Here's JellyFish 3.0 CRACK
beergut
On 31 Aug 1997 14:12:28 GMT, meh...@aol.com (Meha10) wrote:
~>You want to register for free?
~>NO PROBLEM. Just do this:
~>
You have no morals! Real backgammon players consider themselves honest
gentleman and ladies. What you are trying to do is akin to being a
dropper!If the code works, I would hope that the honest players out
there give Fredrik his due.
It is people like you that will eventually put a stop to all
shareware; instead making us by versions of programs without being
able to try them.
I take it you are proud of yourself.....as only a thief could be.
beergut............Bratter on
fibs.....GG...netgammon........igames......zone
mail to bee...@ilos.net (remove * from header)
Meha10
You want to register for free?
Name: Plushmm [PC97]
Code: 101313506404208
Enjoy!
helmet
In article <19970831141...@ladder02.news.aol.com> meh...@aol.com (Meha10) writes:
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>From: meh...@aol.com (Meha10)
>Newsgroups: rec.games.backgammon
>Subject: Here's JellyFish 3.0 CRACK
>Date: 31 Aug 1997 14:12:28 GMT
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>Name: Plushmm [PC97]
>Code: 101313506404208
>Enjoy!
thx for the crack. dosent seem to add any new features
though,whats different from unregistered version?
wisn...@teleport.com
On 2 Sep 1997 04:03:24 GMT, js...@mail2.sas.upenn.edu (John S Mamoun)
wrote:
>Meha10 (meh...@aol.com) wrote:
>: You want to register for free?
>: NO PROBLEM. Just do this:
>
>: Name: Plushmm [PC97]
>
>: Code: 101313506404208
>
>: Enjoy!
>
>This is extremely inappropriate, perhaps illegal. Note that
>E-mail and Newsgroup postings are far from being anonymous
>and can be traced fairly systematically by knowledgable
>computer experts. Your address is also tied to America
>Online, so AOL might be pressured into revealing your
>identity publicly, because behavior like this facilitates
>piracy and is immoral. Jellyfish required a large
>investment of time and effort to put together, and
>because it has a very limited market, and because
>shareware users often fail to register, even a slight
>decrease in user support can dramatically curtail its
>profitability. This discourages the production of
>further versions of the program, so there will be
>little further to enjoy...
This idiot is certifiable. Doesn't he/she realize that the
author/seller of this software can easily track him from the
information given here? Personally, I hope they sue his/her butt!
Marsha
Fredrik Dahl
helmet wrote:
> >You want to register for free?
> >NO PROBLEM. Just do this:
>
> >Name: Plushmm [PC97]
>
>
> >Enjoy!
> thx for the crack. dosent seem to add any new features
> though,whats different from unregistered version?
1) The nag screens that show up when you start the program or roll 66
disappear.
2) You get the Users Manual in the mail.
3) You support further development of JF.
Of course, only 1) applies if you use a crack code.
--
- Fredrik Dahl
ps: Marty had a good point: Those who repost the original message and
quote the code also help distributing it.
pss: We are of course working on the identity of the crack source.
John S Mamoun
: Name: Plushmm [PC97]
: Code: 101313506404208
John Yeung
NYCGuy <nyc...@NOTworldnet.att.net> wrote in article
<5ugpd6$3...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>...
> js...@mail2.sas.upenn.edu (John S Mamoun) felt inclined to declare:
>
> >This is extremely inappropriate, perhaps illegal.
>
It is possible that the person, while well-meaning, was either careless
about checking their post or ignorant as to how to use their newsreader.
Many people have no idea how to edit quoted material, or don't even
realize that they can do so. (Sad but true.)
John
Andy
One thing is for sure, the person that reposted the rebuttle with the
crack in the message is just as guilty, whether the good intention
was there or not, you are still ignorant.
Secondly, Cracked and redistributed software is nothing new, IN
FACT!!! Microsoft credits the success of their company and Windows to
the redistributers of Windows 3.1. They said without them they would
not be where they are today which is on top of the industry.
Therefore, The man who created the Jellyfish.... Just think, with all
of this commotion over your program, it must be popular, it must be
good, otherwise who would give a rat ass. Pardon my French.
I never tried it, I'm sure I would like it though, Congratulations
goes out to the programmer on creating a good one.
As for the cracker, or actually probably not the cracker but
someone who happened by it, and reposted, You shouldn't worry.
Or really care, these people in this group are under the impression
that you can get it BIG trouble for doing that, (knock Knock it's the
POLICE!! ) Yeah right. They could care less about you, trust me.
