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BillB

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Sep 16, 2022, 4:11:44 PM9/16/22
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Is anyone else as sickened as I am by how DeSantis and Abbott are using the asylum seekers as political pawns and practical joke props? I haven't been this angered and nauseated by MAGA politicians in a long time.

As an eternal optimist I am always looking for a silver lining, and the only one I see here is that this is a PR nightmare for the Republicans among normal people, and it's reinforcing for everyone their justified reputation for being hateful and cruel to anyone with too much melanin (unless they sell out to their racist agenda).

Splashie

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Sep 16, 2022, 4:42:33 PM9/16/22
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On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 1:11:44 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
> Is anyone else as sickened as I am by how DeSantis and Abbott are using the asylum seekers as political pawns and practical joke props? I haven't been this angered and nauseated by MAGA politicians in a long time.
>
> As an eternal optimist I am always looking for a silver lining, and the only one I see here is that this is a PR nightmare for the Republicans among normal people, and it's reinforcing for everyone their justified reputation for being hateful and cruel to anyone with too much melanin (unless they sell out to their racist agenda).

Abbott's stunt is bad, but DeSantis' is 1000x worse. He's spending Florida's tax dollars to send migrants from Texas to other states, all to raise his own political profile for the MAGA base in the hopes that Trump is indicted or dead by 2024, clearing the path for him to run for President. Florida literally does not share a border with any other country except Alabama.

Michael

BillB

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Sep 16, 2022, 4:52:25 PM9/16/22
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And sending them to Martha's Vineyard? Why? Is this all a joke to him? And now that they've moved them to Boston or wherever after half the town turned out to welcome them and do whatever they could to help, the new MAGA narrative is, "See? The rich liberals are just as racist as we are!" (or words to that effect).

jack roth

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Sep 16, 2022, 5:31:29 PM9/16/22
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On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 1:11:44 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
> Is anyone else as sickened as I am by how DeSantis and Abbott are using the asylum seekers as political pawns and practical joke props? I haven't been this angered and nauseated by MAGA politicians in a long time.
>
> As an eternal optimist I am always looking for a silver lining, and the only one I see here is that this is a PR nightmare for the Republicans among normal people, and it's reinforcing for everyone their justified reputation for being hateful and cruel to anyone with too much melanin (unless they sell out to their racist agenda).
I think the worst PR is the bleeding hearts socialists on Martha's Vineyard who themselves just deported those migrants.

risky biz

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Sep 16, 2022, 5:36:12 PM9/16/22
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On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 1:42:33 PM UTC-7, Splashie wrote:
~ Florida literally does not share a border with any other country except Alabama.
>
> Michael


Georgians are going to be upset that you didn't promote them to country status.

And I'm not rationalizing DeSantis' pranks but illegal immigrants arriving by boat don't count? Florida is inundated with illegal Haitian migrants.

BillB

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Sep 16, 2022, 5:51:48 PM9/16/22
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I said normal people. The migrants are safe now. They are in a blue state. The vast majority end up in blue cities anyway. So why didn't DeSantis simply call up some of the blue state politicians so they could be transferred in a professional an orderly manner with minimal trauma to these future citizens? Elizabeth Warren is already on record saying she'll happily take all they can send. Immigrants are money. You haven't noticed that there is a very strong correlation between notorious bigotry and a state being broke and sponging off the federal government? At least 80% of the nation's wealth comes from blue states and cities, and a lot of that prosperity came from embracing immigrants, strictly legal or otherwise.

VegasJerry

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Sep 16, 2022, 6:40:50 PM9/16/22
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On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 1:11:44 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
> Is anyone else as sickened as I am by how DeSantis and Abbott are using the asylum seekers as political pawns and practical joke props? I haven't been this angered and nauseated by MAGA politicians in a long time.
>
> As an eternal optimist I am always looking for a silver lining, and the only one I see here is that this is a PR nightmare for the Republicans among normal people, and it's reinforcing for everyone their justified reputation for being hateful and cruel to anyone with too much melanin (unless they sell out to their racist agenda).
.

It appears the Justice Department saw my posting and is considering investigating for (as I suggested):
.

Child trafficking.
Kidnapping.
Interstate transporting of labor.
(And all the rest of the shit I pointed out)..



VegasJerry

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Sep 16, 2022, 6:46:14 PM9/16/22
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On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 2:31:29 PM UTC-7, jackden...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 1:11:44 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
> > Is anyone else as sickened as I am by how DeSantis and Abbott are using the asylum seekers as political pawns and practical joke props? I haven't been this angered and nauseated by MAGA politicians in a long time.
> >
> > As an eternal optimist I am always looking for a silver lining, and the only one I see here is that this is a PR nightmare for the Republicans among normal people, and it's reinforcing for everyone their justified reputation for being hateful and cruel to anyone with too much melanin (unless they sell out to their racist agenda).
.

