On December 11, 2017 at 3:09:48 AM UTC-7, Michael wrote:
> What surprised me is the high expectation of people at
> BGO that AplhaZero (if modified to play BG) would
> actually beat XG.
From my angle, when I read this, I say "So what? Even
I can beat XG"... :)
From your angle, I would bet all I have that an AI or
even a real NeuralNet bg bot would decimate XG.
It's laughable that some people try to elevate XG to
the level of AplhaZero.
XG is not only light years away from being AI but the
only NeuralNet that there is in it is what it inherited
from the very first training of TD Gammon.
After that came all the arbitrary bullshit that got
hardcoded into Jellyfish, Snowie, Gnubg and XG, which
now make the bulk of bg bots, with a tinge of NeuralNet.
> If this ever happens I wouldn't be surprised seeing
> people throwing away XG and spending $200-400 buying
> the new bot!
Then the "XG team" (Xaviar, Cyborg, Kazoo, Suchi, etc.?)
would steal it and resell it for $50. So, don't none of
you worry... ;)
> And then what about all those people who wrote books-done
> rollouts with XG to prove something? What if A0 proves XG
> wrong on a significant %?
These are not questions of "what if" but "when"...!
Unfortunately, or fortunately, people like "AplhaZero team"
won't bother with bg which is by now nothing but a gambling
tool for a handful of mentally ill gambling scumbags (a few
thousand word wide??)
Those miserables, ranking from midget to giant :)", are so
fucking desperate for attention that everytime they see bg
mentioned in a magazine article, a movie, etc. that share
and celebrate...! :))
I guess I was over reacting to their goals/efforts by trying
to warn people to stay away from the circle of scumbags and
keep their kids away from them also. Apparently they can't
reach an audiance of more than a few anyway...
> Get ready for another 20 year Murat session :-)
Anything I can do to give you backstabbing cocksucker and
your ilks a reason to exist... ;)
MK