They only want the big boys, and if the author decides to press
charges, 1. He has to find you. Takes time and time is money
2. File the charges, more red tape
3. win the case
4. Pay the lawyer
Who wins ? Oh yeah while he went to file charges 1000 more people
reposted that same crack to every newsgroup in the world.
Hmmm, what to do , Nothing.
Ya just can't win.
So you people crying about morals, hypocrites!
I want YOU to look in the mirror and say " Man am I perfect. I have no
bad habits, I never cheat, speed, swear, envy, lie.I am perfect in
every way. " If you can say that then respond, I have to meet you.
P.S. No need to email. Its not my real address.
beergut
On Fri, 05 Sep 1997 19:37:28 GMT, beergut*@ilos.net (beergut) wrote:
<snip>
the above of course has to be done when you are replying to a post,
ok? Please do not try to edit an actual post, only your response :)
bratter in BG everywhere
beergut
It absolutely amazes me that people will take the time to compose a
message and type it out, chiding a poster who lets the crack be known,
and then in their own ignorance; keep and repost the crack
themselves!!!
This is not rocket science here people. It is very easy to delete
parts of a post. Just highlight ( you can do this by dragging your
cursor from right to left over the line and then hit the button on the
keyboard called delete......for as many lines as necessary) An easier
way is to hold the leftmouse button click, hold it and drag the cursor
down the right hand side of the message untill all the lines you wish
to remove and highlighted. You then look for the delete key on your
keyboard and push it!
really I know you have good intentions, but you are doing more harm
then good, by reposting the code over and over.
The beatings shall continue untill morale improves :)
regards Bratter everywhere :)
On Thu, 04 Sep 1997 23:09:36 +0200, "B.F. Kroghsbo"
<bj...@post1.tele.dk> wrote:
~>Question of beeing a thief or beeing honest.
~>
~>Look at you self in a mirror while you speek loud: I'm a thief, I'm
a
~>thief, I'm a thief - tell your friends, family and kids - I'm a
thief.
~>
~>It's not a question of being punished, it's not a question of being
~>smart or clever to crack the code - it's only a question of
moral!!!!
~>
~>So for your own contious: Change your attitude, - and be a happier
human
~>being. - Try it - I promise you - You'll be feeling great!
~>
~>Think of it Meha - AND LEARN! - spend your time on being a better
~>player instead of being a thief.
~>
~>Regards (bamsefar on FIBS)
~>
~>Meha10 wrote:
~>
~>> You want to register for free?
~>> NO PROBLEM. Just do this:
~>> Enjoy!
~>
~>
~>
Mogath
WELL SAID!!!!!!
beergut
On 5 Sep 1997 22:22:59 GMT, mog...@aol.com (Mogath) wrote:
~>>One thing is for sure, the person that reposted the rebuttle with
the
~>>crack in the message is just as guilty, whether the good intention
~>>was there or not, you are still ignorant.
That was my point, although I would not use the word ignorant, as it
may be a lack of knowledge using a news reader.
~>> Secondly, Cracked and redistributed software is nothing new,
IN
~>>FACT!!! Microsoft credits the success of their company and Windows
to
~>>the redistributers of Windows 3.1.
So in your small mind, this makes it perfectly acceptable for you?
They said without them they would
~>>not be where they are today which is on top of the industry.
~>>Therefore, The man who created the Jellyfish.... Just think, with
all
~>>of this commotion over your program, it must be popular, it must be
~>>good, otherwise who would give a rat ass. Pardon my French.
~>>I never tried it, I'm sure I would like it though,
It is not a wise practice to speak of things you have no knowledge of.
Congratulations
~>>goes out to the programmer on creating a good one.
~>> As for the cracker, or actually probably not the cracker but
~>>someone who happened by it, and reposted, You shouldn't worry.
~>>Or really care, these people in this group are under the impression
~>>that you can get it BIG trouble for doing that, (knock Knock it's
the
~>>POLICE!! ) Yeah right.
The programmer has already stated that he is looking into the matter.
I for one can't speak for what he will or will not do. Unfortunately
you seem to want to speak for everyone.
~they could care less about you, trust me.
why should anyone trust you????
~>>They only want the big boys, and if the author decides to press
~>>charges, 1. He has to find you. Takes time and time is money
~>>2. File the charges, more red tape
~>>3. win the case
~>>4. Pay the lawyer
~>>Who wins ? Oh yeah while he went to file charges 1000 more people
~>>reposted that same crack to every newsgroup in the world.
~>>Hmmm, what to do , Nothing.
~>>Ya just can't win.
You just don't get it do you. It is not about who wins or loses, it is
about honesty and integrity, both I see you lack.
~>>
~>>So you people crying about morals, hypocrites!
