I've got a question though, what surface would people recommend? Gum,
Also what is gum?
Also if anyone else has a board site they can highly recommend that
sells and ships for around $200, I'd love it if they could point me in
the right direction.
All the best
On Jun 9, 8:52 am, Koyunbaba <m.a.nolanNOS...@NOSPAMntlworld.com>
> Hi I'm getting around to buying a board and have found what i think is a
> good range athttp://gammoncity.com/backgammon-set/GoldenAnchor/ .
The exterior is made from Canadian white Oak encased in soft imitation beige
leather padding and real leather handle (black).
The interior playing surface is made from flotex (the Speyside range) which
has been shaved leaving a soft but firm surface.
The base interior colour is light beige with the points being fern green and
dark stone. A colour scheme resembling nature.
The checkers: 15 white marblised, 15 blue marblised measuring approx 2" in
diameter and 10mm thick. Two cubes and four 1/2" precision dice.
I leave the board talk for itself.
"Koyunbaba" <m.a.nol...@NOSPAMntlworld.com> wrote in message
As to whether Crisloid boards are 'standard' at US touranments, I
would say categorically NOT. Probably 10% or fewer of the boards I
see at an ABT tournament are Crisloid. Monty also has the size wrong:
90% of the advanced and championship players use 1-3/4" checkers, not
Crisloid boards are certainly durable and have a great value for the
dollar quotient. They are by far the best board you can get for under
$200 ($140 new at http://www.flintbg.com/boutique.html , be sure to
get the 'upgraded' 21" set (which means 1-3/4" checkers and a hard
lacquer applied to the cork).
However, the vast majority of boards at ABT touranments are much
higher quality, with felt, fabric, or leather surfaces, sometimes
you'll see a few hard wooden boards, as well. Many of these boards
sell for $500 - $1000 or more. Again, 1-3/4" checkers are almost
universal; sometimes you'll see a few 2" sets. Smaller sets are
usually considered inferior and relegated to the Novice division.
My board is a Tak Morioka board which has a heavy cotton fabric
surface with painted pips. These boards are quite popular and have
beautiful colors, great lucite checkers and fine woodwork. There are
also some very nice sets from Brazil that use an inlaid felt surface.
And the old Aries boards (fabric with sewn-on leather pips) are also
considered quite nice.
Me thinks Monty hasn't been to a US tournament in a long time (or
ever?), but that's not the main point of my post.
Also have you heard about the Bulgarian board supplier that I was
considering buying from in my original post. I wonder if you could run
a more discerning eye than mine over the link. The big advantage is
that this supplier is in Europe and shipping in included in the cost.
If bought from CJ (who's lovely btw) shipping would be on top and would
be quite expensive from the states.
But the upgraded crisloid board from your link is definitely and option.
Thanks in advance.
I am the Bulgarian Supplier
Svilen Todorov (aka Svilo)
One can learn some more about surfaces from www.gammoncity.com/includes/Surface.htm
So can one from www.dice-cups.com
Congrats to Gregg for his Directorship.
Best of luck
The 1-3/4" sets ARE the standard size for tournament play. There
isn't anything intrisically better about those that 1-1/2" checkers,
except that they are bigger. Once I starting playing on a real
tournament-size board, I'm always somewhat disappointed when forced to
play on a smaller set.
You certainly could be happy with one of the 'GoldenAnchor' sets, as
they are smaller (40MM, about 1.57") than regular tournament size,
however, the price/quality ratio is probably quite good. My personal
favorites on that page are SB4019 and SB4022. If it were me and I was
committed to spending $200 or less, I'd rather get a Crisloid from
Carol Joy Cole. But I see the trade-off with the free shipping vs.
lots of shipping from US. You might ask her how much it would be, it
might be less than you think.
Her Crisloid boards have a cork surface, but her 'upgraded' version
has a nice clear lacquer laid down over the cork, and the checker
slide nicely and the cork won't chip and wear out. I'm pretty sure you
get cork-lined and lipped dice cups. I'm not sure whether a doubling
cube and/or precision dice are included.
If you want a REALLY nice set, then I can heartily recommend Tak
Morioka's sets, but the price is really high ($850).
Hey Monty. Why don't you just tell us. When was the last time you
played in a backgammon tournament? (Your complaint about 1-3/4"
checkers is telling...)
It's no surprise, but Gregg, who has attended many international
backgammon tournaments, is right; Professor Montygram, who hasn't
attended any, is wrong.
"In the US, tournament players prefer 1 3/4 in = 1.75 in (= 4.4 cm)
checkers. Only occasionally are larger or smaller sets seen at
tournaments." -- Chuck Bower, http://www.bkgm.com/rgb/rgb.cgi?view+409
At the moment I have two sets. The one I never took to tournaments has
nice Bakelite checkers, but they're only 1.5 inches in diameter. The
one I used, a standard tournament size made by Dal Negro, has 1.75
It's not that you can't play with 1.5 inch checkers. It's not that you
can't find nice sets with 1.5 inch checkers. It's just that most open
level players prefer a larger size.
Actually Chris (and bgshop) moved to UK a year or two ago :-)
Otherwise I can certainly vouch for Svilo's boards. I have one of his
King Size boards (S44 - 1-3/4" checkers) myself, and for a backgammon
board at that price, I don't think you can get much better. I agree
that the 'Golden Anchor' sets are a bit too small for tournament play
(although in Denmark we actually do see some boards of this size at
the open flights in the big tournaments), but the King Size Svilo
boards are very nice.
Thanks for the update Guerre :o). That might also explain why Chris
haven't attended at Swedish Open the last years.
I also have a Svilo board. The board is nice and pieces move so
smoothly. One problem is the playing surface is difficult to clean so
you must be cautious not to spill something on it.
I'm thinking of getting this model from svilo.
I've got to admit I hadn't considered the difficulty of cleaning a
surface before is this a problem on all boards or particularly svilo boards?
Thanks for your time
That is actually exactly the board and the colors I have. It's very
nice, and the suede fabric is a very pleasant surface to play on.
Sorry for the late reply. You should, in general, have suede garments
professionally cleaned. Cleaning the playing surface of a backgammon
board is an issue in varying degrees for all boards. Surely metal and
wooden boards are easiest. Suede must be among the hardest to clean.
I Dunno about suede but my oldest, and largest, set is felt
with rubber cushions. Like a pool table. It helps to contain
the dice, wood and steel the dice wind up cocked more often
Also inlaid points beat the crap out of stitched ones when
it comes to sliding checkers around.