Is this a negative double.
sofos
are limited to 16 HCP. Your 2C opener typically shows 6C or 5C and a 4-
card major in a 5-4-3-1 hand. You play negative doubles over
interference following your side's 2C.
At IMPs both vul partner deals and opens 2C. RHO overcalls 2H. You
hold
KQ95 743 JT984 J
Do you think this is enough to double? If you think it is not how much
more would you need to make this an acceptable double? If you think
this is enough to double on would changing the club J to a small card
or weakening the diamond holding still make this hand an acceptable
negative double?
henry...@yahoo.com
yes, I do. Give partner as little as
AJxx
xx
x
AKxxxx
and after 2c (2h) p (4h) opener is mostly screwed, but he at least has
a shot at bidding 4s if he knows of 4 card spades opposite.
You might get to 3c on a 6-1 fit and that's the downside. I wouldn't
criticize a pass or a double, but I would double.
Henrysun909
Nick France
I'm aggressive so I'll double.
Nick France
jogs
Double. If it goes 2C - (2H) - X - p, 3C, you must pass.
dak...@aol.com
later penalty double by partner? Or let them have no-danger over-
bids? Looks SK + CA C-ruff + partner's D trick against 4H, so I try
double.
Robert Tamlyn
<henry...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Nov 20, 6:27 pm, sofos <papakon...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> You are playing a strong club style where bids other than 1C and 2NT
>> are limited to 16 HCP. Your 2C opener typically shows 6C or 5C and a 4-
>> card major in a 5-4-3-1 hand. You play negative doubles over
>> interference following your side's 2C.
>> At IMPs both vul partner deals and opens 2C. RHO overcalls 2H. You
>> hold
>>
>> KQ95 743 JT984 J
>>
>> Do you think this is enough to double? If you think it is not how much
>> more would you need to make this an acceptable double? If you think
>> this is enough to double on would changing the club J to a small card
>> or weakening the diamond holding still make this hand an acceptable
>> negative double?
>
> yes, I do. Give partner as little as
>
> AJxx
> xx
> x
> AKxxxx
As "little" as? That is a big hand with all high cards working. And you
still have not made 4S.
>
> and after 2c (2h) p (4h) opener is mostly screwed, but he at least has
> a shot at bidding 4s if he knows of 4 card spades opposite.
>
> You might get to 3c on a 6-1 fit and that's the downside. I wouldn't
> criticize a pass or a double, but I would double.
>
> Henrysun909
With three small H's and sub minimum HCP for a 2 level negative double, I
think double is a clear overbid.
I think you have to concede the missed 4S because you are so likely to get
overboard almost all of the time. How do you deal with partner bidding 3NT
for example? Or 2NT?
Rob
paul
I strongly prefer to have a doubleton in opener's suit when I make a
negative double. The stiff jack is nice, but as the values are thin
and the club support subpar for bidding to the three level I'll pass.
henry...@yahoo.com
> <henrysun...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
You may well be right. I didn't say double was right, simply that I
would bid it :)
Henrysun909
Andrew
> are limited to 16 HCP. Your 2C opener typically shows 6C or 5C and a 4-
> card major in a 5-4-3-1 hand. You play negative doubles over
> interference following your side's 2C.
> At IMPs both vul partner deals and opens 2C. RHO overcalls 2H. You
> hold
>
> KQ95 743 JT984 J
>
> Do you think this is enough to double?
No.
> If you think it is not how much
> more would you need to make this an acceptable double?
Add a minor suit queen or trade SK for SA and you can scrape up a
double.
Andrew
Lorne
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I would for several reasons:
1. there is a chance the oppo can make 4H so telling partner you have spades
may help him decide what to do
2. If you have a spade fit you will make more tricks than your point count
suggests
3. 3C should be OK if there is no spade fit (since he has at least 6 of them
now)
4. partner may have clubs & hearts in which case the oppo are in a loy of
trouble
5. I always take the aggressive view in competitive auctions if there sems
to be a choice - the extra chance of winning when I am wrong because the
oppo miss-guess sways the odds in my favour.
KWSchneider
As a "strong club" practitioner, this is an automatic negative double
with your system. I'm not a supporter of the 2C opening with a side
4card major, however; so my 2C opening would eliminate the need for
this "guesswork".
In this particular circumstance, partner should have either 4 spades
or 6clubs and you can handle either a 2S or 3C bid by him. I would
pass 3C and bid 3S over 2S, hoping for a nice cross ruff for 10 tricks
if he raises.
Kurt