~>>I want YOU to look in the mirror and say " Man am I perfect. I have
no
~>>bad habits, I never cheat, speed, swear, envy, lie.I am perfect in
~>>every way. " If you can say that then respond, I have to meet you.
No one is perfect, least of all myself. Some are just a lot less
perfect then others....get it?
Wagdogs
>You just don't get it do you. It is not about who wins or loses, it is
>about honesty and integrity, both I see you lack.
>
>
Bravo - thanks for posting that.
Tim
Wizard1299
>ubject: Re: Here's JellyFish 3.0 CRACK
>From: beergut*@ilos.net (beergut)
>Date: Sat, 06 Sep 1997 16:06:58 GMT
>Message-id: <34117f9c...@news.ilos.net>
>
>On 5 Sep 1997 22:22:59 GMT, mog...@aol.com (Mogath) wrote:
>
>~>>One thing is for sure, the person that reposted the rebuttle with
>the
>~>>crack in the message is just as guilty, whether the good intention
>~>>was there or not, you are still ignorant.
>
>That was my point, although I would not use the word ignorant, as it
>may be a lack of knowledge using a news reader.
>
>
>
>~>> Secondly, Cracked and redistributed software is nothing new,
>IN
>~>>FACT!!! Microsoft credits the success of their company and Windows
>to
>~>>the redistributers of Windows 3.1.
>
>So in your small mind, this makes it perfectly acceptable for you?
>
>
Talk about small minds, you think simply because you admonish someone for
what they do, it is going to stop or even more so, that they care what you
think??? Wake up? They (we) don't. It's a new age where people are getting
what they want and doing it for free. Just look at all the sites on the web
where programs in their entirety can be downloaded. Why pay when you can
get something for nothing? If it makes you feel better to shell out the
money, than do so. I would like to know just how many people who subscribe
to this nesgroup actually used the crack? I am sure that many did. Check
your newsgroups as there are many sites devoted to nothing but providing
cracks to those who request them and judging by the popularity of such
sites, thousands are taking advantage of this "free" information.
>
> They said without them they would
>~>>not be where they are today which is on top of the industry.
>~>>Therefore, The man who created the Jellyfish.... Just think, with
>all
>~>>of this commotion over your program, it must be popular, it must be
>~>>good, otherwise who would give a rat ass. Pardon my French.
>~>>I never tried it, I'm sure I would like it though,
>
>It is not a wise practice to speak of things you have no knowledge of.
>
You must be drunk, hence the name, "Beergut". I can only imagine what you
must look like and I am sure it is not a pretty site. Reread the posters
comments and hopefully reevaluate your position. He was speaking in general
terms, idiot.
> Congratulations
>~>>goes out to the programmer on creating a good one.
>~>> As for the cracker, or actually probably not the cracker but
>~>>someone who happened by it, and reposted, You shouldn't worry.
>~>>Or really care, these people in this group are under the impression
>~>>that you can get it BIG trouble for doing that, (knock Knock it's
>the
>~>>POLICE!! ) Yeah right.
>
>The programmer has already stated that he is looking into the matter.
>I for one can't speak for what he will or will not do. Unfortunately
>you seem to want to speak for everyone.
>
Oh, I am sure that the person who posted is scared to death!!!!!!! Get
sober. That same crack is posted to many newsgroups. I have seen it at
least in three and there are many more. I am sure that Frank is not going
to starve as long as there are people like you willing to fork out hundreds
of dollars for this program. Anyways, the crack only eliminates the nag
screen. I wish it was that easy to get rid of self-righteous drunks like
you. That is something I would certainly pay for.
>
>~they could care less about you, trust me.
>
>why should anyone trust you????
>
Why shouldn't they? Judging by the two posts, it is not to hard to
determine who has brains and who just has a fat beer-gut!! I know who I
would trust.
>
>~>>They only want the big boys, and if the author decides to press
>~>>charges, 1. He has to find you. Takes time and time is money
>~>>2. File the charges, more red tape
>~>>3. win the case
>~>>4. Pay the lawyer
>~>>Who wins ? Oh yeah while he went to file charges 1000 more people
>~>>reposted that same crack to every newsgroup in the world.
>~>>Hmmm, what to do , Nothing.
>~>>Ya just can't win.
>
>You just don't get it do you. It is not about who wins or loses, it is
>about honesty and integrity, both I see you lack.
>
Well, you better wake up. You are dealing with the Internet and honesty
and integrity is something you may never find. People aren't born this
way--society makes them that way.
Come on, be "honest". You're just mad that you had to shell out a lot of
money for a program that you could have got for free, if you just knew
where to look. Wouldn't that be the cat's meow, if someone decided to post
the URL to such a site and believe me, they exist.
