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mu...@compuplus.net
Nov 16, 2016, 3:10:19 AM11/16/16
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Despite the inconvenience and distraction of it,
I'm thinking about playing some games against XG
(it's past the 14th of the month but it's still
working:) using manual dice. So, I'm looking for
the simplest BG dice roller with a visible log.
Has anyone used this:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/backgammondicer/
It looks safe on "virustotal" with only 1 report
of virus against 57 but "pestudio" also reports
some critical functions...??
Can anyone recommend a better one?
MK
I'm thinking about playing some games against XG
(it's past the 14th of the month but it's still
working:) using manual dice. So, I'm looking for
the simplest BG dice roller with a visible log.
Has anyone used this:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/backgammondicer/
It looks safe on "virustotal" with only 1 report
of virus against 57 but "pestudio" also reports
some critical functions...??
Can anyone recommend a better one?
MK
michae...@gmail.com
Nov 17, 2016, 1:54:15 PM11/17/16
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No viruses, no anything, just 3 lines of code.
http://www.2shared.com/file/dxCGAhN1/Dice_Roller.html
http://www.filedropper.com/diceroller
michae...@gmail.com
Nov 18, 2016, 11:04:40 AM11/18/16
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i just noticed you needed to have a log file for the rolls, this code will create one at C:\DiceLog.txt. Notice every time you save the log it's going to overwrite it so you better rename your previous DiceLog.txt.
I may do some more work on this little project possibly create logs using the date and time as names, change the colours to blue and red for X and O, provide the option of first roll and who plays first, as well as some options to add worlds like "Doubles =>" in the log.
http://www.filedropper.com/diceroller2
I may do some more work on this little project possibly create logs using the date and time as names, change the colours to blue and red for X and O, provide the option of first roll and who plays first, as well as some options to add worlds like "Doubles =>" in the log.
http://www.filedropper.com/diceroller2
mu...@compuplus.net
Nov 18, 2016, 9:59:14 PM11/18/16
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November 18, 2016 at 9:04:40 AM UTC-7, michae...@gmail.com wrote:
> i just noticed you needed to have a log file...
> I may do some more work on this little project...
I meant an on screen visible history but it really
doesn't matter right now because, after I posted,
I realized that it won't make sense using manual
dice against a rigged trial bot that I believe was
developed by a team of spiteful scumbags anyway...
I had said a few positive things about XG's look
and feel, etc. and might have paid for a license
but I never received an answer to my question on
whether the trial and licenses versions roll the
same dice as well as play the same way exactly.
Without knowing that, there is no need to wonder
how I would have done against it using manual dice.
But keep improving your little project. Maybe you
can offer it as an external DLL for GNU/XG later
or find some other use for it.
MK
> i just noticed you needed to have a log file...
> I may do some more work on this little project...
I meant an on screen visible history but it really
doesn't matter right now because, after I posted,
I realized that it won't make sense using manual
dice against a rigged trial bot that I believe was
developed by a team of spiteful scumbags anyway...
I had said a few positive things about XG's look
and feel, etc. and might have paid for a license
but I never received an answer to my question on
whether the trial and licenses versions roll the
same dice as well as play the same way exactly.
Without knowing that, there is no need to wonder
how I would have done against it using manual dice.
But keep improving your little project. Maybe you
can offer it as an external DLL for GNU/XG later
or find some other use for it.
MK
Tim Chow
Nov 19, 2016, 2:04:24 PM11/19/16
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On Friday, November 18, 2016 at 9:59:14 PM UTC-5, mu...@compuplus.net wrote:
> I had said a few positive things about XG's look
> and feel, etc. and might have paid for a license
> but I never received an answer to my question on
> whether the trial and licenses versions roll the
> same dice as well as play the same way exactly.
Did you contact the author directly with this question?
> I had said a few positive things about XG's look
> and feel, etc. and might have paid for a license
> but I never received an answer to my question on
> whether the trial and licenses versions roll the
> same dice as well as play the same way exactly.
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Tim Chow
mu...@compuplus.net
Nov 20, 2016, 12:12:17 AM11/20/16
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November 19, 2016 at 12:04:24 PM UTC-7, Tim Chow wrote:
>> I had said a few positive things about XG's look
>> and feel, etc. and might have paid for a license
>> but I never received an answer to my question on
>> whether the trial and licenses versions roll the
>> same dice as well as play the same way exactly.