> I think..
.
(First sign of error...)
.

> ... the worst PR is the bleeding hearts socialists
.

"Socialists?" Give us an explanation of socialists (never mind 'bleeding hearts).
.

> on Martha's Vineyard who themselves just deported those migrants.

Heh, "Worst PR!" Apparently worse than Trafficking Minors?

da pickle

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Sep 17, 2022, 12:32:45 PM9/17/22
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Correct, as always ... they should all be sent to where they will be
welcome ... Boston ... and of course, Vancouver.

da pickle

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Sep 17, 2022, 12:33:57 PM9/17/22
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Right again ... and Canada should be sending buses too.

VegasJerry

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Sep 17, 2022, 1:27:17 PM9/17/22
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On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 3:46:14 PM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:
> On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 2:31:29 PM UTC-7, jackden...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 1:11:44 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
> > > Is anyone else as sickened as I am by how DeSantis and Abbott are using the asylum seekers as political pawns and practical joke props? I haven't been this angered and nauseated by MAGA politicians in a long time.
> > >
> > > As an eternal optimist I am always looking for a silver lining, and the only one I see here is that this is a PR nightmare for the Republicans among normal people, and it's reinforcing for everyone their justified reputation for being hateful and cruel to anyone with too much melanin (unless they sell out to their racist agenda).
> .
>
> > I think..
> .
> (First sign of error...)
> .
>
> > ... the worst PR is the bleeding hearts socialists
> .
>
> "Socialists?" Give us an explanation of socialists (never mind 'bleeding hearts).
.

*** KNEW YOU COULDN'T ***
*** Knew YOU'D RUN ***
.

//NEXT//




> .
> > on Martha's Vineyard who themselves just deported those migrants.
.

And I proved you wrong here, too.
.

da pickle

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Sep 18, 2022, 11:51:33 AM9/18/22
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Oops ...

da pickle

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Sep 18, 2022, 11:52:08 AM9/18/22
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Oops

BillB

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Sep 18, 2022, 11:54:25 AM9/18/22
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"Census 2016 shows that Vancouver had a total population of 631,486 persons. Its immigrant residents represented 42.5% (262,765) of the total population, slightly higher than 40.8% for the Metro Vancouver region."

da pickle

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Sep 18, 2022, 12:35:40 PM9/18/22
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What is the percentage of "illegal" immigrants?

risky biz

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Sep 18, 2022, 12:49:47 PM9/18/22
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~ "Census 2016 shows that Vancouver had a total population of 631,486 persons. Its immigrant residents represented 42.5% (262,765) of the total population, slightly higher than 40.8% for the Metro Vancouver region."


40% Asian/East Indian. <1% black.

Must be a random result. Blabbermouth can 'explain'. 'It's too cold, etc.' LOLOL.

BillB

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Sep 18, 2022, 12:51:30 PM9/18/22
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Not sure. I don't think there are that many "illegal" immigrants because we just let them in legally. I believe Canada lets in more documented immigrants per capita than US does for documented and undocumented combined. The US's xenophobic immigration policies are the reason it has a problem with people trying to circumvent the legal process. Canada loves immigrants. We can barely get enough of them (hence the statistic I just showed you). What percentage of your city are immigrants?

BillB

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Sep 18, 2022, 12:55:13 PM9/18/22
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We have no way of controlling who wants to come here. All are welcome if they can meet some very basic criteria on our point system, or if they claim refugee status. For some reason most black immigrants want to move to Toronto. There's no accounting for bad taste.

Mossingen

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Sep 20, 2022, 3:05:08 AM9/20/22
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"BillB" wrote in message
news:dc91cc25-c475-4e6f...@googlegroups.com...
___________


It is as brilliant a maneuver as it is politically savvy. The political
driving force keeping the border open comes from west coast whites who have
no idea of the consequences experienced in border towns.

I only wish Trump would have thought to do that.

BillB

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Sep 20, 2022, 3:19:26 AM9/20/22
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I was just wondering earlier this evening where you've been. Don't be a stranger.

VegasJerry

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Sep 20, 2022, 1:37:35 PM9/20/22
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On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 12:05:08 AM UTC-7, Mossingen wrote:
> "BillB" wrote in message
> news:dc91cc25-c475-4e6f...@googlegroups.com...
> Is anyone else as sickened as I am by how DeSantis and Abbott are using the
> asylum seekers as political pawns and practical joke props? I haven't been
> this angered and nauseated by MAGA politicians in a long time.
>
> As an eternal optimist I am always looking for a silver lining, and the only
> one I see here is that this is a PR nightmare for the Republicans among
> normal people, and it's reinforcing for everyone their justified reputation
> for being hateful and cruel to anyone with too much melanin (unless they
> sell out to their racist agenda).
> ___________
>
>
> It is as brilliant a maneuver as it is politically savvy. The political
> driving force keeping the border open…
.