>~>>
>~>>So you people crying about morals, hypocrites!
>~>>I want YOU to look in the mirror and say " Man am I perfect. I have
>no
>~>>bad habits, I never cheat, speed, swear, envy, lie.I am perfect in
>~>>every way. " If you can say that then respond, I have to meet you.
>
>No one is perfect, least of all myself. Some are just a lot less
>perfect then others....get it?
>
Yes, once I read your post, it was not hard at all to determine that you
are not perfect and somehow I suspect you may never be.
(noog)
The Grand Wizard
beergut
On 6 Sep 1997 18:47:38 GMT, wizar...@aol.com (Wizard1299) wrote:
<snip>
~>Talk about small minds, you think simply because you admonish
someone for
~>what they do, it is going to stop or even more so, that they care
what you
~>think??? Wake up? They (we) don't.
Well obviously you do, otherwise why answer my post?
It's a new age where people are getting
~>what they want and doing it for free. Just look at all the sites on
the web
~>where programs in their entirety can be downloaded. Why pay when you
can
~>get something for nothing?
Spoken like a true kid. Let's equate your theory to the real world,
not just you mom and dad's house, ok. Let's assume that when you grow
up , you want to make an income. There are a few ways to accomplish
this 1) work 2) steal 3) go on welfare.
now 1) entails putting out something your work,for which you are
payed. I can surmise from your post that this is not the way of the
new order, as "we" want something for nothing.
that leaves you 2)....or 3).......and such a big decision you will
have to make when you grow up.
If it makes you feel better to shell out the
~>money, than do so. I would like to know just how many people who
subscribe
~>to this nesgroup actually used the crack? I am sure that many did.
Check
~>your newsgroups as there are many sites devoted to nothing but
providing
~>cracks to those who request them and judging by the popularity of
such
~>sites, thousands are taking advantage of this "free" information.
I did not pay for the registration of JF.shareware. I have a previous
program of JF that I use, although I may update it now. It is not that
I enjoy paying money to feel better; I happen to think my integrity is
worth more then $30 bucks.
As for how many people from this newsgroup used the crack, I can not
answer that. I can however assume with a degree of certainty that you
did. If getting rid of a 30 second wait, and the odd nag screen is
worth your integrity, then so be it.
You in your youthfull wisdom, and "your" new order, fail to see the
bigger picture. The abuse of shareware, will eventually lead to it's
demise. I for one do not want this to happen. Obviously, you care only
about you!
~>You must be drunk, hence the name, "Beergut". I can only imagine
what you
~>must look like and I am sure it is not a pretty site. Reread the
posters
~>comments and hopefully reevaluate your position. He was speaking in
general
~>terms, idiot.
Ahh when all else, such as logic, fails resort to name calling. I am
begining to see what this "New Order" of yours is like. I suppose if
my name was Leroy Brown, I could expect a much different response.
Perhaps even a cross on my front lawn, burning.....right Wizard?
As for the idiot part, my url is posted at the bottom of my letter,
feel free to see what I look like...and this I have to explain to a
Wizard??? yeah right.
~>Oh, I am sure that the person who posted is scared to death!!!!!!!
Get
~>sober. That same crack is posted to many newsgroups. I have seen it
at
~>least in three and there are many more. I am sure that Frank is not
going
~>to starve as long as there are people like you willing to fork out
hundreds
~>of dollars for this program. Anyways, the crack only eliminates the
nag
~>screen. I wish it was that easy to get rid of self-righteous drunks
like
~>you. That is something I would certainly pay for.
You....pay for anything, nonesense. You want it all for freeeeeee
remember!
Just for the record, I do not belong to any church, and I don't
consider myself a drunk. I have had that nick for over 20 years. It
comes from my days of being a union president. Someday you will also
be old enough to drink, using your own ID. For now be happy playing in
the sandbox. If ya ask nice I may show you how the dumptruck works!!
~>>
~>>~they could care less about you, trust me.
~>>
~>>why should anyone trust you????
~>>
~>Why shouldn't they? Judging by the two posts, it is not to hard to
~>determine who has brains and who just has a fat beer-gut!! I know
who I
~>would trust.
Name calling again I see....what's the matter, your concentration span
not fully developed yet? Don't worry, your mommy will take you out of
that little pink dress soon enough and you can pick out your own
clothes someday.
~>Well, you better wake up. You are dealing with the Internet and
honesty
~>and integrity is something you may never find.
Apparantely not from you at least. But I would be carefull whom you
paint with that broad brush. Other people here might just take
offense.
