 PM7/4/08
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You could down load "The Laws of Contract Bridge - International Code"
from the ACBL website for free.
Are the laws different in England?

Eric Leong

The Bridge Shop

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Jul 5, 2008, 1:19:00 AM7/5/08
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Actually the softcover stocks I now have incorporate the revisions made by
the WBF in March.

Harcover have an insert describing changes to Law 27.

drop me a line at bridge at bridgeshop.com.au or use the link mentioned by
Sid, below.

Nick
The Bridge Shop


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Jul 7, 2008, 1:29:06 PM7/7/08
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Yes, or at least the regulating authority options are. As indeed is
the copyright.
Alternatively, you can download them as a word file from the
ecatsbridge website

David Stevenson

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Jul 10, 2008, 9:23:37 AM7/10/08
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Dave Flower wrote

No. The EBU has decided only to print hardbacks because of the
payment to the Portland club for copyright: softbacks would not appear
to be a sensible price if they had printed them. Since the EBU is the
producer/printer/distributor of Law books in England you should not be
able ot find a cheaper source in England.

Of course, Welsh Law books are free.

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David Stevenson

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Jul 10, 2008, 9:25:39 AM7/10/08
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Eric Leong wrote

>On Jul 4, 1:27 am, Dave Flower <DavJFlo...@aol.com> wrote:
>> The only place that I have found where I can buy a copy of the new
>> laws is the EBU, who charge Ł10 (n0 discounts) plus an unspecified

>> amount for postage and packing).
>>
>> Does anyone know of a cheaper source ?
>>
>> Dave Flower
>
>You could down load "The Laws of Contract Bridge - International Code"
>from the ACBL website for free.
>Are the laws different in England?

No - and even if they were, they Laws are downloadable from the EBU
site and Anna Gudge's site.

The only difference between the EBU law book and the ACBL Law book is
in the Appendices.

David Stevenson

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Jul 10, 2008, 9:26:32 AM7/10/08
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wrote

>On 4 Jul, 20:20, Eric Leong <ewleong...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jul 4, 1:27 am, Dave Flower <DavJFlo...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> > The only place that I have found where I can buy a copy of the new
>> > laws is the EBU, who charge £10 (n0 discounts) plus an unspecified
>> > amount for postage and packing).
>>
>> > Does anyone know of a cheaper source ?
>>
>> > Dave Flower
>>
>> You could down load "The Laws of Contract Bridge - International Code"
>> from the ACBL website for free.
>> Are the laws different in England?
>>
>> Eric Leong
>
>Yes, or at least the regulating authority options are.

Excuse me?

The RA options are the same everywhere in the world.

Steve Foster

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Jul 10, 2008, 7:19:36 PM7/10/08
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David Stevenson wrote:

> wrote
> >On 4 Jul, 20:20, Eric Leong <ewleong...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>On Jul 4, 1:27 am, Dave Flower <DavJFlo...@aol.com> wrote:
> > >
> >>> The only place that I have found where I can buy a copy of the new

> >>> laws is the EBU, who charge Ł10 (n0 discounts) plus an unspecified


> >>> amount for postage and packing).
> > >
> >>> Does anyone know of a cheaper source ?
> > >
> >>> Dave Flower
> > >
> > > You could down load "The Laws of Contract Bridge - International
> > > Code" from the ACBL website for free.
> > > Are the laws different in England?
> > >
> > > Eric Leong
> >
> > Yes, or at least the regulating authority options are.
>
> Excuse me?
>
> The RA options are the same everywhere in the world.

I read Frances' comment as meaning that the EBU has chosen differently
than the ACBL from the available RA options, rather than meaning that
the options available were different.

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Steve Foster

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Jul 10, 2008, 7:33:02 PM7/10/08
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David Stevenson wrote:

> Eric Leong wrote
> >On Jul 4, 1:27 am, Dave Flower <DavJFlo...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > The only place that I have found where I can buy a copy of the new
> > > laws is the EBU, who charge Ł10 (n0 discounts) plus an unspecified
> > > amount for postage and packing).
> > >
> > > Does anyone know of a cheaper source ?
> > >
> > > Dave Flower
> >
> > You could down load "The Laws of Contract Bridge - International
> > Code" from the ACBL website for free.
> > Are the laws different in England?
>
> No - and even if they were, they Laws are downloadable from the EBU
> site and Anna Gudge's site.