It is as ignorant a statement as is politically possible.
The border is not open, and you can’t show that it is.
.

Now Run & Hide in embarrassment and ignorance for another month.
.

//NEXT//
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.
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Splashie

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Sep 20, 2022, 10:31:46 PM9/20/22
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On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 1:11:44 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
> Is anyone else as sickened as I am by how DeSantis and Abbott are using the asylum seekers as political pawns and practical joke props? I haven't been this angered and nauseated by MAGA politicians in a long time.
>
> As an eternal optimist I am always looking for a silver lining, and the only one I see here is that this is a PR nightmare for the Republicans among normal people, and it's reinforcing for everyone their justified reputation for being hateful and cruel to anyone with too much melanin (unless they sell out to their racist agenda).

This is too funny:
https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1572285073814061057

The Recount
@therecount
Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL), when asked why the state paid to transport migrants from Texas instead of from Florida:

“The problem is we’re not seeing mass movements of them into Florida … It’s just coming in onesie-twosies.”
DeSantis on Why Send Migrants from Texas Instead of from Florida
11:02 AM · Sep 20, 2022
·Twitter Media Studio

Michael

BillB

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Sep 20, 2022, 11:44:12 PM9/20/22
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That is a problem when you are trying to keep the MAGAs scared and angry. They've adopted the Fox News business model.

da pickle

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Sep 21, 2022, 3:16:13 PM9/21/22
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Deeper and deeper ... even cruise passengers must have a lot of proof
before they can even go ashore in "free" Canada.




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BillB

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Sep 21, 2022, 3:28:37 PM9/21/22
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Sorry, you aren't "free" to infect us. Try one of the red states. They'll let you infect anyone you want (and have the death rates to prove it!).

da pickle

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Sep 21, 2022, 3:49:19 PM9/21/22
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> Sorry, you aren't "free" to infect us. Try one of the red states. They'll let you infect anyone you want (and have the death rates to prove it!).

WOW ... so swift a dodge ... the professional slips and slides to a
totally different subject and skates away.

da pickle

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Sep 21, 2022, 3:54:02 PM9/21/22
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Sure you do ... sure you do ... a bus load of Mexicans (et al.) arrive
from Florida at your border and they all walk into the perfect life they
wanted. [Each and every one of the arrivals has a written affidavit
that they desire permanent residence in Canada.]

The trains will be arriving soon, so additional thought about what you
mean by "legally" would be appreciated.

BillB

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Sep 21, 2022, 3:57:59 PM9/21/22
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Uh, what "dodge?"

BillB

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Sep 21, 2022, 4:09:09 PM9/21/22
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> that they desire permanent re, give them a much better chance to enter legally. sidence in Canada.]
>
> The trains will be arriving soon, so additional thought about what you
> mean by "legally" would be appreciated.
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No, there is a process that has to be followed. The point is that people are much more willing to work with that process because their chances of success are 3x higher than they are in the US. Like I said, Canada takes in legally per capita what the US takes in legally and illegally combined, which right-wing Americans call a "crisis." If you want to dissuade people from entering illegally, give them a much better chance of entering legally. That way, those who are excluded for valid reasons (i.e. not racism and/or xenophobia) will be much easier to catch if they try to enter illegally. As usual, the answer is simple: be more like Canada.

risky biz

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Sep 21, 2022, 4:28:45 PM9/21/22
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On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 12:05:08 AM UTC-7, Mossingen wrote:
> "BillB" wrote in message
> news:dc91cc25-c475-4e6f...@googlegroups.com...
> Is anyone else as sickened as I am by how DeSantis and Abbott are using the
> asylum seekers as political pawns and practical joke props? I haven't been
> this angered and nauseated by MAGA politicians in a long time.
>
> As an eternal optimist I am always looking for a silver lining, and the only
> one I see here is that this is a PR nightmare for the Republicans among
> normal people, and it's reinforcing for everyone their justified reputation
> for being hateful and cruel to anyone with too much melanin (unless they
> sell out to their racist agenda).
> ___________
>
>


~ It is as brilliant a maneuver as it is politically savvy. The political
> driving force keeping the border open comes from west coast whites who have
> no idea of the consequences experienced in border towns.


Do you have any clue at all how many illegal Mexicans there are in California? Serious question.



~ I only wish Trump would have thought to do that.


Where in the world did you get the idea that Trump is capable of thought? Take a look at how his out-of-control mouth is puttinng a rope around his own neck right now.

risky biz

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Sep 21, 2022, 4:30:21 PM9/21/22
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~ Not sure. I don't think there are that many "illegal" immigrants because we just let them in legally. I believe Canada lets in more documented immigrants per capita than US does for documented and undocumented combined. The US's xenophobic immigration policies are the reason it has a problem with people trying to circumvent the legal process. Canada loves immigrants. We can barely get enough of them (hence the statistic I just showed you). What percentage of your city are immigrants?