~>Come on, be "honest". You're just mad that you had to shell out a
lot of
~>money for a program that you could have got for free, if you just
knew
~>where to look. Wouldn't that be the cat's meow, if someone decided
to post
~>the URL to such a site and believe me, they exist.
I am far from being mad little one,,,hehe......just toying with you. I
am quite familiar with the Warez sites. I just see no need to download
a program ( for evaluation purposes only) because it is free!! I am
speaking here of the appz........I guess you are interested in the
gamez,,,,,huh?
~>Yes, once I read your post, it was not hard at all to determine that
you
~>are not perfect and somehow I suspect you may never be.
pretty hard to argue with that great revalation.
~>The Grand Wizard <--- just about says it all huh!
Are you not depriving a village of an idiot somewhere?
~>
~>>mail to bee...@ilos.net (remove * from header)
~>>
~>>http://www.ilos.net/~beergut
Mogath
In article <19970906163...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
wag...@aol.com (Wagdogs) writes:
>Subject: Re: Here's JellyFish 3.0 CRACK
>From: wag...@aol.com (Wagdogs)
>Date: 6 Sep 1997 16:38:29 GMT
>
>>You just don't get it do you. It is not about who wins or loses, it is
>>about honesty and integrity, both I see you lack.
>>
>>
>
>Bravo - thanks for posting that.
>
>Tim
>
>
>
Yeah, now with THAT said maybe we can ALL abandon this thread and talk
about BACKGAMMON. That IS the subject of this newsgroup I think.
Wizard1299
>
>~>Talk about small minds, you think simply because you admonish
>someone for
>~>what they do, it is going to stop or even more so, that they care
>what you
>~>think??? Wake up? They (we) don't.
>
>Well obviously you do, otherwise why answer my post?
>
>
It is not a matter of caring. It's simply challenging your post. You're
not fooling anyone, at least not me. I am sure that initially you thought
you would come on and be the big newsgroup savior, say the things others
might be thinking but for whatever reason, will not post. Now everyone
subscribes to your antiquated way of thinking, and I hope I have made that
more than obvious.
> It's a new age where people are getting
>~>what they want and doing it for free. Just look at all the sites on
>the web
>~>where programs in their entirety can be downloaded. Why pay when you
>can
>~>get something for nothing?
>
>Spoken like a true kid.
A little presumptuous aren't we??
Let's equate your theory to the real world,
This is the real world. Wake up! The things you promote, at least on the
Internet, are non-existent. Where have you been?? Oh I forgot, playing
Backgammon...
>not just you mom and dad's house, ok. Let's assume that when you grow
>up , you want to make an income. There are a few ways to accomplish
>this 1) work 2) steal 3) go on welfare.
Again, a rather stupid/ridiculous response, but I'll play your game and
will continue to each and every time you post.
>now 1) entails putting out something your work,for which you are
>payed. I can surmise from your post that this is not the way of the
>new order, as "we" want something for nothing.
Watching too much WCW are we?? Talk about a "new order"? What you describe
as stealing has been around since the beginning of time. Nothing new about
that, except maybe for your realization of it, if that is possible.
>that leaves you 2)....or 3).......and such a big decision you will
>have to make when you grow up.
>
When I grow up?? Again you assume too much. You are an obvious example
that just because a person physically "grows up", that they certainly may
not "grow up" mentally.
>
> If it makes you feel better to shell out the
>~>money, than do so. I would like to know just how many people who
>subscribe
>~>to this nesgroup actually used the crack? I am sure that many did.
>Check
>~>your newsgroups as there are many sites devoted to nothing but
>providing
>~>cracks to those who request them and judging by the popularity of
>such
>~>sites, thousands are taking advantage of this "free" information.
>
>I did not pay for the registration of JF.shareware.
I'm sure that a lot of people did not pay, not just you, but maybe not for
the same reasons.
I have a previous
>program of JF that I use, although I may update it now. It is not that
>I enjoy paying money to feel better; I happen to think my integrity is
>worth more then $30 bucks.
To thyne own self be true. Do what makes you happy. May I assume that when
you buy a car, do you ever try to get it cheaper or do you always pay what
they want as not to compromise your alleged integrity?? Maybe your
integrity is worth more than $30, but at what price does it cease to be so
important? Let's see, how much does the analyzer version cost...
>As for how many people from this newsgroup used the crack, I can not
>answer that. I can however assume with a degree of certainty that you
>did. If getting rid of a 30 second wait, and the odd nag screen is
>worth your integrity, then so be it.
No, as a matter of fact, I have not. 30 seconds means nothing to me as
well. However, if others want to use it, so be it. I am not going to try
and dictate what others do becuase I am smart enough to know that it will
do no good and more importantly, who am I to try and do it in the first
place anyways?