Could you give an EBU URL? I can only find the 1997 laws and updates
there (looking under both Laws & Ethics > Publications and Downloads >
Laws & Ethics Publications [which are different pages!]). I can't find
a 2007 laws download.

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Steve Foster

David Stevenson

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Jul 10, 2008, 9:22:42 PM7/10/08
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Steve Foster wrote

Sorry: I just assumed it. Oh well, it will have to be Anna's site
then. Mind you, I am surprised.

David Stevenson

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Jul 10, 2008, 9:21:13 PM7/10/08
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Steve Foster wrote

But that makes no sense whatever. This is a thread about a person in
England who wants a cheap copy of the Laws: another person suggests that
downloading an ACBL copy might be an idea - but then asks whether the
Laws will be the same, obviously worried about whether this will do in
England. And the answer is that they are, including the RA options.

Steve Foster

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Jul 11, 2008, 1:43:16 PM7/11/08
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David Stevenson wrote:

If the EBU has made the same RA choices (from those available) as the
ACBL, then I agree with you that Frances post make no sense - perhaps
Frances thinks/understands (possibly mistakenly) differently.

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Steve Foster

Steve Foster

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Jul 11, 2008, 1:44:40 PM7/11/08
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David Stevenson wrote:

> Steve Foster wrote
> >

> > Could you give an EBU URL? I can only find the 1997 laws and updates
> >there (looking under both Laws & Ethics > Publications and Downloads
> > Laws & Ethics Publications [which are different pages!]). I can't
> > find a 2007 laws download.
>
> Sorry: I just assumed it. Oh well, it will have to be Anna's site
> then. Mind you, I am surprised.

So was I (I'd looked before [and re-checked just before this previous
post], when someone else raised a question about the 2007 laws and I
wanted to d/l a copy).

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Steve Foster

David Stevenson

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Jul 11, 2008, 1:53:11 PM7/11/08
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But what sense does it make to someone who wants to get a Law book?
The RA choices are not shown in the Law book, just what can be chosen.

Dave Flower

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Jul 12, 2008, 4:36:59 AM7/12/08
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On Jul 11, 6:53�pm, David Stevenson <brid...@nospam.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
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Some posters have referred to changes - does the version the EBU are
selling incorporate any relevant changes ?

Dave Flower

Steve Foster

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Jul 12, 2008, 6:52:16 AM7/12/08
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David Stevenson wrote:

> Steve Foster wrote


> > If the EBU has made the same RA choices (from those available) as
> > the ACBL, then I agree with you that Frances post make no sense -
> > perhaps Frances thinks/understands (possibly mistakenly)
> > differently.
>
> But what sense does it make to someone who wants to get a Law book?
> The RA choices are not shown in the Law book, just what can be chosen.

Ah, I see what you mean.

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Steve Foster

David Stevenson

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Jul 12, 2008, 10:02:32 AM7/12/08
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Dave Flower wrote
>On Jul 11, 6:530 >wrote:

>> Steve Foster wrote
>>
>> >David Stevenson wrote:
>> >> But that makes no sense whatever. 0 >> >> England who wants a cheap copy of the Laws: another person suggests

>> >> that downloading an ACBL copy might be an idea - but then asks
>> >> whether the Laws will be the same, obviously worried about whether
>> >> this will do in England. 0 >> >> the RA options.

>>
>> >If the EBU has made the same RA choices (from those available) as the
>> >ACBL, then I agree with you that Frances post make no sense - perhaps
>> >Frances thinks/understands (possibly mistakenly) differently.
>>
>> 0 >> The RA choices are not shown in the Law book, just what can be chosen.
>>
>> --
>> David Stevenson 0 >> Liverpool, England, UK 0 >> <webjak...@googlemail.com> 0 >> 0 >

>Some posters have referred to changes - does the version the EBU are
>selling incorporate any relevant changes ?

I have no idea to what changes you refer, but the EBU version is
official and correct. Why would they sell an incorrect version?

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Steve Willner

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Aug 13, 2008, 10:24:50 PM8/13/08
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On Jul 11, 1:53 pm, David Stevenson <brid...@nospam.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

> But what sense does it make to someone who wants to get a Law book?
> The RA choices are not shown in the Law book, just what can be chosen.

Past ACBL lawbooks have included the ACBL's elections, but that's only
a page or two at the end that one could ignore. I still have seen
nothing about ACBL lawbooks being published, and time is running short.

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