Because someone has to pay for the exorbitant cost of Free🧀Gov'tCheeseBoy in Vancouver.

risky biz

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Sep 21, 2022, 4:31:55 PM9/21/22
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~ All are welcome if they can meet some very basic criteria on our point system


The 'very basic criteria' that keep out blacks.


~ , or if they claim refugee status. For some reason most black immigrants want to move to Toronto. There's no accounting for bad taste.


What? All three of them?

BillB

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Sep 21, 2022, 4:32:28 PM9/21/22
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I don't get any free government cheese. Projecting again? lol

risky biz

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Sep 21, 2022, 4:39:27 PM9/21/22
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~ I don't get any free government cheese. Projecting again? lol


Not counting your expensive 'healthcare team' and your disability income? Funny math.

BillB

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Sep 21, 2022, 4:40:10 PM9/21/22
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We already established that you came up with NOTHING to support that moronic claim.

> ~ , or if they claim refugee status. For some reason most black immigrants want to move to Toronto. There's no accounting for bad taste.
>
>
> What? All three of them?

Toronto Demographics
White: 50.2% East Asian: 12.7% (10.8% Chinese, 1.4% Korean, 0.5% Japanese) South Asian: 12.3% Black: 8.5%

risky biz

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Sep 21, 2022, 4:48:28 PM9/21/22
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That's meaningless. The great majority of blacks in Canada are descendants of blacks that arrived almost 100 years before the U.S. 'civil war' and long, long before 'Canada' even became an independent state in 1982.

risky biz

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Sep 21, 2022, 4:58:13 PM9/21/22
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On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 1:40:10 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
~ Toronto Demographics
> White: 50.2% East Asian: 12.7% (10.8% Chinese, 1.4% Korean, 0.5% Japanese) South Asian: 12.3% Black: 8.5%


Canada is about 3.5% black. Vancouver (the 'Hate Crime Capital of North America') is less than 1% black.

Canada is right next door to a country that is about 12.5% black. The U.S.A.

The ENTIRE population of Canada is only about 90% of the number of blacks in the U.S.A.

BillB

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Sep 21, 2022, 5:37:45 PM9/21/22
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12.5%?? How did that happen?

risky biz

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Sep 21, 2022, 8:38:51 PM9/21/22
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~ 12.5%?? How did that happen?


That's what Wikipedia has now which differs from what they have had in the past. Not a biggy.

da pickle

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Sep 22, 2022, 9:53:48 AM9/22/22
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Fake "person" ... fake "dodge" ... the bus just arrived from Florida ...
all the immigrants want to be in Canada ... not going to happen.


da pickle

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Sep 22, 2022, 10:39:38 AM9/22/22
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On 9/21/2022 3:09 PM, BillB wrote:
Oh, there is a process ... just because they get to the border, Canada
just does not let them in and let them go where they might like to go.
There is a process. If the bus had taken the wishful candidates to the
Canada border, would the "process" have allowed them to stay in Canada?

BillB

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Sep 22, 2022, 10:54:06 AM9/22/22
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No, we are already letting in people by the normal process equal to a rate US right-wingers are calling a "crisis" Plus we can't just allow racist and bigoted American leaders to kidnap and ship all their unwanted brown people to Canada. That would be bad policy. You have to arrive organically under your own free will. We can't aid and abet kidnapping and human trafficking. It would only encourage more racist and felonious behavior by right-wing racist leaders.

> There is a process. If the bus had taken the wishful candidates to the
> Canada border, would the "process" have allowed them to stay in Canada?

They wouldn't get into Canada. It's the same way we don't let single parents bring children into Canada without written permission from the other parent or court custody documents. Kidnapping is a serious crime, even if it is kidnapping by inveigling.

Why are right-wingers always so eager to pawn off their responsibilities on normal people?

da pickle

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Sep 22, 2022, 12:03:14 PM9/22/22
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Poor dodge ... those guys and gals just go off a bus from south Texas
... no parents involved at all, just folks trying to immigrate into
Canada. No right wing Americans involved at all ... just folks from
foreign lands seeking shelter.

[Oh, and the one "single mother with her baby" had her husband killed by
drug dealers in her country from which she is fleeing. She gets a free
ride.]

BillB

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Sep 22, 2022, 4:41:03 PM9/22/22
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Don't you remember when the RCMP was helping asylees carry their luggage across an illegal border crossing? However, if they come on a bus from the US to an official Canadian border crossing then Canada cannot let them in. The US persuaded Canada to sign a reciprocal agreement to not let them in. They have to claim asylum in the first country they enter. The loophole is if they cross illegally Canada can arrest them for the crossing, take them into custody, and then let them seek asylum, at which point they are released, helped to find housing, and given a work permit.