>You in your youthfull wisdom, and "your" new order, fail to see the
>bigger picture.
First of all, please do not mention this "new order" as I have not made
any reference to it. There is nothing new about what is happening here.
Again, you make mention of warez sites and I made mention of newsgroups
with similar objectives. By no means are they new as they have been around
for so long and again, judging by their popularity, they just aren't going
away. Sorry.
The abuse of shareware, will eventually lead to it's
>demise. I for one do not want this to happen. Obviously, you care only
>about you!
I can not speak for everyone as I am not a seer like you. However, I know
that for someone who may come out with a program and everyone screws around
with it, that could influence the guy's decision to develope that futher or
develope any new programs. I know this, but I really do not think it will
affect anything as when he leaves, there is always someone in the wings,
waiting. Apprently Jellyfish is extremely popular. I do not think the
creator will let the fact that someone who no longer has a nag screen
influence his decision to upgrade his program. Take yourself for example,
you said you have not spent the $29 to register the shareware version. I
think most people will not. Yet there are two other versions that are
selling, and probably selling well. I don't think what happens with one
will affect the other as the implimentation of the crack does not upgrade
one version to the next one. It just gets rid of the "nag". I would say
something but will refrain for fear of again being labeled a kid.
>~>You must be drunk, hence the name, "Beergut". I can only imagine
>what you
>~>must look like and I am sure it is not a pretty site. Reread the
>posters
>~>comments and hopefully reevaluate your position. He was speaking in
>general
>~>terms, idiot.
>
>Ahh when all else, such as logic, fails resort to name calling. I am
>begining to see what this "New Order" of yours is like. I suppose if
>my name was Leroy Brown, I could expect a much different response.
>Perhaps even a cross on my front lawn, burning.....right Wizard?
Maybe your name should be Wizard, but a much different kind. See the way
you think. I "think" it is you is much more likely to burn a cross. Look at
how unwelcome you have made me feel. the above comment is very racist of
you and indicitive of the type of beer-guzzling, in-denial, loser you
really are.
>As for the idiot part, my url is posted at the bottom of my letter,
>feel free to see what I look like...and this I have to explain to a
>Wizard??? yeah right.
No, you did not have to explain it to me. It is just a matter of
priorities, of which none include a visit to your web site. What could you
offer me except maybe a variation of MAPQUEST, only the directions your
version would provide would be to the nearest party store....
>
>~>Oh, I am sure that the person who posted is scared to death!!!!!!!
>Get
>~>sober. That same crack is posted to many newsgroups. I have seen it
>at
>~>least in three and there are many more. I am sure that Frank is not
>going
>~>to starve as long as there are people like you willing to fork out
>hundreds
>~>of dollars for this program. Anyways, the crack only eliminates the
>nag
>~>screen. I wish it was that easy to get rid of self-righteous drunks
>like
>~>you. That is something I would certainly pay for.
>
>You....pay for anything, nonesense. You want it all for freeeeeee
>remember!
>Just for the record, I do not belong to any church, and I don't
>consider myself a drunk.
I have never met one that did!
I have had that nick for over 20 years.
When you were christened with that nickname so very long ago, did you make
sure the liquor bottle was empty before they hit you over the head??
It
>comes from my days of being a union president. Someday you will also
>be old enough to drink, using your own ID. For now be happy playing in
>the sandbox. If ya ask nice I may show you how the dumptruck works!!
>
That is the beauty of a computer. You can be anything you want, except
smart. No, you can never be that.
The Grand Wizard
>
Andy
I guess the wizard says it all.
Being a programmer myself, I understand the risks involved with
producing a program a setting it free over the internet. I know that
someone will crack the password, distribute it, or do whatever.
But I still do it hoping that someone will register it. It does
happen. I register programs that I enjoy I will use. So all of this
name calling and bashing is pointless. Granted what the previous
person did was in bad taste in a group obviously not meant for that
type of post. And what Beergut did by lashing out and start calling
names in a last ditch effort to make his point heard is childish.
Trying to defend yourself and your integrity by telling us useless
information about yourself is pointless, we all got to see what type
of person you really are.
BTW, do you get this upset when you lose?
WIZARD | BEERGUT
2 0
Beergut " AWE,,, Come'on best of 5 !! "
B.F. Kroghsbo
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Ok - I made a mistake!!! - Off cause I should have deleted the crack-code
before re-posting!!!
I apologize for any harm or damage happened by this.
BUT: I'm even more sad to learn that I obviously belongs to a minority
when it comes to decent behavior in writing, attitude, honesty and so on.
