shogun: old avalon hill game
Michael A Hayman
Yes this post should be elsewhere but before the guy goes off and buys the
wrong game be aware that Bruce is confusing the game. Avalon Hills game
is not the same as the MB game of either title.
Mike Hayman
New Orleans
On 13 Jun 1997, Bruce Eliot Duewer wrote:
> In article <5nrhln$g...@brtph500.bnr.ca>, Wray Ferrell <wr...@bnr.ca> wrote:
> >
> >In article <chrisg-1206...@chrisg.dialup.access.net>, chr...@doubleaught.comREMOVE (Chris Geisel) writes:
> >
> >|> can anyone help me find a copy of "shogun", the japanese version of the
> >|> avalon hill game "kingmaker"? i loved this game years ago, but the guy
> >|> who owned the copy we all used to play with moved on. according to the
> >|> compleat strategist (new york store), the game is out of print. any
> >|> information on how to find this great game in the new york area would be
> >|> much appreciated.
> <clip>
> > However, the answer to your question is the game has been re-released
> > under the name Samuri (sp?) Swords. While I am not sure, I do believe
> > that the game is only available at Toys R Us.
> >
> >Wray
>
> I got my copy of Samurai Swords at Games Galore. It's made by the same
> people who do Axis & Allies, and was indeed previously released as Shogun.
> Whether it is the Shogun that Chris Geisel is looking for, or whether
> he's looking for the other Shogun that sued and got the name changed to
> Samurai Swords is another question.. The Samurai Swords version is basically
> a cross between Axis & Allies and Risk, combining some of the better elements
> of both. IMHO, of course.
>
> Followups directed to rec.games.board.
>
> Bruce
>
>
Brian Newman
In article <Pine.GSO.3.95.970614...@sparkie.gnofn.org>, Michael A Hayman <ma...@gnofn.org> wrote:
>Yes this post should be elsewhere but before the guy goes off and buys the
>wrong game be aware that Bruce is confusing the game. Avalon Hills game
>is not the same as the MB game of either title.
[...]
> chr...@doubleaught.comREMOVE (Chris Geisel) writes:
>> >
>> >|> can anyone help me find a copy of "shogun", the japanese version of the
>> >|> avalon hill game "kingmaker"? i loved this game years ago, but the guy
>> >|> who owned the copy we all used to play with moved on. according to the
>> >|> compleat strategist (new york store), the game is out of print. any
>> >|> information on how to find this great game in the new york area would be
>> >|> much appreciated.
>> <clip>
>> > However, the answer to your question is the game has been re-released
>> > under the name Samuri (sp?) Swords. While I am not sure, I do believe
>> > that the game is only available at Toys R Us.
[...]
>> I got my copy of Samurai Swords at Games Galore. It's made by the
same
>> people who do Axis & Allies, and was indeed previously released as Shogun.
>> Whether it is the Shogun that Chris Geisel is looking for, or whether
>> he's looking for the other Shogun that sued and got the name changed to
>> Samurai Swords is another question.. The Samurai Swords version is basically
>> a cross between Axis & Allies and Risk, combining some of the better elements
>> of both. IMHO, of course.
Okay, let's see if we can clear some of this up.
There is a game called "Samurai" published by Avalon Hill (now out of
print, I think), which is very much like Kingmaker. It plays in roughly
the same way.
The game "Shogun" by Milton Bradley in their Gamemaster line was
republished with the name "Samurai Swords".
To confuse this more, there is a boardgame called "Samurai" put out by
GMT. There also is a boardgame called "Shogun" published by FASA and a
cardgame called "Shogun" published by Mayfair, both based on the James
Clavell book, and both decent games.
Hope that helps. Make sure which one you want and which one you're
getting.
Shade and sweet water,
Brian
AlfonzoS
Avalon Hill made a game called Samurai. It was a reprint of a Battleline
title. The game played very much like Kingmaker.
Alfonzo Smith
Scott Bakke
AlfonzoS wrote:
I don't know about Samurai, but there was a game called Shogun; I think
it may have been made by Milton Bradley. It looked sort of like Axis and
Allies, but played differently (much better). It's a fun game.
--
Scott
Scott Bakke
Hutnik, Richard
Yes, Avalon Hill did a game called Samurai. I used to have it.
Just my 2 cents...
-Richard
N CHILTON
Hutnik, Richard (AB...@MARISTB.MARIST.EDU) wrote:
Samuri Blades (by Standard c1980) a war game similar to Cry Havoc
Nic
: Just my 2 cents...
: -Richard
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John Desmond
Salutations, gentlefolk,
I have in front of me a copy of "Samurai / by Dan Campagna / A
Battleline Game of / Politics and Warfare in / Feudal Japan
published by Battleline Games / a division of Heritage Models Inc. /
Dallas, Texas, USA"
copyright 1979, with 2 paragraphs of errata dated June 15, 1979
Plays a lot like Kingmaker, but graphics are much less appealing - all
titles, etc, are on counters - not multicolored cards. IMHO, tho, the
map is rather nice (for those pre computergraphics days)
Put it up f7or auction a couple of months ago, and if the chap who put
in the high bid doesnt get in touch with me soon, twill be on sale
again.
Avalon-Hill acquired the rights to print this game - along with the rest
of the Battleline games (WSIM, Machiavelli, etc) - but AFAIK never put
out an 'Avalon-Hill' edition - only replaced the 'Battleline' logo on
the box with theirs.
Its a good game and oughtta be reprinted with uptodate graphics
sometime...
Finally, it has almost nothing in common with Milton Bradley's 'Shogon'
/ 'Samurai Blades' (?) except that the gameboards for both are maps of
Japan.
Yours, John Desmond - jdes...@bbs.cpcn.com