My WJ idea
Frisbieinstein
rule for openings. Open with 12+ HCP, else not. What could be done
is this.
Have the 1H and 1S opening bids be similar to Precision. That is,
rule of 17 or something and limited to 15 HCP. Adjust everything else
to fit. This would be easy to do and would be a big improvement, I
believe.
castigamatti
How about 2D as a five card major and a four card minor, limited to
12, passable, 2NT as both majors ( who needs the minors ) and 2H, 2S
as weak two bids. I actually like the Polish Club more, especially
that little devil of 1C.
B.R.
castigamatti
Or better yet, since the above suggestion is probably not permitted in
many events, play that a 1D opening, already showing 4+D in some
versions of the system, can be opened with a five card major in the 16
- 18 range ( exactly 4D and 5M ) while the 2D opening with exactly 4C
and 5M, and again in the 16 - 18 range. 2NT as above with both majors,
while at the same time lowering the 1M opening bids to 10 - 14.
B.R.
LowerLine
In WJ 1C-1S-2H is GF. If you lower the upper limit of your 1H opening,
this is no longer the case. If you decide that the 1M responses to 1C
must show 9+ this is fixed again, but now you have extra complications
after 1C-1D because of the wider range. Changing one bit of the system
can compromise the consistency of the whole structure. Carefully think
this through.
Steven
~|_ukasz
> I play WJ (Polish Club). The main thing I don't like about it is the
> rule for openings. Open with 12+ HCP, else not. What could be done
> is this.
Really?!?
This is the same rule that can be find in SAYC, 2/1 and other systems.
Moreover, in most versions od WJ you can open precision-like 2C (10?-14).
There is also a tendency among (top) polish players to open 1M light,
especially third hand, and it doesn't cause any troubles.
Frisbieinstein
wrote:
Yes, I would believe that top Polish players use the rule of 20 or
something like that. It is a trivial modification. All that is
necessary is that partner be aware this is going on and adjust. But
I can tell you that your average Pole does not play this way. It is
12 HCP, hard and fast. It certainly helps for finding NT contracts.
What I'm suggesting is something more radical, rule of 17 or something
for majors, and then it is necessary to fiddle with the rest of the
system.
I want to be able to open
AJ974
Q32
Q53
T3
because I think this will help Us more than it does Them. He may be
able to preempt or blast to 4S. He knows I don't have nada. If
nothing else it directs his lead.
castigamatti
You are missing the point, this is not an opening bid, not even close.
This is S Axxxx H x D AQxx C xxx close, very close, some would say
mandatory. :)
B.R.
Player
AJ974
Q32
Q53
T3
If you want to open this, then I suggest you play a system such as
Moscito, or perhaps one of the Polish lob systems. This is not close
to an opener in any normal style.
Frisbieinstein
Yes, Moscito is where I got the idea. The Polish style has the
advantage that the 1C opener is not a good target for aggressive
preemption.