Be sure that my re-posting was coming from my hart, with the intention of
bringing focus on a more decent behavior. - Even more sad was it for me to
discover that several members of this news group disagree with my stands
and even accused me for being a stupid ignorant and so on.
If it's true that the common views is pro hacking, cracking, stealing and
insulting - THEN THE COMMON VIEW HAS TO CHANGE - not my views.
I refrain to comment on further insultments on this object - And I still
believe that decent behavior makes a far more pleasant environment.
Kind regards 'bamsefar' on FIBS
beergut wrote:
> ~>
> ~>
>
> mail to bee...@ilos.net (remove * from header)
>
> http://www.ilos.net/~beergut
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<I><FONT COLOR="#CC0000">Ok - I made a mistake!!!</FONT></I> - Off cause
I should have deleted the crack-code before re-posting!!!
<BR>I apologize for any harm or damage happened by this.
<P>BUT: I'm even more sad to learn that I obviously belongs to a minority
when it comes to decent behavior in writing, attitude, honesty and so on.
<P>Be sure that my re-posting was coming from my hart, with the intention
of bringing focus on a more decent behavior. - Even more sad was it for
me to discover that several members of this news group disagree with my
stands and even accused me for being a stupid ignorant and so on.
<P>If it's true that the common views is pro hacking, cracking, stealing
and insulting - <B><FONT SIZE=+1>THEN THE COMMON VIEW HAS TO CHANGE</FONT></B>
- <U>not</U> my views.
<P>I refrain to comment on further insultments on this object - And I still
believe that decent behavior makes a far more pleasant environment.
<P>Kind regards 'bamsefar' on FIBS
<BR>
<BR>
<P>beergut wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>It absolutely amazes me that people will take the
time to compose a
<BR>message and type it out, chiding a poster who lets the crack be known,
<BR>and then in their own ignorance; keep and repost the crack
<BR>themselves!!!
<P>This is not rocket science here people. It is very easy to delete
<BR>parts of a post. Just highlight ( you can do this by dragging your
<BR>cursor from right to left over the line and then hit the button on
the
<BR>keyboard called delete......for as many lines as necessary) An easier
<BR>way is to hold the leftmouse button click, hold it and drag the cursor
<BR>down the right hand side of the message untill all the lines you wish
<BR>to remove and highlighted. You then look for the delete key on your
<BR>keyboard and push it!
<P>really I know you have good intentions, but you are doing more harm
<BR>then good, by reposting the code over and over.
<P>The beatings shall continue untill morale improves :)
<P>regards Bratter everywhere :)
<P>On Thu, 04 Sep 1997 23:09:36 +0200, "B.F. Kroghsbo"
<BR><bj...@post1.tele.dk> wrote:
<P>~>Question of beeing a thief or beeing honest.
<BR>~>
<BR>~>Look at you self in a mirror while you speek loud: I'm a thief, I'm
<BR>a
<BR>~>thief, I'm a thief - tell your friends, family and kids
- I'm a
<BR>thief.
<BR>~>
<BR>~>It's not a question of being punished, it's not a question of being
<BR>~>smart or clever to crack the code - it's only a question of
<BR>moral!!!!
<BR>~>
<BR>~>So for your own contious: Change your attitude, - and be a happier
<BR>human
<BR>~>being. - Try it - I promise you - You'll be feeling great!
<BR>~>
<BR>~>Think of it Meha - AND LEARN! - spend your time on being
a better
<BR>~>player instead of being a thief.
<BR>~>
<BR>~>Regards (bamsefar on FIBS)
<BR>~>
<BR>~>Meha10 wrote:
<BR>~>
<BR>~>> You want to register for free?
<BR>~>> NO PROBLEM. Just do this:
<P>~>> Enjoy!
<BR>~>
<BR>~>
<BR>~>
<P>mail to bee...@ilos.net (remove * from header)
<P><A HREF="http://www.ilos.net/~beergut">http://www.ilos.net/~beergut</A></BLOCKQUOTE>
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beergut
First let me congratulate you Wizard on a well thought out post. Your
attitude is much different from your previous post, that is
refreshing. I respond in kind to posts. immature, namecalling posts
such as your previous one gets answered the same way, and thus a flame
war is on. This post on the other hand, for the most part, shows
intelligence.
As much as I would like to continue this, we are in a newsgroup that
does not really support this kind of forum, and as has been stated by
someone, lets get back to BG.
I can boil this argument down to it's simplistic form. I believe
cracking and the distribution of such is wrong.
You believe as stated in your first post, why pay for something, when
you can get it for free.
