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MK

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Nov 3, 2021, 5:21:41 AM11/3/21
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One of the top worshipped bg bots changes the dice when you
try to play it. For example, you roll 54. You try to figure out how
to play it. You then try to click on a checker to play the 5. Oops.
You can't move. What do you mean? you say. You look at the
dice and what the hell? It shows you rolled 44. Hey, isin't a 44
better than a 54 anyway? What are you complaining about? No,
in that position, it's not. Etc...

All you have to do to win, is to name the bot and testify that you
have seen it happen. You may video capture your screen if you
want to assure yourself but it's not required. I'll take your word
for it.

And the prize is:... I don't know yet. I'm still thinking about it and
will accept suggestions while waiting for a winner. Go get it!

MK

Timothy Chow

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Nov 3, 2021, 11:53:50 PM11/3/21
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On 11/3/2021 5:21 AM, MK wrote:
> One of the top worshipped bg bots changes the dice when you
> try to play it. For example, you roll 54. You try to figure out how
> to play it. You then try to click on a checker to play the 5. Oops.
> You can't move. What do you mean? you say. You look at the
> dice and what the hell? It shows you rolled 44. Hey, isin't a 44
> better than a 54 anyway? What are you complaining about? No,
> in that position, it's not. Etc...
>
> All you have to do to win, is to name the bot and testify that you
> have seen it happen. You may video capture your screen if you
> want to assure yourself but it's not required. I'll take your word
> for it.

I've seen Peerless do this.

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Tim Chow

badgolferman

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Nov 4, 2021, 7:27:18 AM11/4/21
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Hell, that's happened to me when playing with a real board and real
dice! First impressions are not always the right ones.

MK

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Nov 4, 2021, 1:03:34 PM11/4/21
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On November 4, 2021 at 5:27:18 AM UTC-6, badgolferman wrote:

> Hell, that's happened to me when playing with a real board and real
> dice! First impressions are not always the right ones.

I had first noticed this with one bot a couple of years ago and
a few dozen times since. I wanted to make some sort of show
about it on a special occasion but I kept forgetting.

Many times I thought it was my eyesight or my byfocals but it
wasn't just with similar dot patterns like seeing a 4 as 5 or 2 as
3 but became convincing to me when a 6 turned to 5, for example
which is not easy to mistake a 6.

I should note, though, that it's not always for the worse. Rarely
the changed number works better for me. So, it may just be a bug
with the bot displaying the wrong dice icons at first.

Nevertheless, it should not happen in a bot claimed to be world
class. Thus, the contest is still on. Let me hear from you folks... ;)

MK

badgolferman

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Nov 5, 2021, 7:12:33 AM11/5/21
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Considering how much you hate GNUBG that would be my choice. I have
not experienced this anomaly with my version though.
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MK

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Nov 6, 2021, 1:25:20 AM11/6/21
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On November 5, 2021 at 5:12:33 AM UTC-6, badgolferman wrote:

> MK wrote:

>> Thus, the contest is still on. Let me hear from you folks... ;)

> Considering how much you hate GNUBG that would be my choice.
> I have not experienced this anomaly with my version though.

I don't hate Gnubg but I had/have some very negative issues
with it (and for good reasons from my stand) for the type of
bot that it is.

I resent some bot developers who pretend to be benevolent but
do nothing much to show for it. I may have no right to ask others
to develop an alpha-Gnubg but then Gnubg for me is just another
inbred bastard offspring of TD-Gammon v.2 with nothing special
going for it to set it apart.

What you may be thinking of is my total disgust for petty crook
scumbags (scumbugs to Chow;) and for the ones who associate
or collaborate with them.

BTW: I guess I have to say now that the bot changing the dice is
not Gnubg. This should narrow the field and make the contest
easier to win. :)

MK

Timothy Chow

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Nov 6, 2021, 7:43:25 AM11/6/21
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On 11/6/2021 1:25 AM, MK wrote:
> What you may be thinking of is my total disgust for petty crook
> scumbags (scumbugs to Chow;) and for the ones who associate
> or collaborate with them.

No, scumbugs to R. B. Sahi.

> BTW: I guess I have to say now that the bot changing the dice is
> not Gnubg. This should narrow the field and make the contest
> easier to win. :)

I already won the prize. I told you it was Peerless.

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Tim Chow
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Timothy Chow

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Nov 14, 2021, 7:14:12 PM11/14/21
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On 11/14/2021 5:21 AM, MK wrote:
> And if you can name the shit licking, cock sucking,
> mother fucking, low life, petty crook, liar, thief, etc.
> entity/s who contributed to the creation of that bot,
> you may win a three-days, three-nights free trip to
> Hawaii. (Airfare not included.)

Based on the adjectives, my guess is R. B. Sahi.

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Tim Chow


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Timothy Chow

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Nov 16, 2021, 8:55:15 AM11/16/21
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On 11/16/2021 1:31 AM, MK wrote:
> Does it make me a bad person to derive sadictical
> pleasure from their/your suffering?

Only if it makes me a bad person to derive "sadictical"
pleasure from provoking you to spew hatred and profanity
and linguistic errors.

