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That's It I'm Leaving (For GOOD)

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Ray Gordon

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Jan 15, 2001, 10:46:24 PM1/15/01
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Is everyone happy? They've finally WON.

I sit here, contemplating why I even BOTHER living on this planet, thinking I'd
be better off ending my life than tolerating this one, knowing DAMN well what
happened out here the last five years, watching people tell one big LIE after
another about me, neglecting to mention A LOT of truths which would shed proper
light on the matter, never mentioning the political motivations people have for
attacking me: gymnasts and their fans because I see the truth about USAG;
people in alt.romance because I see the truth about women; people on
rec.gambling.sports because I get in the way of their little scam games getting
money out of desperate gamblers; people on alt.seduction.fast because they
can't stand someone who sees through their hollow methods; people on
alt.hypnosis who RAPE women and rely on it being believed that all hypnosis is
self-hypnosis.

For the past six years I have watched a cabal amass against me, unchecked by
ISPs which are immune and which don't want it publicized that hackers have the
run of their system, or how fragile people's privacy really is out here, and
who cave into the volume of complaints from people with ulterior motives and
louder mouths, again with full knowledge of what REALLY goes on out here, but
with an incredible burden of time and expense to bother proving it, something
that cannot be done out here.

My desire to end my life -- one I have no plan of acting on lest anyone think
I'm in any imminent danger -- is based on ONE thing: in the NEXT life, lies
don't cut it. God knows all truths, and is not fooled by ANYONE, and yes, that
includes me. I know what's in my heart, I know what I have seen and
documented, and I know what is really going on, as do many of you. A few years
back, someone posted an ad to a newsgroup claiming to be my MOTHER and a
prostitute, and even posted her telephone number asking men to call her (she
got calls because of this and didn't appreciate it). Someone recently went to
JAIL over something similar, but of course people don't bother telling everyone
that.

A person would have to be a fool to want to exist on a planet which allows evil
to thrive like this, and to have to deal with an internet which is totally
unregulated and run by criminals, both in the ISP and user categories. I have
watched lie after lie about me told, including that I am jobless, a welfare
bum, that I have made death threats against children, that I am a pedophile, a
child molster, a hacker, and probably a dozen more lies which I can't even
remember right now. I have seen the people who have either made or witnessed
these remarks act as if my responses were unprovoked, and can think only to how
God sees both sides, knows what has happened, and is sitting in wait to pass
proper judgment on everyone involved.

I see a SICK society that thinks it can put one over on God, that there is no
retribution in the next life, no accountability, and no need to fight for
justice in this one. In the next life, I see a God who will set everyone
straight and to whom their cries will fall on deaf ears. I can already hear
people celebrating my exit (from USENET, that is), and frankly I do not care
anymore. The people who drove me off here are not the ones who bother me, but
the spectators who say "good decision" are. It is those smug little assholes
for whom God's punishment will be the worst: the ones who could have spoken up,
could have said something, but whose silence only cemented the false impression
that the liars were willing to create.

If anyone thinks censorship by harassment and bullying, as well as terrorism
and extortion, is something to celebrate, let them. All I can say is that God
is watching and throwing up at the sight of people who stand by and do nothing
when a lynching is taking place. Contrary to popular belief, I have a life, a
job, yet I do not share my successes, and recently there have been many, with
anyone, out of fear that if it were known to others that the cabal would move
its harassment of me offline to propogate its lies into my daily life. As
those who are aware of what has happened to me out here have already accepted
me, I have never felt it necessary to tell everyone I come into contact with a
pile of lies and distortions which has accumulated against me over the years,
or that any negative behavior on my part was almost entirely provoked by this
horrid campaign.