> Did you contact the author directly with this question?
I haven't for the same reasons why I prefer communicating
>> I had said a few positive things about XG's look
>> and feel, etc. and might have paid for a license
>> but I never received an answer to my question on
>> whether the trial and licenses versions roll the
>> same dice as well as play the same way exactly.
> Did you contact the author directly with this question?
openly in forums, which is that others may also benefit
from the same questions and answers.
I'm surprised that a BG bot vendor wouldn't follow RGB
to at least read any posts and answer any questions
regarding his product.
I'm equally surprised that apparently nobody else has
asked this question in RGB before...
For people who had already decided to buy XG regardless,
not trying it first must have saved time for them.
Of the ones who tried, some may have bought it without
any questions about whether the trial version is rigged;
some may not have liked it at all to consider it any
further; some may have decided to just keep trying it
forever for free; etc...
Personally, if the answer is "yes" that both versions
are identical in all aspects, I won't bother to buy it
because I think the trial version is rigged and i don't
like it...
If I knew that the paid version is better, I would buy
it but then I would wonder why a vendor would turn off
potential customers by an inferior trial version and
lose sales because of negative impressions/experiences?
And for the ones who asked the question that I asked,
there can be no answer because there is no way to set
random dice seeds in order to compare.
That leaves playing with manual dice as the only way
to trust the bot, which is a deal breaker for me... :(
No sale.
MK
mu...@compuplus.net
Nov 20, 2016, 12:32:07 AM11/20/16
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> I may do some more work on this little project...
I have a suggestion for you. Why not create a DLL
that will work both with GNU and XG as an external
dice roller?? (I believe the calling requirements
are documented for both bots.)
I thought about catching up on C/C++ to do a few
little projects myself but after 17 years of not
coding a line, it's hard to get modtivated.. :(
A common DLL allowing users to pick the seed would
enable them to compare how different bots do using
the same dice sequences.
A scrollable log/history of rolled numbers with a
10-roll visible window would be very useful also.
And of course you add all the other good stuff like
different font colors, tags, etc...
I don't know if it would have any marketable value
but I would buy a copy for something like $10(??)
Who knows, it may just be the beginning of other
bigger projects to come...? ;)
MK
I have a suggestion for you. Why not create a DLL
that will work both with GNU and XG as an external
dice roller?? (I believe the calling requirements
are documented for both bots.)
I thought about catching up on C/C++ to do a few
little projects myself but after 17 years of not
coding a line, it's hard to get modtivated.. :(
A common DLL allowing users to pick the seed would
enable them to compare how different bots do using
the same dice sequences.
A scrollable log/history of rolled numbers with a
10-roll visible window would be very useful also.
And of course you add all the other good stuff like
different font colors, tags, etc...
I don't know if it would have any marketable value
but I would buy a copy for something like $10(??)
Who knows, it may just be the beginning of other
bigger projects to come...? ;)
MK
michae...@gmail.com
Nov 20, 2016, 6:58:38 AM11/20/16
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I think you haven't even tried my DiceRoller2. It does provide a scrollable log, and it does give you the option to save or not save the log.
DLL or exe does the same thing, VB provides the option to insert Microsoft's trusted certificates and copyrights in your programs, I haven't done it, not really care if anyone plugs this little program in GNU or XG with or without my permission.
NB. I have produced DiceRoller3 that provides the option of first roll and then decides who plays first and changes colors after that.It also provides the option to save the log multiple times as it produces files names using the computers time and date.
Tim Chow
Nov 20, 2016, 1:19:51 PM11/20/16
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On Sunday, November 20, 2016 at 12:12:17 AM UTC-5, mu...@compuplus.net wrote:
> I'm surprised that a BG bot vendor wouldn't follow RGB
> to at least read any posts and answer any questions
> regarding his product.
Rec.games.backgammon is largely dead, so there's not much incentive
> I'm surprised that a BG bot vendor wouldn't follow RGB
> to at least read any posts and answer any questions
> regarding his product.
for anyone to follow it.
When I've tried to encourage people to read rec.games.backgammon,
the most common reason I get from those who decline is that they
were turned off by the trolls here.
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Tim Chow
mu...@compuplus.net
Nov 26, 2016, 3:12:09 AM11/26/16
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November 20, 2016 at 4:58:38 AM UTC-7, michae...@gmail.com wrote:
> I think you haven't even tried my DiceRoller2.