But what does any of this have to do with the sick games DeSantis and Abbott are playing with these poor people's lives?

risky biz

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Sep 22, 2022, 6:21:45 PM9/22/22
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On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 1:41:03 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
> On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 9:03:14 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
> > On 9/22/2022 9:54 AM, BillB wrote:
> > > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 7:39:38 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
> >
> > >> Oh, there is a process ... just because they get to the border, Canada
> > >> just does not let them in and let them go where they might like to go.
> > >
> > > No, we are already letting in people by the normal process equal to a rate US right-wingers are calling a "crisis" Plus we can't just allow racist and bigoted American leaders to kidnap and ship all their unwanted brown people to Canada. That would be bad policy. You have to arrive organically under your own free will. We can't aid and abet kidnapping and human trafficking. It would only encourage more racist and felonious behavior by right-wing racist leaders.
> > >
> > >> There is a process. If the bus had taken the wishful candidates to the
> > >> Canada border, would the "process" have allowed them to stay in Canada?
> > >
> > > They wouldn't get into Canada. It's the same way we don't let single parents bring children into Canada without written permission from the other parent or court custody documents. Kidnapping is a serious crime, even if it is kidnapping by inveigling.
> > >
> > > Why are right-wingers always so eager to pawn off their responsibilities on normal people?
> > Poor dodge ... those guys and gals just go off a bus from south Texas
> > ... no parents involved at all, just folks trying to immigrate into
> > Canada. No right wing Americans involved at all ... just folks from
> > foreign lands seeking shelter.
> >
> > [Oh, and the one "single mother with her baby" had her husband killed by
> > drug dealers in her country from which she is fleeing. She gets a free
> > ride.]
> Don't you remember when the RCMP was helping asylees carry their luggage across an illegal border crossing? However, if they come on a bus from the US to an official Canadian border crossing then Canada cannot let them in.


~ The US persuaded Canada to sign a reciprocal agreement to not let them in. They have to claim asylum in the first country they enter.


LOL. Blabbermouth is attempting to deflect responsibility with a falsehood. The U.S. didn't twist Canada's arm. Canada sought the STCA. Its provisions increase the number of asylum seekers returned to the U.S.

The STCA dramatically reduced the ability of migrants to claim asylum in Canada if they have already made an asylum claim with countries that have an “information sharing agreement” with Canada. Canada's Liberal Trudeau administration went even further and added $1 billion for border security. 12,222 refugees were deported in 2020.

Canada's overall immigration policies won glowing praise from Senior advisor to U.S. President Donald Trump. Stephen Miller said, “the point-based system that Canada has, has a lot to recommend it.” – Aug 2, 2017


'About the Comprehensive Ranking System (CRS)

Most of Canada's new immigrants are economic class skilled workers. Since 2015, Canada has used Express Entry as the main way to manage skilled worker applications.

Express Entry is a dynamic system. Only the highest-scoring skilled worker candidates are invited by the Canadian government to immigrate to Canada.

In order to score Express Entry candidates and rank them, the Canadian government uses the Comprehensive Ranking System (CRS).

The CRS evaluates each candidate (and their spouse or partner, if they have one) based on their human capital. Canada looks at a candidate's age, education, English and/or French skills, work experience, among other criteria. The Canadian government then provides candidates with a CRS score based on their human capital characteristics.

Usually every two weeks, the Canadian government holds Express Entry draws providing permanent residence invitations to those with the highest CRS scores.'
https://www.canadavisa.com/express-entry-comprehensive-ranking-system.html

Anyone can see why Canada is only about 3.5% black with most of that number being descendants of blacks who arrived in Canada almost 200 years before 'Canada' existed.

Blabbermouth's continual highly imaginary portraits of 'saintly' Canada are laughable.

da pickle

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Sep 23, 2022, 12:04:33 PM9/23/22
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The run is complete.

da pickle

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Sep 23, 2022, 12:16:52 PM9/23/22
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They all cross "illegally" into Canada ... they all claim asylum ... one
bus load after another. [You guys do not see the bus, of course.] It
will be a fine time for all those poor folks.

da pickle

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Sep 23, 2022, 12:18:40 PM9/23/22
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He gets to post whatever he wants. He just has to do something with the
life that he has left. His wife must be so proud, if he actually has
anyone that gives shit about him.

Alim Nassor

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Sep 23, 2022, 1:44:15 PM9/23/22
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On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 3:11:44 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
> Is anyone else as sickened as I am by how DeSantis and Abbott are using the asylum seekers as political pawns and practical joke props? I haven't been this angered and nauseated by MAGA politicians in a long time.
>
> As an eternal optimist I am always looking for a silver lining, and the only one I see here is that this is a PR nightmare for the Republicans among normal people, and it's reinforcing for everyone their justified reputation for being hateful and cruel to anyone with too much melanin (unless they sell out to their racist agenda).