This is a fundamental difference that no amount of discussion will
resolve, so further argument is pointless.
I shall now snip your post to save bandwith and for no other reason as
I enjoyed it.
regards
Beergut
beergut
On Sun, 07 Sep 1997 01:53:49 GMT, ksha...@idt.net (Andy) wrote:
<snip>
I see I should have read your post first :)
~>BTW, do you get this upset when you lose?
~>
~>WIZARD | BEERGUT
~>
~> 2 0
~>
~>Beergut " AWE,,, Come'on best of 5 !! "
Nope, debating, like BG, is after all only a game. Winning or losing a
game is not upsetting to me. Playing the game is however enjoyable.
regards
beergut
~>
~>
mail to bee...@ilos.net (remove * from header)
John S Mamoun
Andy (ksha...@idt.net) wrote:
: Secondly, Cracked and redistributed software is nothing new, IN
: FACT!!! Microsoft credits the success of their company and Windows to
: the redistributers of Windows 3.1. They said without them they would
: not be where they are today which is on top of the industry.
This is a bunch of hokum. Windows 3.1 and 95 are OPERATING SYSTEMS.
They are interfaces for other programs and therefore, if widespread,
yes, that will help to standardize the product and possibly generate
more sales in the long run, both of the operating system software
and of software that runs in the operating system. But Jellyfish
is a stand-alone program, not an operating system. Therefore,
if pirated, its profitability will only decrease. You are comparing
apples and oranges here.
Wizard1299
>
>I shall now snip your post to save bandwith and for no other reason as
>I enjoyed it.
>
>regards
>Beergut
>
>
honest, and maybe even likable. Now I feel like bad for the name-calling,
which yes, might indicate a "child-like" approach.
You have valid points to your post and in life I do not approach things
with the intent of getting them free. I guess when you pay for everything,
the lure of something free is appealing. I would hate to think that is
human nature, but indications are that it is.
I assume that you were not offended by the name calling and that is good
as it wasn't meant to hurt.
Hopefully our exchanges in the future can be more friendly and having said
that, let's end this thread and get back to the main focus of this board,
something we all love-Backgammon!
The (humbled) Grand Wizard
Andy
On 7 Sep 1997 16:19:38 GMT, js...@mail2.sas.upenn.edu (John S Mamoun)
wrote:
>Andy (ksha...@idt.net) wrote:
What is Windows really? Operating system, why yes its what "PROGRAM"
your system operates by. Apples to Apples my friend, a program is a
program. If Microsoft only made Windows to promote other software,
then why didn't they just give it away for free, instead of charging a
hundred and fifty bucks. People old enough to remember back in the
days before Windows realize that this is true. People now come to
take windows as the norm which it has came to be, that is all there
is. DOS? What's that? Oh yeah that stupid windows program. :)
beergut
On 7 Sep 1997 19:36:36 GMT, wizar...@aol.com (Wizard1299) wrote:
>I assume that you were not offended by the name calling and that is good
>as it wasn't meant to hurt.
not was mine, I am sorry also.
>
>Hopefully our exchanges in the future can be more friendly and having said
>that, let's end this thread and get back to the main focus of this board,
>something we all love-Backgammon!
I look forward to furure friendly exchanges with you :)
happy rolling
Beergut
Wai Mun Yoon
Andy wrote:
>
[snip]
> What is Windows really? Operating system, why yes its what "PROGRAM"
> your system operates by. Apples to Apples my friend, a program is a
> program. If Microsoft only made Windows to promote other software,
> then why didn't they just give it away for free, instead of charging a
> hundred and fifty bucks. People old enough to remember back in the
> days before Windows realize that this is true. People now come to
> take windows as the norm which it has came to be, that is all there
> is. DOS? What's that? Oh yeah that stupid windows program. :)
Here's one definiton:
Windows95: <win-doz-nin-te-fiv> n.
32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an
8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit
microprocessor,
written by a 2 bit company, that can't stand 1 bit of
competition.
wm
John S Mamoun
Andy (ksha...@idt.net) wrote:
: What is Windows really? Operating system, why yes its what "PROGRAM"
: your system operates by. Apples to Apples my friend, a program is a
: program. If Microsoft only made Windows to promote other software,
: then why didn't they just give it away for free, instead of charging a
: hundred and fifty bucks. People old enough to remember back in the
: days before Windows realize that this is true. People now come to
: take windows as the norm which it has came to be, that is all there
: is. DOS? What's that? Oh yeah that stupid windows program. :)
Hmmm...thinking caps on...could it be that Microsoft sold Windows
for $150 in order to make some dough? Aside from that, we were
exploring the potential upside of the problem of operating system
piracy.