2 TG hands from last night
don...@mont.mindspring.com
Here are two hands on which I did not shine. Comments from the
discuss folk are solicited:
Board 1, IMPS, red vs white. You hold in 1st seat:
9; QJT8754; KT6; QT. Please rate the following opening bids
on a scale of 1-10, 10 being best, 1 being worst:
Pass;
1H;
2H;
3H;
4H.
Board 2, IMPS, white vs red. You hold in 1st seat:
84; A42; J93; AK965. The bidding goes:
You LHO Partner RHO
1C P 1H P
2H P P 2S
Dbl P ?
Is there a standard expert meaning for the double? Since
partner has 2NT available as a pure takeout bid, her
double must lie along the cards/optional/business
continuum - but where? And what would you bid?
Incidentally, your partner is that gracious and charming
expert Marcia Masterson, so for once (!) you need not
worry about the competence of your compatriot.
Thanks for your help!
HenrySun
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Donna Garverick or Henry Sun wrote:
>
> Here are two hands on which I did not shine. Comments from the
> discuss folk are solicited:
>
> Board 1, IMPS, red vs white. You hold in 1st seat:
> 9; QJT8754; KT6; QT. Please rate the following opening bids
> on a scale of 1-10, 10 being best, 1 being worst:
>
> 1H; 1
> 2H; 3
> 3H; 2
> 4H. 0
>
> Board 2, IMPS, white vs red. You hold in 1st seat:
> 84; A42; J93; AK965. The bidding goes:
> You LHO Partner RHO
> 1C P 1H P
> 2H P P 2S
> Dbl P ?
>
> Is there a standard expert meaning for the double? Since
> partner has 2NT available as a pure takeout bid, her
> double must lie along the cards/optional/business
> continuum - but where? And what would you bid?
The double should indicate the values to compete to the 3 level, but
with a defensive orientation. The actual hand is too light, especially
at imps. I'd pass 2S.
Rod Roark
don...@mont.mindspring.com wrote:
: Board 1, IMPS, red vs white. You hold in 1st seat:
: 9; QJT8754; KT6; QT. Please rate the following opening bids
: on a scale of 1-10, 10 being best, 1 being worst:
Pass 10, 2H 3, anything else 1. You have too much outside of hearts to
start preempting partner, when a vulnerable game may be available.
: Board 2, IMPS, white vs red. You hold in 1st seat:
: 84; A42; J93; AK965. The bidding goes:
: You LHO Partner RHO
: 1C P 1H P
: 2H P P 2S
: Dbl P ?
: Is there a standard expert meaning for the double? ....
Yes -- business. :)
Pard almost certainly is 4-4 in the majors, with good quality in spades.
You have good defensive values and no reason to take out. Sometimes these
get wrapped, but I think you're a favorite for +500.
-- Rod
Rod Roark
Rod Roark <rro...@primenet.com> wrote:
: don...@mont.mindspring.com wrote:
: : Board 2, IMPS, white vs red. You hold in 1st seat:
: : 84; A42; J93; AK965. The bidding goes:
: : You LHO Partner RHO
: : 1C P 1H P
: : 2H P P 2S
: : Dbl P ?
Whoops! Did you mean to post the auction as 1C-P-1H-P-2H-P-P-2S-P-P-Dbl?
I took it as 1C-P-1H-P-2H-2S-Dbl, but on reflection I doubt you'd be
asking about THAT auction.
If the former: low-level doubles in passout seat generally mean "partner,
please do something intelligent!". Your partner has something like
2-4-4-3 and just doesn't want to sell out. Bid 3C.
-- Rod
jo...@rahul.net
Donna Garverick or Henry Sun wrote:
>
> Here are two hands on which I did not shine. Comments from the
> discuss folk are solicited:
>
> 9; QJT8754; KT6; QT. Please rate the following opening bids
> on a scale of 1-10, 10 being best, 1 being worst:
>
> 1H;
> 2H;
> 3H;
> 4H.
>
> Board 2, IMPS, white vs red. You hold in 1st seat:
> 84; A42; J93; AK965. The bidding goes:
> You LHO Partner RHO
> 1C P 1H P
> 2H P P 2S
> Dbl P ?
>
> partner has 2NT available as a pure takeout bid, her
> double must lie along the cards/optional/business
> continuum - but where? And what would you bid?
>
> expert Marcia Masterson, so for once (!) you need not
> worry about the competence of your compatriot.
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> HenrySun
problem 1:
1H : 2 point. You get 2 points because you might be confused playing a forcing
pass system in the past where one hearts shows 0-2 or 6+ hearts, 8-12.
