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Sid Ismail

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May 23, 2011, 5:45:23 PM5/23/11
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David Stevenson recently asked about fonts for bridge suits in DOC.

Found this today:
http://www.pagat.com/com/cardsttf.html

Enjoy!

Sid

Carl

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May 23, 2011, 9:41:04 PM5/23/11
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If you install and use this font, can other people on other computers
read your files without having this font, or must you somehow embed or
send them the font file along with the DOC file?

Fred.

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May 23, 2011, 10:13:49 PM5/23/11
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On May 23, 5:45 pm, Sid Ismail <el...@elsid.co.za> wrote:

Just an FYI. The standard Word symbol set includes suit symbols. Try
{Insert} {Symbol}. They may not be as nice, but recipients are likely
to have the font.

Fred.

Bertel Lund Hansen

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May 24, 2011, 5:16:50 AM5/24/11
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Fred. skrev:

> Just an FYI. The standard Word symbol set includes suit symbols. Try
> {Insert} {Symbol}. They may not be as nice, but recipients are likely
> to have the font.

I have made a homepage that displays the four card symbols:

http://bridge.lundhansen.dk/?side=cardsymbols

I see to my horror that Opera (11) no longer displays them all
correctly. Some of the previous versions did. But Firefox
displays them all.

Some of these fonts are so common that one may expect every
system to have them.

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http://bridge.lundhansen.dk/

Lorne

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May 24, 2011, 6:38:34 AM5/24/11
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"Sid Ismail" wrote in message
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David Stevenson recently asked about fonts for bridge suits in DOC.

***************

Be aware that unless you convert your document to pdf before distributing it
other users will not see the correct symbols unless they also install this
font.

It is generally a bad idea to create documents using non-standard fonts
unless you distribute them with the font information embedded (which is why
pdf format was created). The earlier thread contains instructions on how to
create keyboard shortcuts that insert correctly coloured suit symbols.

David Stevenson

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May 24, 2011, 7:56:56 AM5/24/11
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Lorne wrote

... which I did very successfully: my Word documents now have orange
diamonds and red hearts which use standard suit symbols, and I use
CTRL-1 to 4 for suit symbols. I must include a grey club! Because
these are standard symbols other people can read them with no embedding.

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Jürgen R.

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May 24, 2011, 9:32:53 AM5/24/11
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"Carl" <Ca...@CarlRitner.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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Yes, embedding fonts is possible in all Word versions
beginning with 2000. Look at the save options.

Bertel Lund Hansen

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May 24, 2011, 9:41:53 AM5/24/11
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Jürgen R. skrev:

> Yes, embedding fonts is possible in all Word versions
> beginning with 2000. Look at the save options.

Not everyone will allow new fonts to be installed on his system.
And an increasing number of people are using OpenOffice to handle
doc-files.

HoneyMonster

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May 24, 2011, 10:32:30 AM5/24/11
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On Tue, 24 May 2011 15:41:53 +0200, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:

> Jürgen R. skrev:
>
>> Yes, embedding fonts is possible in all Word versions beginning with
>> 2000. Look at the save options.
>
> Not everyone will allow new fonts to be installed on his system. And an
> increasing number of people are using OpenOffice to handle doc-files.

Agreed. I fall into both sets mentioned above (well LibreOffice, anyway).

Much more sensible to use the suit symbols already there in the standard
fonts.

Steve Foster

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May 24, 2011, 1:39:16 PM5/24/11
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Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:

> I have made a homepage that displays the four card symbols:
>
> http://bridge.lundhansen.dk/?side=cardsymbols
>
> I see to my horror that Opera (11) no longer displays them all
> correctly. Some of the previous versions did. But Firefox
> displays them all.

They all look fine in Opera 11.10 on my Windows 7 box.

Though they're not all present in Opera 9.64 on XP (the Courier, Tahoma
and Verdana ones are broken).

Of course, the typeface should be immaterial when you've used the HTML
entity references properly (as on your page).

What I frequently see instead is use of the Windows "Symbol" font
characters 0xA7, 0xA8, 0xA9 and 0xAA, which of course don't render as
suit symbols in any other character set (where they're generally
defined as the Section, Diaresis, Copyright and Feminine Ordinal
symbols).

Of course, the HTML entity references are not suitable for non-HTML
documents.

But even the unicode definitions (0x2660 through 0x2667 [all 4 suits in
both solid and outline forms]) are not always present in any given
typeface.

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Bertel Lund Hansen

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May 24, 2011, 3:33:49 PM5/24/11
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Steve Foster skrev:

> They all look fine in Opera 11.10 on my Windows 7 box.

> Though they're not all present in Opera 9.64 on XP (the Courier, Tahoma
> and Verdana ones are broken).

Okay. I am running XP on my main computer.

Jürgen R.

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May 24, 2011, 11:55:49 PM5/24/11
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"Bertel Lund Hansen" <splittemi...@lundhansen.dk> schrieb im
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> Jürgen R. skrev:
>
>> Yes, embedding fonts is possible in all Word versions
>> beginning with 2000. Look at the save options.
>
> Not everyone will allow new fonts to be installed on his system.
> And an increasing number of people are using OpenOffice to handle
> doc-files.

"Installing" the embedded fonts can't be the routine behavior since
the embedded fonts are, in general, not even complete. However, I
haven't tried it and I don't think using anything but standard
fonts in documents that are meant for distribution is wise.

If you use anything but MS Word for the proprietary MS .doc format,
which isn't even upward compatible within MS product versions,
you are asking for unnecessary trouble.

Bertel Lund Hansen

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May 25, 2011, 1:45:04 AM5/25/11
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Jürgen R. skrev:

> If you use anything but MS Word for the proprietary MS .doc format,
> which isn't even upward compatible within MS product versions,
> you are asking for unnecessary trouble.

No, I'm not. People who rely on my using Microsoft Programs, are.

Jürgen R.

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May 25, 2011, 4:48:34 AM5/25/11
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"Bertel Lund Hansen" <splittemi...@lundhansen.dk> schrieb im

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> Jürgen R. skrev:
>
>> If you use anything but MS Word for the proprietary MS .doc format,
>> which isn't even upward compatible within MS product versions,
>> you are asking for unnecessary trouble.
>
> No, I'm not. People who rely on my using Microsoft Programs, are.

So when suit symbols are missing in your documents it's
the reader's fault. - That certainly solves the problem.

Bertel Lund Hansen

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May 25, 2011, 8:48:35 AM5/25/11
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Jürgen R. skrev:

>> No, I'm not. People who rely on my using Microsoft Programs, are.

> So when suit symbols are missing in your documents it's
> the reader's fault.

They are not missing in documents that I produce. Programs that
cannot handle the format that I have chosen (because they are not
supposed to), may not show them correctly; e.g. viewing a
doc-file with EditpadLite.

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