A simple idea

[Frisbieinstein]

One of the things that has always bugged me about bridge is inviting
slam as responder to an opening bid. Here is a simple way to do
this.

In the system I play a 2C or 2D response is forcing to 3NT, it is
still possible to stop in 4C or 4D. The 2C response may be
artificial. So how about this. 2D over 1 of a suit is a slam
invitation of unspecified nature. Once we have that out of the way
there is plenty of room to bid out shape.

[henry...@yahoo.com]

In fact, I once had a long email conversation with a couple of
Australian internationalists about Klinger's Power system, wondering
if it would be worthwhile to define

1M 2c = GF, 12-14 hcps or any hand intending to go to slam
1M 2d = GF with slam interest, about 15-17 hcps or so

One thought this was a good idea; the other thought it was not. The
main reason it was thought not to be a good idea was because
invitational hands need now to go through a forcing 1nt, and in the
original system 1nt was not forcing (in part because 1M 2c = GI,
roughly 10-12 hcps and 1M 2d = GF, 13+ hcps. So 1M 1nt was usually
limited to 9/10 hcps).

I would encourage you to look at Klinger's book and see whether you
can get something to work out using 1M 2d as an immediate slam
suggestion.

Henrysun909

[KWSchneider]

On Nov 23, 10:25 pm, "henrysun...@yahoo.com" <henrysun...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

It's actually easier to use the 2C GF and 2D SI concept here in the
ACBL - it's legal, whereas 2C GI is not.

Kurt

[henry...@yahoo.com]

That's right. The GI 2c response, which I found to be unhelpful,
isn't ACBL legal as far as I am aware.

Henrysun909

[Kieran Dyke]

<henry...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Henrysun909

One immediate problem is that a lot of hands have no idea whether they're a
slam invitation before investigating fits.

Tiggrr

[castigamatti]

This idea 'of yours' makes more sense in a Canape´ environment. When
we focus for a moment on bidding systems like the Neapolitan Club
( Fiori Napoletano ) and we recall that the reverses by responder are
being used for all strong hands, not necessarily long or strong enough
for an immediate jump shift, and where 2C and 2D mostly don't
correspond to real suits, some have thought of using them in a
slightly different way, it is to say 2C as invitational to game while
2D as forcing to game, but completely artificial.

B.R.

[henry...@yahoo.com]

On Nov 23, 10:53 pm, "Kieran Dyke" <tig...@idx.com.au> wrote:
> <henrysun...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

True.

The problem that the 2d = 15-17 hcps response would solve is the issue
of how responder shows strength in that range without forcing the
bidding too high. The value of this in a Power context is that after
opener shows his shape, responder will either terminate or set suits
and ask for key cards, but if responder wants to terminate, an opener
with extras (say, 16+ hcps) can ignore the terminator puppet and show
controls (not key cards because no suit has been set) because he is
certain of extra values opposite.

Occasionally the partnership will get too high, but the 15/16 opposite
15/16 point hands are the hardest slams to bid in natural methods
because neither opener nor responder always gets the chance to show
extra values.

Henrysun909

[axm...@hotmail.com]

All that bidding room you think that you have turns out to not be
nearly so much as you imagine.

Good results will come exponentially in proportion to the amount of UI
used.

regards
axman