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Lorne

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Jun 7, 2013, 6:43:58 PM6/7/13
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Playing natural methods where 2C is a GF or 22+ balanced and 2S response
shows 5+ spades and 3+ controls:

2C (P) 2S (P)
3H (P) 4H (P)
4S (P) ?

as responder you hold:
AK1087
973
86
J62

your call?

dake50

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Jun 8, 2013, 9:48:37 AM6/8/13
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Why did partner not take control here?
He must be missing a minor control. I don't have one either, 5H.

rhm

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Jun 8, 2013, 3:35:43 PM6/8/13
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On Saturday, June 8, 2013 3:48:37 PM UTC+2, dake50 wrote:
> Why did partner not take control here?
>
> He must be missing a minor control. I don't have one either, 5H.

Partner should not control bid shortage in a suit where you have shown strength.
Are you seriously claiming your partner opened 2C, missing controls in spades and a minor?
Hard to believe, but if that is the case, how come he continued over 4H missing first and second round control in two suits?

I am not against bidding 5H, since you have nothing more to show.
But your analysis makes no sense to me.
I guess partner is more likely checking whether to bid a grand.
If partner continues with 5NT over 5H I bid 6D to show third round control

Rainer Herrmann


axm...@hotmail.com

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Jun 8, 2013, 7:43:22 PM6/8/13
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When I last used 2C SAF [about 25 years ago] rebids started naming
controls [first round before second round]. Thus in this auction I
would rebid 3S and and then ‘sign off’ in hearts- thereafter
cooperating with opener.

In that vein for this case, by rebidding 4H responder has denied minor
suit controls. So opener’s 4S** infers that he’s got minors sewn up
[opposite a partner that doesn’t have them it would be insane to go
past the four level with no slam makable] and needs to be raised to 5S
giving him options.

** it doesn’t matter if 4S was based on first round or length, opener
needs to know responder’s cards

ragards
axman

dake50

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Jun 9, 2013, 11:03:55 AM6/9/13
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Partner should not control bid shortage in a suit where you have shown strength.
Are you seriously claiming your partner opened 2C, missing controls in spades and a minor?
Hard to believe, but if that is the case, how come he continued over 4H missing first and second round control in two suits?
I am not against bidding 5H, since you have nothing more to show.
But your analysis makes no sense to me.
I guess partner is more likely checking whether to bid a grand.
If partner continues with 5NT over 5H I bid 6D to show third round control
--Rainer Herrman

*** Agree. Hard to believe partner is missing three controls (as you seem to be suggesting).
But 1 = *one critical* control is what I suggested, NOT 2 or 3 by your analysis makes "NO SENSE".

Eric Leong

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Jun 22, 2013, 8:48:06 PM6/22/13
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With nothing more to show I bid 5H. Since you didn't show any minor suit control over 4S you can only have the ace and king of spades.

Eric Leong
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