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Double Dummy Problem ("Pot Boiler")

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Donal Lyons

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Sep 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/4/96
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AQ7
AKQJ
QJT987
-
KJT86 95432
5432 -
- 65432
KQJT 432

-
T9876
AK
A98765


South is in 7H and the CK is lead. This appears in the current edition of
"Bridge" and I can't see how to cope with the H & D blockages. Can anyone
improve on quietly going one down?

--
Donal Lyons, Phone (1000-1700 GMT) +353 1 608 1919
Department of Statistics, Phone Messages +353 1 608 1767
Trinity College, Dublin 2, FAX on request
Ireland.

Matthew L. Ginsberg

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Sep 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/4/96
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In article <dlyons-0409...@mts018.stats.tcd.ie>,

Donal Lyons <dly...@stats.tcd.ie> wrote:
>
> AQ7
> AKQJ
> QJT987
> -
>KJT86 95432
>5432 -
>- 65432
>KQJT 432
>
> -
> T9876
> AK
> A98765
>
>
>South is in 7H and the CK is lead. This appears in the current edition of
>"Bridge" and I can't see how to cope with the H & D blockages. Can anyone
>improve on quietly going one down?

GIB can. He reports after 1/8 sec (5376 nodes) that South can indeed
take 13 tricks after the CK lead.

Matt Ginsberg : )


Danil Suits

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Sep 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/4/96
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Matthew L. Ginsberg <gins...@dt.cirl.uoregon.edu> wrote in article
<50k6uo$4...@pith.uoregon.edu>...
> Donal Lyons <dly...@stats.tcd.ie> wrote:

> >South is in 7H and the CK is lead. This appears in the current edition
of
> >"Bridge" and I can't see how to cope with the H & D blockages. Can
anyone
> >improve on quietly going one down?


> GIB can. He reports after 1/8 sec (5376 nodes) that South can indeed
> take 13 tricks after the CK lead.

Great - GIB spins through 5K nodes then announces "Yup, it's trivial".
Too much like too many of my professors.

Danil
ps - didn't this problem get posted just a couple weeks ago? Is it
an epidemic?


Stefanie Rohan

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Sep 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/4/96
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dly...@stats.tcd.ie (Donal Lyons) wrote:
>
> AQ7
> AKQJ
> QJT987
> -
>KJT86 95432
>5432 -
>- 65432
>KQJT 432
>
> -
> T9876
> AK
> A98765
>
>
>South is in 7H and the CK is lead. This appears in the current edition of
>"Bridge" and I can't see how to cope with the H & D blockages. Can anyone
>improve on quietly going one down?
>
I think we had this problem recently.

Win the CA, pitching a diamond from dummy. Heart to the board, ruff a
spade. Heart to the board, ruff a spade. Last heart to the board. Pull
the last trump and cash the SA, pitching diamonds from hand. Now the dummy
is all good diamonds.

Cheers,

Stefanie Rohan


Dan Hirschberg

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Sep 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/4/96
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In <50k6uo$4...@pith.uoregon.edu> gins...@dt.cirl.uoregon.edu (Matthew L. Ginsb
erg) writes:

>In article <dlyons-0409...@mts018.stats.tcd.ie>,
>Donal Lyons <dly...@stats.tcd.ie> wrote:

AQ7
AKQJ
QJT987
-
KJT86 95432
5432 -
- 65432
KQJT 432

-
T9876
AK
A98765


>>South is in 7H and the CK is lead. This appears in the current edition of
>>"Bridge" and I can't see how to cope with the H & D blockages. Can anyone
>>improve on quietly going one down?

>GIB can. He reports after 1/8 sec (5376 nodes) that South can indeed


>take 13 tricks after the CK lead.

> Matt Ginsberg : )

My double-dummy bridge evaluator took .27 seconds to expand 8404 nodes
to produce the playing tree. It shows that
South wins opening lead with AC, pitching small D from dummy
goes to dummy with trump
cashes AS, pitching AD
ruffs QS
returns to dummy with trump
ruffs 7S
goes to dummy with declarer's last trump
cashes dummy's last trump, pitching KD
dummy is high

Dan Hirschberg

Ray Miller

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Sep 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/4/96
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In article <50k6uo$4...@pith.uoregon.edu> gins...@dt.cirl.uoregon.edu (Matthew L. Ginsberg) writes:
>From: gins...@dt.cirl.uoregon.edu (Matthew L. Ginsberg)
>Subject: Re: Double Dummy Problem ("Pot Boiler")
>Date: 4 Sep 1996 15:24:08 GMT

>In article <dlyons-0409...@mts018.stats.tcd.ie>,
>Donal Lyons <dly...@stats.tcd.ie> wrote:
>>
>> AQ7
>> AKQJ
>> QJT987
>> -
>>KJT86 95432
>>5432 -
>>- 65432
>>KQJT 432
>>
>> -
>> T9876
>> AK
>> A98765
>>
>>
>>South is in 7H and the CK is lead. This appears in the current edition of
>>"Bridge" and I can't see how to cope with the H & D blockages. Can anyone
>>improve on quietly going one down?

>GIB can. He reports after 1/8 sec (5376 nodes) that South can indeed
>take 13 tricks after the CK lead.

> Matt Ginsberg : )

Maybe GIB has seen this problem as many times as the rest of us.)

Ray

Doug Smyth

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Sep 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/4/96
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In article <dlyons-0409...@mts018.stats.tcd.ie>, dly...@stats.tcd.ie (Donal Lyons) wrote:
>
> AQ7
> AKQJ
> QJT987
> -
>KJT86 95432
>5432 -
>- 65432
>KQJT 432
>
> -
> T9876
> AK
> A98765
>
>
>South is in 7H and the CK is lead. This appears in the current edition of
>"Bridge" and I can't see how to cope with the H & D blockages. Can anyone
>improve on quietly going one down?
>
>--
>Donal Lyons, Phone (1000-1700 GMT) +353 1 608 1919
>Department of Statistics, Phone Messages +353 1 608 1767
>Trinity College, Dublin 2, FAX on request
>Ireland.

Win in hand having thrown a diamond. Cross in hearts, ruff a spade, cross in
hearts, ruff a spade, cross in hearts, draw the last trump and cash the Ace of
spades throwing the AK of diamonds.

Doug Smyth

Paul Barden

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Sep 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/6/96
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In article <01bb9a81$7b681ce0$9f2a...@208.193.42.66.aimtech.com>, Danil
Suits <da...@aimtech.com> writes

>
>
>Matthew L. Ginsberg <gins...@dt.cirl.uoregon.edu> wrote in article
><50k6uo$4...@pith.uoregon.edu>...
>> Donal Lyons <dly...@stats.tcd.ie> wrote:
>
>> >South is in 7H and the CK is lead. This appears in the current edition
>of
>> >"Bridge" and I can't see how to cope with the H & D blockages. Can
>anyone
>> >improve on quietly going one down?
>
>
>> GIB can. He reports after 1/8 sec (5376 nodes) that South can indeed
>> take 13 tricks after the CK lead.
>
>Great - GIB spins through 5K nodes then announces "Yup, it's trivial".
>Too much like too many of my professors.
>
>Danil
>ps - didn't this problem get posted just a couple weeks ago? Is it
>an epidemic?
>

This is the third time this problem has appeared on rgb. So it must be
a good one.
--
Paul Barden

bee...@globalnet.co.uk

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Sep 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/17/96
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Does this mean you want someone to tell you how to make 7H on KC lead?


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