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impoved movement sought for 7.5 tables

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David Babcock

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Aug 14, 2011, 7:58:59 AM8/14/11
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ACBLscore comes with a movement called H8ROVER that provides a
reasonable game for 7.5 tables with many stationaries - it is basically
a Mitchell but with a roving pair that misses 2 boards, plays two at 2
NS, then goes into a pattern of two boards NS then two EW at table 4,
then 6, 1, 3, 5, 7. It all works (it would work better out of the box
if they had a built-in arrow switch) but is open to the objection that
one pair has all the hassle, and to the lesser objection that having to
cater to genuinely immobile NS pairs creates some confusion whern they
are bumped. Any solutions that gives everyone 24+ boards with no more
than a 2-board sitout will be appreciated.

DavidB

David Babcock

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Aug 14, 2011, 9:54:23 AM8/14/11
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In article <MPG.28b1828d1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
Dav...@spambucket.invalid says...
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PS:

Manning suggests a Hesitation Bowman as a way to handle a late pair in a
non-relay Mitchell, and I wrote that out and then attempted to get two-
board rather than four-board sitouts by having an E/W pair leave their
seat for two boards (conveniently creating a N/S sitout without N/S
having to get up) and play against the sitout pair each round after the
first - but this ran into problems with the moving pairs often already
playing each other at the pivot table. (This general idea worked fine
to handle a late pair in a 6-table relay Mitchell).

A possible line might be to modify the H8ROVER rover into some kind of
bump rover, like in the old Bump Mitchell, where the rover bumps one
pair and then stays, the bumped pair is out a round and then bumps
another air and then stays etc - the payoff here is more about
"spreading the misery" than a better movement - but that wasn't fruitful
last night either.

DavidB

Paul Hightower

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Aug 14, 2011, 10:48:49 AM8/14/11
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At our club the director simply has the bumper pair play at a spare table
for the two boards where one of our immobile players would have to get up.


jogs

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Aug 14, 2011, 5:01:21 PM8/14/11
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Pretty sure you must run a Howell movement
to avoid skipping more than two boards.

Unless you decide to run a 2 board 7 table
Mitchell twice. The first time around bump
East-West pairs. The second time bump
North-South pairs. Would be able to provide
a complete score after 7 rounds and 14 boards
played.

David Babcock

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Aug 15, 2011, 9:12:28 AM8/15/11
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> Unless you decide to run a 2 board 7 table
> Mitchell twice. The first time around bump
> East-West pairs. The second time bump
> North-South pairs.

A further constraint we've imposed on ourselves is trying not to bump
N/S pairs because of the hassle when it's their turn to be bumped - it
can be managed, of course, but not all the E/Ws visualize it well and it
seems stressful on them sometimes - not physically but a few of them are
just disoriented - so we're trying to avoid that. A riff on your
suggestion would be to have a phantom E/W in stanza 1 to get the N/S
sitout. This may take some doodling, especially to avoid introducing
any more boards than 28, but I'm guessing it will be do-able.

DavidB

Travis Crump

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Aug 15, 2011, 3:09:37 PM8/15/11
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I certainly think that in any bump movement the onus on warning the
bumpee should be on the director. Simplest is to just print up guide
cards for every NS even though mostly they'll mostly just be staying at
the same table. And then try to remind them on top of that.

Steve Foster

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Aug 15, 2011, 5:40:21 PM8/15/11
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David Babcock wrote:

I'd suggest a 3/4 howell seems the most straight-forward, no rovers or
other complications. These allow for between 2 and 4 stationary NS
pairs (depending on variant), and the rest have to move. Ideally, you
would assign one of the stationary NS pairs as the phantom if you have
a half-table (but it's not mandatory).

If you have a copy of Manning's EBU Manual of Movements, you want pages
52-57 (3 options depending on board numbers - 24, 26 or 28). Pages
58/59 have the full howell (30 boards). If you haven't got a copy, I
recommend getting one.

The base templates for the three 3/4 Howells are:

24: 9A10 3B7 13C2 6D4 11E8 14F1 15G5 16H12 (13-16 stationary, A/S last
3 rounds @ T3)
26: 7A11 10B5 1C8 3D4 14E6 2F13 15G9 16H12 (14-16 stationary, A/S
rounds 8 & 13 @ T7)
28: 1A12 B/S 10C2 13D8 6E7 9F11 15G5 4H14 16I3 (15-16 stationary)

I think you also ought to grab a copy of Ian McKinnon's free Jeanie
program - it lists lots and lots of movements - and his "Bridge
Directing Complete" PDF, as it has lots of stuff on movements and
constructing them.

http://www.asecomputing.com/Jeanie.htm
http://www.asecomputing.com/BDC.htm

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David Babcock

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Aug 16, 2011, 10:22:19 AM8/16/11
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In article <xn0hhwhe6...@news.eternal-september.org>,
steve...@invalid.invalid says...

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> If you have a copy of Manning's EBU Manual of Movements

yes

> you want pages
> 52-57 (3 options depending on board numbers - 24, 26 or 28). Pages
> 58/59 have the full howell (30 boards).

I will look later today and see whether ACBLscore has the most promising
of those (here in South Florida, that means the ones with the most
stationaries). I can prepare a matrix in ACBLscore format if it doesn't
have it.

> I think you also ought to grab a copy of Ian McKinnon's free Jeanie
> program - it lists lots and lots of movements - and his "Bridge
> Directing Complete" PDF, as it has lots of stuff on movements and
> constructing them.

Great links those - thanks. Just downloaded the book.

DavidB

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