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Finn Ovstedal

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Jun 29, 2002, 4:35:06 PM6/29/02
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The Verdi convention, as devised by Sven Novrup and Anders Laustsen...
does anybody have their complete description?

Thanks!

Kind regards,
Finn


Sid Ismail

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Jun 29, 2002, 6:44:38 PM6/29/02
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On Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:35:06 GMT, "Finn Ovstedal" <foev...@frisurf.no>
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>The Verdi convention, as devised by Sven Novrup and Anders Laustsen...
>does anybody have their complete description?


<quote>
Transfer Opening Three-Bids
This is a feature of the Texas principle, although the method was refined by
Mr. Svend Novrup and Mr. Anders Lausten of Denmark in 1968, which they
called Verdi. An opening of Three Clubs, Three Diamonds or Three Hearts
transfers to the nest-higher suit and contains normal preemptive strength.
An opening of Three Spades shows a solid Minor suit, which allows 3 No Trump
to be played from the correct side. An opening of 3 No Trump shows a
semi-solid Minor suit. NAMYATS is also used with this method. Opening on the
Three Level with the intention of transferring has several advantages. The
lead will be to the hand which holds the stronger side suits. The defense
has little knowledge concerning the strength and distribution of the
declarer. The opening bidder is able to show a two-suited holding by
rebidding his second suit.
</quote>

from: http://www.bridgeguys.com/TGlossary/GlossT.html

Sid

Tobbe

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Jun 30, 2002, 9:42:13 AM6/30/02
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Sid Ismail <el...@worldonline.co.za> wrote in message news:<31eshu0ok6sb9uv1a...@4ax.com>...

There are at least two significant drawbacks of this method when the
opposing side has the majority of the strength (and that is what you
hope for after a preempt, isn't it?).

1. LHO gets two chances to bid.

2. LHO has a cheap cue-bid available

IMHO Verdi is one of the worst conventions ever invented.

Tobbe

Henk Uijterwaal (RIPE-NCC)

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Jun 30, 2002, 10:31:52 AM6/30/02
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On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, Sid Ismail wrote:

> On Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:35:06 GMT, "Finn Ovstedal" <foev...@frisurf.no>
> wrote:
>
> >The Verdi convention, as devised by Sven Novrup and Anders Laustsen...
> >does anybody have their complete description?
>
>
> <quote>
> Transfer Opening Three-Bids
> This is a feature of the Texas principle, although the method was refined by
> Mr. Svend Novrup and Mr. Anders Lausten of Denmark in 1968, which they
> called Verdi.

The name came from the argument that the Italians were the strongest team,
so having another Italian name on your CC should be an advantage.

> An opening of Three Clubs, Three Diamonds or Three Hearts
> transfers to the nest-higher suit and contains normal preemptive strength.
> An opening of Three Spades shows a solid Minor suit, which allows 3 No Trump
> to be played from the correct side. An opening of 3 No Trump shows a
> semi-solid Minor suit. NAMYATS is also used with this method. Opening on the
> Three Level with the intention of transferring has several advantages. The
> lead will be to the hand which holds the stronger side suits. The defense
> has little knowledge concerning the strength and distribution of the
> declarer.

On the other hand, the defence knows that 3C/D/H will always never be
passed out, giving the defence more opportunities to bid:

(3 H) - X
(3 H) - 3 S
(3 H) - Pass - (3 S) - Pass ; Pass - ???

> The opening bidder is able to show a two-suited holding by rebidding his
> second suit.

How often does one have a 2 suited hand for a preempt, and if the auction
starts 3C-P-3D-P;P-X-P-P how does one know that running to the second suit
will be better.

Henk


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Finn Ovstedal

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Jun 30, 2002, 11:36:58 AM6/30/02
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My intention with posting this was not to start a discussion!

Well... I see that there are lots of negative arguments about Verdi, and so
far,
non positive. I guess that goes with all transfer bids, no matter what
level.
How many have you seen making an agreement over a Jacoby transfer?
Take a look at Bocchi/Duboin & Buratti/Lanzarotti systems... hard to find
any
response that isn't a transfer (or multi)... and their awful results in
Salsomaggiore.

I think I know about the pros and cons. I just wanted a description!

My idea was to combine a weak 1-suiter and a strong 2-suiter (where 1 suit
is known,
to avoid Brown-sticker regulation)... a multi bid. That might be harder to
defend.

Kind regards,
Finn

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