nrford100 wrote:
> I should have specified Standard American.
>
> 1D normally shows 4, but it could show 3 if 4=4=3=2.
> Is opening this 1D any vaguer than 1C? For example,
> almost everyone in our club plays Inverted Minors,
> but don't you lose the chance to make a weak 1C-3C
> raise with 5 clubs if opener can have just 2?
If 4=4=3=2 is the only 3-card diamond holding you could have, then "1D
shows 4" is probably accurate enough to depend on it for this slam.
(Pairs playing 5 card majors tend to have different styles for handling,
e.g., 3=4=3=3 hands; if you always open these 1C then the 1D opening
becomes a lot more precise.)
> According to experts I've read (such as Larry Cohen:)
> "A Splinter shows enough for game, but not enough for
> slam." That would make North's hand too strong for 3S.
> I would be concerned about partner's jumping to 5D if
> he thinks I'm limited to 15.
I think that experts nowadays frequently have two different sequences to
splinter over a major, because one turned out to not be enough to
clarify the strength. When the bidding starts 1H, 4D, then you don't
have a whole lot of bidding space available to clarify what the splinter
was asaking for.
Splintering over a minor is a little different because there's more
bidding space available.
I also think that you sometimes have to relax your standards somewhat in
competitive auctions; on a hand where you have shortness and the
opponents are bidding it, you can expect some scarily high pre-empt very
soon. So it's vital to be able to tell partner what your hand is like in
only one bid, as you aren't going to get a second bid, and that
necessarily means that the bids have to be a bit vaguer than normal.
> I do like the idea of using Exclusion, but not a lot
> of people around here play it. I believe that the usual
> definition of Exclusion is a *jump* to 4 of the void suit.
> In this auction, 4S would not be a jump, but when playing
> Exclusion, I don't know what else it could be, although
> as noted below, 2S doesn't agree diamonds in SAYC, so even
> if pard takes 4S as Exclusion, he may think that it's in
> support of his last natural suit bid (clubs, in this case).
If you have Exclusion agreed, perhaps a direct 4S bid after 1D, (1S)
would solve the problem? That surely can't be natural (the major risk is
that partner takes it as a splinter, but 3S would be the splinter so
this probably counts as Exclusion; after all, it's above 4 of any
plausible suit), and probably agrees diamonds by implication.
My 3S suggestion was at least partially aimed at discovering whether
partner had the Ace of Spades; if partner denies it, you can safely use
a "regular" keycard ask because you know there won't be an Ace wasted
opposite your void.
> Regarding: "the cue bid tends to indicate longer diamonds." -
>
> ACBL says:
> "In SAYC, a cue bid is simply a forcing bid which can be used with
> any good hand for which no better bid is available. It may or may
> not be a raise. This is clarified by subsequent bidding."
The cue bid doesn't /promise/ support in SAYC, but it nonetheless still
tends to show support; if you're short in partner's suit, there
normally is a better bid available (double). So in practice, the only
times it doesn't show support are when you have a long suit of your own
and are too strong to simply bid it immediately, or when you have length
in the opponents' suits and are unsuitable for a notrump bid for some
reason.
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ais523