On Monday, October 25, 2021 at 6:02:07 PM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
> On Monday, October 25, 2021 at 3:58:34 PM UTC-7, Splashie wrote:
> > On Monday, October 25, 2021 at 2:06:30 PM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
> > > On Monday, October 25, 2021 at 8:54:31 AM UTC-7, BTSinAustin wrote:
> > > > On Monday, October 25, 2021 at 3:10:01 AM UTC-4, risky biz wrote:
> > > > > 'Seventeen states and Washington D.C. recognize nonbinary as a gender identification on a birth certificate, Newsweek reports.'
> > > > >
https://news.yahoo.com/nonbinary-oklahoma-lawmaker-complains-governor-184800602.html
> > > > So "goo goo" equals male, "ga ga" equals female, and "goo ga" = non binary?
> > > Will it become illegal someday to ask if a prospective family pet is male or female?
> > >
> > > For humans, wouldn't it be more workable and less disruptive to just have birth certicicates like this:
> > >
> > > [ ] has a dick
> > > [ ] doesn't have a dick
> ~ The real question is why is gender (or more accurately biological sex) on a birth certificate at all? Child named <firstname lastname> was born at <time> on <date> in <hospital> to <parent's name(s)> signed Dr. So-and-so. That's all that is required.
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> > Michael
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> For one thing, it's an aid to identification. You can't differentiate one from another with all the asshole names parents are inventing.
An aid to identification? That makes no fucking sense. A birth certificate is usually required to prove age for things like entry into school. Obama's was about his birthplace. When I enrolled my daughters in school, their birth certificates verified that their names and birth dates matched what I provided on the form and that their mother and I were the parents. What are the fucking odds that a child with the same first, middle, and last names would be born to two different parents with the same names as my wife and I on the same fucking day, let alone a second child with the same name as our younger daughter on the same day as she was born - and that those kids would be attempting to enroll in the same school years later? How does having the word FEMALE on their birth certificate overcome that one in a bajillion chance? What if these magical unicorn children also have the word FEMALE on THEIR birth certificates? Then what?
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> And ask yourself why transgender people call themselves transgender.
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> transgender adjective ▸
> relating to transsexuals
> more...
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> 'transsexual noun▸
> a man who wants to become a woman or a woman who wants to become a man, or someone who has done this by having an operation to change their sexual organs
> more...'
https://www.healthline.com/health/transgender/difference-between-transgender-and-transsexual
"The main difference between the word transgender and the word transsexual has to do with the way it’s used and experienced.
Many transgender people report having negative associations with the word transsexual.
Current best practices in transgender health still use the word transsexual, but acknowledge that it’s no longer the most inclusive and affirming term to describe someone who has a gender that’s different from the sex assigned at birth.
Transgender or trans are now the generally accepted and promoted terms that Western societies use to describe those who have a gender that’s different from the sex assigned at birth.
Transgender tends to be more inclusive and affirming than transsexual because it includes the experience of those who pursue medical changes to affirm gender as well as those who do not.
While some transgender and transsexual advocates have argued that the word transsexual doesn’t always have to include medical changes, this notion hasn’t yet been widely accepted by the larger transgender community.
Generally, the word transgender recognizes the need to medically alter one’s body, hormonal makeup, or appearance isn’t required for everyone who identifies with a gender that’s different from the sex assigned at birth.
The decision to pursue physical and medical changes can vary from transgender person to transgender person."
Michael