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Tim Chow
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Timothy Chow

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Nov 19, 2021, 8:41:47 AM11/19/21
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On 11/18/2021 4:31 AM, MK wrote:
> You're not proficient enough in English to catch and
> correct my linguistic errors. There are people in RGB
> who have better command of English than you (and
> me) but they won't dare correct you because they
> are your ilks, butt sniffing mutts who find strength
> in numbers. As they say, dogs don't bite dogs.

[Lots of hatred and profanity and linguistic errors omitted]

I guess I must be a bad person after all!

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Tim Chow
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MK

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Nov 21, 2021, 4:39:52 AM11/21/21
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When I worked for Singer-Librascope, there was a guy
obsessed with correcting other people's "linguistic
errors" but limited to only a few certain ones such as
"I couldn't care less".

He argued that the correct exression was "I could care
less". The first time, I tried to explain to him that it was
unlikely that he meant it but that it was possible and
that in that case it would be correct to mean that one
cares to whatever degree but that one could care less.

However, if one didn't care at all, (i.e. zero, zilch, nada),
then one could not possibly care less than none. Thus,
one would say "since I don't care at all, I couldn't care
any less".

He didn't get it and kept correcting everyone who said
"I couldn't care less". Obsessed idiot like you he was.

If you have more than one adjective before a noun,
they qualify the rest of the sequence from left to
right, just like using parantheses in math. Any proposed
correct order of adjectives by type is just bullshit. It all
depends on what you want to stress more.

Big (red, truck) and red (big, truck) are both correct but
disillusioned math phd idiots can't comprehend that.
What, his worse, his ilk who can comprehend that won't
dare take a position against him.

Anyway, I was getting tired of the game and deleted a
few of my posts in this thread but as I said before, you
are sick and can't just let go of it.

With that, perhaps I shouldn't have deleted them. It's a
dirty job but someone has to piss on the cute little figgit
sick puppy and his petty crook foggot daddy. Yet I can
only do so much before I run out of piss. So, you will
need to find someone else to piss on you. :( Sorry. ;)

MK

Tim Chow

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Nov 21, 2021, 1:23:03 PM11/21/21
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On Sunday, November 21, 2021 at 4:39:52 AM UTC-5, MK wrote:
> Anyway, I was getting tired of the game and deleted a
> few of my posts in this thread but as I said before, you
> are sick and can't just let go of it.

What was this thread about again? Oh yes, about R. B. Sahi's imaginary bot Peerless. Carry on, then!

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Tim Chow

J R

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Nov 22, 2021, 12:40:05 AM11/22/21
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On Sunday, November 21, 2021 at 4:39:52 AM UTC-5, MK wrote:
Deleting posts ... the weakest of sauces.

Stick

MK

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Nov 24, 2021, 6:34:50 AM11/24/21
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On November 21, 2021 at 11:23:03 AM UTC-7, Tim Chow wrote:

> What was this thread about again? Oh yes, about
> R. B. Sahi's imaginary bot Peerless. Carry on, then!

You're just an old senile butt sniffing mutt of the pack.
I throw you a dog chew, and you Chow and Chow and
Chow on it for weeks and months. (Did I coin a new
verb here?:))

You look like you may be a cross between a Cock
Suckaniel and Chowahwah but a native English
whimperer for sure.

Don't you crack your jaw trying to Chow on that faucet
just because it looks like the Australian Peerless dog
chews made of kangaroo tendons not available here.
But I can get you some organic bully sticks instead... ;)

As to my imaginary bot. I'll rename it BBBB. Blue Big
Backgammon Bot. Kind of like IBM's Big Blue chess
bot but with a linguistic twist. :)

Ah. No, no, no. Don't Chow on it! Bad muppy!

MK
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MK

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Nov 24, 2021, 6:48:05 AM11/24/21
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On November 21, 2021 at 10:40:05 PM UTC-7, J R wrote:

> On November 21, 2021 at 4:39:52 AM UTC-5, MK wrote:

>> Anyway, I was getting tired of the game and deleted a
>> few of my posts in this thread but as I said before, you
>> are sick and can't just let go of it.

> Deleting posts ... the weakest of sauces.

Look who is talking about deleting posts!

At least I deleted my own posts, for a good reason, as
opposed to you who deleted/censored other people's
posts in your forum for bad reasons! Mr. "sauce chef
of chez maxims"...

Usenet posts are not kept forever (except by Google and
anal individuals who may archive them to reply to them
ten years later). Additionally, the poster may specify an
explicit expiration/deletion date, honored by all servers,
including Google, even if not by sick packrats of posts.

Don't worry. Chowahwah has an archive of everything I
ever posted here. And your sauce receipe looks a little
runny and bland... :(

MK
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MK

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Nov 24, 2021, 8:06:17 AM11/24/21
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On November 24, 2021 at 4:48:05 AM UTC-7, MK wrote:

> Don't worry. Chowahwah has an archive of everything I
> ever posted here. And your sauce receipe looks a little
> runny and bland... :(

Afterthoughts: Luckily for humankind, unlike Reagan's
ICBM's, installation/exacutable files of launched world
class bg bots can't be called back... :) And, gues what?
Digital data never decays. ;)

So, download and archive every possible version of
every bg bot ever released that you can find. The more
people do it, the better; in order to compare and to have
a complete archive of gamblegammon scum.