I think it's great, A bunch of smarmy Sanctuary City assholes getting panicked by a few thousand illegals all the while refusing to try to do anything about the millions crossing into border states every year.

Alim Nassor

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Sep 23, 2022, 1:45:53 PM9/23/22
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On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 3:52:25 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
> On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 1:42:33 PM UTC-7, Splashie wrote:
> > On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 1:11:44 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
> > > Is anyone else as sickened as I am by how DeSantis and Abbott are using the asylum seekers as political pawns and practical joke props? I haven't been this angered and nauseated by MAGA politicians in a long time.
> > >
> > > As an eternal optimist I am always looking for a silver lining, and the only one I see here is that this is a PR nightmare for the Republicans among normal people, and it's reinforcing for everyone their justified reputation for being hateful and cruel to anyone with too much melanin (unless they sell out to their racist agenda).
> > Abbott's stunt is bad, but DeSantis' is 1000x worse. He's spending Florida's tax dollars to send migrants from Texas to other states, all to raise his own political profile for the MAGA base in the hopes that Trump is indicted or dead by 2024, clearing the path for him to run for President. Florida literally does not share a border with any other country except Alabama.
> >
> > Michael
> And sending them to Martha's Vineyard? Why? Is this all a joke to him? And now that they've moved them to Boston or wherever after half the town turned out to welcome them and do whatever they could to help, the new MAGA narrative is, "See? The rich liberals are just as racist as we are!" (or words to that effect).


Yeah, those liberal fucks are fine and dandy with places like Laredo, Del Rio and Eagle Pass being overrun with illegals, but let a few dozen show up in Martha's Vineyard and guess what, withing 24 hours they were outa there!!

VegasJerry

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On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 10:44:15 AM UTC-7, Alim Nassor wrote:
> On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 3:11:44 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
> > Is anyone else as sickened as I am by how DeSantis and Abbott are using the asylum seekers as political pawns and practical joke props? I haven't been this angered and nauseated by MAGA politicians in a long time.
> >
> > As an eternal optimist I am always looking for a silver lining, and the only one I see here is that
> > this is a PR nightmare for the Republicans among normal people, and it's reinforcing for everyone
> > their justified reputation for being hateful and cruel to anyone with too much melanin (unless they
> > sell out to their racist agenda).
.

> I think it's great, A bunch of smarmy Sanctuary City assholes getting panicked…
.

In your dreams. I believe it was pointed out to you (and Fake Fox) that, not only were they not
panicked, but they took them in, welcomed them, fed them, set them up for the night, and
arraigned transportation to facilities that could handle them. So, it’s YOU that’s panicking.
.

> … by a few thousand illegals
.
AND, they weren’t illegals. (Are you just stupid, or do you still believe everything Fake Fox Feeds?)
.

> all the while refusing to try to do anything about the millions crossing into border states every year.
.

And wrong there, too. Democrats continually ask Republicans to renegotiate the immigration laws,
and allow Biden to appoint Asylum judges. But they and FOX, like mushrooms, keep you in the dark
and feed you shit. How’s it taste?
.
Hope this correcting you embarrasses you…

VegasJerry

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Sep 23, 2022, 1:55:26 PM9/23/22
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And you were just told why.
Still embarrassed?

Alim Nassor

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Sep 23, 2022, 1:58:52 PM9/23/22
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On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 12:54:26 PM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:
> On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 10:44:15 AM UTC-7, Alim Nassor wrote:
> > On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 3:11:44 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
> > > Is anyone else as sickened as I am by how DeSantis and Abbott are using the asylum seekers as political pawns and practical joke props? I haven't been this angered and nauseated by MAGA politicians in a long time.
> > >
> > > As an eternal optimist I am always looking for a silver lining, and the only one I see here is that
> > > this is a PR nightmare for the Republicans among normal people, and it's reinforcing for everyone
> > > their justified reputation for being hateful and cruel to anyone with too much melanin (unless they
> > > sell out to their racist agenda).
> .
> > I think it's great, A bunch of smarmy Sanctuary City assholes getting panicked…
> .
>
> In your dreams. I believe it was pointed out to you (and Fake Fox) that, not only were they not
> panicked, but they took them in, welcomed them, fed them, set them up for the night, and
> arraigned transportation to facilities that could handle them. So, it’s YOU that’s panicking.

LOL They shipped those landscapers and maids out faster than Joe Biden forgets what he had for breakfast.
Why aren't the blue state libs calling on the feds to do something so the border cities (who also aren't prepared for the thousands that arrive every single day) don't have to face the onslaught?

Alim Nassor

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Sep 23, 2022, 1:59:34 PM9/23/22
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LOL Jerry, they shipped them out so fast their property values didn't even have time to drop.