I haven't tried it for the reasons I previously stated.
> I think you haven't even tried my DiceRoller2.
> DLL or exe does the same thing
January 1980! Like, 36 years ago... I do know a little
about DLL'd and EXE's but I don't think you are paying
attention to what I am writing... :( If you make me
feel like I am wasting my time, I will quit making an
effort to communicate with you also.
1- A common DLL that can be called as an external dice
roller by both GNU and XG would serve a good purpose!
2- It has to allow users to pick the seed (as in GNU
now) so that the sequence can be repeated many times
in each/both bots.
3- An on-screen scrollable log may have its uses even
if not absolutely needed. The minimum needed is some
immediate audio/visual indication that the DLL is called.
Don't leave a project done half-ass... :( Finish it.
MK
mu...@compuplus.net
Nov 26, 2016, 3:28:30 AM11/26/16
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November 20, 2016 at 11:19:51 AM UTC-7, Tim Chow wrote:
> Rec.games.backgammon is largely dead,
You must be joking... :))
The mere fact that you and your "ilks" are still here
is the proof that RGB is alive and well...!
> so there's not much incentive for anyone to follow it.
So, why do you?? Why do your "ilks"??
On the other hand, I can understand why some vendors of
BG related goods such as precision dice, baffle boxes,
training bots, etc. may not because the membership of
RGB is too smart to be exploited by such scams...! ;)
Every citrus fruitcake who decides to develop and peddle
a BG bot will probably find few/none buyers here... :(
Especially when we are too smart to defeat their stupid,
spiteful copy protection schemes of what thet themselves
have stolen from others to begin with...! ;)
> When I've tried to encourage people to read
> rec.games.backgammon, the most common reason I get
> from those who decline is that they were turned off
> by the trolls here.
What is your/your "ilks'" definition of "troll"...?
I have subscribed to RGB since 1996 and can't say that
I have seen many trolling posts.
What some people call "trolls" are like what some call
"terrorists", which may be "revolutionaries", "freedom
fighters", etc. for others...
If you cocksuckers don't like your fantasies being
challenged by other intelligent/logical people, then
go post in lower forums...
Why are you still here, cocksucker...???
MK
> Rec.games.backgammon is largely dead,
You must be joking... :))
The mere fact that you and your "ilks" are still here
is the proof that RGB is alive and well...!
> so there's not much incentive for anyone to follow it.
On the other hand, I can understand why some vendors of
BG related goods such as precision dice, baffle boxes,
training bots, etc. may not because the membership of
RGB is too smart to be exploited by such scams...! ;)
Every citrus fruitcake who decides to develop and peddle
a BG bot will probably find few/none buyers here... :(
Especially when we are too smart to defeat their stupid,
spiteful copy protection schemes of what thet themselves
have stolen from others to begin with...! ;)
> When I've tried to encourage people to read
> rec.games.backgammon, the most common reason I get
> from those who decline is that they were turned off
> by the trolls here.
I have subscribed to RGB since 1996 and can't say that
I have seen many trolling posts.
What some people call "trolls" are like what some call
"terrorists", which may be "revolutionaries", "freedom
fighters", etc. for others...
If you cocksuckers don't like your fantasies being
challenged by other intelligent/logical people, then
go post in lower forums...
Why are you still here, cocksucker...???
MK
Tim Chow
Nov 26, 2016, 9:50:51 AM11/26/16
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On Saturday, November 26, 2016 at 3:28:30 AM UTC-5, mu...@compuplus.net wrote:
> November 20, 2016 at 11:19:51 AM UTC-7, Tim Chow wrote:
> > so there's not much incentive for anyone to follow it.
>
> So, why do you?? Why do your "ilks"??
I don't know who you're referring to as my "ilks".
> November 20, 2016 at 11:19:51 AM UTC-7, Tim Chow wrote:
> > so there's not much incentive for anyone to follow it.
>
> So, why do you?? Why do your "ilks"??
I'm here because posting problems here helps provide me with some discipline
for working on my game. I'm not here to "follow" it, because there's very
little content besides what I myself post (and what people post in response
to that).
The other thing is that while others are turned off by the trolls, I enjoy
baiting them and watching them fly off the handle and use profanity to curse
me. It's hilarious! The only thing that might stop me is if one day one of
them decides to call me a non-scumbug, because that might hurt my feelings.