For my own well-being, I am in the process of systematically listing the names
of everyone I consider responsible for this, in order, with specific references
to their specific actions which have caused me to feel that way, and am locking
the document away in a safe place. Such is my right as this is a free country.
That people would care enough to monitor how long it took me to return here or
whether or not I did, or cite some kind of problem if I did return, is so
sickening that it defies description. I am very confident that if I were ever
to end my life, and that all truths were known to OBJECTIVE observers, that
they would not blame my decision for one moment, and would cast a very negative
eye on those who continued to harass me, defame me, threaten me, and to do so
in the most cowardly fashion possible -- online, behind anonymous posting
identities, and in a group of dozens or even hundreds ganged up against ONE
PERSON.

A world that treats me in the manner in which I have been treated and then has
the GALL to blame me when ignoring the true cause is not a world I get any joy
from living in. A world which says that I could have avoided this problem
simply by censoring my own free speech fails to acknoweldge that this creates
an even larger problem in that people are no longer free to speak their minds,
and I'm talking about simple truths like discrimination, child abuse in
gymnastics, hypnosis abuse, or that men who practice speed seduction may be
doing something wrong.

They say silence speaks volumes. Well then, listen to mine, because it's going
to get LOUDER and LOUDER as more and more time passes and you realize that I'm
really not coming back this time. Should I get any more depressed, maybe one
day I'll say that to the entire world and just leave the planet altogether, and
then people can talk about how they had nothing to do with it and how sorry
they felt.

I open this side of myself as a warning to those who think the internet allows
them to speak freely: it does not. It is nothing more than a grade-school
popularity contest where popularity trumps truth, bullying trumps justice, and
where people like to tell others what information out here is good and bad,
without regard to its intrinsic quality or that those doing the "informing" may
not know themselves what is correct.

I leave this cesspool to all of you so that you can blame someone else the next
time a flame war breaks out, or the next time someone says something I have
already said, with a stern warning that anyone who accuses someone of being me
without absolute proof and who tries to pick open this wound will be damaging
and harming me with a lie.

I watched as a book which I had sold several hundred copies of and made a
decent income from in a year, with positive reviews from those who were not
biased or who had ulterior motives, attacked, scanned and put on a website for
free in violation of my copyright, and forcing me to the point where I had to
GIVE it away, along with another book, so that people could get the information
without having to worry about whether or not the defamation they heard about me
was true. That book is read by hundreds of people a WEEK now, and influencing
their love lives in a positive way.

As I have said before when I left, there will be NO forgiveness unless those
who are withholding information which would shed proper light on this come
clean with that information to me privately (hey, everyone has my contact
information so they know what to do), but not anonymously.....don't tell me
you're on my side or tell me anything you aren't willing to tell the whole
world. I already know the truth and hearing it from someone who wants to clear
their conscience and tell me but who lacks the courage to go public is no
friend of mine and needs to find another way to feel better about themselves.
Failure to speak up might just cause a suicide sometime down the road, you
never know......as of now I plod along, but barely.......if you want that on
your conscience, be my guest, but hey who has a conscience anymore.

Blame me all you want, frankly I do not care. God has the truth, I have it,
and some of you have it. When people are done attacking this post that truth
will surface somehow, someway. Again, it's not my concern. I've fought this
crap longer than any reasonable human being can be expected to, and for my
efforts I have had nothing but people attempting to destroy me.

If it's too much to ask to rebuild the good parts of my life in peace, I can
exit the planet at any time. I'd suggest no one fuck with me from this point
forward.


Ray Gordon, Net LEGEND
http://www.cybersheet.com (The Caveman News!)
http://www.cybersheet.com/sportpix.html (Revolution)
http://www.cybersheet.com/hypno/index.html (Hypnosis)
http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html (Seduction Library)


Br...@compusmart.ab.ca

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Jan 16, 2001, 12:39:41 AM1/16/01
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Ray Gordon (Net Legend), the schizophrenic psycho with an obvious
persecution complex and suffering from paranoid delusions wrote:

Re: That's It I'm Leaving (For GOOD)

[the rest of his paranoid ranting was snipped for brevity]


Anyway boys, I'm opening the line at -4750 ;-)

Gone from RGS for good (includes aliases)............ +4300
He is NOT gone for good (includes aliases)............ -4750

I fully expect the line on "NOT gone for good" to rise
so get your picks in fast (send email) ;-)

ItsHCapper98

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Jan 16, 2001, 2:40:51 AM1/16/01
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Wow. I only hope I have the time to respond to this post properly. It may
take some time, but it's definitely coming.