VegasJerry

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Sep 23, 2022, 3:07:09 PM9/23/22
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On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 10:58:52 AM UTC-7, Alim Nassor wrote:
> On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 12:54:26 PM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:
> > On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 10:44:15 AM UTC-7, Alim Nassor wrote:
> > > On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 3:11:44 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
> > > > Is anyone else as sickened as I am by how DeSantis and Abbott are using the asylum seekers as political pawns and practical joke props? I haven't been this angered and nauseated by MAGA politicians in a long time.
> > > >
> > > > As an eternal optimist I am always looking for a silver lining, and the only one I see here is that
> > > > this is a PR nightmare for the Republicans among normal people, and it's reinforcing for everyone
> > > > their justified reputation for being hateful and cruel to anyone with too much melanin (unless they
> > > > sell out to their racist agenda).
> > .
> > > I think it's great, A bunch of smarmy Sanctuary City assholes getting panicked…
> > .
> >
> > In your dreams. I believe it was pointed out to you (and Fake Fox) that, not only were they not
> > panicked, but they took them in, welcomed them, fed them, set them up for the night, and
> > arraigned transportation to facilities that could handle them. So, it’s YOU that’s panicking.
.

> LOL They shipped those landscapers and maids out faster than Joe Biden forgets what he had for breakfast.
.

Then you should have no trouble proving what I said, and all the national media said, was wrong.
.

LOL!
.


> Why aren't the blue state libs calling on the feds to do something so the border cities
.

They are. Democrats are constantly asking the Republicans to renegotiate the immigration law,
but Republicans refuse. And you not only didn’t know that, but don’t know why the refused.
.

LOL!

da pickle

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Sep 24, 2022, 10:15:59 AM9/24/22
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Another one bites the dust! Boom

BTSinAustin

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Sep 26, 2022, 1:42:26 PM9/26/22
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On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 4:11:44 PM UTC-4, BillB wrote:
> Is anyone else as sickened as I am by how DeSantis and Abbott are using the asylum seekers as political pawns and practical joke props? I haven't been this angered and nauseated by MAGA politicians in a long time.
>
> As an eternal optimist I am always looking for a silver lining, and the only one I see here is that this is a PR nightmare for the Republicans among normal people, and it's reinforcing for everyone their justified reputation for being hateful and cruel to anyone with too much melanin (unless they sell out to their racist agenda).

What we are sick of is an open border(that idiots deny exist). We would not have this problem if sleepy Joe and Cameltoe Harris shut it down.

As for Abbott and DeSantis shipping them to sanctuary cites, hell yes, great stunt. Sadly its not enough. We should ship them to the Canadian boarder.

BTSinAustin

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On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 11:44:12 PM UTC-4, BillB wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 7:31:46 PM UTC-7, Splashie wrote:
> > On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 1:11:44 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
> > > Is anyone else as sickened as I am by how DeSantis and Abbott are using the asylum seekers as political pawns and practical joke props? I haven't been this angered and nauseated by MAGA politicians in a long time.
> > >
> > > As an eternal optimist I am always looking for a silver lining, and the only one I see here is that this is a PR nightmare for the Republicans among normal people, and it's reinforcing for everyone their justified reputation for being hateful and cruel to anyone with too much melanin (unless they sell out to their racist agenda).
> > This is too funny:
> > https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1572285073814061057
> >
> > The Recount
> > @therecount
> > Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL), when asked why the state paid to transport migrants from Texas instead of from Florida:
> >
> > “The problem is we’re not seeing mass movements of them into Florida … It’s just coming in onesie-twosies.”
> > DeSantis on Why Send Migrants from Texas Instead of from Florida
> > 11:02 AM · Sep 20, 2022
> > ·Twitter Media Studio
> >
> > Michael
> That is a problem when you are trying to keep the MAGAs scared and angry. They've adopted the Fox News business model.

Oh my god, can you not even see irony anymore? Scared and angry=Fear Porn, just read what Nitwit in Vegas writes to see my point.

VegasJerry

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Sep 26, 2022, 3:07:58 PM9/26/22
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On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 10:42:26 AM UTC-7, BTSinAustin wrote:
> On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 4:11:44 PM UTC-4, BillB wrote:
> > Is anyone else as sickened as I am by how DeSantis and Abbott are using the asylum seekers as political pawns and practical joke props? I haven't been this angered and nauseated by MAGA politicians in a long time.
> >
> > As an eternal optimist I am always looking for a silver lining, and the only one I see here is that this is a PR nightmare for the Republicans among normal people, and it's reinforcing for everyone their justified reputation for being hateful and cruel to anyone with too much melanin (unless they sell out to their racist agenda).
> What we are sick of is an open border(that idiots deny exist).
.

Heh, this 'idiot' still doesn't know the border are NOT open.
*** And he can't show that they are ***

.

> We would not have this problem if sleepy Joe and Cameltoe Harris shut it down.
.

