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Why liberals and conservatives will never agree on anything

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Bill Vanek

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Oct 20, 2021, 9:53:53 PM10/20/21
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It’s easy. They don’t argue with what you say. They instead know what you
really meant, and argue with that. And what they know you meant is *always*
something they passionately disagree with. So Dutch can call Brian an
anti-vaxxer based not on what he said, but on what Dutch knows he really
meant. And when I post the simple, direct statement that there are studies
claiming that most studies are bogus, Tim argues with me over whether most
studies are bogus, which is not what I claimed at all. So don’t ever claim
that there are research papers claiming that Hitler wasn’t all that bad,
because Tim will then claim that you are an apologist for Hitler.

It really is mental illness.

Dutch

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Oct 21, 2021, 12:14:36 AM10/21/21
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On 2021-10-20 6:53 p.m., Bill Vanek wrote:
>> And when I post the simple, direct statement that there are studies
> claiming that most studies are bogus, Tim argues with me over whether most
> studies are bogus, which is not what I claimed at all.

Why did you post that article?

BTSinAustin

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Oct 21, 2021, 11:45:02 AM10/21/21
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The reason is that we have been sold a ton of bullshit. The divide and conquer plan is alive and better than ever. No one can even debate anymore. Ask a question and you're an anti-vaxxer or a socialist depending on which side of the 50-yard line you are on. All people can do is spout talking points. Sad but true.

VegasJerry

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Oct 21, 2021, 2:12:48 PM10/21/21
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On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 6:53:53 PM UTC-7, Bill Vanek wrote:
> It’s easy. They don’t argue with what you say.

Because you can't. We prove you have bad information, and you
can't respond or answer, you Run & Hide and start a new thread.

//NEXT Troll//








VegasJerry

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Oct 21, 2021, 2:16:11 PM10/21/21
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On Thursday, October 21, 2021 at 8:45:02 AM UTC-7, BTSinAustin wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 9:53:53 PM UTC-4, Bill Vanek wrote:
> > It’s easy. They don’t argue with what you say. They instead know what you
> > really meant, and argue with that. And what they know you meant is *always*
> > something they passionately disagree with. So Dutch can call Brian an
> > anti-vaxxer based not on what he said, but on what Dutch knows he really
> > meant. And when I post the simple, direct statement that there are studies
> > claiming that most studies are bogus, Tim argues with me over whether most
> > studies are bogus, which is not what I claimed at all. So don’t ever claim
> > that there are research papers claiming that Hitler wasn’t all that bad,
> > because Tim will then claim that you are an apologist for Hitler.
> >
> > It really is mental illness.

> The reason is that we have been sold a ton of bullshit.

What bullshit?

> The divide and conquer plan is alive and better than ever.

Yea, the Congressional Republicans simply vote no.
(And in confidence admit their fear of trump).

> No one can even debate anymore.

I show that every day be trying to, but don't get responses...

Dutch

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Oct 21, 2021, 5:00:17 PM10/21/21
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If you stick to the facts you can get through it. The fact about the
2020 US election is Biden won, Trump lost, period. Everything else is
noise. The facts about vaccines are that fully vaccinated people are
nearly 100% protected against serious illness and death. If everybody
got vaccinated we could return to normal immediately. Everything else is
noise. Where am I wrong?

BTSinAustin

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Oct 21, 2021, 5:09:29 PM10/21/21
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On Thursday, October 21, 2021 at 5:00:17 PM UTC-4, Dutch wrote:
> On 2021-10-21 8:44 a.m., BTSinAustin wrote:
> > On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 9:53:53 PM UTC-4, Bill Vanek wrote:
> >> It’s easy. They don’t argue with what you say. They instead know what you
> >> really meant, and argue with that. And what they know you meant is *always*
> >> something they passionately disagree with. So Dutch can call Brian an
> >> anti-vaxxer based not on what he said, but on what Dutch knows he really
> >> meant. And when I post the simple, direct statement that there are studies
> >> claiming that most studies are bogus, Tim argues with me over whether most
> >> studies are bogus, which is not what I claimed at all. So don’t ever claim
> >> that there are research papers claiming that Hitler wasn’t all that bad,
> >> because Tim will then claim that you are an apologist for Hitler.
> >>
> >> It really is mental illness.
> >
> >
> > The reason is that we have been sold a ton of bullshit. The divide and conquer plan is alive and better than ever. No one can even debate anymore. Ask a question and you're an anti-vaxxer or a socialist depending on which side of the 50-yard line you are on. All people can do is spout talking points. Sad but true.

> If you stick to the facts you can get through it. The fact about the
> 2020 US election is Biden won, Trump lost, period. Everything else is
> noise.

True

The facts about vaccines are that fully vaccinated people are
> nearly 100% protected against serious illness and death. If everybody
> got vaccinated we could return to normal immediately. Everything else is
> noise.

Maybe and you don't know either. What is the next strain?


Dutch

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Oct 21, 2021, 5:49:19 PM10/21/21
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There are no guarantees, but the best hope we have to prevent mutations
from emerging is also the vaccine. I just got an email from one of my
poker buddies who wants me to resume hosting home games. It kills me to
say I'm not ready, and that is in large part due to the fact that Canada
has its share of knuckleheads.


VegasJerry

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Oct 21, 2021, 7:52:29 PM10/21/21
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Gee, talk about discussing, debate and answering; it seems you cut an important
part of his statement:

> Where am I wrong?

Care to answer?
Care to discuss?
Care to respond?



Tim Norfolk

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Oct 21, 2021, 8:23:29 PM10/21/21
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On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 9:53:53 PM UTC-4, Bill Vanek wrote:
Might as well be here.

I actually asked why you had talked about "you can find studies which say anything..." when I referred to a specific set of studies on a specific condition?

If you believe that those numbers are incorrect, you should be able to show it. Otherwise, you are simply trying to distract.

BTSinAustin

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Oct 22, 2021, 11:43:04 AM10/22/21
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Only you could have missed this Jerry

VegasJerry

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Oct 22, 2021, 3:58:31 PM10/22/21
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Knew you wouldn't..




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