God willing, the cherub looking cocksuckers will all be
outed of their closets in due time. Keep the faith... ;)

They can run but they can't hide. We'll pluck'em out of
their bunny holes. Amen! God bless...

MK

Tim Chow

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Nov 24, 2021, 9:19:13 AM11/24/21
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I don't have an archive but your messages in this thread are priceless!
I'm quoting them in full so that we can have a record of them
even after you delete the original. Keep up the good work!

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Tim Chow

Tim Chow

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Nov 24, 2021, 9:20:07 AM11/24/21
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Quoting for archival purposes. My sadictical self is loving it!

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Tim Chow

Tim Chow

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Nov 24, 2021, 9:20:49 AM11/24/21
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God bless you, too, R. B. Sahi! Quoting for archival purposes.

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Tim Chow

Tim Chow

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Nov 24, 2021, 9:22:41 AM11/24/21
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Quoting for archival purposes. More, please! This is wonderful.

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Tim Chow

Tim Chow

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Nov 24, 2021, 9:24:55 AM11/24/21
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Obsessively quoting for archival purposes. I can't help it!

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Tim Chow

J R

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Nov 24, 2021, 11:31:40 AM11/24/21
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Oh donkey kong, posts were never censored or deleted on my forums except on the super rare occasion a valid reason came up for it to happen. The option for users to edit their own posts after posting or to delete them was toggled off for a reason. I had one user request all his posts be deleted but there was no good reason other than he was done posting. It's fine that he's done but if you start deleting posts then other posts replying to the original posts cease to make sense. To this day you can still find my middle of the night drunk ranting posts, you can find all the glorious posts that accused me of cheating, all the posts I'd have a reason to delete, all there. So for the people in the back who didn't hear it the first time and maybe it'll sink in this time for you ...

deleting posts, the weakest of sauces.

Stick

MK

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Nov 25, 2021, 4:14:22 AM11/25/21
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Good dog! Fetch stick for me. :)

But soft mouth him, okay? Don't bite or even nibble... ;)

MK

MK

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Nov 25, 2021, 4:17:57 AM11/25/21
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Oh, no! Bad dog! Sadistical dog! :(

But this stick is no bull stick. Don't Chow on him too hard. ;)

MK

MK

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Nov 25, 2021, 4:21:04 AM11/25/21
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Oops, sorry. I meant "dog bless you".

God is anagram of dog, you know.

I'm a dog believer. Are you a god believer..?? ;)

MK

MK

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Nov 25, 2021, 4:24:31 AM11/25/21
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More what? More bull sticks? :) You like Chowing on them, eh? ;)

MK

MK

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Nov 25, 2021, 4:31:54 AM11/25/21
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Don't try to help yourself. Let go. Let loose.

But how come you have nothing to add to what I said but
instead resort to digging up older bones?

And what about them cocksucking cherubs? How come you
avoid saying anything about them? You're not a cocksucking
cherub hating bigot, are you? ;)

MK

MK

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Nov 25, 2021, 4:49:52 AM11/25/21
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On November 24, 2021 at 9:31:40 AM UTC-7, J R wrote:

> On Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 6:48:05 AM UTC-5, MK wrote:

>> At least I deleted my own posts, for a good reason, as
>> opposed to you who deleted/censored other people's
>> posts in your forum for bad reasons! Mr. "sauce chef
>> of chez maxims"...

> Oh donkey kong,

What is that "oh" for? Did it hurt or did you like it?

> posts were never censored or deleted on my forums
> except on the super rare occasion a valid reason
> came up for it to happen.

You mean your resons were better than my reasons? ;)

> The option for users to edit their own posts after posting
> or to delete them was toggled off for a reason.

And what reason was that? (Which apparently all other
virtual forums and social media paltforms have missed).

> To this day you can still find my middle of the night drunk
> ranting posts,

So? I have numerous such posts as well, which I haven't
deleted and the the ones I deleted wasn't because of that.

> you can find all the glorious posts that accused me of
> cheating,

I bet they were true.

> all the posts I'd have a reason to delete, all there.

Not necessarily. Deleting accusing posts could also mean
your acknowledging them. Do you think you are the only
smart ass here? Or one of many but the smartest?? I Can
read you like a "tri-fold brochure"... :)

> So for the people in the back who didn't hear it the first
> time and maybe it'll sink in this time for you ...
> deleting posts, the weakest of sauces.

Are you old enough to remember Nixon's saying "I'm not a
crook"...? You are smarter. You would have never have said
that if you were him... :)

MK

Tim Chow

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Timothy Chow

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Nov 28, 2021, 10:17:22 AM11/28/21
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On 11/3/2021 5:21 AM, MK wrote:
> And the prize is:... I don't know yet. I'm still thinking about it and
> will accept suggestions while waiting for a winner. Go get it!

Hey, when do I get my Hawaiian trip prize for winning your
contest? You're not one of those sick gamblers who refuses
to pay up, are you? Of course not.

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Tim Chow
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