It's still just as closed as it was under, "I can't walk down a 2% slope unassisted" Trump.
.

> As for Abbott and DeSantis shipping them to sanctuary cites, hell yes, great stunt.
.

Until he's arrested for it.
.

> Sadly its not enough. We should ship them to the Canadian boarder.
.

Is this why you couldn't address the thread about not loving America or
The Constitution?






VegasJerry

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Sep 26, 2022, 3:09:48 PM9/26/22
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*** Then you should have no trouble showing that. (r) ***
.

(And off he runs.........

risky biz

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Sep 26, 2022, 3:41:21 PM9/26/22
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On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 10:42:26 AM UTC-7, BTSinAustin wrote:
> On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 4:11:44 PM UTC-4, BillB wrote:
> > Is anyone else as sickened as I am by how DeSantis and Abbott are using the asylum seekers as political pawns and practical joke props? I haven't been this angered and nauseated by MAGA politicians in a long time.
> >
> > As an eternal optimist I am always looking for a silver lining, and the only one I see here is that this is a PR nightmare for the Republicans among normal people, and it's reinforcing for everyone their justified reputation for being hateful and cruel to anyone with too much melanin (unless they sell out to their racist agenda).


~ What we are sick of is an open border(that idiots deny exist). We would not have this problem if sleepy Joe and Cameltoe Harris shut it down.


By building a $2 Trillion wall?

BillB

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Sep 26, 2022, 4:52:36 PM9/26/22
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On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 10:42:26 AM UTC-7, BTSinAustin wrote:
> On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 4:11:44 PM UTC-4, BillB wrote:
> > Is anyone else as sickened as I am by how DeSantis and Abbott are using the asylum seekers as political pawns and practical joke props? I haven't been this angered and nauseated by MAGA politicians in a long time.
> >
> > As an eternal optimist I am always looking for a silver lining, and the only one I see here is that this is a PR nightmare for the Republicans among normal people, and it's reinforcing for everyone their justified reputation for being hateful and cruel to anyone with too much melanin (unless they sell out to their racist agenda).

> What we are sick of is an open border(that idiots deny exist). We would not have this problem if sleepy Joe and Cameltoe Harris shut it down.

So there was little to no illegal immigration prior to "sleepy Joe and Cameltoe Harris?" How many entered in 2019?

> As for Abbott and DeSantis shipping them to sanctuary cites, hell yes, great stunt. Sadly its not enough. We should ship them to the Canadian boarder.

I am not clear why you would want to send them to the Canadian border rather than just deal with your own issues, but I guess that is the right-wing mentality.
Anyhow, can you give me a breakdown on how many undocumented live in blue cities vs. red cities? How about blue states vs. red states?

VegasJerry

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Sep 26, 2022, 8:28:43 PM9/26/22
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Sorry, BillB, he's still running from my post, just above yours...

RichD

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Sep 28, 2022, 3:10:45 PM9/28/22
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On September 16, Splashie wrote:
>> Is anyone else as sickened as I am by how DeSantis and Abbott are using the
>> asylum seekers as political pawns and practical joke props?
>
> Abbott's stunt is bad, but DeSantis' is 1000x worse.

Not at all, he's being considerate.

Those immigrants arrived from the liberal socialist paradise
of Venezuela. DeSantis knew they'd feel uncomfortable in Florida,
with all those anti-Castro Cubans.

So he sent them to the liberal socialist paradise of MV, playground
of Obama and his homeys, who dedicates his life to protecting
us from the filthy capitalist rich. Thus it's like homecoming for the
immigrants, much like Venezuela, it gives them a warm cozy vibe -

--
Rich

VegasJerry

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Sep 28, 2022, 6:20:58 PM9/28/22
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On Wednesday, September 28, 2022 at 12:10:45 PM UTC-7, RichD wrote:
> On September 16, Splashie wrote:
> >> Is anyone else as sickened as I am by how DeSantis and Abbott are using the
> >> asylum seekers as political pawns and practical joke props?
> >
> > Abbott's stunt is bad, but DeSantis' is 1000x worse.
.

> Not at all, he's being considerate.
.

Oh, no; not another whiner, apologist dodger..
.

> Those immigrants arrived from the liberal socialist paradise of Venezuela.
.

See? Rather than run, like the others, this guy just changes facts and lies from there.
.

> DeSantis knew they'd feel uncomfortable in Florida,
.

See? Make up a phony position for somebody else, then try arguing that phony position.
Typical scared Republican.
.

> with all those anti-Castro Cubans.
>
> So he sent them to the liberal socialist paradise of MV, playground
> of Obama and his homeys, who dedicates his life to protecting
> us from the filthy capitalist rich. Thus it's like homecoming for the
> immigrants, much like Venezuela, it gives them a warm cozy vibe -
.

And really a bad one at that..
(But it's fun watching them squirm...)
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