2H : 3 points. Hate weak two's on 7 card suits because the 7th heart always
produces a extra trick.
3H : 10. Why not, this is a perfect 3H.
4H : 9. This could work very well but is anti field and therefore only 9. It
would be my choise 35% of the time.
Problem 2.
Assuming double is penalty I bid 4C. Partner appears to be short in diamonds so
I have a great hand. Have to show exelent club support.
Jos.
Donald A. Varvel
In <59jd99$j...@ordeal.cts.com> don...@mont.mindspring.com writes:
>
>Here are two hands on which I did not shine. Comments from the
>discuss folk are solicited:
>
>Board 1, IMPS, red vs white. You hold in 1st seat:
>9; QJT8754; KT6; QT. Please rate the following opening bids
>on a scale of 1-10, 10 being best, 1 being worst:
>
>Pass;
>1H;
>2H;
>3H;
>4H.
Pass -- 3
1H -- 0
2H -- 10
3H -- 7
4H -- 0
Pass gets 3 because I think it's a whole lot better than 1H or
4H. The school of thought that never opens 2X with a 7-card
suit, even at unfavorable, won't agree with my choice of 2H.
I have nothing against 3H; it could work; but my feeling is
that I have too much defense and not enough offense for it to
be a good call at these colors. I'm a lot surer about 4H.
>Board 2, IMPS, white vs red. You hold in 1st seat:
>84; A42; J93; AK965. The bidding goes:
>You LHO Partner RHO
>1C P 1H P
>2H P P 2S
>Dbl P ?
>
>Is there a standard expert meaning for the double? Since
>partner has 2NT available as a pure takeout bid, her
>double must lie along the cards/optional/business
>continuum - but where? And what would you bid?
Something is surely wrong here. As the bidding is given, *you*
doubled, and I know you aren't insane. I think the double as
given in the bidding above is penalty without discussion.
Assuming you actually passed 2S (I certainly would), and pard
doubled, I would also take it as primarily penalty and with
3 aces and a minimal fit would be delighted to pass. I would
expect partner to have at least KQT Kxxx xxxx xx and possibly
KQTx KJxx xxx xx.
>Incidentally, your partner is that gracious and charming
>expert Marcia Masterson, so for once (!) you need not
>worry about the competence of your compatriot.
I look forward to hearing what you and the gracious and charming
expert Marcia Masterson thought the bid meant. Sounds like a
wonderful story, at least for those of us not directly involved.
>Thanks for your help!
>
>HenrySun
-- Don Varvel
jka...@cts.com
>Here are two hands on which I did not shine. Comments from the
>discuss folk are solicited:
>
>Board 1, IMPS, red vs white. You hold in 1st seat:
>9; QJT8754; KT6; QT. Please rate the following opening bids
>on a scale of 1-10, 10 being best, 1 being worst:
>
>Pass;
>1H;
>2H;
>3H;
>4H.
>
>84; A42; J93; AK965. The bidding goes:
>You LHO Partner RHO
>1C P 1H P
>2H P P 2S
>Dbl P ?
>
>Is there a standard expert meaning for the double? Since
>partner has 2NT available as a pure takeout bid, her
>double must lie along the cards/optional/business
>continuum - but where? And what would you bid?
>
>expert Marcia Masterson, so for once (!) you need not
>worry about the competence of your compatriot.
>
>
>HenrySun
>
>
These evaluations are of course completely based on being red
vs white. At equal vul. - I'd rate 3H=10 and white vs red 4H would get say 6-7.
Board 2: Double is clearly "cards" to me, and might imply only 3 card
support. Pard can pass, bid 3C with 4, 3H with 5 or 2NT to make me chose.
That being said, I DON'T think this hand qualifies for a double - "cards" is
related to the previous bidding and since we opened the bidding already, and
raised partner, I think we have just about exhausted the virtues of this
hand! If pard cannot act after 2S we have no business competing further.
That's just an example of the value of owning the spade-suit.
::))
don...@mont.mindspring.com
At 08:47 AM 12/23/96 -0500, you wrote:
>Why are we discussing Team Games? Others will get the same boards, I
>thought there was a policy about discussing these boards in place. Unless
>of course this is a week or so old, but from the Subject it says last
>night.
>
Sorry, Robin - I was under the impression that boards from the team
games were not circulated as boards from IMP play and MP play
are.
If i've caused any inconvenience to other TGers, I apologize and
will be more attentive in the future.
But I was so frustrated with my performance that I simply had to
ask while the fire was still hot, so to speak.
Blushedly, and with much chagrin,
HenrySun
b...@mail.netshop.net
Henry;
I think you are right and Robin was wrong-the tg hands are not circulated.
Bob