HaskellHats

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Jan 16, 2001, 6:18:24 AM1/16/01
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>Wow. I only hope I have the time to respond to this post properly. It may
>take some time, but it's definitely coming.

What CAN you say? He hit the nail right on the fucking head. And don't take
this as a personal insult, because you are maybe 0.0001% of the crap he's
recieved over the years.

HaskellHats

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Jan 16, 2001, 6:22:01 AM1/16/01
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Don't worry Ray... I ain't going anywhere. (and I have a feeling you'll return
eventually) But I must say, I know how it feels... I've been victimized the
same way (which was what forced me to post my flames). A lot of my
victimization in fact was due to the fact that I defended you on this
newsgroup, but that's OK, I can take it.

Br...@compusmart.ab.ca

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Jan 16, 2001, 6:26:15 AM1/16/01
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==========
Well, you outta know....
So how come you're still here, again?

Gary Burns

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Jan 16, 2001, 11:43:01 AM1/16/01
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I would like to reply, but there is no return address.

HaskellHats

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Jan 16, 2001, 3:06:14 PM1/16/01
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>I would like to reply, but there is no return address.

go to his web site (i can't remember the address right now), and there's a link
somewhere where you can email him

winn...@hotmail.com

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Jan 16, 2001, 3:55:25 PM1/16/01
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Atlanta Ranger

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Jan 16, 2001, 4:37:43 PM1/16/01
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<Br...@compusmart.ab.ca> wrote in message
news:3A63DE...@compusmart.ab.ca...

> Anyway boys, I'm opening the line at -4750 ;-)
>
> Gone from RGS for good (includes aliases)............ +4300
> He is NOT gone for good (includes aliases)............ -4750

I normally don't like huge chalks, but I'll take four dimes on NOT.


SUPER DUPER POOPER SCOOPER

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Jan 16, 2001, 7:52:27 PM1/16/01
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Ray, can't you just start your own sports gambling group? Just get a
whole bunch of email names and pretend. There are times when I get
kinda tired of this group. I wish there were more groups to check out
when this one gets boring. Just do it, dude. This group belongs to the
people that started it. Those are the rules, dude.
Don't fight a system that let's make your own system. I have generated
a couple grand in sales from this group form private email sales. If I
had my own group and willing to work it, I would be making some good
bank. I like this group. This group
likes me. There was nothing stopping you from making friends first. I
know you and the Hcapper don't get along, but the Hcapper really is a
good guy. I like his style. Just make friends, and may have a chance
to make some cash without the trash.

HaskellHats

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Jan 17, 2001, 6:22:14 AM1/17/01
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jesse... ray did go about it all wrong... he should just do what i'm doing now,
just post what you're going to post anyway, and just put the assholes in the
filter and let them spout off their garbage all they want, and let your picks
speak for themselves. makes for a stress free experience for me here, and i
don't waste 3 hours a day responding to useless nonsense.

SUPER DUPER POOPER SCOOPER

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Jan 17, 2001, 12:48:25 PM1/17/01
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Genius has a new name: HaskellHats!

ItsHCapper98

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Jan 19, 2001, 5:33:44 PM1/19/01
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I knew it was just a matter of time before these two "found" each other.


Bubba

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Jan 19, 2001, 7:13:17 PM1/19/01
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In article <20010119173344...@ng-md1.aol.com>,

itshca...@aol.com (ItsHCapper98) wrote:
> I knew it was just a matter of time before these two "found" each
>other.
>
>

BWAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!!

--

...a new and improved flame-free Bubba for 2001

Kaz Toast

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Jan 20, 2001, 10:45:55 PM1/20/01
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