Here's a picture of a scumbug:
http://www.rola-chem.com/scumbug.html
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Tim Chow
mu...@compuplus.net
Nov 28, 2016, 5:56:12 AM11/28/16
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November 26, 2016 at 7:50:51 AM UTC-7, Tim Chow wrote:
> November 26, 2016 at 3:28:30 AM UTC-5, mu...@compuplus.net wrote:
>> November 20, 2016 at 11:19:51 AM UTC-7, Tim Chow wrote:
>>> so there's not much incentive for anyone to follow it.
>> So, why do you?? Why do your "ilks"??
> I don't know who you're referring to as my "ilks".
I am referring to people who look down on RGB but who
> November 26, 2016 at 3:28:30 AM UTC-5, mu...@compuplus.net wrote:
>> November 20, 2016 at 11:19:51 AM UTC-7, Tim Chow wrote:
>>> so there's not much incentive for anyone to follow it.
>> So, why do you?? Why do your "ilks"??
> I don't know who you're referring to as my "ilks".
are still here for the same reasons as you or for any
other/different reasons (this is why plural "ilks").
There is a Jewish, err Turkish expression for people
like you and your ilks: "the ones who eat from their
potty" or "the ones who shit in their cooking pot"...
> I'm here because posting problems here helps provide
> me with some discipline for working on my game.
what bots say. You could still work on your game doing
rollouts quietely by yourself but you have a need to
do it in RGB because you like to jack-off on your
admirers who enjoy it also... :(
> I'm not here to "follow" it, because there's very
> little content besides what I myself post (and what
> people post in response to that).
> The other thing is that while others are turned off
> by the trolls, I enjoy baiting them and watching them
> fly off the handle and use profanity to curse me.
what you are and treat you accordingly. It's a win-win
deal, so to speak... :)
> It's hilarious!
Indeed!!
> The only thing that might stop me is if one day one
> of them decides to call me a non-scumbug, because
> that might hurt my feelings.
Aww, you look soo cute... :))
MK
michae...@gmail.com
Nov 28, 2016, 7:42:48 AM11/28/16
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MK you have a personal antipathy Vs Tim that's for sure.
Now imagine a Professor (any professor) who over the years met 100s of students
who had a personal antipathy vs him or her. One more is nothing for them.
You are just that "one more". Think about it. ;-)
Now imagine a Professor (any professor) who over the years met 100s of students
who had a personal antipathy vs him or her. One more is nothing for them.
You are just that "one more". Think about it. ;-)
Tim Chow
Nov 28, 2016, 4:24:31 PM11/28/16
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On Monday, November 28, 2016 at 5:56:12 AM UTC-5, mu...@compuplus.net wrote:
> Nobody flies off the handle. Some "trolls" see you for
> what you are and treat you accordingly.
Who are you talking about?
> Nobody flies off the handle. Some "trolls" see you for
> what you are and treat you accordingly.
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Tim Chow
mu...@compuplus.net
Nov 30, 2016, 2:22:27 AM11/30/16
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November 28, 2016 at 5:42:48 AM UTC-7, michae...@gmail.com wrote:
> MK you have a personal antipathy Vs Tim that's for sure.
Now you have proven to be one of the RGB cocksuckers for sure!
> MK you have a personal antipathy Vs Tim that's for sure.
> Now imagine a Professor (any professor) who over the years...
RGB is not anybody's classroom!
Whene he said he was feeding the trolls, which is also trolling,
you would have gotten on hos case before mine in response to him.
Fuck you! And get lost!!
I can't divide my attention between so many cocksuckers... :(
MK
mu...@compuplus.net
Nov 30, 2016, 2:29:38 AM11/30/16
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November 28, 2016 at 2:24:31 PM UTC-7, Tim Chow wrote:
> November 28, 2016 at 5:56:12 AM UTC-5, mu...@compuplus.net wrote:
>> Nobody flies off the handle. Some "trolls" see you for
>> what you are and treat you accordingly.
> Who are you talking about?
As far as "some trolls who see you for what you are",
> November 28, 2016 at 5:56:12 AM UTC-5, mu...@compuplus.net wrote:
>> Nobody flies off the handle. Some "trolls" see you for
>> what you are and treat you accordingly.
> Who are you talking about?
or "some trolls who see you for something else than
what you are", or "some trolls who don't see you at
all"...??
MK
Tim Chow
Dec 4, 2016, 8:02:23 PM12/4/16
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